Anyone else feeling a little disheartened?

Idk, I see a lot of arguments as to why the father-daughter bond between Alastor and Charlie won’t happen in season 3… and some of them kinda have me worried that they’re right and I’m being delulu with my hopes.

Idk… just kinda made me sad.

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u/Queen_ofthe_Misfits — 1 month ago
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He would do this @Alastorsart

Alastor would totally do this to these 3 girls lol. Alastor would definitely be a girl dad for sure XD. This art is so cute though. I'd love to see something like it in the show eventually in S4 or S5.

Also poor Niffty XD.

Art by Alastorsart on twitter.

u/Desperate_Song_1923 — 1 month ago
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So.. what you think alastor wants from Charlie? Really ?

So I'm understanding that Charlie next season would be

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1- trying to win lilith approval

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2- hurt her friends and push them away

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3- push vaggi away !

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4- lucifer and lilith might fight!

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5- lucifer also wants the approval of lilith and her affection!

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6- alastor getting closer to Charlie! For what reason?

Any ideas?

u/Environmental-Ad3261 — 1 month ago
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If Charlie decided Alastor needed to work on his emotional vulnerabilities

Someone I follow on Twitter, got a video from an oomf of theirs and I thought it was interesting. It was a cameo from Erika Henningsen and they asked "If Charlie decided Alastor needed to work on his emotional vulnerabilities, what would she do?" I found it quite fun. Erika stated that Charlie would do a roleplay, not the sexual kind (Erika's own words) but she would do the "puppet kind" where she would make puppets, so that Al wouldn't talk as himself, he would just talk as the puppet, which of course he would hate first but eventually will get really into it and then reveal some shit, that would be very personal. Erika said that he won't do art therapy, or normal talk therapy, he just needs those damn dolls. This was mostly a paraphrase from Erika.

Now, this is something I would love to see!

u/Longjumping_Daikon65 — 1 month ago
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Just realised that this is an image of Alastor literally lying through his teeth

https://preview.redd.it/8y8jxiuvpjlh1.png?width=1240&format=png&auto=webp&s=e036fd1302418127f50621cc87232b01b003ac66

Alastor was so terrified of Niffty being harmed by a non-angelic weapon that he instinctively altered his plans to protect her. There is no way in hell that he was okay with her dying permanently from an angelic nuke. If Rosie wasn't so worried about her own plans failing, she might have pushed harder on the "you wouldn't dare". But she had no idea how much her recent screw-up had pissed him off and what he was willing to do in retaliation. She couldn't take the risk that he wasn't bluffing.

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u/Diamondkat12 — 2 months ago
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I love that Alastor trusts Charlie with his staff/mic

A lot of people don't really talk about this, but I love that Alastor trusts Charlie with his staff/mic. It broke at the end of S1 and really wanted it fixed the whole entirety of S2, so that thing is clearly very important to him and seeing him trust someone else like Charlie with it is very wholesome to me. He clearly does not trust anyone else with it. There's a part of me that hopes Alastor doesn't betray Charlie in the future, but sadly it's probably inevitable he will. Still wholesome to see this though.

u/Desperate_Song_1923 — 2 months ago
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Does being SA’d make you want romance (sorta like hypersexuality but with romance)?

I recently was SA’d repeatedly a few months ago by my ex boyfriend. He did it multiple times. It’s been a few months since we broke up and I’ve realized that I’ve gotten strong romantic feelings for someone I used to know all of a sudden. And I can’t tell if this is a trauma response to everything that has happened, since I have finally eased out of the denial phase (eg pretending/convincing myself that I was fine).

Has anyone experienced something similar?

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u/Queen_ofthe_Misfits — 2 months ago
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Everything we know about Season 3: with sources! (Hints from cast & crew)

I got fed up with rumours, speculation and fake stuff floating around, so I sat down and gathered everything I could about Hazbin Hotel S3. Mind you, I did this in an afternoon and some things will certainly be missing, but I’ve compiled everything I was able to find sources for. 

Sharing is caring, so here you go. Spoilers ahead if you count cast & crew interviews as spoilers.

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Story & Music: Most emotional season yet

Viv has stated that season three is “probably the heaviest, most emotionally driven season” [1], as well as the “most romantic” [2].

She has also said that this season will kick off a lot of change:

“There are things in [season] three that change the way the characters see the world and each other; there’s a lot of emotional [development] that changes the tone and the stakes of the show.” [3]

Additionally, Vivzie has revealed that the show’s writing follows the classic Three-Act structure, with S1-2 as the (now concluded) first arc. Season 3 will mark the beginning of “Arc Two” in the broader narrative, described as a “point of no return where the roller coaster starts going up”. [4]

We can expect a lot more emotional, character-driven music as well. Here’s what show composer Sam Haft had to say:

“Season three is such a dense, emotional story that (…) it ended up with a lot more emotionally driven songs. (…) We’re getting a lot more angst and a lot more introspective music rather than stuff that tends to be more plot-driven.” [5]

Sam has also revealed that there is a prevailing theme to season three’s songs, just like there was to season two’s with villain songs. [6]

The cast and crew keep alluding to a lot more drama, angst, and character depth overall, such as Jessica Vosk (Lute’s VA) boiling it down to “dysfunctional as fuck” [7] (most likely referring to Lute’s unravelling storyline).

Major theme: Family

When asked to identify a main theme of the upcoming season, Vivzie replied that the safest, most spoiler-free answer she can give is “family”. [8] It was confirmed that the season will place greater focus on the Morningstar family [9][10], as well as on Angel Dust, his history, and the idea of found family.

Viv has also confirmed that each season can be represented by colours, with season three being predominantly purple and green. [11] Some fans speculate that these colours might represent Lilith/Valentino and Alastor, respectively.

Charlie: Emotional backbone & Relationship with Lilith

Erika Henningsen (Charlie’s VA) has stated that season three gives Charlie “an emotional backbone and backstory” that have been speculated about so far, but “now, we’re seeing it up close”.

She has also mentioned that, with this season’s focus on the Morningstars, the upcoming episodes will further explore Charlie’s relationship with Lilith:

“You see Charlie become like a little kid again, (…) kind of this sad girl who just wanted her mom’s affection, affirmation, and attention. (…) You realize that she’s doing everything — sometimes things that hurt other people [or] push her away from friends and her partner — in service of getting the love that she truly wants and needs the most, which is her mom’s.” [12]

Erika has also stated that she believes Charlie’s greatest weakness going into season three is “not listening to the people who love her — mostly Vaggi.” [13]

Lilith: Her long-awaited reveal, Voice & Music

Viv confirmed that Lilith will have a major presence in S3 [14]. She has spoken a little about Lilith’s voice and her incoming VA:

“[Lilith] is a very ethereal queen. (…) Like a diva queen, and she's kind of dark, and her themes are resistance, power, and empowerment. (…) The person who voices her has a phenomenal voice and does come from the theatre world. (…) I think it's probably exactly what people imagine it to be in terms of vibe and personification and energy and diva queen-ness.” [15]

Not much is known music-wise, but Erika has all but confirmed that Charlie and Lilith will sing together:

“I think it would be safe to assume, if Lilith is present, and Lilith obviously sings, Charlie is probably going to sing with her.” [16]

She also said she was excited for people to hear Lilith, “because she’s so good.”

As for the music itself, Sam has said:

“I think everyone was on the same page as to how important it is that Lilith not just sings, but that the singing becomes kind of a part of her identity from the get-go. (…) Lilith is a character who’s described as having empowered Hell with her songs. (…) People need to believe that her music has that power to it.”

“In what way can we meet these really big shoes to fill for the audience, and in what way can we surprise the audience [with] something a little bit unexpected that further creates a distinct identity for Lilith?” [17]

All in all, it seems Lilith will have a distinct “dark diva” voice and a powerful, unique musical identity, with the team striving to fulfil the fandom’s expectations and existing perception of Lilith, but with a little twist that’ll keep her interesting.

The team has been very tight-lipped about Lilith plot-wise, but Vivzie has always said that Lilith is the “big, slowburn mystery” of the show, and season three should provide us with more pieces of it. [18]

Lucifer: Expanded role, Angst & Riding the Lucilith struggle bus

Lucifer is confirmed to have a significantly expanded role in season three (see above).

Jeremy Jordan (Lucifer’s VA) has confirmed during a recent Streamily live that he will appear in most, if not all, episodes of season three. He also confirmed that Lucifer sings more in season three than in the first two seasons combined. [19]

In a recent interview, Vivzie stated:

“My favourite character in the show is Lucifer, and it’s a big Lucifer season. (…) I am excited for people to see more of his character and the angst around his character.”

She has also hinted at season three continuing to humanise Lucifer:

“I don’t consider him the devil because, to me, I do think the devil is an evil entity, and he’s not. So, things like that: exploring what his actual role in this universe is, and how he actually feels.” [20]

Additionally, a fan reported that during SacAnime’s HH panel, Vivzie alluded to Lilith and Lucifer’s relationship continuing to go through a rough patch in season three. [21]

Vaggi: More depth, Backstory & Solo song

Stephanie Beatriz (Vaggi’s VA) has confirmed that Vaggi has a solo song in season three. [22]

In a feature for “The Movie Nerds”, Sam spoke a lot about the process of writing music for Vaggi this season:

“I was spending a lot of time putting myself in her headspace as an Exorcist and then rescued by a leader of these people whom I’ve been taught to hate.” [23]

Overall, it seems like Vaggi’s arc in the upcoming season will centre on her trauma and past as an Exorcist, as well as her emotional journey towards redemption — possibly still through the lens of her relationship with Charlie, since Haft also adds:

“Vaggi is a character who puts (…) so much of her inner life’s focus onto Charlie — and it’s totally in character for her to be doing that. (…) Charlie represents the idea that Vaggi is redeemable and not condemned for the kind of brainwashing she was subjected to as an Exorcist. (…) Charlie didn’t just save her life. In many ways, Charlie saved her soul.”

Alastor: Villain arc, Motivation & Music

Vivzie has all but confirmed that Alastor will be an antagonist in season three:

“I'm excited for people to see a character we've built up (…) as sort of a friendly face, or an anti-hero, a character who is on the right side for the first two seasons, getting to step into a villain role, and getting to see the nuance and the real motivation behind a very trickstery, devious character who has his own agenda that's much more sinister in season three.” [24]

Amir Talai (Alastor’s VA) has also revealed that a specific song in season three was challenging:

“There’s a piece of a song that was difficult, because it was emotionally complex.” [25]

Jeremy Jordan (Lucifer’s VA) has also said that Alastor and Lucifer will sing together again “in some capacity” in the future. [26] I personally would not interpret this as hard confirmation of an Alastor–Lucifer duet in season three, but who knows.

Rosie: The deal with Alastor & Her power

Vivzie has long stated that Rosie’s deal with Alastor is a part of a larger story, with S02E04 (“It’s a Deal”) referred to as “a major tease” for season three.

She has confirmed that the upcoming season will reveal more information on how Rosie became so powerful and what Alastor was doing on her orders for seven years.

“The Rosie and Alastor deal is the first stepping stone in a much bigger story that involves so much. (…) How is she that powerful? The answer could be many things, but [it] is in season three.” [27]

Vees: Val at the helm & Vox’s continued relevance

It has been confirmed that the show plans to rotate the main Vee figurehead season to season, and that in season three, it will be Valentino. [28] Most likely, he will continue to be a major antagonist in Angel Dust’s story.

Vivzie has also confirmed that Vox will remain highly relevant until the end of the show, and that his story will absolutely continue into season three:

“We will have to see him deal with not being the person who’s at the top of the food chain anymore. And that, I think, inherently creates a different arc for him. (…) So, yes, he has plenty more arc.” [29]

So it seems like Vox’s primary narrative thread in season three will focus on him grappling with no longer having as much power as he used to.

Not much is known about Velvette’s role yet, except that she will become the main Vee figurehead in the future (most likely season four).

Angel Dust: Found family, Past & Abuse

Season three is shaping up to be majorly centred on Angel Dust, with Vivzie confirming that the season “is a lot about Angel and about his situation,” also warning that this season is going to be the heaviest. [30]

Blake Roman (Angel Dust’s VA) has stated that the material is “extremely, extremely [challenging]”. He has also said that season three challenged him as an actor, both in terms of music and character work:

“I think I always find Sam and Andrew’s music wonderfully challenging in a way that it’s comfortable, but it pushes me. (…) I feel like, music-wise, very much so in this next one; and I think character-wise, extremely.” [31]

When revealing season three’s overarching theme of family, Viv also teased that the story will focus on Angel’s found family and his history, [32] leading to some fan speculation that the narrative may juxtapose Angel’s blood-related and found families.

Additionally, back in May 2025, Vivzie announced that Angel’s brother, Arackniss, had been cast. [33] It is unknown whether he will make an appearance in S3, but it may be a safe bet since the season is set to focus on the overarching theme of family.

Husk: Development in relationship with Angel

Vivzie has confirmed that the season’s focus on Angel Dust’s circumstances will also feature more of his relationship with Husk:

“Husk is a character that's really grown to care about Angel. (…) They have a lot of connection with each other, and they're both in a situation that's very similar, but (…) I'm excited for people to see us explore Husk (…) realizing how much more different Angel’s situation is from his.” [34]

Lute: A ticking time-bomb

Vivzie has confirmed that the lack of payoff in S2 with Lute was a deliberate choice to set up her larger story and make her simmer and spiral. She stated that Lute was a “ticking time bomb” kind of character, and that we’ll get the payoff to that spiral either in S3 or S4. She also stated that “[Lute] probably won't have her authentic conclusion until later in the show”. [35]

Jessica Vosk (Lute’s VA) has also said that “throughout the five seasons, [Lute’s story] is a slow burn.” She has also confirmed that Lute sings again in a season that Jessica recorded for a few weeks before Animate Orlando (most likely a later season like S4 or even S5), so overall it seems like Lute will continue to be a major character throughout the full show.  [36]

In an interview for Creepy Kingdom, Jessica has also said that Lute’s recording sessions became “darker and grittier” as the story went on throughout seasons 1 and 2 [37], and we can probably expect that to continue. Jessica has also said that she was given direction to “sing like [she] were in a heavy metal band” when recording for a later season. [38]

Sera: The burden of guilt

I couldn’t find anything (that I could decently back up) about Sera in Season 3, but Patina Miller (Sera’s VA) has generally agreed with fan interpretations of the character — carrying immense guilt and psychological weight after the events of S1-S2.

That said, I couldn’t confirm any story beats that were explicitly hinted at by the cast or crew. If anyone knows what’s up and can back it up with a source, come forth!

Mimzy’s return

Vivzie has posted a photo alongside Sarah Stiles (Mimzy’s VA) at the recording studio during the vocal tracking cycle for S3 [39], so it’s a pretty safe bet that Mimzy will return this season.

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That’s all I managed (and had enough chronically online mental fortitude) to gather and confirm. I know there are also other rumours floating around about Adam, Abel, Baxter, Carmilla, Zestial, etc., but I haven’t been able to track down proper confirmations of these.

Lastly, please keep in mind that a lot of this (if not most) is just hints, comments, and teasing. While all of this came from Vivziepop and the Hazbin Hotel cast and crew, it is easy to misinterpret or over-interpret their words or start purely speculating — which I’ve done my best to avoid, but do take all of this with a grain of salt.

If you have more information or sources on anything, feel free to pile ’em on 😌

u/Queen_ofthe_Misfits — 1 month ago

A rant about the double standards regarding Corinthos/Quartermaines and their spouses

This is a comment I left under a different post, but I feel the need to share it in my own post:

Long rant incoming:

With all the Corinthos/Quartermaines, if the outsider spouse cheats, immediately they “deserve” to loose custody of their kids — which is absolute crap because if it were the other way around, everyone would be pressuring the outsider spouse to forget and forgive (ex: Olivia with the Ned and Alexis fiasco, Lulu with Dante when he cheated on her with Valerie). When Michael cheated with Kiki while she was with Morgan, literally everyone made MORGAN THE BAD GUY (if I’m remembering correctly), when MICHAEL AND KIKI WERE THE ONES WHO CHEATED.

Willow deserves to be judged and ripped a new one, sure, but loose her kids? Girl, she has literally been pushed to the brink of snapping. Yes, partially due to her horrible choices, but a heavy part of it has to do with controlling men — yes, Michael falls into that category — and Harmony, the woman who raised Willow to have and follow a cult/submissive mentality). When you are pushed to the brink, you will snap and do things you normally wouldn’t do. And let’s be real, Willow was right: Drew would not have stopped until he destroyed half that town and suffocated her more than he already had (yes she brought that on herself initially, but he screwed with her mind a lot and he was becoming such a problem for the whole town; drugging him literally gave everyone a respite from his vendetta). Do I think it was right of her to do that? Hell no, irl that’s awful, but I can understand what led her to do it in the show, as this is fiction.

And let’s not forget Michael played just as dirty to rip the kids away from Willow (he literally sued for full custody FIRST just as a power play to make sure she was afraid and would settle for half custody). Michael also has a problem with women having as much or more power/control than him in the relationship. Every woman he has been with so far has had less financial and familial means than he does (Kiki, Nelle, Sabrina, Rosalie, Abby, Sasha (before they made her a Scorpio, and even then the Scorpios aren’t exactly rich) and Willow, before she found out her birth family).

The second Willow gains enough status, family, money, and influence to go toe to toe with him, he needs to push her back into a position where she is at his mercy and under his control (you’ll understand if you watched the 8/13 episode).

And Willow was not unreasonable at first (regarding after she freed herself from Drew; when she was with Drew, girl—). She asked for 50/50 custody… literally 10% more than what she already had. Literally there is not that much difference than having 40%, it would have barely affected Michael’s custody schedule. However, it also would have put her on equal legal footing with Michael. And Michael couldn’t have that. Why? The reasons he gave are bs in my opinion. He doesn’t like that she would have just as much say/control/power as him over Wiley and Amelia. And he basically threatened her to go back to court and got stressed when she didn’t back down because frankly, she had a good chance of winning.

The whole Jacinda mess was a justified crash out on Willow’s part. Girl, if someone drugged me while I had my kids, I’d be EXTREMELY pissed too. What if Willow got behind the wheel? What if Willow got aggravated and started hitting the kids? What if Willow passed out? What if Willow slipped off the balcony? That would have traumatized those children. Your brain on drugs isn’t rational and has a warped sense of reality. So much could have happened if it wasn’t for pure dumb luck regarding timing.

Michael was bs-ing that whole downplaying that he was doing, because if the roles were reversed, Willow would be in the pine barrens. And frankly? I’d take him to court too because there would be no way that you allowed a person known for drugging others into my child’s life, knew that they drugged me while I had my kids and could potentially get behind the wheel, gaslight me, and still have custody. I know it’s a show and that we have to suspend reality, but come on; anyone would crash the hell out and would be justified to do so.

And now, after the 8/13 episode, which basically proves my point, Willow is at a disadvantage. Again. And barely anyone seems to understand why she is so angry.

And this is a double standard with all outsider spouses of the Corinthos/Quartermaine clan, mainly women unfortunately. Ava has to tiptoe around to keep her custody of Avery. Jax literally lost custody of Josslyn because he was gonna win and Carly asked Sonny to plant drugs in his house, even though he was the better fit parent let’s be real. Everybody made Elizabeth a pariah over Jake (the Lucky aspect of the slander she received was 100% justified though), when in the end she was right to keep Jake’s true paternity a secret, Carly even admitted it. AJ, though he had a lot of problems, deserved to know that Michael was his son. Carly and Jax kept Spencer away from Nikolas all because Jax wanted a son and Carly wanted Jax. Carly kept Nina’s children away from her TWICE. Sam was give such a hard time for waking up and not wanting the kids near Jason and his mob central. Valentine is always favored with Charlotte (I consider him Corinthos adjacent via Carly), and while yes Lulu needs to chill, she still isn’t wrong to want to protect her from a father that while undoubtedly loves his daughter, enables and supports her worst traits and brings danger around.

I’m getting very fed up with the strange imbalance with custody when it comes to the Corinthos/Quartermaines. The only person who has come out unscathed is Sasha, and that’s purely due to Sofia Mattson leaving the show and it being convenient for the plot.

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u/Queen_ofthe_Misfits — 2 months ago
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What do you think will be the moment that Alastor realizes he cares more about Charlie than he initially thought/intended?

Like will she be injured? Will it be some random moment? Will it be when dueling Lucifer for Hell’s Greatest Dad round two?

Comment below your theories!

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u/Queen_ofthe_Misfits — 1 month ago
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Screenshots of Alastor's reaction to Niffty in danger

Alastor is terrified when it looks like Niffty might get seriously hurt. It is a pity that a lot of people didn't notice it because of how quickly this moment passes when watching the scene.

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Do you think there was more to the whole “Don’t lay a hand on Charlie” deal between Al and Vox?

Many people say that Al was just using Charlie for his schemes — which undoubtedly he was. No question about it.

But do you guys think a tiny part of him genuinely wanted to protect Charlie?

The way he cashed in his side of their deal was generally quite harmless. Yes, Al could’ve done this to gain Charlie’s trust for any future deals, I’m not denying that it’s part of his motivation. However, do you guys think that maybe he used the deal the way he did because he didn’t want to make Charlie do anything that would upset her? He could’ve asked for anything, but this was a very suspiciously simple way for Charlie to fulfill her part of the bargain.

Idk, maybe I’m grasping at straws lol. Thoughts?

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u/Queen_ofthe_Misfits — 3 months ago