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Rather than the three episodes of knockouts, three QF episodes, two SF episodes, and finale episode, they have six quarterfinal episodes as normal.

In these six, there are 12 games, four per player. The math works out perfectly that they could have every head to head pair happen exactly once, like so (including who would have faced off if S3 used this format):

Game 1: M1/M2/M3 (Victoria/Yogesh/Brad)

Game 2: T1/T2/T3 (Neilesh/Isaac/Adriana)

Game 3: J1/J2/J3 (Matt/Roger/Juveria)

Game 4: M1/T1/J1 (Victoria/Neilesh/Matt)

Game 5: M2/T2/J2 (Yogesh/Isaac/Roger)

Game 6: M3/T3/J3 (Brad/Adriana/Juveria)

Game 7: M1/T2/J3 (Victoria/Isaac/Juveria)

Game 8: M2/T3/J1 (Yogesh/Adriana/Matt)

Game 9: M3/T1/J2 (Brad/Neilesh/Roger)

Game 10: M1/T3/J2 (Victoria/Adriana/Roger)

Game 11: M2/T1/J3 (Yogesh/Neilesh/Juveria)

Game 12: M3/T2/J1 (Brad/Isaac/Matt)

M1/M2/M3 are Masters finalists; T1/T2/T3 are ToC finalists; J1/J2/J3 are JIT finalists (or replacements of), with number indicating finish in that tournament

This would have the players from each of the three groups (Masters/TOC/JIT) still face off and have games involving the winners, second placers, and third placers of each.

Only other potential change in format is head to head result being used as a tiebreaker to decide who makes SFs from QFs, as every pair would have exactly one matchup.

Asking since it would be in the best interests of production to expand it back to 9 for season 5 because of all the superchamps on the last season as we could get three of them instead of just one. Currently, of the five, only two would be guaranteed relegation to JIT with a 9-player Masters. Otherwise, four would. Plus it increases the odds Jamie gets on, as it’s rare the winningest player takes the TOC. In the unlimited era, Dan, James, and Amy are the only players to be both the winningest in terms of games and take the TOC (when doing both games and money, only James has done it). It also decreases the chances of all five missing Masters.

Should the icons and the other players that don’t believe Yash about the bribe decide to throw him the next HOH to expose him as lying about the bribe, as they’d learn the truth that way?

I feel the surviving two icons should do that, as then that could give them two weeks of safety especially if the one non-nominated player (aka of the four players Yash can nominate, the one he doesn’t nominate when nominating the other three) loses the veto and it gets one of the other three evicted. Then the following week, as long as Yash doesn’t win HOH, everyone would potentially go after him and as long as he loses the veto (anyone else that wins it would use it on a nominee, including themselves), he would be backdoored.

Could gain the icons some trust in the house. Barrett already has to take one of them or Drew to the end to have a chance of winning, as otherwise he’d lose 4-3 at best with the three icons and Drew not voting for him to win. If only three of them are on the jury, he’d have a chance of winning 4-3 if he can get all four others on his side.

It’s been said by Manfred himself that expansion has been held back bc of the issues of the Rays (and formerly the Athletics) getting new stadiums.

With the votes passing and groundbreaking set to be in a few weeks for such a stadium for the Rays, that opens the door to an expansion to 32 taking place. I feel they’d be able to debut in 2030 at the earliest.

I personally feel Salt Lake City and Nashville are the most likely teams and these would be the divisions:

NL East: Nationals, Mets, Phillies, Pirates
NL South: Braves, Marlins, Reds, Nashville
NL Central: Cubs, Cardinals, Brewers, Rockies
NL West: Dodgers, Giants, Padres, D-backs

AL East: Yankees, Red Sox, Orioles, Rays
AL North: Blue Jays, White Sox, Guardians, Tigers
AL Central: Twins, Royals, Astros, Rangers
AL West: Angels, Athletics, Mariners, Salt Lake City[

And then this could be the scheduling:

21 games vs. divisional rivals (each team is paired next to theirs above; ex: Nationals/Mets and Phillies/Pirates would be the two in the NL East)
15 games vs. 2 others in division

9 games vs. 1 teams in neighboring division (East/North/South and Central/West)*
6 games vs. 3 other teams in neighboring division (East/North/South and Central/West)*
*rotational; across 8 years, this would total 54 games against each of the four teams

3 games vs. 8 in two other divisions (this is to reduce cross coast travel for teams; ex: the Nationals would play against the Dodgers in only one series per season, not two, meaning they’d only have to go to LA every other season, not every season)

9 games vs. interleague rivals (existing 15 would stay as-is; the two expansion teams would be paired with each other)
3 games vs. 15 other interleague teams

This totals 156 games, a proposed reduction to give every team a weekly day off. If they stayed at 162, the games against teams in a division would all be increased by two each (so 23 for rivals, 17 for 2 others).

Example: the Nationals would play the Mets 21 times, the Phillies and Pirates 15 times each, 9 games against one team in the NL North and 6 games each against the other three, 3 games against the 8 teams in the NL Central and NL West, 9 games against the Orioles, and 3 games against the 15 others in the AL.

One hindrance to having all winners is the fact only three F/F teams have ever won, which would either make the M:F ratio lopsided or have a bunch of M/F teams, most of which are couples or ex couples.

Assuming every F/F team would all say yes and a maxed out cast of 14 (max they can have with 12 legs and no NELs or DELs), how many more F/F teams likely have to win first?

I feel we’d need at least two more with this being a probable cast.

Rob/Brennan

Tommy/Megan

Tammy/Victor

Nat/Kat

Kisha/Jen

Josh/Brent

Amy/Maya

Brooke/Scott

Colin/Christie

Greg/John

Ricky/Cesar

Jas/Jag

Future F/F winning team

Future F/F winning team

- Colby votes out Keith over Tina

- Jenna votes out Rupert over Rob

- Terry votes out Cirie over Danielle

- Russell votes out Shambo and Jaison over Natalie

- Russell votes out Jerri over Sandra

- Coach votes out Brandon and Rick over Sophie

- Michael and Lisa vote out Abi-Maria over Denise

- Woo votes out Kass over Tony

- Brad votes out Tai over Sarah

- Xander takes Erika over Heather

- Katurah votes out Julie over Dee

- Joe votes out Shauhin over Kyle

- Sophi takes Sage over Rizo

- Joe and Jonathan vote out Cirie over Aubry

- Colby votes out Keith over Tina

- Jenna votes out Rupert over Rob

- Terry votes out Cirie over Danielle

- Russell votes out Shambo and Jaison over Natalie

- Russell votes out Jerri over Sandra

- Coach votes out Brandon and Rick over Sophie

- Michael and Lisa vote out Abi-Maria over Denise

- Woo votes out Kass over Tony

- Brad votes out Tai over Sarah

- Xander takes Erika over Heather

- Katurah votes out Julie over Dee

- Joe votes out Shauhin over Kyle

- Sophi takes Sage over Rizo

- Joe and Jonathan vote out Cirie over Aubry

So that way, if it ever breaks again, we don’t have to wait ~20 years for it to get fixed again? They’d be able to easily cover it whenever the next refurbishment after that is?

Cook Islands through Gabon (implied; Todd said in his AMA that a 3-3-1 tie in China would have been decided by a live reunion challenge; Cook Islands, China, Micronesia, and Gabon all had Jeff say something like “if this last vote is for X, we have a tie” before the last vote was read, implying this was the tiebreaker in each case): Any tie, 2-way or 3-way, is broken by a tiebreaker challenge at the live reunion

Samoa and HvV: unknown, either the above or below rules (nobody won by 1 or 2 votes, and Jeff didn’t mention there being a tie if the last vote was for Sash, implying it was changed to the below either before or after the Samoa/HvV cycle)

Nicaragua through One World (end of S23/S24 cycle that Probst revealed the revote tiebreaker): 2-way ties that all 3 got votes in are broken by a revote on location (iirc there was a conspiracy theory that this happened on Nicaragua), 3-way tiebreaker unknown

Philippines (first season a X-X-0 tie was possible) through Caramoan (Mark Burnett mentioned revote tiebreaker in his Survivor Oz interview that took place during S25/S26 cycle): In a 2-way tie where everyone got votes, there is a revote where if the revote ties, third place decides the winner; in a 2-way tie where third place did not receive any votes, the third placer decides the winner

Blood vs. Water through Survivor 44: unknown, either the above or below rules (unknown which odd numbered season they changed it)

Survivor 45 (Probst mentioned it being like this in the On Fire for the 46 finale) onwards: Any 2-way tie is broken by third place deciding the winner

3-way tiebreaker is still unknown for Philippines onwards, but there hasn’t been one possible since. Only times it could have were seasons with eoe where it could end up a multiple of 3 (and would have on S38 had everyone stayed) as well as MvGX if Adam had been voted out (iirc he was going to be flown home to be with his mother in that case).

Cook Islands through Gabon (implied; Todd said in his AMA that a 3-3-1 tie in China would have been decided by a live reunion challenge; Cook Islands, China, Micronesia, and Gabon all had Jeff say something like “if this last vote is for X, we have a tie” before the last vote was read, implying this was the tiebreaker in each case): Any tie, 2-way or 3-way, is broken by a tiebreaker challenge at the live reunion

Samoa and HvV: unknown, either the above or below rules (nobody won by 1 or 2 votes, and Jeff didn’t mention there being a tie if the last vote was for Sash, implying it was changed to the below either before or after the Samoa/HvV cycle)

Nicaragua through One World (end of S23/S24 cycle that Probst revealed the revote tiebreaker): 2-way ties that all 3 got votes in are broken by a revote on location (iirc there was a conspiracy theory that this happened on Nicaragua), 3-way tiebreaker unknown

Philippines (first season a X-X-0 tie was possible) through Caramoan (Mark Burnett mentioned revote tiebreaker in his Survivor Oz interview that took place during S25/S26 cycle): In a 2-way tie where everyone got votes, there is a revote where if the revote ties, third place decides the winner; in a 2-way tie where third place did not receive any votes, the third placer decides the winner

Blood vs. Water through Survivor 44: unknown, either the above or below rules (unknown which odd numbered season they changed it)

Survivor 45 (Probst mentioned it being like this in the On Fire for the 46 finale) onwards: Any 2-way tie is broken by third place deciding the winner

3-way tiebreaker is still unknown for Philippines onwards, but there hasn’t been one possible since. Only times it could have were seasons with eoe where it could end up a multiple of 3 (and would have on S38 had everyone stayed) as well as MvGX if Adam had been voted out (iirc he was going to be flown home to be with his mother in that case).

Via the Pac-12‘s announced sports sponsorships, it has been confirmed that there will be no sponsorship of women’s rowing in the conference.

This leaves Gonzaga, Oregon State, and Washington State with no conference to compete for this sport. They last played in WCC, but via WCC revealing their membership for that when adding UCSD as an affiliate, they aren’t going to be affiliates there.

One place I could see them possibly ending up is the SEC believe it or not. Reason is they are currently under the minimum of the six needed members to be eligible for an autobid. Besides location, there is another issue in that in their history, the SEC has never had affiliate members.

Could also see them end up in the Big Ten as affiliates there.

What is the most likely end case for them?

Via the Pac-12‘s announced sports sponsorships, it has been confirmed that there will be no sponsorship of women’s rowing in the conference.

This leaves Gonzaga, Oregon State, and Washington State with no conference to compete for this sport. They last played in WCC, but via WCC revealing their membership for that when adding UCSD as an affiliate, they aren’t going to be affiliates there.

One place I could see them possibly ending up is the SEC believe it or not. Reason is they are currently under the minimum of the six needed members to be eligible for an autobid. Besides location, there is another issue in that in their history, the SEC has never had affiliate members.

Could also see them end up in the Big Ten as affiliates there.

What is the most likely end case for them?

Currently the rights are held by the other place, but as unlike Marvel, they expire, Disney likely isn’t going to renew them (especially since it’s possible Aerosmith got replaced in part bc they didn’t renew the rights to letting Disney keep them), meaning they’d have to close their Simpsons area and Disney would be allowed to have stuff.

Things I could possibly see them doing

The abandoned Wonders of Life pavilion area that has more or less sat abandoned since the planned play pavilion got scratched, could work for an attraction, with a possible quick service Krusty Burger stand, Lard Lad Stand, and Moe’s Tavern stand, each of which similar in size to the World Showcase stands they have during festivals.

It would also be near part of the Monorail track, so they could possibly also remove the black deltas from Monorail Red, add red “Monorail” text on the front car below the window to look kind of like the one on the show, as well as possibly having Dan Castellaneta record the intercom lines for it as Homer (like the “Please stand clear of the doors, por favor manténgase alejado de las puertas” as well as the “we’re on our way to [the Transportation and Ticket Center/Epcot] and all the other prerecorded announcements), and leave it on the Epcot line, as well as spray painting an “El Barto“ on the concrete of the track in that area.

Could also put it at DHS and replace the Indiana Jones stunt show with it, as well as possibly replace the Backlot Express with food places (like having a Krusty Burger, Lard Lad, and Moe’s Tavern there), as well as possibly replace Vacation Fun with a Simpsons themed short, if they would be willing to go that all in on it.

Either way they could also possibly have a Kwik-E-Mart souvenir shop, that could be designed like an actual convenience store (having aisles for stuff), possibly with the same layout too, possibly sell ICEEs skinned as Squishees, as well possibly having some of the convenience store food and drinks on the show (like Buzz Cola, Chippos, Krusty-O’s, etc.).

The attraction could possiblyhave a photo where the app gives you both the photo of you and a photo of you as a Simpsonized character. Could possibly also have a photo op of you sitting on the couch that does that too (giving two photos, one of you sitting on the couch in live action, the other of you sitting on the couch as a simpsonized cartoon character).

Currently the rights are held by the other place, but as unlike Marvel, they expire, Disney likely isn’t going to renew them (especially since it’s possible Aerosmith got replaced in part bc they didn’t renew the rights to letting Disney keep them), meaning they’d have to close their Simpsons area and Disney would be allowed to have stuff.

Things I could possibly see them doing

The abandoned Wonders of Life pavilion area that has more or less sat abandoned since the planned play pavilion got scratched, could work for an attraction, with a possible quick service Krusty Burger stand, Lard Lad Stand, and Moe’s Tavern stand, each of which similar in size to the World Showcase stands they have during festivals.

It would also be near part of the Monorail track, so they could possibly also remove the black deltas from Monorail Red, add red “Monorail” text on the front car below the window to look kind of like the one on the show, as well as possibly having Dan Castellaneta record the intercom lines for it as Homer (like the “Please stand clear of the doors, por favor manténgase alejado de las puertas” as well as the “we’re on our way to [the Transportation and Ticket Center/Epcot] and all the other prerecorded announcements), and leave it on the Epcot line, as well as spray painting an “El Barto“ on the concrete of the track in that area.

Could also put it at DHS and replace the Indiana Jones stunt show with it, as well as possibly replace the Backlot Express with food places (like having a Krusty Burger, Lard Lad, and Moe’s Tavern there), as well as possibly replace Vacation Fun with a Simpsons themed short, if they would be willing to go that all in on it.

Either way they could also possibly have a Kwik-E-Mart souvenir shop, that could be designed like an actual convenience store (having aisles for stuff), possibly with the same layout too, possibly sell ICEEs skinned as Squishees, as well possibly having some of the convenience store food and drinks on the show (like Buzz Cola, Chippos, Krusty-O’s, etc.).

The attraction could possiblyhave a photo where the app gives you both the photo of you and a photo of you as a Simpsonized character. Could possibly also have a photo op of you sitting on the couch that does that too (giving two photos, one of you sitting on the couch in live action, the other of you sitting on the couch as a simpsonized cartoon character).

They don’t make mistakes often, but sometimes it happens.

Two examples of mistakes:

Replacing Journey into Imagination with Journey into YOUR Imagination - Disney actually apologized for it and replaced it with the present day iteration, which brought back Figment, though not the Dreamfinder and was affected by the decision to truncate the track

Replacing Agent P’s World Showcase Adventure with Ducktales - As it would turn out, Ducktales got cancelled and Phineas and Ferb got revived (likely “for good” meaning any cancellation will be because the creators wish to retire) and they would have been better off just leaving it as is, plus I believe both the series and experience were still popular

They don’t make mistakes often, but sometimes it happens.

Two examples of mistakes:

Replacing Journey into Imagination with Journey into YOUR Imagination - Disney actually apologized for it and replaced it with the present day iteration, which brought back Figment, though not the Dreamfinder and was affected by the decision to truncate the track

Replacing Agent P’s World Showcase Adventure with Ducktales - As it would turn out, Ducktales got cancelled and Phineas and Ferb got revived (likely “for good” meaning any cancellation will be because the creators wish to retire) and they would have been better off just leaving it as is, plus I believe both the series and experience were still popular

In All-Stars, it has been said that out of the F3, everyone has a winning F2 combination.

Amber beats Rob

Rob beats Jenna

Jenna beats Amber

Does any other season (including ones with a F3 as well as international seasons) have this? If not, what is the closest example of this (like it being a vote away from happening or if 4th place made F3 instead of one of the three, it would have happened)?

My opinion

Borneo- no, Rich beats Kelly, Rudy beats both

AO- no, Tina beats both, Colby beats Keith

Africa- no, Ethan beats both, Lex beats Kim

Marquesas- no, Vecepia beats Neleh, Kathy beats both

Thailand- no, Brian beats Clay, Jan beats both

The Amazon- no, Jenna beats Matthew, Rob beats both

Pearl Islands- no, Sandra beats both, Fairplay beats Lill

All-Stars- yes, Amber beats Rob, Rob beats Jenna, Jenna beats Amber

Vanuatu- no, Chris beats both, Scout beats Twila

Palau- no, Tom beats both, Ian beats Katie

Guatemala- no, Danni beats both, Rafe beats Stephenie

Panama- no, Aras beats Danielle, Terry beats both

Fiji- no, Earl beats both, Cassandra beats Dreamz

Micronesia- no, Parvati beats Amanda, Cirie beats both

Tocantins- no, J.T. beats both, Stephen beats Erinn

Philippines- no, Denise beats both, Lisa (thankfully) beats Michael

Caramoan- no, Cochran beats both, Dawn beats Sherri

Cagayan- no, Tony beats both, Kass beats Woo

WA- no, Mike beats both, Carolyn beats Will

Cambodia- no, Jeremy beats both, Spencer beats Tasha

MvGX- no, Adam beats both, Hannah beats Ken

WaW- no, Tony beats both, Michele beats Natalie

44- no, Yam Yam beats both, Carolyn beats Heidi

49- no, Savannah beats both, Sage beats Sophi

All other F3 seasons- no, winner beats both, 2nd beats 3rd

In All-Stars, it has been said that out of the F3, everyone has a winning F2 combination.

Amber beats Rob

Rob beats Jenna

Jenna beats Amber

Does any other season (including ones with a F3 as well as international seasons) have this? If not, what is the closest example of this (like it being a vote away from happening or if 4th place made F3 instead of one of the three, it would have happened)?

My opinion

Borneo- no, Rich beats Kelly, Rudy beats both

AO- no, Tina beats both, Colby beats Keith

Africa- no, Ethan beats both, Lex beats Kim

Marquesas- no, Vecepia beats Neleh, Kathy beats both

Thailand- no, Brian beats Clay, Jan beats both

The Amazon- no, Jenna beats Matthew, Rob beats both

Pearl Islands- no, Sandra beats both, Fairplay beats Lill

All-Stars- yes, Amber beats Rob, Rob beats Jenna, Jenna beats Amber

Vanuatu- no, Chris beats both, Scout beats Twila

Palau- no, Tom beats both, Ian beats Katie

Guatemala- no, Danni beats both, Rafe beats Stephenie

Panama- no, Aras beats Danielle, Terry beats both

Fiji- no, Earl beats both, Cassandra beats Dreamz

Micronesia- no, Parvati beats Amanda, Cirie beats both

Tocantins- no, J.T. beats both, Stephen beats Erinn

Philippines- no, Denise beats both, Lisa (thankfully) beats Michael

Caramoan- no, Cochran beats both, Dawn beats Sherri

Cagayan- no, Tony beats both, Kass beats Woo

WA- no, Mike beats both, Carolyn beats Will

Cambodia- no, Jeremy beats both, Spencer beats Tasha

MvGX- no, Adam beats both, Hannah beats Ken

WaW- no, Tony beats both, Michele beats Natalie

44- no, Yam Yam beats both, Carolyn beats Heidi

49- no, Savannah beats both, Sage beats Sophi

All other F3 seasons- no, winner beats both, 2nd beats 3rd

F5 immunity challenge and elimination cycle is run as normal, where winner receives all the information.

That F5 winner gets to decide their opponent in one F4 endurance duel. Other two are paired up for the other F4 duel.

Whoever lasts the longest overall of the four automatically makes the Final Two.

The two losers of each duel would compete in a firemaking challenge for elimination in fourth place.

A F3 vote is then held where the firemaking winner does not get to vote. Other two would vote, with the other duel winner only able to vote for the firemaking winner.

If both voted for the firemaking winner, they are out by a 2-0 vote. If the overall winner voted the other person, it would lead to a 1-1 tie and a firemaking challenge between the two others.

This essentially means the overall winner gets to decide if the other duel winner sits with them or has to make fire against the firemaking winner.

Some new era examples with endurance challenges:

S50 example: Jonathan picks Aubry. Aubry and Joe win. Aubry wins overall. Rizo loses fire to Jonathan. Aubry votes for Jonathan, eliminating Jonathan 2-0. Aubry beats Joe 8-4 at worst (Chrissy, Coach, Jonathan, and Stephenie all voting Joe).

S48 example: Kamilla picks Kyle. Joe and Kyle win. Kyle wins overall. Kamilla loses fire to Eva. Kyle votes for Joe, leading to 1-1 tie. Joe loses fire to Eva. Kyle beats Eva 5-4 at worst (Cedrek, Joe, Mary, and Star all voting Eva).

S44 example: Carson picks Yam Yam. Carson and Heidi win. Heidi wins overall. Yam Yam loses fire to Carolyn. Heidi votes for Carson, leading to 1-1 tie. Carson loses fire to Carolyn. Carolyn beats Heidi 5-4 at worst (Brandon, Danny, Jaime, and Kane all voting Heidi).

S42 example: Mike picks Romeo. Jonathan and Romeo win. Romeo wins overall. Maryanne loses fire to Mike. Romeo votes for Mike, eliminating him 2-0. Romeo beats Jonathan 5-4 at worst (Hai, Mike, Omar, and Rocksroy all voting Jonathan).

F5 immunity challenge and elimination cycle is run as normal, where winner receives all the information.

That F5 winner gets to decide their opponent in one F4 endurance duel. Other two are paired up for the other F4 duel.

Whoever lasts the longest overall of the four automatically makes the Final Two.

The two losers of each duel would compete in a firemaking challenge for elimination in fourth place.

A F3 vote is then held where the firemaking winner does not get to vote. Other two would vote, with the other duel winner only able to vote for the firemaking winner.

If both voted for the firemaking winner, they are out by a 2-0 vote. If the overall winner voted the other person, it would lead to a 1-1 tie and a firemaking challenge between the two others.

This essentially means the overall winner gets to decide if the other duel winner sits with them or has to make fire against the firemaking winner.

Some new era examples with endurance challenges:

S50 example: Jonathan picks Aubry. Aubry and Joe win. Aubry wins overall. Rizo loses fire to Jonathan. Aubry votes for Jonathan, eliminating Jonathan 2-0. Aubry beats Joe 8-4 at worst (Chrissy, Coach, Jonathan, and Stephenie all voting Joe).

S48 example: Kamilla picks Kyle. Joe and Kyle win. Kyle wins overall. Kamilla loses fire to Eva. Kyle votes for Joe, leading to 1-1 tie. Joe loses fire to Eva. Kyle beats Eva 5-4 at worst (Cedrek, Joe, Mary, and Star all voting Eva).

S44 example: Carson picks Yam Yam. Carson and Heidi win. Heidi wins overall. Yam Yam loses fire to Carolyn. Heidi votes for Carson, leading to 1-1 tie. Carson loses fire to Carolyn. Carolyn beats Heidi 5-4 at worst (Brandon, Danny, Jaime, and Kane all voting Heidi).

S42 example: Mike picks Romeo. Jonathan and Romeo win. Romeo wins overall. Maryanne loses fire to Mike. Romeo votes for Mike, eliminating him 2-0. Romeo beats Jonathan 5-4 at worst (Hai, Mike, Omar, and Rocksroy all voting Jonathan).