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So as I'm gearing up to build my army, I am getting REALLY in the weeds planning my paint jobs. One roadblock is markings. I've already looked over Imperial Armory Volumes 10 and 12, and have heard most peoples opinion of "rule of cool, just paint what looks good". Unfortunately, my brand of autism says an internal logic is cool.

Do any of you have preferences or opinions on how to denote squad and company?

Despite deploying most often as a whole chapter, the Minotaurs still have companies. They do not designate them with colors like other chapters. Any ideas? Any ideas? I had previously thought I could base it off particular areas of the armor painted red, but with Red pauldrons already seeming to denote Veteran status, and red arms seeming to be for particularly aggressive units (melee weapon arm, or heavy guns), I have started to dislike the idea of using other red armor plates to designate Company.

Likewise, I had considered using greek letters to designate squad, but much of the artwork shows individuals with many MANY different letters each, so I don't exactly have a good idea for that either, and think the letters may be more akin to campaign badges, showing their military history each.

Then there is the matter of the chapter honours. IAv10 makes note of 2 minotaur specific honours, the Bloody Mantle and Red Hand. One would assume that the Red Hand is designated by hands painted red, though the unit with it noted being a Dreadnought and not having its one hand (other is a gun) red seems to contradict this. The Terminator with the Bloody Mantle doesn't seem to have anything unique about it compared to other terminators. I am using Wolfguard Headtakers with weapons swapped for spears as proxies for my bladeguard veterans, and think I might throw some red paint on the fur, and say the Bloody Mantle is an actual animal hide mantle, with red paint (symbolically blood)

Does anyone have opinions on any of this? insights? ways you have denoted company or squad in your own Minotaurs Army?

**turns chair around and sits on it cool style**
Hey, lets talk about child soldiers.

Where do you guys think the Minotaur's get their new recruits from? I've never heard it said outright, just speculation that they pick new aspirants up anywhere they go. I've also heard that in inducting new members, and in maintaining current battle brothers, they employ a greater-than-average amount of hypno-indoctrination for a space marine chapter.

With that in mind, I'm gonna float you an idea.
Any time they are sent after another space marine chapter, they take their aspirants. They have someone talk the kids down "hey the chapter that was raising you was selected to be purged for doing PROBABLY heretical things, but we know you are all young and probably innocent, don't worry, you'll still get a chance to be space marines", talk them down just enough to agree to some hypno-indoctrination, and then erase their memory of the prior chapter, and possibly even their homeworlds.

I don't think this is necessarily true, but it feels appropriately fucked up, for the minotaur's, and in a disturbing way, almost parasitic on other chapters. What do you guys think?

I'll try to keep this short, but the Lexicanum gives a line, with a source, but looking the source up, what they are claiming on the Lexicanum DIRECTLY contradicts their own source.

>Sanguinary Guard:
While it has been stated that all of the Blood Angels' Successor Chapters maintain a Sanguinary Guard, following the same colour scheme as that used by the Blood Angels - with the exception of the Angels Encarmine, whose Sanguinary Guard instead wear alabaster white armour -^([1b]) never have the Flesh Tearers' Sanguinary Guard been shown in the same colours as the rest of the chapter.^([7])

Most emphasis on that last section:

>never have the Flesh Tearers' Sanguinary Guard been shown in the same colours as the rest of the chapter.^([7])

So we look at the source, number 7: Crusade of Fire (Campaign Book), pg. 31

We look it up. The only text on the sanguinary guard on the page is: (regarding kitbashing and mixing and matching parts to get a chosen aesthetic)

>The Flesh Tearers were no exception, and although some squads (such as the Sanguinary Guards) are built pretty much straight out of the box, most use components from all manner of kits (in particular the Death Company Box Set).

This only makes statement on building them, NOT painting them. The REAL contradiction comes from the image on that page, which in the army shows sanguinary guards painted in standard Flesh Tearers colors, not Sanguinary Guard gold.

This is an official publication from GW so, should the Lexicanum be edited to correct this inconsistency? replacing "never have the" with "although"

If anyone here has edit permissions, could you make this change? or at least start a discussion section and bring it up there?

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Hey guys, sorry for the TERRIBLE context to ask this question in. First, context: I am starting a Minotaurs army, and I've been planning on basing them standing over the bodies of a defeated Space Marine army. Really just stomping them into the mud disrespectfully: I am making a minotaur army to be heels, because they are heels. I had some left over blood angels bits, including sanguinary guard wings, so figure Lamenters would be a good army to go with for laying on the bases: Minotaurs vs. Lamenters is a classic match up. Clearly this wouldn't actually be from the Badab war since the forces I'm making are majority Primaris, but rather a non-canon second more recent conflict with the two chapters.

All that setup aside, do folks here on the Lamenters side of reddit have a favorite Sanguinary Guard paintscheme? I've tried checking and can't find a canon one in lore. I've seen people do Gold like the Blood Angels, Silver, or off-white. I feel like all of these options have some pros and cons, and being able to see the good and bad in all of them, I have been left too indecisive to just make a call and want to see what the Lamenter side of reddit thinks.

Hey all. I'm planning on starting a Minotaur's army to get back into the hobby. For context, its been like 6 years since I was slapping together minis last. I have been planning the kitbashes, army roster, where I need to source which bits, with WAY to much detail, but one area I am still struggling is planning the paints. In general for their armor my goal is:

>Base in a nice dark brown.
>Drybrush on bronze
>Apply Nihilakh Oxide to the recesses (I really love how in the 10th and 12th issue of Imperial Armory there is a bit of oxide on their armor)
>Drybrush a hint of gold, or more bronze if there is too much oxide.

That said, there are like 3 games workshop bronzes (Sycorax, Warplock, Castellax), and it is really hard to identify the pros and cons of each, especially since the paint listings don't bother showing us test pieces painted with them (That would be TOO helpful)

Would you be so kind as to share your minis and what paints you used to achieve your bronzy finish? I am most interested in the metallic, but if you have found any particular base coats work REALLY well, or any other touches like a particular wash you'd recommend, I'm all ears.

Edit (I'm really shooting for that perfect bronze. Too yellow and it reads as brass or gold. too red and it reads as copper. I want that perfect middle metallic brown.)