How does Stoicism reconcile personal character development over pro-social outcomes (global happiness in utilitarianism)?

How does Stoicism reconcile personal character development over pro-social outcomes (global happiness in utilitarianism)?

Hello friends,

Massimo Pigliucci uses the example of a person volunteering at the local soup kitchen in order to add a valuable line on their resume. (link to video (around 00h49min))
Utilitarism would be OK with this behaviour in the idea that it ultimately works towards increasing the global happiness of the world, regardless of your motives.
On the contrary, this action would not fit stoicism, as it's motivated by un-virtuous motives and degrades your character.

My question is : is stoicism inherently more self-centered than utilitarism, that accepts to sacrifice part of an alleged global happiness in favour of developing one's own character ? and does it not contradict the stoicism pro-social, cosmopolitan view of mankind ?
Or do stoics believe that, becoming a flourishing, virtuous human being is incidently a way to ultimately achieve a greater global outcome of happiness for mankind ?

Or maybe stoics reject the very idea of a some global happiness and the way to have any rational control of how one's action would impact it, positively or not ? (which I think would be borderline bad faith in some cases)

u/gamasco — 9 hours ago

What are the skills unlockings that cause sleep regression ? using their hands, rolling over, crawling... what else ?

Hello,
My ~6 month old baby is pretty intense when it comes to sleep regressions, which happened when they unlocked a new skill, such as :

  • using their hands to catch things
  • rolling over
  • at the moment : crawling

So, what are the next skill unlockings likely to trigger new sleep difficulties ?
I can think of sitting up straight, and later walking.. anything else ?

cheers,

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u/gamasco — 10 hours ago

Living according to Nat.ure, yet rejecting anger ?

(couldn't post with the word "nature" in the title)

hello friends,

I watched this video with Massimo Piggliucci https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EmuBcIlWBs.

At some point he explains stoics aim to live according to Nature, and he equals that with 1/ act with reason and 2/ be social.

At the same time, he says some natural urges are actually harmful, like anger.

I got lost there ; what do the stoics mean then with "living according to Nature", when they reject some natural tendencies humans have such as anger ?

u/gamasco — 7 days ago
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Music / artiste credits have disappeared ? where can we find it ?

There used to be music credits on the top left corner, is it not displayed anymore ?

that's a bummer ; where can we find the music / artist credits ?

the link I use : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4VbdwhkE10

u/gamasco — 28 days ago

Daycare is close to my (33M) wife (33F) workplace, whereas for me it represents 2 hours of commute /day. How to make it fair and efficient time wise ?

My wife works close to daycare, dropping off our child represents an extra 15-20 minutes morning and evening – let's say 35 minutes. It also adds a constraint as she does not wish to put our child too early, and can not get it back too late. She can continue working at home, but they are meetings.

To me, it represents 4 times a 30 min commute, so 2 hours total.

The solution is kinda to split it 50/50, and it is what we agreed on.

Still it seems quite time inefficient. Like it's a net loss of 1h30 minutes of our mutual time (35 minutes of her time vs 2 hours of my time).

I would rather spend these 2 hours do other chores : laundry, groceries, errands, etc. For now it's like 50/50, but I certainly could do most if not all of it instead of commuting to daycare ; that's an arrangement I would be very happy with. More efficient.

Does it make sense ?
I am very pragmatic which can come across blunt, which is why I am interested in external views before talking to her about it. Rest assured I do value her time

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u/gamasco — 1 month ago

Sun-dried tomatoes petrified in olive oil, like a fossil in amber

Opened like 6 months ago, then stayed in the fridge, lid closed.
Best-before date is april 2027.

I am scared, and at the same time it's been bathing (ok, more like petrified) in olive oil which I guess must have preserved it ?

u/gamasco — 1 month ago

Leshp and Holy wood

Re-reading "Moving pictures" and looking at discworld maps, I realize that there is a sunken city off shore of Holy wood, basically destroyed by a long past invasion from the Dungeon Dimension.
And there is the lost continent of Leshp in "Jingo", which is also described as cursed and sunken...

Are they supposed to be the same place, or related to each other ?
Or just 2 different places that just happen in the same area and to meet similar fates ?

See the map for reference :https://imgur.com/i8TMoPZ (Holywood should be at marker 7 or 14)

u/gamasco — 1 month ago

Pourquoi passer par un PEA pour investir sur ETF world, alors que les assurances vie le propose aussi ?

Bonjour,

Pour qui souhaite investir sur un ETF world, y a-t-il un intérêt à passer par un PEA plutôt qu'une assurance vie ?

Je m'aperçois que l'assurance vie Boursovie par exemple propose d'investir sur des ETF world (ex : Amundi MSCI All Country World UCITS ETF EUR Acc / LU1829220216).

Quel intérêt alors de passer par un PEA pour investir sur un ETF world comparable ?
L'assurance vie n'est-elle pas strictement plus intéressante dans ce cas ? fiscalement avec l'abattement au bout de 8 ans + avantages en cas de succession)

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u/gamasco — 2 months ago

Assurance vie Boursovie : quels supports en unité de compte valent le coup ? (pour activer le bonus de 1,6% sur fonds euro)

Boursobank propose, sur son assurance vie Boursovie, un bonus de 1.6% à conditon d'investir au moins 30% sur un support "unité de compte" – de ma compréhension, ce sont,, comparativement au fonds euro, des supports plus risqués sans capital garantie.
https://www.boursobank.com/aide-en-ligne/assurance-vie/comment-fonctionne-l-assurance-vie/performances-et-frais-de-gestion/question/qu-est-ce-que-l-offre-boost-de-la-collecte-et-comment-en-beneficier-52911142

-> le bonus vaut-il le coup ?
-> le cas échéant, quels supports en unités de compte, accessibles via Boursovie, pouvez-vous conseiller ? quelque chose genre un ETF monde est-il accessible via Boursovie ? (j'investis déjà sur un ETF monde via mon PEA, donc le faire via Boursovie ça ne me changerait pas grand chose)

Voilà la liste des supports : https://bourse.boursobank.com/bourse/opcvm/recherche/?beginnerFundSearch%5Beligibility%5D%5B0%5D=lifeInsurance
(non non c'est pas du tout intimidant !)

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u/gamasco — 2 months ago

Something I noticed in Wyrd sisters, regarding Duke Felmet (spoilers)

... is that he is never once referred with the epithet king, as in "King Felmet".
Neither by a character, nor by the narrator.
I thought it was a way of showing that Felmet is universally not recognized as a legit king

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u/gamasco — 2 months ago

I am at a loss.
Should I wake him up to feed him, and quickly but him back to sleep ?
Or let it be ?...
I am afraid it will wreck his sleep schedule, like if he wakes up in the middle of the night thinking it's the morning or something.

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u/gamasco — 2 months ago