I'm planning to revert to stock, so if anyone needs it let me know.
Looks like flyscreen is around 2k mrp. I can sell it for 1k assuming it's a fair price.
If you are in bangalore, we can just meet up at a mechanic, swap the visor and install it
Isn't the idea of a democracy that when a majority of people want something reasonable, the government works toward making it happen?
If one person says, "I know what's best for the country, so my decision stands," doesn't that, at least a little, resemble a dictatorship?
Forget E0, at least E10 options? So many vehicles are just e10 compliant. Their initial target was 2030, they preponed it to 2025.
Did the people ask for it? Or did they ask the people even once?
This might just sound like a rant. But honestly I do not want people to stop voicing their opinions or else this will soon be forgotten as well.
I'm not completely against E20, it's just absolutely pitiful that they rushed the push. Must bunk owners don't know how to handle this blend, that it attracts moisture and how to store it.
And for people who keep saying E20 is good, issue is overblown etc. Remember honestly it's not just about e20, it's about reminding that we elected them, and they are public servants who will listen to us or convince logically, scientifically that it is fine.
As a car and bike owner, I do not want to spend unnecessarily on things whether those are rubber parts or fuel parts.
Phase out the vehicles first, and then introduce higher blends.
Give manufacturers time to adapt.
Let's please not let this die down.
Title ganne ka juice dalwane gaya hai.
This might be completely unrelated to this subreddit but the core issue is still the same - I feel with enough pressure if the govt. nudges this might be our first step towards setting a standard towards responsibility of the clown show they perform
This makes a new standard for accountability
All people need is reward - people refrain from getting involved coz they think it's of no use causing a vicious cycle of people not supporting enough to cause enough pressure leading to negative results
If we provide enough pressure and the government nudges people will find the incentive to criticise the government and yea issues related to ethanol can also be raised - but on a much larger scale
Please show as much as support as you can - whichever way possible
Had posted this in r/CarsIndia first and later on r/indianbikes but in both godi mods removed them almost immediately.
We're seeing it everyday on Social Media–drivers/owners screaming about their engines facing rust, corrosion, stalling—everyone is pointing the finger directly at ethanol.
But chemically speaking, ethanol is just doing what it naturally does. The actual culprit is the massive gap in our supply chain and storage infrastructure.
Here is what is actually happening on a molecular level, and why the government put the cart before the horse by rolling this out without fixing the foundational infrastructure first.
As a molecule, ethanol is hygroscopic. Because it contains a hydroxyl group (-OH), it is structurally similar to water (H₂O) and forms hydrogen bonds with it easily. If you expose ethanol to air, it acts like a chemical sponge, actively pulling humidity and moisture right out of the atmosphere.
When ethanol absorbs enough water, the ethanol-water mixture becomes heavier than the gasoline it is blended with. It drops to the bottom of the fuel tank in a process called phase separation. Your car's fuel pump sits at the bottom of the tank. Instead of pumping clean fuel, it ends up sucking up a highly corrosive, watery sludge that destroys engine components.
Ethanol itself is perfectly fine if kept in a completely sealed, bone-dry environment. But look at the journey our fuel takes:
When authorities test ethanol blends for safety and efficiency, they do it in highly controlled, climate-regulated laboratory environments.
What they aren't accounting for is the real-world Indian environment: 90% humidity during a Mumbai monsoon, flooded streets in Bengaluru, aging tanker trucks, microscopic leaks in underground storage tanks, and degraded rubber seals on older cars. The labs test a pristine product; our engines are drinking a compromised one.
Ethanol blending is a great concept on paper for reducing emissions and import bills, but India simply does not have the airtight, moisture-proof infrastructure required to support it at a nationwide scale.
Before mandating E10 and E20, the government should have mandated and subsidized a massive overhaul of transport tankers, underground storage tanks, and pump filtration systems. We are treating a highly sensitive chemical compound like it’s regular old crude oil, and consumers are paying the price in massive repair bills.
No one asking the authorities asking the government the hard questions on a molecular level.
I've only been witnessing everyone pointing to a damaged engine or fuel tank–and then Gandkari defending saying that it is propaganda and that their lab tests didn't reveal any damage.
Until we fix the supply chain to respect the basic chemistry of ethanol, our engines will keep paying the price.
P.S. #GadkarikiMKC
A short opinion survey that would take atmost 45s of your time. I'd highly appreciate you honestly filling it for better analytics of concerns rose over the fuel in recent times.
Suppose you have an e10 car. The price of e10 petrol is 100 Rs/l. your car gives a mileage of 20kmpl and you drive 100kms a day.
fuel needed 100/20 = 5 liters
cost of fuel = 100 x 5 = 500
Now government starts blending petrol with 20% ethanol, the price of petrol is same and your usage is also same.
As per the some experts, you will feel a drop of 10% in the mileage( my real life experience tells me that the fuel efficiency goes down by 20% min). But we will take 10% dip in mileage just to respect our ethanol mantri.
now to drive 100 kms with e20 blending, the price is
Fuel needed 100/18 = 5.56 liters.
cost of fuel = 5.56 x 100 = 556.
We will not talk about that the e20 fuel government is selling you is at the same price of e10 and the government is actually saving 4 rupees on every liter as blending grade ethanol is 40% cheaper than petrol if we even consider e10 as pure petrol.
So you will be paying 56 rupees per day just for the sustainability. But is this blending actually sustainable?
So ethanol is majorly extracted from 3 sources and we will, from end to start calculate the water used in making 1 liter of ethnol
Rice-based Ethanol: Up to 10,790 liters of water per liter of ethanol (since growing paddy requires enormous groundwater irrigation).
Sugarcane-based Ethanol: 1,600 to 3,600 liters of water.
Corn/Maize-based Ethanol: 10 to 17 liters in rain-fed regions (like parts of the US), but up to 4,670 liters if grown in highly irrigated areas.
Sugarcane based production wastes less amount of water and our ethanol minister also owns sugar mills just for saving water, so our calculations will be based on that.
So you are using 5.56 liters of e20 petrol as compared to 5 liters e10 petrol. so in this 5.56 liters of petrol, the quantity of ethanol when you consider e10 as pure petrol.
10% of 5.56 = 556ml of ethanol.
The sugarcane takes around 1600-3600 liters of water, but as we are fan of our ethanol mantri, we will calculate the wastage on 1600 liters.
Amount of water wasted to make 556ml of ethanol
0.556 liters × 1,600 liters = 889.6 liters
In short you are wasting 889 liters of water every day in a country having water scarcity in many parts, just for what? for the sake of sustainability and prosperity of our beloved mantri ji.
But the story does not end here
Lets talk about the pure petrol you are using in both the cases
CASE 1 When you are using e10 petrol, driving 100km @ 100 rupees per liter price and fuel consumption is 5 liter.
90% of 5 liter = 4.500 liters of pure petrol
CASE 2 When you are using e20 petrol, driving 100km @ 100 rupees per liter price and fuel consumption is 5.56 liter
80% of 5.56 liter = 4.448 liters of pure petrol.
So if we calculate the net difference in petrol
4.500 - 4.448 = 0.0052 liters
Guys you are saving 52 ml of petrol import and wasting 889.6 liters of water in your daily commute, that too if you drive cars like alto, wagon r (even they dont give 20kmpl in city on ac).
We will not talk about the maintenance aspect, as it will hurt your bum more.
I rest my case here, if you have any questions, or my calculations are wrong somewhere, comments are welcome.
If anyone of you is upgrading seat to the quilted touring seat I can buy your original seats, was looking for the stock seats.
Do let me know if you are planning