u/pbhuvan

Google recently said that having an llms.txt file won’t help your Google Search rankings.

But I still see it near the top of a lot of AEO/GEO checklists:

• Add llms.txt
• Make your site AI-readable
• Submit content for LLM crawlers
• etc.

I'm starting to wonder if we're optimizing for things that are easy to check rather than things that actually influence whether an AI recommends a brand.

Has anyone here actually seen a measurable difference after implementing llms.txt?

I know adding llm.txt is advisable to help LLM pick the website, but is it necessary? Is there any relevant data?

I read many comments saying the score is of no use, what do you guys think?

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It is sad to see Argentina's players and foreign minister weaponising the 1982 Falklands War for pre-game hype, completely undermining coach Lionel Scaloni's pleas to keep this as just a football match.

History explicitly proves that England and Argentina cannot play a knockout game without absolute chaos, whether it’s Rattín’s 1966 police escort, the 1986 "Hand of God", or Beckham's 1998 red card, a massive refereeing controversy tonight feels completely inevitable.

WHO deserves to win today?

I spent 5+ years in content and SEO. worked across B2B and B2C SaaS. I know how to structure content, I know how search works, I've written for enough brands to know what "good" looks like.

So when AEO and GEO is getting the hype, I spent the last two weeks testing whatever tool I could find, at least 20 of them.

and here's the thing:

every single tool gives me a different visibility score for the same brand. Not slightly different. Wildly different. :D

One tool says 67, another says 23, another says I'm not being cited at all.

I don't know what they're measuring. I don't know how they're generating the questions they send to LLMs. I don't know if they're running one query or ten. I don't know which models they're actually hitting.

and if I don't know that, how am I supposed to trust the number?

if you've been following me here, you'll know I've been playing with AEO/GEO for a while. Every Redditor, like me, found inconsistent scores, no transparency on methodology, no actionable output. Just a number that means nothing.

At this point I'm genuinely wondering: Should I just build the tool myself?

I know what I want from it. I know what questions matter. I know what actionable output looks like for a content team and after reading this community's feedback for weeks, I think a lot of you know exactly what's missing too.

What's the one thing you hate most about the AI visibility tools you've tried?

Is it because the AI visibility didn't fetch the data properly?

or was the website's content was not good?

What do you guys think of AI visibilty tool and its credibility?

Off late, I am seeing a lot of AI visibility tools everywhere, sometimes there's a launch on Product hunt every day. And even I thought to build an AI visibility tool if there's so much market for it.

Will there be so much demand for AEO tools after a year or two?

Sometimes I feel 16 days is too slow when I see people shipping in 1-2 days. But I'm from a non-technical background with zero prior coding experience. I vibecoded my way through it and shipped a working product.

Honestly, the build part was easier than I expected. The GTM part is where I'm stuck now.

So I just wanted to ask fellow builders one specific question.

What actually got you your first paying user?

The first person who paid. What did you do, say, or build that made that happen?

This is my first product. Would love to hear what worked for you, even if it small one.

Sometimes I feel like 16 days is too much while others are building in 1-2 days.

It's fine, I am from a non-technical background. No prior coding background.

I vibecoded and shipped a working product.

Being a non-tech person, I got the build part easily, still figuring out the GTM part. Now I am just doing GTM.

I just wanted to know this from fellow builders: For founders who've shipped something, what actually got you your first paying user?

Not your first signup, not your first waitlist entry. The first person who paid.

btw, this is my first product.

Two and a half weeks.

That's how long it took for Anthropic's most restricted models to go from 'national security risk' to cleared for global release again.

What do you think happened behind closed doors?

I have been seeing this recommendation everywhere as a default AEO/GEO checklist item, but I haven't found anyone who's actually A/B tested on it.

Just wanted to know if anyone here has actual before/after data.

Has it done anything measurable, or is everyone just adding it because everyone says to?