Hope of revival of Kannada letters ಱ (ṟa) and ೞ (ḻa)

For those who don't know about ಱ (ṟa) and ೞ (ḻa) letters

These are letters which were present in Halegannada (Old Kannada) but lost in Hosagannada (New Kannada)

It is written as റ and ഴ in Malayalam, and ற and ழ in Tamil

And even after being lost these letters were taught in Kannada varnamala in schools till 1970s-1980s but after that it was never taught in schools again

But recently especially in PUCs (Pre-University college) these 2 letters were taught again to students for reading Maharabharata written in Halegannada

Due to it these 2 letters now maybe revived among new generation and I hope so soon in every schools and colleges which has Kannada language subject again teach students letter ಱ and ೞ and also include it back in Kannada varnamala

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u/tuluva_sikh — 21 hours ago
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"Pha" sound becoming "Fa" in most of Indian languages

"Pha" is aspirated sound of "Pa" and most of Indian languages especially languages originated from Prakrit languages have this sound natively

And I have noticed since many decades this sound is being replaced by "Fa" sound in languages like Hindi, Marathi, Konkani, Gujarati etc

Words like "Phir" being pronounced as "Fir", "Phal" being pronounced as "Fal", "Phukaṭ" (used in Marathi) being pronounced as "Fukaṭ" etc

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u/tuluva_sikh — 23 hours ago

Tulu (archaic/old) words with letter ೞ/ഴ (ḻa)

ಅೞ/അഴ (aḻa) = land

ಅವುೞ್/അവുഴ് (avuḻ) = there

ಈರೇೞ್/ഈരേഴ് (īrēḻ) = 14

ಉ್‌ೞೆ/ഉ്ഴെ (ụḻæ) = land

ಏಪೞ್ತಲ/ഏപഴ്തല (ēpaḻtla) = whenever

ಏೞ್ವೆರ್/ഏഴ്വെര് (ēḻver) = 7 people

ಒರ್ೞ್ತೆ/ഒഴ്ൎതെ (oḻrte) = other

ಒೞ್ತ್‌ಳ್ಳ/ഒഴ്ത്ള്ള (oḻtḷḷa) = other

ಒೞ್ತ್‌ಳ್ಳವೆನಿಲ/ഒഴ്ത്ള്ളവെനില (oḻtḷḷavenila) = something else

ಒೞ್ಪ/ഒഴ്പ (oḻpa) = where

ಓೞ್ತ್/ഓഴ്ത് (ōḻt) = from where

ಕೞಿನಾಟ್ಟಕ್/കഴിനാട്ടക് (kaḻināṭṭk) = until subtracted

ಕೞ್ತಲೆ/കഴ്തലെ (kaḻtale) = darkness

ಕೇೞ್/കേഴ് (kēḻ) = ask

ಕೊೞ್/കൊഴ് (koḻ) = give

ಕೊೞಿ/കൊഴി (koḻi) = chicken

ಜಾವೊೞ್ತಿ/ജാവുഴ്തി (jāvuḻti) = who is it

ಜಾವೊರ್ೞ್ತಿ/ജാവുഴ്ൎതി (jāvuḻrti) = who is it

ತಿಗ್‌ೞ್/തിഗ്ഴ് (tigḻ) = cleft

ಪಗೞಿ/പഗഴി (pagaḻi) = arrow

ಪೊೞ್ತ್/പൊഴ്ത് (poḻt) = while

ಬೞ್/ബഴ് (baḻ) = come

ಬೞ್ತೆನ್/ബഴ്തിന് (baḻtin) = arrived

ಬೆೞ್ಪಾಕೂ/ബെഴ്വാകൂ (beḻvāku) = light

ಬೋೞ್ತಿ/ബോഴ്തി (bōḻti) = require/need

ಮಗ್‌ೞಲ/മഗ്ഴല (magḻala) = again

ಮಗ್‌ೞ್ತೊರಿ/മഗ്ഴ്തൊരി (magḻtori) = someone else

ಮೞಿಯಾಲ/മഴിയാല (maḻiyāla) = rain

ವೊೞ್ತ್‌ಳ್ಳ/വൊഴ്ത്ള്ള (voḻtḷḷa) = other

ಶಿಗ್‌ೞ್/ശിഗ്ഴ് ( śigḻ) = cleft

ಶುೞ್ಯಿ/ശുഴ്യി (śuḻyi) = skin

ಷೞ್ಗಿಣೊ/ഷഴ്ഗിണൊ (ṣaḷgiṇo) = 6 skills

ಸ್ದ್‌ತ್ತೞ್ತ್‌ತೆರ್/സ്ദ്ത്തഴ്ത്തെര് (sdttaḻtter) = giver (the one/those who give)

ಸ್ದ್‌ೞಿತರ್ಪಿ/സ്ദ്ഴിതൎപി (sdḻitarpi) = comer (the one/those who come)

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u/tuluva_sikh — 4 days ago