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From Patrick Clancy's civil suit

64. The standard of care also required Dr. Tufts and Nurse Jollotta to assess and monitor a patient who had an unusual, unexpected or unfavorable reaction to medication, such as side effects or a lack of response. A simple way to do so was to order blood plasma levels of medication in order to determine whether the patient was a slow metabolizer, and thus more drastically impacted by a medication than she otherwise would be, or on the contrary, whether the medication simply was not working, either indicating that the patient might need a higher dose for it to be effective (if she was a fast metabolizer) or that the patient might have an underlying medical condition that needed to be treated. The standard of care required Dr. Tufts and Nurse Jollotta to look at the lab results in conjunction with the patient's symptoms in order to properly assess her condition. Indeed, the standard of care is to start low and go slow, meaning to begin a medication at a minimal level and slowly increase the dosage over time to allow the provider to better assess the impact of the drug upon the patient.

Question : For anyone here who has had similar experience in terms of having an adverse reaction to prescribed medication, is it typical for a psychiatrist/mental health provider to order for lab tests to be carried out immediately in this situation?

Acknowledgement : Thank you all for your answers! I’ve gained a substantial amount of knowledge regarding this subject matter so thanks again, much appreciated!

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u/AdZealousideal7217 — 11 days ago

Lindsey Clancey

I’ve been arguing w a female friend for 2 days now about it and driving me insane.

The points she makes and I want you guys to see if I’m right or wrong bc I genuinely don’t see her side at all

WiFi was off so cameras was off - 0 proof of this, only semi proof is Patrick saying his phone was switching through WiFi and cell service but that doesn’t mean it was off.

Email being sent at home - he could’ve sent it through his phone while he was out, it doesn’t mean anything.

He got home before she jumped - there is CTTV FOOTAGE OF HIM outside doing errands SHE sent him on like picking up the food SHE ordered and timeline says he makes it home after she jumped plus phone calls of the scene u can hear Patrick fully shocked and unless he’s an actor he can’t stimulate fear like that.

He took her Apple Watch she always wore since it would detect a big fall and call police- no proof he actually took the Apple Watch since it was in a drawer at home. No idea if that watch even had that feature.

His DNA on exercise bands - he said himself he took one off and it’s EXERCISE BANDS that he has used before so ofc it does

Got married 3 years after so he planned it for a new life - genuinely just conspiracy theories

He manipulated her - not ONCE has the court said this or even Lindsey said this just going off no evidence (the man telling her to do it is her mental condition.)

I get the argument he shoudve been more cautious and report any weird behaviour but how would anyone ever believe your wife of numerous years that you had 3 kids with would do this.

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u/JuggernautAlert7083 — 11 days ago

I need some opinions.

I’m not saying postpartum psychosis isn’t real. It is. My problem is with how quickly explanation is turning into excuse.
There is a massive difference between being hormonal, depressed, overwhelmed, having intrusive thoughts, and being so severely psychotic that you genuinely cannot understand reality or know that killing your children is wrong.
That line matters.
When people start normalizing statements like “I’ve wanted to kill my kids” or “that could have been me,” especially to audiences of hundreds of thousands of people, I think we should be extremely careful about the culture we’re creating around personal responsibility.
If someone truly could not understand what they were doing because of severe psychosis, prove it to the appropriate legal standard and put them in secure psychiatric treatment.
But if someone understood what they were doing and knew it was wrong, mental illness shouldn’t become a shield from accountability.
We can care about struggling mothers while also remembering who needs our protection most: the children.
My concern isn’t about attacking women or denying mental illness. It’s about protecting the line between understanding someone’s actions and excusing them.
Once society starts treating those two things as the same, we weaken personal responsibility and the innocent people harmed are the ones who ultimately pay for it.

If think a just solution to the case if she is declared insane, is mental institution for a long time.

Clancy may have experienced genuine mental illness while still knowingly killing her children for reasons involving resentment, anger, or wanting escape from motherhood. Mental illness and intentional motive aren’t mutually exclusive. This could also factor into the case and is a concern of mine

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u/Future-Map-1353 — 10 days ago

Social media toxicity in this case

Why does everyone on social media feel the need to get involved and think they are an expert in the LC case?

I have seen so many posts (with thousands of views and shares) where people say "as a nurse" "as a doctor" "as a dental hygienist" "as a body language expert".... And just because these people use some kind of title, their observation or opinions (which are often wrong), become fact.

It's crazy to see how many people believe what they see on a single Instagram post, and automatically believe it as a 100% fact. People are unable to think for themselves anymore and it's honestly scary.

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u/Ok_Bookkeeper_4511 — 11 days ago

I watched Shutter Island last night and never realized how eerily similar it was to the Clancy case.

For those who never seen the movie, this goes without saying: SPOILER ALERT.

Leonardo DiCaprio plays a Marshal who is trying to locate a missing person on an island for the criminally insane. You find out through the course of the movie that he is an inmate. Then you find out why.

In the reveal scene, Leonardo‘s character Andrew Landis came home to find that his wife had killed all three of her children, drowning them in the lake outside their home. It’s revealed that the wife is mentally sick and the signs were ignored by her husband.

I was watching it with someone who had never seen it and asked, “who would do that to their own children?”

Welp….

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u/Superb-Donkey7202 — 10 days ago