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Watercore

Watercore is a trait that has been bred out of commercial apple varieties because it reduces the ability to chill store apples for 6+ months and aesthetically is not pleasing to Western eyes.
It's from an accumulation of sorbitol inside and between the cells, sorbitol is the sugar alcohol that makes pears taste sweet, (and perry from pears too, as it’s not metabolised by yeasts). Watercore seems to be yet another trait that has been sacrificed at the altar of Western tastes. However other cultures favour these differences and celebrate them. Watercore is sought after in Japan due to the sweetness it brings.
Normally, a tree transports sorbitol from the leaves to the apple, in which the fruit cells then convert it into fructose. With watercore, sorbitol is translocated to the fruit faster than it can be processed. Because the cells cannot absorb the excess sorbitol, it leaks into the intracellular spaces by the osmotic pressure gradient across the cell wall. This fluid-filled space reduces light scattering, making the flesh look glassy, translucent, or water-soaked.
Environmental factors like high daytime sun/heat combined with low nighttime temperatures, as well as over-maturity and calcium deficiency, accelerate sorbitol production. Sorbitol is the primary product of photosynthesis in apples and makes up the vast majority (about 60–80%) of the carbohydrates exported from the leaves to the fruit. #apples #watercore #sorbitol

u/TrevorCidermaker — 1 day ago
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Antique hydraulic cider press

Greetings friends,

We have a small apple orchard and this old press has been waiting patiently in the barn to be brought back to life. I want to try and rebuild it so we can put it to work again. I'm wondering if anyone here is familiar with this machine or has any information about it. I'm guessing it's about 100 years old, and the brass plate indicates it was manufactured by the Hydraulic Press Company out of Mt. Gilead, OH.

It is set up to be run on a belt drive and the top shaft has a scratter/grinder integrated into it. It looks like it could do some serious work, though it was definitely built back before safety features were commonplace.

u/austinbicycletour — 2 days ago
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American cider

Hello everyone! I’ll be graduating in a few months from a school specialising in cider production. I live in France, but I see lots of images from the US with a distinctive aesthetic when it comes to cider (like this one). Do you think it would be possible to find a job for a few months at an American cidery? Is the process really that different? I’ve never tasted American cider – is it very different?

Thank you for your help!

https://preview.redd.it/m9n22u99lw1h1.jpg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46d7b385b806487872788597158d8b57b61d5964

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u/AutomneNorm — 4 days ago
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Selling cider in the uk

Has anyone had any experience setting up selling small scale cider in the uk, ive been doing homebrew for a while and would love to scale up slightly to start selling it, we've done some research and need to register with appa but there seems to be conflicting information on the Internet. If anyone has any experience or information it would be much appreciated.

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u/Ok_Tailor9499 — 3 days ago
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Good uk supermarket ciders please?

To cut a long story short i love sour beers, new england ipas BUT due to bowel health issues ive been suggested to switch to cider.

I am totally unfamiliar with whats good/bad cider these days!!

I bought on a whim a 750ml aspalls premier cru and a thatchers haze from booths. Both of which i liked and opposite ends of price lol. I also bought some little ponoma cider which i liked but it was from a craft beer shop 35 miles away so obvs cant just go there whenever i fancy a cider

So, what uk supermarket ciders are the least offensive if i want minimal/no sulphites, a hazy/spritzy mouthfeel and not too sparkling?

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u/Spottyjamie — 4 days ago
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First time brewing cider

I've brewed beer before. I'm brewing 4.5 litres of apple and mango juice in a demi john. Its from my local tesco. 90 apple juice with 10 mango pulp and some added ascorbic acid. I've added ale yeast and it's currently bubbling away nicely.

Normally with beer I'd ferment it for 2 weeks and bottle condition for 2-4. How long should I bottle conditioning cider for?

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u/Blackcrusader — 6 days ago
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Cider book review

A cider book well worth reading. Ciderlore: Cider in the Three Counties 2003 by Fiona Mac. Fiona is an author and journalist and explores the historical and cultural aspects of the cider industry, specifically focusing on Herefordshire, Gloucestershire, and
Worcestershire, capturing interviews with local orchardists, cider-makers, and drinkers. Fiona is a national campaigner for CAMRA (Campaign for Real Ale) who defends the preservation of small scale cider and perry making through her in depth knowledge of cider and perry as a vibrant, living tradition. #cider #perry #book #folklore #history

u/TrevorCidermaker — 5 days ago
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Medlars

Autumn time in the orchard here in Wairarapa Aotearoa,and time for medlar harvest. Medlars ripen later than most fruit and after the frosts set in were originally from the Middle East partic around the Caspian Sea. Traders brought them early to England where they were an important fruit in Autumn when other food was getting scare. It is recorded that they were added to cider in the 1700’s so we do so to with fruit we grow ourselves. #medlar #cider #autumn

u/TrevorCidermaker — 7 days ago
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Hartpury Perry pear centre.

For those in the UK or visiting like I did, The Orchards at Hartpury are well worth a visit. They contain the National Perry Pear collection – at least two examples of most known varieties of perry pear, and also other pome fruits all planted by Hartpury Heritage Trust since 2006. Funding for the creation of the Centre came from both public sources and private philanthropy.
There are 30 acres of orchards and wetlands open for the public and grazed through the summer months by Ryeland sheep and Gloucester cattle. Dogs on leads are welcome. There is an oak framed Orchard Visitor Centre with information point about perry pears.
#perry #pears

u/TrevorCidermaker — 6 days ago
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Hopped cider

These hit extra nice with warmer weather.

u/Pedason — 6 days ago
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Any recommendations of other brands that tastes like Blake’s rainbow seeker?

It’s my fav and haven’t had in about 3 years. I keep searching for something that comes close.

Has anyone found one that’s close?

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u/Liontamer67 — 7 days ago
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First time brewing cider

I’ve decided to make my own cider the weekend just gone. I’m not sure what inspired me, probably the lack of decent cider at your average Australian liquor store.

It’s going ok, I was a little worried as on the second day of brewing the cider was extremely thick. We thought it was the sugar but I’m not so sure it was. I don’t think it’s bacterial, my research suggests it’s the pectin.

Currently brewing 18 litres (I should have started off with a smaller batch, but here we are). It’s day 4 and the airlock is bubbling away. Screwed up because I didn’t have a hydrometer on day 1. Day 2 I took a reading and it was off the charts.

Questions do I..

Add pectin enzymes?
And/or yeast nutrients?

I’ve used 15 litres of cloudy apple juice (no additives), 2 x Granny Smiths, 2 x Pink Laddies, 4 x Kanzi and 2 x Royal Gala. I put about 700 grams of sugar in it, which I’m now regretting, and brewed two teabags for the tannins. Yeast lalvin EC-1118.

Based on recipes I’ve found online the general consensus for ABV is around 7%.

Anyway first timer and I guess if I screw it up, I’ll learn somethings from it.

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u/VertsAFeuilles — 10 days ago
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Fluid expansion?

So I’ve got a cider from the fall (October) that I noticed had risen up into the airlock. I’ve had this happen during active primary fermentation but not over a half year later. I previously had maybe 1/4 to 1/2 inch of headspace, but the liquid had risen up to the level of the bung. I feel like it goes against the laws of physics for the fluid volume to increase for any reason.

Anyone had this happen before? Any hypotheses?

Btw I emptied and cleaned the airlock and siphoned off a very small amount of cider so it wasn’t touching the bung / rubber stopper.

u/DrAwkwardAZ — 9 days ago
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looking for work in east coast

im 22 from Pa,and im looking for a large scale winery/cidery for cellar work around the east coast.are there any places hirring full time. i have 1 year of experience so far.

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u/Low-Light-5249 — 11 days ago
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I have this giant press I will never use and I would like to sell it. The wood is bad but I believe all the metal parts are there.

What is something like this worth? I'm in Florida so it would probably have to be a local sale. The stand and screw are about 5 feet tall.

Is there somewhere I should look for a makers mark?

Sorry if this isn't the appropriate subreddit, I figured I'd try here first.

u/itsbedeliabitch — 12 days ago
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I want to make my own cider...

I have never brewed or fermented anything, but I want to make my own cider. What were some things you learned along the way that could help a beginner out. I am looking at kits online and various YouTube tutorials but want to perfect this. I know I won't on the first go around but I want to do it safely. Any advice is welcome thank you

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u/Hour-Negotiation8918 — 12 days ago
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Greetings from Latvia 🇱🇻🍎

Stabilized semi sweet cider with chuckle berry.

The most interesting part is that from all 11 yeast tests, the best so far turned out to be wild fermented cider with the most complex palate and thickness and depth wih unique and fresh apple aroma. Very sad to know that it is almost impossible to get the same result next year.

To all my cider lovers around the world.

u/Brief-List5772 — 12 days ago