r/lokean

I'm heartbroken. Something goes wrong every time i try to find a devotional piece to wear for loki. Rings, necklaces, bracelets, ect. Something always ends up getting lost or breaking. This one necklace had a protection rune on it, but every time I wore it, I'd have an absolutely horrible day. The last devotional jewelry i got was a necklace that I bought back in May. I genuinely thought it was THE devotional necklace. But i come home from work today, and I find my roommates puppy in my room, and it completely tore up my necklace. I just broke down and started crying. Because why can't I ever have any jewelry for Loki? I know it's not needed, but it's something I really want. I feel so rejected by Loki, by the whole religion. And I'm so upset because it's one of the few good things I have in my life. Is Loki mad at me? Rejection me? Don't want to work with me anymore? I just keep repeating this questions in my head because I don't feel like I'm enough.

Hey! So I'm a pagan from a long time, but because I'm a hidden witch I had a hard time to start with any God. From some time I feel that pull towards Loki - since I started thinking about giving myself to any God in General at first I can thought Hekate, then Persephone and a fev more, but Loki is the one that stayed in my mind for a longer while. I tried to look how do u even approach this, but only thing u found is "pray".

Is it really that simple? Can I just be like "so Hey dear God Loki, you're across my mind for quite some time, could you give me a sign if I can offer myself to you?"?

Next thing is: I'm a hidden witch, living with my parents and it won't change for some time. How about altar? I can't make it proper. Do you thing a special candle for him would be enought? Could I give offerings somewhere in th nature for example?

I know those questions might sound silly but I really have a problem with finding any info about proper practice with Loki, and I fear making such stupid mistakes

okay, so this pisses me off about Norse Heathenism specifically. Such a large (or seemingly so) portion of modern heathens seem to deem any UPG as frivolous and/or borderline dangerous (from my POV and understanding). There is such a huge focus on historical accuracy and being like the heathens of old. THERE CAN BE NO EXACT HISTORICAL ACCURACY.

I see nothing wrong with heathens who strive for historical accuracy (as long as they don’t shove it down my throat and try to force my practice to look like theirs), but we simply do not have enough solid sources to be able to actually have a complete and historically accurate practice. And that’s okay. Don’t get me wrong, I am NOT saying that it is meaningless or unnecessary to look at the sources, history, archaeological finds, etc. etc. I absolutely think there’s value in that. I like to take the route of trying to balance historical accuracy with my own actual experiences. But to say that someone’s personal, modern experience is invalid because “there’s no proof that xyz was practiced” or “there’s no historical evidence that so and so was worshiped.” is honestly sad. like I feel sorry for people who feel so boxed in. this is not Christianity, you have freedom, there are no 10000% set in stone commandments you must follow. have your own opinions, thoughts, actual experiences. Don’t *just* look to history.

we are not in the viking age. The year is 2026 people. We are living in the here and now and religion is meant to evolve and grow and change. It was a dead religion before people found interest in it again (at least as far as I'm aware). It’s beautiful and wonderful to have had this revival, but why are we trying to keep it chained to the past? The dust has settled, it’s time to move forward.

If you need history to tell you how your relationship with the gods should go, yikes. You aren’t actually creating a relationship with that god, you’re creating a relationship with the idea you’re forcing on them from over a thousand years ago (IMO). Just like humans, gods evolve so let’s stop trying to force them to be a certain way and just let them come to us as they are.

This has been heavy on my mind for a while and man I just needed to rant. I know a lot of heathens would probably disagree with me, which is perfectly okay. We are allowed to all have our different opinions, this is just mine.

also f*k f*scists, f*k r*cists, f*k b*gots. those are heathens I do NOT respect and will not try to have meaningful discourse with. otherwise I’m curious what other people might think…

So I prayed to Loki again for the first time in a long time. I stepped away from deity worship for a While and now I’m getting into it again and decided to rekindle a relationship again. I prayed for him to show himself to me through signs etc. so get this right?? Later that day I was in bed and I heard some bags move on its own which is already spooky as it it is but as I was walking to check it out I stepped in dog doodoo!! 😂 mind you my dog rarely makes accidents in the house especially in my room so this a first in a veeery long time. I believe that was him like I knew right away. I cleaned his old altar and I put some new offerings in there because well… he did show himself lol So I just wanted to know what that means in terms of him reaching out whether it means it’s a good or bad thing. Tell me yall thoughts and advice! (: ( with kindness! )

Well today is my 21st birthday, and it felt like the perfect day to have an energy attunement with Loki done(if the person who did it for me is on here, thank you.) And wow. It was certainly intense for me. 20 minutes after it was done, I felt oddly sensitive/emotional to everything. I was at work, and had to go into the break room to cry. But after that, I felt happy, and now i feel peaceful. The emotions I was feeling was a much needed energy release to let go of some of the heavy feelings I've been carrying. And now i feel even more closer to Loki after the Attunement. I went straight to his altar after i got home, and that's where I'm currently at. And it's where I've been spending most of my time recently. It's my comfort zone, really.

Hi! I have a bit of a situation and would really appreciate any advice, other’s experience or ideas what to even think about this.

I have been a follower of Loki for a few years. A lot of it was good and very helpful and interesting and enlightening. But around a year ago in a meditation-journey-vision-experience Loki tricked me, which has been causing me problems ever since.

I wanted to believe that it was all for the better, kind of a misfortune that will give way to something better but honestly I don’t think it has at all.

I have paused working with Loki for a few months now completely but this left me questioning the whole paganism witchcraft spirituality everything. Why would a deity that I thought was trying to help me, I had a good connection with, actively harm me? Would thinking that not play into the “bad” Loki stereotypes? But it has been my experience.

Honestly I feel like I have been outcasted by the god of outcasts. And it all feels shit. And I don’t even know what I did wrong.

Any help or advice would be really appreciated.

Hi! I've been worshipping Loki for I think almost over a year now? So I'm relatively new, I decided to worship Loki because I've always felt a strong connection to him and I realized how often he appeared throughout my childhood once I did some research into him.

I feel his presence very strongly, he also sent me so many spiders that my ceiling has stains from the ones I've had to kill. I had one crawl on my hand while I was using my mouse, one in my keyboard while I was sitting at my desk, one that came down from the ceiling directly in front of my face TWICE, One that crawled on the book I was reading in my bed in the middle of the night and many many others. I assumed the sudden amount of them was him trying to get my attention, I thought maybe he wanted to talk to me.

I've seen a lot of people use tarot cards to communicate with him and he himself has given me many signs to buy a deck. I eventually did and I feel very connected to my cards but I'm not really sure where to start? I've tried asking what he wanted to tell me and just pulling a random card and looking up the meaning but I still feel pretty lost. I don't have much faith or confidence in myself so honestly that's probably why I feel this way.

I mainly just want to know how to connect with him more? I have a candle for him that I light every once in a while and I have a shrine of silly objects he seems to like. Does anyone have any recommendations on how I can communicate with him or worship him properly? Any advice would be appreciated.

Never stop feeling for yourselves, and don't let fear or anything else consume or defeat you. If you give up now, you'll never know what the future holds for you. Perhaps, if you just hold on, the days will get better, and you will achieve what you came into this world to fulfill. My children, do not suffer; rest as much as you need, live, and choose to smile instead of suffering.

-Loki

(I posted this yesterday in a mythology group. Just in case someone would like to think over it.
This is a theory of mine. I have not read it somewhere. Elements of it may circulate in academic material but I have not found it anywhere as a whole. If you happen to find it somewhere, please give me the source, so I can read it)

Facts:

-         The senna (flyting) is an existing Germanic tradition (antagonistic verbal performance)

-         A great part of the material used as insults in the Lokasenna is obscure

-         It has not been successfully dated

-         The structure of the flyting proper is not narrative but highly modular, with each exchange unit being self contained: you can change the insults, change the gods speaking, their order or omit parts of it and the essence of the poem remains intact. What you need is Loki entering and Thor ending it. Everything is between can be altered.

An attempted refutation:

-         It has been expressed as an idea that it was written during a period that faith to the gods was dwindling. Otherwise the insults would be unacceptable. Would they? Why? For one, an already existing tradition (the senna) can be transferable to the gods, because it is socially acceptable. And then, insulting the gods as entertainment exists in other traditions as well. Aristophanes is especially notorious for repeatedly and caustically insulting the gods in his comedies. The Greeks laugh, then go home. The gods are there the next morning.

My suggestions:

-         The Lokasenna is not a poem but a performance tradition that results in a somewhat different poem each time, according to context.

-         The performing poet would each time alter the stanzas according to the audience and the social context of their time and specific location.

-         The performing poet could easily use the senna as social criticism of actual political or known personas of their social context and use the gods as masks of for socially recognizable targets. That would deliberately protect both the gods from insult (since they are practically substitutes) and the actual persons being alluded (why is everyone looking at me? … that one was about Freyja!). Also the poet… for obvious reasons! Still, the audience would understand and be thoroughly entertained. This proposal is speculative and sadly unfalsifiable and (honestly) drawn from Aristophanes and… well… human tendency to gossip and expose.

-         At some point, one particular version was written down. And this is the only one we’ve got.

-         This could possibly partly solve the problem of the obscurity of the mythic material referenced. Could it be lost myth? Certainly. Could it be social context that we could not possibly be aware of? Yes.

-         Dating is dauntingly pluralistic. If the above is true, what exactly would we try to date? When the tradition started? When was our version written down? When the particular exchanges / insults entered the repertoire? Date that our version got first performed?

So my thought is that the Lokasenna was a performance form, Loki was put in its centre (because of course!) and it eventually crystalized to what we have.

 

Thanks for bearing with me.

So a few months back, I reached out to Pan, to help me with reconnecting to my wild self. I got signs that this particular thing could be aided with, however, any time I tried to actively connect and do tarot readings with Pan, I was met with static. Nothing made sense. Over all it just felt like an unusual wall despite the positive initial yes. I also had a dream that I was trying to connect with Pan, but for some reason the Pan statue was plastic. Fake. I didn’t even connect the dots until now. It’s not Pan. Eventually, I just stopped trying to connect with Pan at all and resumed with my usual spiritual court. It wasn’t until now, nearly 3 months later today that I was like wait a minute… so I asked Loki, if he was stepping in instead.

7 of wands
7 of swords
The world

I felt like he was saying, yes. He was saying he was more than adequate to the task, and answered my call instead. I feel like he wants me to see he is more multidimensional than I was giving him credit for. He knows me very well, and didn’t even try to hold up the facade, and just met me with silence because I’m not very good at picking up on energy signatures in particular. That combined with if he had actively provided connection, I probably would have spent a LOT of unnecessary money on Pan then been very upset. The few things I did get for Pan though, I had the thought Loki would like this too.

Now those items are Loki’s altar. Took me long enough to figure it out 🫠

Hail Loki!

So I’ve told Loki that I have a really bad arachnophobia, so much that I hallucinate and pass out. I’ve been literally praying out loud asking Loki not to send me spiders or show them whatsoever.

The solar eclipse was yesterday meaning I changed my altar, putting away the cards of both Loki and Hel. I practice witchcraft besides being in contact with those two.

I woke up this morning and there was a dea- spider close to my bed as in it could’ve literally fell on me.

I know for sure it was a “love the solar eclipse but it’s over now, here’s a spider,” mockery.

Not that I’m angry, I was more freaked out.
Any ideas what his message can be besides a mockery?

Also anyone else got this type of experience, not specifically with spiders. But him telling to get in contact with him in a type of way?

Edit: I’ve been praying since I think June and I never saw a spider, only once on vacation in another country, so I didn’t see that as Loki saying hi.

— J

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Someone asked about getting a better connection with Fenrir in the Norse Paganism sub and claimed fenrir is evil and burns the world, kills humanity and is locked away to protect humanity. I corrected this as in the eddas it is very clear that Fenrir is not the one who sets fire to the world, is never called a threat to humanity, and was locked away because of the prophecy of him swallowing Odin. This led to me being told I don't know the eddas and that I need an introduction to Norse mythology and that the gods being not completely good or evil is wrong and not how the old Norse viewed the gods. This spiraled with me constantly correcting the person as they were only going off the prose edda. I told them this is a bad methodology to learn the old stories and properly understand the material as it was written by snori and is a retelling of the source material and has exaggerated text. That you always cross reference with the primary source in this case with the poetic edda.

My question is am I missing something? How do you get through to people who ignore all the grey in the eddas and proclaim the gods are shining good and Loki is the devil. Are my corrections incorrect?

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