r/nevergrewup

Hey guys. It's your friendly neigborhood autistic dude. Just wanted to say thank you for your support the last couple of weeks with the "friend" group. I always appreciate people who have my back. There's something that I want to get off my chest. It may be stupid but I honestly don't care. I'm 21 years old, I don't really have much friends when I was younger let alone people who actually accept me. My most of my teen years were taken by the Covid-19 pandemic and depression, and because of it, I want to confess with something. The truth is as a college student, I haven't really acted much of an adult and that's because I'm not really ready for it yet. I still live with my parents, I don't have a job, I never dated before (let alone a first kiss), I'm not married (people MY age are starting to get married lol), all I do is go to school, do homework, watch movies, play games, and collect toys. This is something that I wanted to take my time and unfortunately, not a lot of people accept it. By any means, I'm not trying to sound TOO desperate even though it might look like it but if you look at a different perspective, it GENUINELY sucks that not many people are OK with it. I get that at some point I will have to mature, but I want to take my time while enjoy my years before I actually mature. And even THEN, what's wrong with being both a kid and an adult? lol. Thanks for hearing and listening to me :)

Overview: I explained a theory months ago that shifting the natural dietary mineral balance for a pair of minerals in reverse could reverse aging and puberty. Now I believe that theory is very scientifically accurate, but of course there have been minimal studies done on factors that can explain the shrinking of the body because scientists do not like to do meaningful experiments without something profitable behind the method, and they also struggle with studies that would capture a wide range of qualities involving multiple nutrients. Lastly, they really do not want transgender people to have adequate treatment because it would cost a lot less. One part of my method is something that would allow male to female transition much more easily yet nobody knows about it even though it is a major part of the difference between male and female.

Remember that mineral balance is a very intricate topic and you should be cautious about dealing with these minerals. For example, a high level of selenium can deplete iodine and cause a serious energy deficit among other things, but because iodine is a growth promoter, we rather not focus on that here.

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Theory: Two minerals are present in virtually every food - zinc and copper. It seems that every food except one has higher zinc than copper, and usually more than double. The only exception is the spice called Mace, but that's just a fun fact..... The only way to disrupt the dominance of zinc is to use supplementation, or have copper in your water that does not get filtered out. Copper cookware is common in India where they have higher copper intake and incidences of copper toxicity with children primarily.

Zinc deficiency is known to cause dwarfism that is treatable when zinc is supplemented. This is a well reported fact and people with this dwarfism look like children. Copper and zinc bind together and zinc can nullify and eliminate copper, preventing it from fully affecting the body. However, remember that copper is a mineral that the body stores up while zinc gets depleted every day It typically takes at least three days for copper to be eliminated by the body.

In my thorough studying of nutrition, I found copper especially capable of shrinking the body. Considering it is basically an opposing force to zinc, it seems like this balance is central to organisms maturing. However, copper is the most toxic essential mineral so it can't be taken alone.

At first, I thought the perfect detox and balancer for copper was molybdenum. Molybdenum removes copper, zinc and sulfides primarily and is faster acting than normal copper elimination, but zinc still ends up dominating in this detoxification. Molybdenum is important and I believe it is used to produce puberty blockers, but I have come to find (and remember because I actually used it first) that Selenium is the best mineral to compliment copper and keep it safe. Not only is it strongly anticancer and great for liver and metabolic health, but it actually is more powerful for decreasing body stature than copper. It both manages copper and synergizes with it. In fact, it also works well with zinc for improved health. (You still need to make sure you are getting enough zinc because it depletes every day, as previously mentioned and it is one of the most healing minerals, but you want to make it less dominant.)

The reason I brought up zinc deficiency is that all of these minerals use up or deplete zinc. In normal cases of zinc deficiency, phytates are the cause. This issue happens because people are consuming high amounts of grains and beans without meat or they are eating soil instead of food because they are so impoverished. Important to note that phosphorous would also be high in these populations, and zinc actually works closely with phosphorous to increase body growth among other things.

Because zinc is being depleted by copper, selenium and possibly molybdenum instead, we can expect more of a leaning toward shrinking instead of growing. Selenium and copper use zinc for homeostasis rather than growth. And meanwhile selenium and copper are decreasing stature. Phosphorus naturally shows up in diets just as much as copper and zinc, but as long as the growth reversal effects are there and zinc is not high, phosphorus levels are not something to worry much about.

Lastly, there is the phenomenon of cuproptosis. It is typically associated with disease states, but it is also acknowledged that it can be controlled by minerals that fight copper toxicity, the main ones being zinc, selenium, molybdenum and to some extent, iron. Cuproptosis is actually a quite modern discovery. In certain events, the body will gather high amounts of copper, but high enough supplementation of copper also produces this state. In this process, skeletal muscle is consumed by the body and bones are to some extent as well, but less studies have focused on the link to cuproptosis. The decrease in bone mass is a very rare trait usually only associated with osteoporosis, which is not what we want because it can lead to bone fractures and joint problems. Copper is the only mineral that will cause bone resorption, but also treat osteoperosis. Copper is actually one of the most valuable treatments for osteoperosis because it mineralizes bones so well.

And more about selenium... It is a powerful antioxidant, it detoxifies thyroid imbalances from iodine and can generate high amounts of energy in completing thyroid hormone. It accelerates the metabolism without the potential for increasing stature growth. It is the most antinflammatory mineral and also treats "metabolic syndrome", which is the range of diseases associated with obesity. It is a key ingredient to making whole grains, seeds and nuts healthy and is even present in bleached flours, but the highest sources in nature are brazil nuts and paradise nuts, which both have selenium levels so high that they can work like a supplement pill. And most importantly, it is also the most anticancerous nutrient.

Combined with all of this evidence and my experience of very distinctly shrinking when using selenium and copper and little else, I theorize that a diet focused around selenium and copper can shrink the body in a healthy way.

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Additional Considerations:

I believe that estrogen and maybe progesterone are important to making the body younger. Copper is especially synergistic with estrogen , but so is zinc. Zinc will give you the more growth related side while copper would bring you closer to your innate state as high doses of estrogen have also been used to prevent girls from growing taller before and during puberty, and humans are initially female before differentiation. However, I might recommend instead to use weaker estrogens as well as the unique phytoestrogen found primarily in clover. It is quite symbolic that the clover could be the key to reverse aging as it was once mockingly used in the clovergender identity which was essentially transage/chronisian, but with the implication that it was a purely mental identity that would be used for "predators" to gain access to children. I really think that we should reclaim the clover as a fountain of youth and purity. However, clover is about as difficult to master as copper so I theorize weaker estrogens are probably a safer idea for de-aging.

For vitamins, vitamin A (preferably beta carotene, which is safest) and vitamin E seem most essential. There might be B vitamins to focus on or avoid, but I have not tested or researched much on those. Multiple B vitamins affect hormone homeostasis, but minerals are most of the core of this transformation. Vitamin A seems really important for increasing the amount of change that happens and E prevents toxicity especially for copper and estrogen, and seems to improve the metabolism of phytoestrogens.

Obviously, take my information as advice at your own risk. And I'm still not satisfied with my changes yet so no photo evidence for now.

This only directed towards other NGU who don't have a caregiver or any parental figures.

How do you control your compulsions?

I have ADHD and a horrible caffeine addiction that will get swapped for a sweets addiction if I try to deal with it. Today I had no coffee (my greatest weakness) and I rummaged the fridge for cookie dough. I then was given sweets later in the day and I did give some of them away, but even as I tried to mentally fight my urge, I ripped open a bag of cookies. I didn't finish them all (thankfully) but it doesn't matter. I still had too much sugar in one day. I'm writing this because I know if I had a mom or dad, I wouldn't be able to endulge so much. My mom outright forbid me from having coffee when I was a chrono-kid. I still feel like a chrono-kid though and I'm a kid who's trusted to keep sweets and have coffee like a grown-up.

This is safe space of belonging for all those whose lives hasn't followed the specific scripts society creates yet never gave up but continue to navigate life through all the unexpected twist and turns life brings without guilt shame or judgement. Welcome to the club!!!

I know this is silly, but can someone reassure me that its okay to post here still? Or tell me to get lost, that would be okay too :(

Context: I’m talking to parents of these chrono-kids I’m watching play, and I’m close in age to one of the parents. Probably both of them, they’re younger parents

And all I’m thinking is how weird it is that I’m seen as one of the “older people”. I see my peers the same way I saw parents when I was far younger; authority figures, distant, etc.

I know how to play the part and be socially acceptable, but I don’t think I’ll ever be completely alright with that. The fact that everyone says I look way younger (closer to a 15 range) than I am just makes me wish I WAS back to that age. Everything around me feels the same as back then anyways.

I'm a 18 girl, but I feel like I'm carrying the weight of someone who probably grew up way too fast. Life forced me to take a sharp turn unfortunately, I had to deal with priorities and just drop all the crap. That's why today I have zero tolerance for people my own age. I'm so over the games, the back-and-forth, chronic indecision, and all those maybes that just drain your energy. When it comes to relationships or anything romantic, the absolute most I'm looking for is a casual one-night fling. Other than that, I'm tapped out. Whenever I see people acting like... my age, I just look away, it feels like babysitting, and I'm exhausted by it. I'm not really interested in having close friends or a relationship beyond making casual small talk every now and then. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people who adore me, and I like them too, but I just don't care. I don't have the bandwidth.

A few months ago, I switched to homeschooling, and the thought of jumping back into traditional school drama, all the fakeness, petty rivalry, gossip, and empty chatter, is just unbearable to me. I don't feel lonely at all. Honestly, it's the exact opposite. I felt terribly alone when I was surrounded by people, I felt like I was living behind glass, like I was never really myself.

I just want to get my projects off the ground, put my skills to work, protect my family's health, and cherish my beautiful cat. I already know who I want to build my future with, and that's enough for me.

Yet, paradoxically, I'm not some reclusive loner. I'm super charismatic, bubbly, sociable, and outgoing. People like me, I make friends easily, and I know how the world works. But I'm just so disillusioned. I refuse to waste my time on things with zero substance. Does it just sound like teenage angst? Yet I feel like I already lived through all those phases, the rebellious phase, the alternative phase and blablabla, years ago.

I'm not looking for answers or validation. I'm not really looking for anything. I was just in my head about it and wanted to put it somewhere. At least here, nobody knows me. It doesn't really sound like the kind of person I usually am, and yet.

I've been having such a hard time I've ever seen lately. It doesn't help that it's been the hottest summer on record and driest(we literally haven't had rain for 50 days now) Witch is definitely not helping at all but I can't get stuff done. I keep having to put food delivery on my credit card cause there's days where I just can't be bothered to figure out what to eat what to cook et cetera I feel like I have so much pressure about everything and I'm so scared I'm worried about disappointing the people I love that it's severely affecting my mental health

I just wanna be taken care of. I was hospitalised last November for some GI issues and I enjoyed it and earlier I was thinking about how I can get myself back there like how can I hurt myself and make it look like an accident but make sure it's something that'll keep me in there for a while(I'm not planning anything it's just passing urges scared if I go to a psych ward I'll lose my medical cannabis, which is the only thing keeping me out of there right now but unless I'm heavily buzzed, I'm pretty much miserable and I don't know what to do. It's like I can't get a break. It's like I can't be taken care of like I need to and it's just getting to be too much.

I also had to flee my country and I didn't really get to take any of my toys. I got a few stuff over and I'm gonna try to get a few more when Family visits me next time but I've been dealing a lot with losing all my toys and everything and I don't have a ton of money to go out and replace them nor do I have the space I was thinking of ordering a little something but I'm not sure

In the next couple days, I'm gonna take a few days just to take care of my self and just play and try not to do adult but it's like I don't know how I'm supposed to survive bodily I'm only 30 a minute we've been like thinking about having another 10 years. I don't know how I'm gonna survive another 40 like we lost my ability to work. I'm constantly stressing about money. It's just I just wanna wake up 9-year-old cis girl I'm just done and broken

I know this is something thats completely unattainable, but that doesn't stop a dude from hoping.

I just wish i could be taken care of like i was when i was a cronokid. Just without all the bad stuff. I want somebody to treat me with help and kindness, and to coddle me and be patient with me. I want to be helped with things I find hard, to check in on me every day. To call me nice nicknames and to love me. I want it to happen without the price of being a disappointment.

I feel like i've lost my ability to have actual friends because thats the only way i really connect with people. I feel like i don't really get much emotional value out of my friendships, and even though I put in effort i don't do enough for my friends.

I know i can't really expect anybody to come along and give me care. I just feel so alone.

I'm Chrono 21, but, I feel like I'm internally 7-10 (and sometimes younger, but idk if that's age regression or just part of who I am). Basically, just forever stuck at the age my trauma began. I have always been childish in some ways. Like being a furry, enjoying cartoons, sleeping with stuffed animals, and my bag is a stuffed animal pencil-dog. So,, I'm definitely not your typical "21 year old". But... I feel like I can only get away with doing those things, because i can explain them away. Like... I'm a furry because I love the art and creativity, I can watch cartoons since animation is for all ages & I'm autistic and enjoy watching things that are familiar, my stuffed animals help my chronic pain, and my bag is part of my aesthetic.

But, when it comes to things I can't actually explain, I feel... Terrified. Like, wanting a caregiver, wanting to play with toys, wanting to use baby talk, wanting to give my stuffies actual names (heck, even just calling them stuffies feels scary), or even more obvious things like wanting to use bottles/sippy cups, play kids games, watch kids shows meant for a younger age, playing at parks, etc... it just scares me.

Im not even that scared of people judging me since most of it I would be doing in private anyway. But, it's more like... I feel like I'm not supposed to be this way? Like... I'm supposed to be this grown adult. So, why do I feel like I'm not? Why does calling myself an adult feel so weird? I feel so gross and annoyed with myself for feeling this way. So, every time I try to indulge in something childish, I end up feeling angry, and sad and paralyzed with fear.

I also just generally have a really hard time "suspending my disbelief" in a way. Like... Every Time I have tried to watch bluey, or a show from my childhood, I get really frustrated because I can't let myself enjoy it, even though I really want to enjoy it and feel so drawn to it. I will get caught up on dumb details that don't actually matter (because kids shows/games don't tend to aim for accuracy, and isn't always the highest quality) and will get annoyed by the smallest things. And, Everytime I try to engage with it, I just feel icky and like I shouldn't be doing this, and I start to hate myself for not being the adult I'm "supposed" to be.

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TW// Talk of food, Eating Disorders, and Stomach/Physical Health Issues

So like the title suggests I need help finding yummy safe foods. I honestly have a long list of foods that don't agree with me and it's gotten to the point where essentially everything I eat doesn't agree with my stomach. I experience a variety of symptoms every time I eat literally anything.

Including:

Upset tummy

Nausea

Intense cramps

Intense bloating (I look like I'm pregnant it's so intense)

A heavy feeling in my stomach (like I ate a bowling ball)

Gassiness

I've developed an eating disorder because I'm extremely unhappy with how my body is and I honestly feel so, so much better when I don't eat. But I know it's not safe and not practical. I can't afford to see a GI Doctor right now and the one person who can take me since I don't drive (my Parental) keeps telling me to take vitamins and it'll help. (It absolutely will not. I know something is really wrong with my stomach.)

I am in desperate need of finding safe foods to eat that won't make me immediately regret it. But with the foods that don't sit right it seems like I literally can only have a liquid diet at this point until I talk to a doctor. I have no clue what could be going on and I'm not gonna keep Googling because I don't want to end up misinformed and start freaking out.

Every time I do eat on top of physically feeling awful I very quickly lose energy. Most of the time I take a nap after eating like my body needs more energy to digest than stay awake. It's interesting because when I was younger I had to stay upright for about 30 minutes after eating otherwise my stomach would cramp and I'd feel awful. But nowadays I lay down right after eating and take a nap.

Here's the list of foods I can't eat without my stomach essentially flaring up:

Carby foods

Sugary foods (and drinks)

Caffeine (any amount)

High protein (like meat)

Highly processed foods (Fast Food)

Breaded foods (Dino nuggets, popcorn chicken etc.)

Dairy products (highly suspect I'm lactose intolerant)

Fruit (I think it's the natural sugar honestly)

Vegetables (tend to make me bloated and/or nauseas)

When I have more money and can go to the store I'm gonna try out eating those little toddler squeeze pouches to see if that is a good idea. I know they're lower sugar since chrono-kids don't need lots of sugar. I know it's not sufficient for a bio 21year old, but I'm running out of options at this point.

Any and all advice is greatly appreciated! I'm really at a loss of what to do and I'm so tired of eating taking away all my energy instead of recharging me...

What is your favorite candies for helping you feel better? Mine are cotton candy and banana taffy. Mmmmm!