Hive members die every time she causes an outburst in the collective. Why doesn't Carol use that even as a threat to free people, or cause interference to the Hives plan?
Don't want to make this a long post but this episode, specifically Manousos' journey, is some of the best television I've ever watched.
You can tell there is SO much subtext in the English phrases he is practicing, even if we're unaware of what it means just yet -- "The girl saves the mouse from the trap." "The yellow dog chases the gray cat." "I wish to save the world." Not I want to save the world, but I wish. It's just foreshadowing at its best. And the way that part is shot, you can almost feel the plastic cassette in his hand.
The scenery, of course is amazing. For 6 minutes, every single shot is captivating. I could not look away.
The motion design of the map and the marker.
And the indescribably beautiful music of Hermanos Gutierrez overtop of everything.
I haven't been that pulled into an episode of television in a long time. Maybe Episode 8 of Twin Peaks: The Return or ironically Episode 8 of season two of Westworld. Incredible filmmaking. I know others have commented the same on here, but those few minutes of his journey northward were so amazing that I just had to say something about it lol.
i just rewatched the show after not watching for a while and I am falling in love again. It was so amazing to watch it again after so long. I genuinely have no clue how season 2 could start (and we're a loooong way away from it sadly) but now I can't stop thinking about it. Anyone have any thoughts or headcanons on how it begins?
I wonder how much of a timeskip we will have and if it'll begin with some giant cliffhanger style scene that comes from the end of the season like them coming to covert Carol or Carol waking up after the Hive trying and us left wondering if it worked or not?
Hey guys is there any information on updates about Season 2, I'm itching for it like a fiend. I genuinely believe this show is one of the best television I've seen in quite some time
They send virus to the dominant beings, make them docile and unable to fight back then invade. Easy Pickens.
I know the show is slated for four seasons. But I’m rewatching and in episode 1, the line is used “She will be signing the fourth book in her trilogy” after Carol refers to it as the best one. Is Carol going to die and be reborn like she alludes Roban falls beneath the sea? Or Zosia?
So I may be late to the show and this may have been addressed but the hive is actively manipulating Carol’s stem cells to convert her to the hive mind? This is acknowledged in Season 1 Episode 9 with the conversation at about minute 49. This appears to be the catalyst for Carol returning to Manusos and agreeing to work on disconnecting individuals from the hive mind. I thought the free individuals could stay free and not be forced to join the hive against their will, but now it appears there is a loophole???
It's clear that the hivemind doesn't behave like the average person (way too friendly and unselfish), or have the average person's value system (most people are fine with killing animals and plants in order to eat).
I had been assuming that the aliens imposed certain strict values on the hivemind like the no killing rule. Or maybe all of the humans are essentially braindead, just puppets of an alien who is remotely controlling them and has access to their memories.
But if it is just humanity, why won't they kill? Why do they love Carol's writing so much? Why are they so friendly? It doesn't seem to be a democracy in the plurb.
I think it's possible that whoever is the happiest, friendliest, and most peaceful and positive-sounding has control. If there's any level of individuality left in people, their opinions like "maybe we should farm food to stay alive" are being ignored. Only the happiest and most peaceful opinions get counted, no matter how much harm it causes.
The hivemind was created by a genetic code that's essentially like a computer program, and that program could come with certain rules that override the default behavior.
It reminds me of the Slylandro probes in Star Control 2, if anyone remembers that game. The friendly Slylandro aliens sent robotic probes out to explore the galaxy and make friends with other species. The probes could also collect metal and create duplicates of itself, and the Slylandro set that as a high priority so that they could have lots of probes and explore the galaxy much faster that way.
The result was that the probes would meet you (the player), say "we come in peace" and initiate a polite discussion, and then attempt to destroy your ship so they can use the metal to make more probes.
I wonder if a friendly alien wanted to make the human hivemind as happy and successful as possible, and had a disastrous programming error, not realizing that this could result in the hivemind refusing to feed itself.
In a video interview, Jeff Hiller discusses if He Would Rather Live In the World of 'Widow's Bay' or 'Pluribus'? + Talks about Dale's original fate.
What do you think would happen if one of the immune were a psychopath like Tuco Salamanca from the BB Universe? Suppose that instead of just cosplaying James Bond, riding in Air Force 1 and boffing a lot of hot chicks, Diabetes was executing Plurbs on the slightest of whims and staging gladiatorial combats and massacres for his entertainment. Would the Others just go with it to keep him happy or would they try to find some way to stop him without violating their guidelines? Like maybe convincing other Immunes to kill him?
Say Carol decided fuck it, I'm going all in, and asked for heroin and meth. Would the plurbs then seek out the purest Methamphetamines they could find?
Could Carol talk the Plurbs into using with her?
Yesterday I went to Carol's neighborhood in Albuquerque to take a few photos. You have to park on the road about 1/2 mile from the set because there is a Road Closed sign and I'm not sure if driving beyond that would be considered trespassing. So we walked along the side of the gravel road to get a look from the perimeter fence. There were a couple SUVs there, including one that appeared to be from a security company. There was someone inside the car and it was running (to keep it cool on this 94-degree day), but they didn't mess with us as long as we stayed outside of the fence. I took a few photos but the sun was already descending to the west, so the photos don't show a lot of detail. All the windows on the homes are boarded up, and I expect they will begin opening them up as it gets closer to the October filming dates. Here's my pics:
In the 18th Dorian Tv awards organised by GALECA (The Gay and Lesbian Entertainment Critics Association), Pluribus gets 2 wins which are :
Best TV performance in a drama - Rhea Seehorn
Most visually striking show (It tied with Alien : Earth)
Just finished Pluribus, season 1 and I can't help but notice Vince Gilligan does something with character development/arc that I just don't see elsewhere, at least not in the same way. I'm probably late to the party on this, and maybe it's been thoroughly discussed already, but it just hit me, so here goes.
I think most people when they watch media look for themselves in the story. Who do I side with? Whose decisions do I agree with? Who am I rooting for? His stuff just messes with that whole dynamic. Breaking Bad took a character I was completely sympathetic too, made me side with him long after I should have, and ultimately became kind of irredeemable and needed to die. Better Call Saul took a character that was fun, but insubstantial and meaningless, and ultimately created a character I really had empathy for and cared about.
When I first started Pluribus, I kept thinking "Am I supposed to be rooting for her? She's got borderline personality disorder, she's an emotional toddler. Christ, make the best of it". By the end of the season I'm like, "Yeah, she's right. We gotta' burn it down".
It's like Gilligan makes the plot secondary, and the character arc primary. It's very interesting stuff.
Got to catch the cast at the Televerse panel in Los Angeles. Such an amazing experience!
My theory is that the reason the infected go into convulsions is because anger disrupts their ability to communicate.
They stay in constant communication via sending out radio signals on the frequency that Manousos discovered. That's their telepathic, or telempathic, connection with each other.
Emotions like anger or hate that trigger a "fight or flight" type of response somehow disrupt their brains' ability to send/receive the radio signal. The virus sends a panic response to the body when it registers that the radio signal is disrupted from any individual brain. Because all of infected are connected all of them get the same panic response and go into convulsions.
I think that if you were to put an infected person into a Faraday cage, the same convulsions would happen.
Disrupting their communication for a long enough time might be the key to freeing people from the hive-mind.