Heavy Rain &/or Thunderstorms Possible Thursday Afternoon/Evening

Heavy Rain &/or Thunderstorms Possible Thursday Afternoon/Evening

It's "Bring An Umbrella To Work Day" tomorrow. People are going to look at you funny on the Subway during the morning commute, but you'll have the last laugh on the ride home when they're drenched and they're looking at you with jealous eyes.

Short-term computer modeling provides high confidence for a fast-moving line to bring heavy rainfall, and possibly some elevated thunder and lightning to our region Thursday evening. Flash flooding will be the main concern while the severe threat appears fairly minimal.

NOAA's Weather Prediction Center's Day 2 Excessive Rainfall Outlook indicates the probability of flash flooding occurring somewhere in NYC is at least 15%.

A short event duration should mitigate high rainfall intensity. Strong surface/low-level frontogenesis and PWATs over 2" could support rainfall rates around 1.5-2" per hour in the heaviest downpours. According, to the official forecast, most of NYC will probably receive between 0.5-1.0" of rain, but up to 3" could be possible in isolated spots. Model QPFs are significantly higher than the official forecast. A Flood Watch may be issued.

Our Local NWS Office (OKX)'s latest Quantitative Precipitation Forecast for Thursday.

A comparison of model Quantitative Precipitation Forecasts (18z HRRR, 18z NAM, 18z RRFS).

As far as timing, rain will be possible anywhere between 2pm and midnight, with the highest likelihood of heavy rain and flash flooding occurring between 5-9pm. Yeah, right in the middle of the evening commute and dinner hour. Not ideal.

18z

Now there is one "X Factor," and it's while I used the word "Possible" in the post title instead of "Likely" or even "Probable."

This entire set-up is going to come down to mesoscale factors that cannot be modeled accurately until maybe a couple of hours out, so the precise location of storms is hard to pinpoint right now, and there remains a possibility that this is a total bust with little more than a modest rain shower.

Every action has a reaction, and everything that goes up must come down. Low pressure induces lift. It also causes the atmosphere to stretch. This results in areas of high pressure on either side (north or south) of the mesoscale low. High pressure results in subsidence and sinking air.

The strongest thunderstorms are forecast to occur well to our south, and depending on how that develops, it could actually result in subsidence and sinking air over/near NYC, which would cause approaching storms and rainfall to weaken if not die out.

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u/BostonSucksatHockey — 15 hours ago

Model Guidance Comparison (18z Wednesday August 19, 2026) - A look at the latest runs of several short-term, convective-allowing models (HRRR, NAM, RRFS) to estimate likelihood, timing and intensity of rain &/or thunderstorms Thursday afternoon-evening.

u/BostonSucksatHockey — 17 hours ago

NWS (SPC/WPC) [12:00 PM Wednesday August 19, 2026] - Day 2 Convective & Excessive Rainfall Outlooks + Quantitative Precipitation Forecasts: tomorrow's thunderstorm/severe & flash flooding potential

u/BostonSucksatHockey — 21 hours ago

Lala Advisory 29 (500 AM HST August 19, 2026): No changes to intensity (125 mph / 953 mb). Lala has likely reached peak strength & will begin to weaken as it tracks NW/N over cooler waters & interacts with an upper level trough. Warnings continue for Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument.

u/BostonSucksatHockey — 1 day ago

Saudel (17W) Advisory 5 (12z August 19, 2026): 17W has been to a Tropical Storm but remains disorganized. Forecast to reach Typhoon status this weekend as it approaches the Northern Marianas, then Violent Typhoon status by early next week. Moving slowly northward, but expected to pick up pace.

u/BostonSucksatHockey — 1 day ago

NWS (KOKX) - What to Expect Wednesday, August 19, 2026 (today's official local forecast)

Wednesday will be a mostly sunny day after a few early morning clouds along the coast.

High temperatures will reach the mid to high 80s, with winds remaining mostly calm besides SW winds along the coast in the afternoon up to 10 mph.

https://www.weather.gov/okx/weatherstory

u/BostonSucksatHockey — 1 day ago

The last few runs of the GFS and AI-assisted GFS models have been hinting at tropical development in the Atlantic MDR over the next ~5 days. The GFS stands alone - no other global/synoptic model solutions show any meaningful activity.

Some additional information - in case you're new to this sub (or just modeling in general)...

The Global Forecasting System (operated under the NOAA/NWS umbrella, i.e., "GFS" or the "American Model") is one of several global (i.e., synoptic) scale models used to aid official forecasts. Other models include the European model ("ECMWF"), the Canadian Model ("GEM" or "CMC"), and German Model ("ICON"), etc.

These are examples of synoptic scale models, which focus on large-scale atmospheric patterns. To put it simply, computers take the latest observational data and run them through complex algorithms that mock the laws of physics to determine plausible outcomes.

There also AI-based and AI-assisted models, which compare the latest observations with past observations over many years, to identify meteorological trends. For example, Google has developed its own AI-based line of models (e.g., "WeatherNext"). AI-assisted models use a blend of physics and historical trends.

The GFS model is particularly quirky and known to enter feedback loops in the long-term, resulting in a strong bias to produce monster low pressure systems. You'll see this in long-term modeling in the tropics during summer and also in the mid-latitudes during winter. It's one of the reasons this sub has strict posting requirements when it comes to posting modeling beyond 120 hours (5 days).

So why am I posting this?

  • First, even a broken clock is right once in awhile. Last year, the GFS model was the first synoptic model to identify the disturbance that would become Hurricane Melissa.
  • The 06z runs are not "one-offs." This is now a trend with several recent runs of GFS-based models producing at least a tropical depression in the MDR.
  • The open question of the Madden-Julian Oscillation ("MJO"). This is a global scale weather pattern that can be highly influential on tropical development around the world.
    • When the MJO is in Phases 7, 8 and 1, conditions in the Atlantic become more favorable for tropical development. If the MJO is in any other phase, or is weak/neutral, then conditions will likely remain unfavorable.
    • GFS and ECMWF modeling of the MJO over the next 15 days are very different right now. (See Slide 9). The GFS has been trending toward an active MJO in Phase 7, albeit not until September.... but that could be linked to how its modeling in the Atlantic.
    • Notably, the latest GFS ensemble modeling of the MJO looks more like the ECWMF and other models, taking the MJO into a weak or neutral phase.
u/BostonSucksatHockey — 2 days ago

[TWO 5:00 AM PDT August 18, 2026] More development expected in EPAC/CPAC... 🍒 (0/80%) A tropical depression is expected to form this weekend several hundred miles south of Mexico... 🍋🍊(20/60%) Further west, a wave could organize into a depression by the weekend.

 ZCZC MIATWOEP ALL
 TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

 Tropical Weather Outlook
 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
 500 AM PDT Tue Aug 18 2026

 For the eastern and central North Pacific east of 180 longitude:

 Active Systems:
 The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Hurricane
 Lala, located a couple hundred miles south-southwest of French
 Frigate Shoals, Hawaii.

 1. South of Mexico:
 An area of low pressure is forecast to form several hundred miles 
 south of the coast of southern Mexico around the end of the week. 
 Gradual development of this system is likely thereafter, and a 
 tropical depression is expected to form this weekend while the 
 system moves west-northwestward, remaining well offshore of Mexico.
  * Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
  * Formation chance through 7 days...high...80 percent.

 2. Western Portion of the East Pacific:
 A tropical wave located well to the west-southwest of the southern 
 tip of the Baja California Peninsula is producing disorganized 
 showers and thunderstorms. Environmental conditions appear conducive 
 for gradual development of this system, and a tropical depression 
 could form towards the end of the week or over the weekend while the 
 system moves generally westward across the western portion of the 
 east Pacific and into the central Pacific.
  * Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
  * Formation chance through 7 days...medium...60 percent.


Forecaster Kelly/Pierce
u/BostonSucksatHockey — 2 days ago

Lala Advisory 24 (1100 PM HST August 17, 2026): Lala has restrengthened into a hurricane with max winds near 80 mph and minimum central pressure of 985 mb. Additional intensification expected. Still moving due west. Still expected to turn north this week.

u/BostonSucksatHockey — 2 days ago

Lala Advisory 22 (1100 AM HST August 16, 2026): Lala is a compact tropical storm within a dry mid-level environment + experiencing moderate westerly shear. Max winds now 65 mph. Moving west, but expected to turn north towards the Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument later this week.

u/BostonSucksatHockey — 3 days ago

Lala Advisory 20 (1100 PM HST August 16, 2026): Hawai'i begins the recovery process as Tropical Storm Lala exits stage left. Max winds down to 60 mph. Expected to re-intensify back into a hurricane as it curves north toward uninhabited CPAC islands and atolls.

u/BostonSucksatHockey — 3 days ago

Lala Advisory 18 (1100 AM HST August 16, 2026): Lala's weakening trend continues as the tropical storm pushes west at 16 mph. Max winds 65mph. Min pressure up 994 mb. A large band of convection is currently bringing heavy rain to Kaua'i & Ni'ihau.

u/BostonSucksatHockey — 4 days ago

LIVE RADAR [KDIX/KOKX/TEWR/TJFK] (Sunday August 16, 2026, 2:25 PM EDT) - Scattered rain showers are beginning to enter the area ahead of a warm front. Don't be surprised if you experience a drizzle to light shower. Heavy rain is unlikely until later tonight.

u/BostonSucksatHockey — 4 days ago

Lala Advisory 17 (500 AM HST August 16, 2026): Lala has diminished deep convection + partially exposed circulation following land interaction + dry air intrusions, but remains a high-end TS with 70 mph winds. Flash Flood Warning for island of Oahu, where heaviest rains are now approaching.

u/BostonSucksatHockey — 4 days ago

Model Guidance Comparison (12z Sunday August 16) - A look at the latest runs of several short-term, convective-allowing models (HRRR, NAM, RRFS, FV3) to estimate timing and intensity of rainfall this afternoon/evening and overnight into Monday [models all set to 11am Sun to 11am Mon]

The HREF ensemble solution suggests the bulk of rain falling between 8pm tonight and 8am Monday, but some individual deterministic model solutions suggest scattered showers could begin as early as 3 or 4pm and linger through mid-day or even afternoon on Monday.

u/BostonSucksatHockey — 4 days ago

Lala Advisory 16 (1100 PM HST August 15, 2026): Lala's satellite presentation has degraded since reaching peak intensity while passing near South Point (Big Island). Still a hurricane for now (75 mph/988 mb) but expected to weaken on Sunday. Heavy rain & damaging winds continue across Hawai'i.

u/BostonSucksatHockey — 4 days ago

A little before 4:00 PM HST, Hurricane Lala made its closest pass to the Big Island with the center 25-35 miles south of South Point & the eye wall as close as 10-15 miles off shore. Peak rainfall measurements over the last 12 hrs are between 12-13 inches across windward Maui & the Big Island.

Hurricane Lala Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS Central Pacific Hurricane Center Honolulu HI   CP012026
Issued by NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
400 PM HST Sat Aug 15 2026
 
...HEAVY RAIN CONTINUES TO SPREAD ACROSS THE EASTERN MAIN HAWAIIAN ISLANDS... 

...400 PM HST (0200 UTC) POSITION UPDATE...

Radar data indicate that the eyewall of Lala is nearing South Point,  Hawaii.

An observation near South Point around 550 feet elevation recently reported 
a sustained wind of 51 mph (82 km/h) and a gust of 71 mph (114 km/h). 

An observation site at South Point Park also reported a sustained wind of 
49 mph (79 km/h) and a gust of 73 mph (117 km/h).

Peak rainfall measurements over the last 12 hours are between 12 to 13 
inches across windward Maui and the Big Island.   

SUMMARY OF 400 PM HST...0200 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...18.6N 155.9W
ABOUT 35 MI...55 KM S OF SOUTH POINT HAWAII
ABOUT 200 MI...320 KM SE OF HONOLULU HAWAII
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...75 MPH...120 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 320 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...988 MB...29.18 INCHES
 
$$
Forecaster Zelinsky/Evans
u/BostonSucksatHockey — 5 days ago