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For those who don’t know, Ghamidi uses verse 47:4 in the holy Quran as explicit evidence that the Quran abolished any way of obtaining new slaves and concubines, such as prisoners of war.

A thing that comes to mind though, is that if one accept his interpretation which does make sense, we would have to admit that slavery is terrible which is why the Quran ended it.

If this is the case, why was concubinage and slavery allowed (even in a regulated form) by god in the first place?

To clarify I obey all laws for Islam because they are clearly fair and stand for justice and morality.

However, I have been pondering on this for a while, if for example a law in Islam existed that allowed something not moral (like killing or enslaving an innocent person) would I be considered a hypocrite if I said that I wouldn’t continue practicing Islam if such a law existed and was true?

Salam Alakium,

here are the Hadiths:

Sahih al-Bukhari 5736:Narrated Abu Sa\\\`id Al-Khudri: Some of the companions of the Prophet ﷺ came across an Arab tribe... the chief of that tribe was bitten by a snake (or stung by a scorpion)... One of the Prophet's companions started reciting Surah al-Fatiha and blowing wind at the snake-bite. The patient got cured... When they asked the Prophet ﷺ about it, he smiled and said, "How do you know that Surah al-Fatiha is a Ruqyah?"

Sahih al-Bukhari 5741: Narrated Al-Aswad: I asked \\\`Aisha about treating poisonous stings (a snake-bite or a scorpion sting) with a Ruqyah. She said, "The Prophet allowed the treatment of poisonous stings with Ruqyah."

I have a question and a doubt related to ruqya hadiths. a Hadith where a companion used ruqya to cure a tribe leader from a snake bite (the tribe leader was cured instantly). In another Hadith, the prophet allowed the use of Ruqya to treat fever, snake bites and scorpion stings (basically poison).

My apologies if this seems silly, but couldn’t we prove Islam by making someone stung by a snake, then using ruqya to cure him instantly or cure him? Especially if the snake had a very deadly poison like a black mamba. We know this isn’t the case, so what did the prophet PBUH mean in Hadiths where he encouraged the use of ruqya for poison ?

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاتة،

‏‎المعلومات الأساسية؛

رجل اعزب من عائلة و قبيلة معروفة، عمري ٢٤ ساكن بالدمام وناوي استقر فيها

سني و اعتبر نفسي متوسط دينياً، لكن ملتزم بالصلاة و الواجبات الدينية الحمدلله

بخصوص السكن، الحمدلله عندي اكثر من خيار، بيتم النقاش بالموضوع أثناء الخطبة ان شاء الله

من الناحية المالية حاليا يمشي لي راتب شهري يكفي اعيش نفسي و زوجتي حياة جيدة الحمدلله

اما الوظيفة حاليا طبيب امتياز و ان شاء الله ناوي اقدم على تخصص جراحة العظام.

في احتمال اطلع من الشرقية او ابتعث برا كم سنة، فا مهم شريكتي ما يكون لها مانع ويمديها تجي معاي، المدة تقريبا ٣-٤ سنين

ودي بالأطفال، بس بعد ٣-٤ سنين من الزواج

طولي 179 وزني 91 و لون بشتري حنطي فاتح. بخصوص

وضعي الصحي الحمدلله ممتاز

اذا كان في توافق مبدئي (وذا الشي يتحدد غالبا خلال يوم او يومين من طرح الاسئلة بين الطرفين) ما عندي مشكلة ندخل الاهل على طول. وبعد ما عندي مانع يكون في فترة بسيطة نتعرف فيها قبل لا يتدخلون الاهل.

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اهتماماتي:

احب السفر بشكل كبير، و مهم بالنسبة لي زوجتي تحب السفر.

البزنس و النقاش عن افكار مشاريع، للأسف حاليا مني بأي مشروع وحاط اغلب فلوسي بالأسهم/ الصكوك. لو كان عندك فكرة حلوة ومقدور عليها بكون اول مشارك معاك.

القيمنق و البورد قيمز

القهوة وتجربة المقاهي

المشي، ما خليت ممشى بالدمام و الخبر إلا ومشيت فيه

المسلسلات الأمريكية بشكل عام و بعد اتابع انمي من وقت لوقت.

———

الصفات الي ادورها:

محجبة او منقبة

ما يفرق معاي لو موظفة او لا بشكل كبير، ولكن إذا كانت موظفة وودها تترك وظيفتها (خصوصا بعد الإنجاب) راح أشجعها.

يكون عندها القدرة تنتقل إلى الشرقية او تكون عايشه هناك

تكون قريبة من عمري، من ٢٠ إلى ٢٧

‎بالنهاية حاب أقول الله يرزقني ويرزقكم بالنصيب الصالح

First of, I would like to start by saying that I agree with Khaled Abo El Fadels stance on slavery, where he says the Quran hints that slavery is morally reprehensible. He has an excellent video on slavery which I do recommend for you to watch. Anyways;

When studying the characteristics of the prophet peace be upon him you would predict that he wouldn’t own a slave himself or that he wouldn’t participate in slave trading because he encourages their freedom. Yet there are some ahadith where the prophet does engage in slave trades

It was narrated from Anas that : the Prophet (ﷺ) bought Safiyyah for seven slaves. (Sahih) (One of the narrators) 'Abdur-Rahman said: "From Dihyah Kalbi.' From Sahib Ibn Majeh. Another variation of the Hadith exists in Muslim.

Another Hadith

There came a slave and pledg- ed allegiance to Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man) sahih Muslim 1602

These are the only two authentic ones.

Hadith skeptics, Shias and Quranists would probably just reject these ahadith. However for Sunnis who do accept them, how do you approach these ahadith ?

First of, I would like to start by saying that I agree with Khaled Abo El Fadels stance on slavery, where he says the Quran hints that slavery is morally reprehensible. He has an excellent video on slavery which I do recommend for you to watch. Anyways;

When studying the characteristics of the prophet peace be upon him you would predict that he wouldn’t own a slave himself or that he wouldn’t participate in slave trading because he encourages their freedom. Yet there are some ahadith where the prophet does engage in slave trades

It was narrated from Anas that : the Prophet (ﷺ) bought Safiyyah for seven slaves. (Sahih) (One of the narrators) 'Abdur-Rahman said: "From Dihyah Kalbi.' From Sahib Ibn Majeh. Another variation of the Hadith exists in Muslim.

Another Hadith

There came a slave and pledg- ed allegiance to Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man) sahih Muslim 1602

These are the only two authentic ones.

Hadith skeptics, Shias and Quranists would probably just reject these ahadith. However for Sunnis who do accept them, how do you approach these ahadith ?

I saw a post of someone using GPT AI to rank prophets based on modern moral values.

This someone was probably Christian, as Jesus was placed as number 1. The prophet peace be upon him was placed as number 8 after many less known religious figures.

The main point was that the prophet owned slaves and that he participated in conquests. I never understood this criticism as it would technically apply to all Christian’s as well, since conquests and slavery is allowed in their religion.

Yet the ranking still bothered me. Is this a sign of low imaan in my part?

I saw a post of someone using GPT AI to rank prophets based on modern moral values.

This someone was probably Christian, as Jesus was placed as number 1. The prophet peace be upon him was placed as number 8 after many less known religious figures.

The main point was that the prophet owned slaves and that he participated in conquests. I never understood this criticism as it would technically apply to all Christian’s as well, since conquests and slavery is allowed in their religion.

Yet the ranking still bothered me. Is this a sign of low imaan in my part?

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاتة،

قبل ما أبدا في نقطة حاب أوضحها، اذا كان في توافق مبدئي (وذا الشي يتحدد غالبا خلال يوم او يومين من طرح الاسئلة بين الطرفين) ما عندي مشكلة ندخل الاهل على طول. وبعد ما عندي مانع يكون في فترة بسيطة نتعرف فيها قبل لا يتدخلون الاهل.

‏‎المعلومات الأساسية؛

رجل اعزب من عائلة معروفة، قبيلي، عمري ٢٤ ساكن بالدمام وناوي استقر فيها

سني و اعتبر نفسي متوسط دينياً، لكن ملتزم بالصلاة و الواجبات الدينية الحمدلله

بخصوص السكن، الحمدلله عندي اكثر من خيار، ١- بيت دورين (الاهل طبعا ساكنين ببيت ثاني، يعني ذا البيت خاص لي) البيت قديم لكن توننا جددناه ويبيله اثاث ٢- شقة اجار ٣- شقة في بيت الاهل وتكون بالدور الثالث وله مدخل خاص

من الناحية المالية حاليا يمشي لي راتب شهري يكفي اعيش نفسي و زوجتي حياة جيدة الحمدلله

اما الوظيفة حاليا طبيب امتياز و ان شاء الله ناوي اقدم على جراحة العظام.

في احتمال اطلع من الشرقية او ابتعث برا كم سنة، فا مهم شريكتي ما يكون لها مانع ويمديها تجي معاي، المدة تقريبا ٣-٤ سنين

ودي بالأطفال، بس بعد ٣-٤ سنين من الزواج

طولي 179 وزني 91 و لون بشتري حنطي فاتح. بخصوص

وضعي الصحي الحمدلله ممتاز

———

اهتماماتي:

احب السفر بشكل كبير، و مهم بالنسبة لي زوجتي تحب السفر.

القيمنق و البورد قيمز

القهوة وتجربة المقاهي

المشي، ما خليت ممشى بالدمام و الخبر إلا ومشيت فيه

المسلسلات الأمريكية بشكل عام و بعد اتابع انمي من وقت لوقت.

———

الصفات الي ادورها:

محجبة او منقبة

سعودية او خليجية

قبيلية

ما يفرق معاي لو موظفة او لا بشكل كبير، ولكن إذا كانت موظفة وودها تترك وظيفتها (خصوصا بعد الإنجاب) راح أشجعها.

يكون عندها القدرة تنتقل إلى الشرقية او تكون عايشه هناك

تكون قريبة من عمري، من ٢٠ إلى ٢٧

Ideally shares some of my interests but this isn’t a requirement

‎بالنهاية حاب أقول الله يرزقني ويرزقكم بالنصيب الصالح

Salam,

I’m sure most of you have heard of Ruqyah, which is the practice of reciting the holy Quran to cure physical and mental illnesses.

There are Hadiths where Ruqya was used to cure poison from scorpions, fever and pretty much most physical illnesses. some scholars said that Ruqya can be effective for any physical illness.

This then invites the question, if Ruqya can work on any disease, then why does incurable diseases like Alzheimer’s still exist ? Also if ruqyas work on poisoning like as mentioned in Hadiths, anti venom would be obsolete.

This makes me doubt the Hadiths related to it, however I’m afraid that this would take me out of the fold of Islam.

Salam Alaikum Wrahma Allahi Wbaraktu,

I’m sure most of you have heard of Ruqyah, which is the practice of reciting the holy Quran to cure physical and mental illnesses.

There are Hadiths where Ruqya was used to cure poison from scorpions, as a treatment for evil eye etc, some scholars said that Ruqya can be effective for any physical illness.

This then invites the question, if Ruqya can work on any disease, then why does incurable disease still exist ? To be more clear, incurable diseases are severe illnesses with a 100% death rate and not a single person ever survived them or recovered from them in recorded History even with modern medicine.

An example of such conditions include: Alzheimer’s, ALS, prion diseases, Huntington disease.

A potential solution a brother recommended to me is that there Are some diseases that Allah have made ruqya ineffective against. Although I’m not sure.

Anyone knows an alternative take?

Is there a way in interpret these verses about the Ad tribe, without believing in giants ?

A popular position exists that posits that the Ad tribe of the prophet Hud were giants, as tall as palm trees. Obviously this is scientifically impossible (square cubics law). Has anyone come across a more realistic interpretation of the following verses?

Surah Al-Haqqah (69:6–8)6. And as for ‘Ād, they were destroyed by a furious, roaring wind,7. Which Allah imposed upon them for seven nights and eight days in succession, so you could see the people therein fallen dead as if they were hollow trunks of palm trees.8. Then do you see of them any remains?

Surah Al-Qamar (54:18–21)18. ‘Ād denied [their prophet], and how [terrible] were My punishment and warnings.19. Indeed, We sent upon them a shrieking wind on a day of continuous ill fortune,20. Plucking out men as if they were uprooted trunks of palm trees.21. And how [terrible] were My punishment and warnings

Surah Al-A'raf (7:69)"Do you wonder that there has come to you a reminder from your Lord through a man from among you, that he may warn you? And remember when He made you successors after the people of Noah and increased you amply in stature. So remember the favors of Allah that you might succeed."

A popular position exists that posits that the Ad tribe of the prophet Hud were giants, as tall as palm trees. Obviously this is scientifically impossible. Has anyone come across a more realistic interpretation of?

Surah Al-Haqqah (69:6–8)6. And as for ‘Ād, they were destroyed by a furious, roaring wind,7. Which Allah imposed upon them for seven nights and eight days in succession, so you could see the people therein fallen dead as if they were hollow trunks of palm trees.8. Then do you see of them any remains?

Surah Al-Qamar (54:18–21)18. ‘Ād denied [their prophet], and how [terrible] were My punishment and warnings.19. Indeed, We sent upon them a shrieking wind on a day of continuous ill fortune,20. Plucking out men as if they were uprooted trunks of palm trees.21. And how [terrible] were My punishment and warnings

Surah Al-A'raf (7:69)"Do you wonder that there has come to you a reminder from your Lord through a man from among you, that he may warn you? And remember when He made you successors after the people of Noah and increased you amply in stature. So remember the favors of Allah that you might succeed."

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاتة،

قبل ما أبدا في نقطة حاب أوضحها، اذا كان في توافق مبدئي (وذا الشي يتحدد غالبا خلال يوم او يومين من طرح الاسئلة بين الطرفين) في خيارين :

١- يتوقف التواصل بيننا، لين ما اهلي يتواصلون مع اهلك وتكون فيه شوفة شرعية.

٢- نتواصل فترة بسيطة ما تزيد عن شهرين او ثلاث.

شخصيا ما امانع الاثنين و الموضوع راجع لك.

‏‎المعلومات الأساسية؛

رجل اعزب من عائلة معروفة، قبيلي، عمري ٢٤ ساكن بالدمام وناوي استقر فيها

سني و اعتبر نفسي متوسط دينياً، لكن ملتزم بالصلاة و الواجبات الدينية الحمدلله

بخصوص السكن، الحمدلله عندي اكثر من خيار، ١- بيت دورين (الاهل طبعا ساكنين ببيت ثاني، يعني ذا البيت خاص لي) البيت قديم لكن توننا جددناه ويبيله اثاث ٢- شقة اجار ٣- شقة في بيت الاهل وتكون بالدور الثالث وله مدخل خاص

من الناحية المالية حاليا يمشي لي راتب شهري يكفي اعيش نفسي و زوجتي حياة جيدة الحمدلله

اما الوظيفة حاليا طبيب امتياز و ان شاء الله ناوي اقدم على تخصص جراحة العظام.

في احتمال اطلع من الشرقية او ابتعث برا كم سنة، فا مهم شريكتي ما يكون لها مانع ويمديها تجي معاي، المدة تقريبا ٣-٤ سنين

ودي بالأطفال، بس بعد ٣-٤ سنين من الزواج

طولي 179 وزني 91 و لون بشتري حنطي فاتح. بخصوص

وضعي الصحي الحمدلله ممتاز

———

اهتماماتي:

احب السفر بشكل كبير، و مهم بالنسبة لي زوجتي تحب السفر.

القيمنق و البورد قيمز

القهوة وتجربة المقاهي

المشي، ما خليت ممشى بالدمام و الخبر إلا ومشيت فيه

المسلسلات الأمريكية بشكل عام و بعد اتابع انمي من وقت لوقت.

———

الصفات الي ادورها:

محجبة او منقبة

سعودية او خليجية

قبيلية

ما يفرق معاي لو موظفة او لا بشكل كبير، ولكن إذا كانت موظفة وودها تترك وظيفتها (خصوصا بعد الإنجاب) راح أشجعها.

يكون عندها القدرة تنتقل إلى الشرقية او تكون عايشه هناك

تكون قريبة من عمري، من ٢٠ إلى ٢٧

Ideally shares some of my interests but this isn’t a requirement

‎بالنهاية حاب أقول الله يرزقني ويرزقكم بالنصيب الصالح

I’m a Muslim who’s recently been doubting the validity of a certain Hadith. It’s about Geckos (the animal) and the prophetic command to kill them. the prophets description of geckos being noxious or harmful currently contradicts the scientific community’s consensus on geckos being beneficial.

A simple google search would let you know that geckos are more beneficial than harmful to keep. The potential harms of geckos such as them spreading disease / or contaminating a place does apply to animals who we can’t kill as well, such as cats.

Knowing this, does someone have any potential context or explanation regarding the description of them being harmful, even tho this description depending on modern data may be inaccurate ?

Fitrah is the innate predisposition in believing in monotheism (one god).

It is stated many times by scholars that Fitrah is present in every human, yet there’s no explicit proof of this.

Not to mention, some uncontacted tribes throughout the past and present do practice some forms of shirk, which would be proof against the existence of an innate predisposition to monotheism.

I’m interested in looking for an answer to the above.

I have a question Question about the prophet PBUH While I lack knowledge unfortunately about the seerah, I have read many Hadiths describing the personality and behavior of the prophet pbuh. His honesty, kindness and fairness are admirable to any rational person.

However there’s something that I couldn’t understand, it’s that the prophet peace be upon him used to own slaves (and concubine depending on certain interpretations of Hadiths).

While he freed many slaves and I believe I read that he freed all of his slaves prior to death, I was wondering why did he own any slaves in his lifetime? The way his noble character was described led me to believe that he would have freed any slave that he was gifted or bought. I had always thought the prophet peace be upon him freed all the slaves that were in his possession or that he didn’t keep them for long before freeing them.

However in this Hadith below it is stated that he sold two slaves instead of freeing them. The fact that he sold slave instead of freeing them kind of contradicts his strong advice to free slaves

The hadith; There came a slave and pledg- ed allegiance to Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man) sahih Muslim 1602

Ofc most of the general public agrees with this. However, if one considers slavery to be injustice or immoral, wouldn’t that be a problem since Islam tolerated it for a certain period of time?

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاتة، عندي سؤال ونوعا ما مشتبه منه

اشوف كثير شيوخ يقولون انه الإسلام ساعد في انتهاء الرق، وكثير منهم يقول انه الرق شي مذموم

بناء على هذا، هل ممكن نقول انه الرق شي غير اخلاقي او ظلم للشخص؟ إذا ممكن نقول هذا، فكيف نوافق بين هذا القول و وكون انه الرق كان حلال سابقا؟