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My complete Understanding of Avoidants

I’ve noticed a lot of mixed opinions on their behavior and actions. So here’s everything you need to know about them:

Avoidants aren’t bad, cruel, mean or nasty people. This is not an avoidant trait because this is not an attachment style trait. Secure or anxious people could be mean or cruel too.

Their longing for intimacy, romance and building a loving relationship fires up simultaneously with their fear of being engulfed and losing independence resulting in the deactivation behavior. This is why a lot of you experience the push-pull dynamic loop. One follows the other.

It’s like how your nervous system learned to stay away from a hot vessel and only attend it when it is at a safe temperature. Their nervous system learned this exact thing just in terms of intimacy and attachment.

So they pull away when the fear of attending a hot vessel rises and come back when it’s safe for them. Of course, this is not a healthy thing to do and not justified for their partners but they don’t know how to deal with it.

Not all of them come back though. The ones with a high degree of avoidance and least self-awareness don’t always come back. But when the avoidants come back, it means they think they can fix it this time until they repeat their deactivation cycle.

It’s not that they don’t love you. They’ve got hearts too. So when they try to stick with you even after all your venting or mean comments or remarks, they did love you as it takes a gulp of self-esteem to return to you even after all that.

Chasing, calling them out on how they treated you, everything wrong they did to you or texting them multiple times won’t make them come to you. But giving them ample space, being highly patient and being okay with them working on their own terms won’t fix your relationship either.

It’s not about your space, your patience, or your boundaries. When they’re faced with a situation to show up, be accountable and be responsible adults, your relationship will suffer.

So don’t listen to avoidants who say that a secure partner heals them or claiming that they heal within the relationship itself. That’s not true rather that’s a way to avoid working on themselves and putting in the effort and accountability stuff. They’re unhealed avoidants because guess who is to be blamed if even that relationship doesn’t work out?

Rare relationships where people have claimed to have a loving and lasting relationship with avoidants… well, their avoidants were deeply self-aware and it took a lot of mental strength and work to make the relationship successful. Not everyone will be doing it.

Not all the avoidants cheat and not all avoidants need new partners or have backups every now and then. Again, this is not a trait of attachment style. You surely must have come across people who cheat on their partners just because they can. It tells about their mindset and the environment they grew up in.

Avoidants could be deeply loyal too and I think most of them out there are.

Bottomline line is, none of what I said above excuses their behavior but it doesn’t label them as unlovable, undeserving of love too. They’re humans with a mostly disturbed and difficult childhood where they learned to handle their emotions and needs themselves when it wasn’t supposed to be so.

In most cases, you’ll find that they have at least one emotionally unavailable parent.

They’re more willing to spend time with friends and family because the bond with friends doesn’t need to make them accountable of anything. Mostly, it’s just surface level. Have them share an apartment with their friends and they’ll see a lot of stuff too.

With parents, a lot of them have had to parent their parents and of course they love their parents but they have deactivation phases with them too. And one of them is almost emotionally unavailable mostly, so not a lot of pressure.

Dynamics are mostly mechanical in friendships and with parents. That’s why you’ll see most of the avoidants won’t have photos with their friends and family. And most of their photos are resting bitch face lol though they do share some laughs with them.

And yeah, most of them will also have a resting bitch face with you. Though they could be smiling among your friends and family members with you.

Avoidants do know exactly what they’re doing. They know every bit of it but they can’t help it. And in the process, they fail to be accountable, responsible and repair the wounds of the relationship.

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Understand that if your relationship doesn’t give you mental peace, happiness and the willingness to choose the same person every day, it’s not the relationship that’ll last long or be a happy one for the longest time.

Next Time you find yourself with any partner be it avoidant, anxious, secure or anyone… evaluate your relationship based on these factors below, and you’ll know if it’s worth it in the long run. This works even when any person returns after a break, breakup or any of that shit:

1. Emotional Safety: Feeling secure enough to be vulnerable, honest, and yourself without fear of rejection or abandonment.

2. Reliability & Consistency: Knowing you can count on each other and that words are generally followed by actions.

3. Repair After Conflict: Returning to difficult conversations, taking responsibility, and making meaningful behavioral changes.

4. Reciprocity: Both partners consistently contribute love, effort, attention, and initiative.

5. Shared Reality & Integration: Gradually building a life together that includes friends, family, routines, experiences, and future plans.

6. Emotional Responsiveness: Being genuinely present and supportive when your partner is struggling, celebrating, or needing connection.

7. Respect: Honoring each other’s boundaries, dignity, autonomy, values, and legitimate needs even during disagreements.

8. Growth Mindset: Being willing to reflect, learn, adapt, and work on yourself and the relationship over time.

In most cases, the score would be low, lesser than four, and that’s your sign to leave because if you don’t, you’ll be sabotaging yourself and change into a person who you weren’t when you met your avoidant.

Don’t lose yourself for a person. Know when to leave, easier said than done, but the long term rewards are multifold.

If your avoidant doesn’t put in the work and keeps you hanging for long because of the push-pull cycle, ask yourself if you’d want to have kids and build a family with them. Ask what will the bond look like between you and your parents, her parents, her etc. include all the combinations and you’ll have your answer.

The purpose of this post was to understand a bit about them at once and not demonize them based on behaviors you assume are avoindant-traits.

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u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 1 day ago

Any one up for a few beers right now?

Can’t bring my car as my bro has taken mine out.

But I won’t shy away from sponsoring a couple of rounds.

Expressway chalte hain. Vahin open hoga.

Who’s up?

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u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 5 days ago

Anyone wants to join for a few beers today eve?

I’ll get my car and we can have a few beers.

Please no smoking or smoking up inside the car as I keep mine quite neat and clean.

I don’t smoke up but have no problem if you do.

I’d prefer a mixed group of guys and gals if possible. I can chill in the sausage party as well lol.

Send me a text with your age and what you do. I wanna know if you’re in school, college or having a job etc.

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u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 8 days ago

Is this really a fashion sub?

Came across this sub for the first time and scrolling through…

It seems more like a validation platform rather than an actual fashion one.

No one describes or writes about their fashion or their takes or…

Maybe explain the why of their outfits.

Seems like I might receive a lot if bashing for this post but that’s really what I felt.

It’s being treated like a validation platform rather:p

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u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 13 days ago

How does it feel to have healed as a former FA?

If we’ve got a FA who is now healed and is at a much much better place…

I’ve got a few questions for you:

  1. How does it feel emotionally and physically to have healed now that you remember your past as an FA?
  2. Has it helped you sustain better relationships with your family, friends and partner?
  3. Do you still think there are residual FA traits left from the past inside you?
  4. What was your biggest breakthrough realization when you noticed you healed?
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u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 16 days ago

How does it feel to have healed as a former FA?

If we’ve got a FA who is now healed and is at a much much better place…

I’ve got a few questions for you:

  1. How does it feel emotionally and physically to have healed now that you remember your past as an FA?
  2. Has it helped you sustain better relationships with your family, friends and partner?
  3. Do you still think there are residual FA traits left from the past inside you?
  4. What was your biggest breakthrough realization when you noticed you healed?
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u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 16 days ago

Is it common for FAs to randomly add (follow back or follow) strangers on Instagram who they don’t even know?

I’ve been thinking about this lately…

My FA ex (32F) randomly added random strangers on her instagram account.

I’ve got no issues with men from school, college, or hometown or the home state whatever.

But I voiced it when I noticed that she’d been adding complete strangers who she’s got no context with.

She said she doesn’t interact with them and has the ‘limit interaction’ feature activated on her profile.

I trusted her but somehow I’m not okay with this behavior as already my needs haven’t ever been met in the relationship.

Her words and her actions have always been opposite like…

Everytime she broke up, she did come back and said she takes all the accountability and that she apologizes,etc

And she’d be okay for a few weeks unless she disappears again without a word.

She has happened countless number of times.

I broke up with her in January. She returned in April saying she learned a lot about herself

And that she realizes that she’d done wrong on me and my parents (since she believed hurting me is also hurting my parents and that she adored them)

She even said that she had to reset some of her beliefs and is working on them

You see? These are the words I was dying to hear.

She did good for a month and then again she disappeared without a word.

I didn’t say anything for 10 days and burst out on maybe the 12th day.

Then I broke up again with a text and haven’t heard from her for about a month.

Maybe she’s still sitting with the text or the hurtful things I said. I didn’t say anything disrespectful but everything that I felt.

So when I can never trust her words.

How can I trust her with adding random men?

Was I being too controlling?

I am open to tough love and criticisms.

Because I really don’t know if asking for not to add random men who don’t belong to your environment, was too much.

Idk if that was being too needy. Even though she wouldn’t interact with them but adding them and not contributing to the relationship got me spinning.

Note: The breakup didn’t happen due to this one thing but hundreds of them piled up.

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u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 17 days ago

Question for avoidants🙌

I’ve noticed that a lot of avoidants do suffer with some kind of gut issues.

So they have to be careful about what they put in their stomachs.

Is it so common or I just happened to come across the ones who have it?

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u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 19 days ago

I think there’s only one type that can get an FA obsessed…

The more I read here the more I realize that…

Anxious people are too much or too demanding for the avoidants (even if it’s basic needs to create a healthy relationship).

A secure person would go crazy thinking what’s even happening? I never signed up for this and would securely walk out or turn a bit anxious but eventually walk out safely.

Another FA would disturb the balance as both of them would be switching between being anxious and avoidants. It’s like there’s no polarity.

Now only a DA can actually get an FA obsessed. They’d stay for a long time (not healthy though) but DA is like the king ping, the one even FAs can’t handle.
DA is colder than an FA. They actually mean when they breakup, never to return back. They could completely shatter the ego of an FA as that’s how FAs were treated by at least one of their parents.

High chances that you’ll find either their mom or dad being completely emotionally unavailable.

Can DAs and FAs here help me with this? Please share your views 🙌

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u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 20 days ago

Did you also struggle with these things/questions while in a relationship with your avoidant?

When was the last time you made a plan with them and they followed it without rescheduling or making excuses?

When was the last time they celebrated you or showed you love with their words?

When was the last time they did something romantic for you?

When was the last time they showed interest in meeting your family members?

When was the last time they showed interest in introducing you to their family members?

When was the last time they introduced you to their friends as their bf/gf and played the role too?

When was the last time they planned about going on a trip with you for a few days at least?

When was the last time they really initiated dates and intimate conversations to feel close?

When was the last time they really tried to deeply understand about you, your childhood, your past experiences? (Apart from dating history)

When was the last time they truly cared for you whenever you needed them?
(My guess would be you didn’t even tell them because they weren’t there at the time or you just didn’t feel like it)

Was the sex with them more emotional or you doubted it was mechanical? (You can choose not to answer this, please)
Emotional sex just hits different as you might know.

When was the last time you told them about what wasn’t working and they actively fixed it?

Do you guys have couple photos together?

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u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 20 days ago
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Ladies and gents, don’t fall for these texts

If your avoidants are still working on themselves…

Or do tell you that they are, you don’t need to be a part of their journey.

Their healing journey is never a straight line or an upward curve (no journey is).

It’ll be more like a sine wave or an unpredictable roller coaster.

The moment you think they’re showing progress, and you appreciate their effort…

Something triggers inside them and they’ll be back at it again.

Don’t take them back unless they’re healed.

If you’re taking them back again, it only means you’ve lost yourself in the process and it’s time to get your esteem back.

You’ve already abandoned yourself.

Take care, everyone. Your routine is waiting for you to get back to.

Do your journalling when overwhelmed (have a diary and a pen by your bedside)

Hit the gym

Go for long walks

Focus on your work

Spend the weekend outdoors on fun activities

All’s well that ends well (cliche but it is what it is)

u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 1 month ago
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31M | I struggle with love life and career breaks

I have been in quite a few relationships with really pretty women and they were all very good to me but somehow there’s always an external factor that shows up.

It’s the community for some (for example Ladakhis don’t easily marry outside their community), one had a dysfunctional family and it showed in her patterns though she loved me a lot but it couldn’t have worked out.

All of them were decent by nature but lady luck is not on my side it seems.

Also, I face significant career issues. I do earn well but when it comes to scaling things or taking it higher, somehow some things don’t work.

What’s the issue?

u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 22 days ago

Should you fight for people you love?

“Should you fight for people you love”?

“Absolutely! Yes”.

“Even if they keep disrespecting you”?

“No”.

“Why not”?

“Because love asks for effort, not humiliation”.

“Then when’s the right time to walk away”?

“The moment a relationship starts costing you your self-respect and decreasing emotional/physical needs”

Love without self-respect only becomes self-destruction.

Take whatever from this dialogue be it any kind of relationship… avoidant or not, anxious or not.

Don’t destroy yourself. Your life is too precious for yourself and your loved ones.

Take care, don’t forget to drink enough water :)

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u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 1 month ago

A lil reminder for you…

If you think you’re losing yourself while being with an avoidant…

Or you’ve been dealing with a breakup…

Or if you’ve been just blocked and never got to see your avoidant or speak with them ever again…

Here’s a small extract from a poem by Selena Miller, ‘The Rebirth of You’.

I came across this wonderful poem recently and I thought it could help some people here.

So here’s it…

Someone who shatters your peace cannot be your soulmate.

Someone who makes you overthink cannot be your home.

Someone who leaves you lonely while they're right beside you is not the one.

Someone who takes your softness and makes you feel wrong for it is not your person.

Real love doesn't drain you.

Real love doesn't make you guess.

Real love feels safe even on the bad days.

So if your chest is always tight, if your mind can't rest, that's not love.

That's survival. Let them go.

Your world shouldn't get smaller just to make someone stay.

And when real love finds you, the calm, steady kind, you'll look back and wonder

Why you ever fought so hard for anything less than that.

-end-

May this help or remind you to not lose yourself over a person who is half-assed into you.

Sometimes you don’t need to know what really love looks like, it’s equally important to know what it doesn’t look like.

“Wish forgiveness upon your avoidants, for they don’t know what they’re doing”

- Jesus on avoidants :)

Best wishes everyone. Have a cheerful rest of the day.

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u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 1 month ago

Is Thong Lo worth settling in?

I’ve been thinking of moving to Thailand lately for a few months (maybe 3-6 months).

I’ve got remote job and it gets really boring to work from home. I guess I need a change in environment.

I’ve stayed in Delhi (capital of India) for most of my growing years though I am from the mountains.

But I’ve always loved a bit of fast life, of course with my own place to chill in solitude when needed.

Watched a few vlogs and I think Thong Lo could be the place I could settle in.

Is an income of $3.5k - $4.2k enough for that area? A lot of people say it’s expensive to stay in Thong Lo.

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u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 1 month ago

You wouldn’t want to believe this

This is a bit long story, sir/mam,

And since now you must be guessing… let the anxiety drown in.

Let the lil voice again be shut down whenever you face it…

Let the feeling sink in and into the hopelessness where the aurora borealis still gives you a chance?

Let the darkness overshadow the light you were constantly reminded of everyday…

Let your big day (birthday) be the most exciting for me as I chanted a prayer into a plant for hours…

Only to listen that it worked.

I took a screenshot of everything you ever mentioned.

I like the shoe flowers, the blue lilies and even the nettle plant, hiding my pain behind that stupid smile she loves to see.

I remember the days I sent the big bouquets and the times I sent the big roses when I’m not around…

It sucks.

But you’re the strongest ever.

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u/Extreme-Border-9667 — 3 months ago