What happened to the major UFO subs in the last few weeks?

This is something I can say openly here because I own the sub, so I don’t have to worry about getting banned for saying it.

In the couple of weeks since Grusch’s latest statements about reptilians piloting Tic-Tacs that supposedly crash after getting into battles with other aliens, it feels like the various UFO and alien subs have been absolutely flooded with bullshit. I mean, even a few weeks ago, you’d see some pretty out-there stuff on those subs, obviously. But lately it feels like it’s reached a whole new level. I’ve never seen those communities this saturated with trash before. Is it just my impression, or are you guys noticing this too?

It’s like someone opened the floodgates after Grusch’s latest statements. What the hell happened? I genuinely don’t know.

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u/Melodic-Attorney9918 — 7 days ago

The Latest Data Dump and the Utah Movie

Article written by Kevin Rabdle
Published on September 20, 2026

Original source of the article: https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2026/09/the-latest-data-dump-and-utah-movie.html?m=1


Well, I can see why we are getting nowhere with the continued data dumps from the government about UFOs. Fox News reported that Peter Doocy was at a White House briefing where they showed an incredible bit of film that, I guess, Doocy thought had been hidden in an archive since 1952. He didn’t even get a good copy of it to show on the air. You can see his report here:

https://x.com/foxandfriends/status/2100923132491989466?s=20

This is, of course, the Delbert Newhouse film taken near Tremonton, Utah, in July 1952. I had an opportunity to speak with Newhouse, as did Ed Ruppelt and others. Newhouse made it clear that he, his wife, and children saw the objects from the car. Newhouse said they were oval-shaped and had moved off before he could get his camera out of the trunk and begin filming.

I provided information about this in a 2013 article on the UFO Chronicles website that you can review here:

https://www.theufochronicles.com/.../tremonton-ufos-they...

And I wrote about the film on several occasions, including an entry in my book, Scientific Ufology, and in an early article in Official UFO magazine. Bernie O’Connor, who was an editor at the magazine, has recently published a book that reprints that early article, as well as many other articles from those first issues. It provides an interesting take on the state of UFO research in the 1970s and is available on Amazon, of course.

But I digress.

I did publish a series of articles about the movie on my blog. There is a link to a video of two girls dancing, and behind them, two birds fly by, looking like the orbs seen in the Newhouse film. For those interested, you can see all that here:

https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2013/12/newhouses-tremonton-utah-movie-revisited.html

https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2013/12/delbert-newhouse-and-utah-movie.html

https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-newhouse-utan-movie-part-two.html

And the girls dancing can be seen here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH4xofCFFkA

If you wish to read the whole article about this aspect of the case, you can read it here:

https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-tremonton-ufo-film-and-haddaway.html

But for all the claims that the film has never been released to the public, an even better copy of the film, along with commentary by Newhouse, can be seen here:

https://youtu.be/cXJUauBs_eI?is=Qgr8_RNcC1PH5ojy

And you can see another clip with Newhouse here (well, it’s the same clip, but shows that it is all over the Internet and YouTube):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of3m8_LvUWs

But here is another clip from YouTube which provides some interesting analysis of the film and shows the original without the black bar running down the center:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLZz2nzrwk

Of course, the point here is that Doocy’s report is misleading. He seems to believe that this is something new but never bothered to type “Delbert Newhouse” into his search engine to find out a little more about the “Utah Movie.”

This underscores my point. These massive releases of information contain a great deal of old material that has been in the public area for decades. We have reporters excited about some of the files but can’t even be bothered to do an Internet search about them. Had Doocy bothered, his report would have had a different spin, but it would have lost its suggestion of something new.

u/Melodic-Attorney9918 — 16 days ago

I’m trying to use the PolyBuzz website, but it won’t let me access it because it says I need to disable AdBlock. However, I have never installed AdBlock, and I’m not using any other system or software that blocks ads.

u/Melodic-Attorney9918 — 23 days ago

Perché il canale dei The Frenchmole sembra essere sparito?

Oggi mi era venuta voglia di riguardare alcuni vecchi video dei The Frenchmole, quei ragazzi pugliesi che tanti anni fa facevano video comici. Tuttavia, quando ho provato a cercare il loro canale su YouTube, non sono riuscito a trovarlo. È come se fosse completamente sparito, insieme a tutti i video.

Era ormai da tanti anni che facevano video che non trovavo più divertenti. A mio parere si sono completamente rovinati da un certo punto in poi. Però sia il canale che i vecchi video che avevano fatto erano comunque ancora disponibili e, volendo, era ancora possibile riguardarli. Adesso invece non riesco a trovare neanche il canale.

Qualcuno di voi si ricorda dei The Frenchmole? Se sì, potreste provare a cercare il loro canale su YouTube e vedere se anche a voi non compare più? Vorrei capire se sono effettivamente spariti o se sono io che per qualche motivo non riesco più a trovarli.

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u/Melodic-Attorney9918 — 1 month ago

Alien Abductions and Leading the Witness

Article by Kevin Randle
Published on March 28, 2005

Original source: https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2005/03/alien-abduction-and-leading-witness.html?m=1


Recently, there has been a discussion on UFO Updates about alien abductions. In the course of that discussion, some of the myths were laid out for us all to see. It's time to challenge these once again, as I did with Russ Estes and Bill Cone, Ph.D., in The Abduction Enigma (TOR Books, 1999). I will mention that the book offended a large number of people in the UFO field, but only because they refused to understand the message of the book.

One of those who disagreed with the message wrote:

> "How anybody can claim that abductions rest with complicated sleep disorders is beyond me. There are literally hundreds of cases where the people aren't in bed, but are driving, walking, etc. There are loads of cases where more than one person is abducted at a time. Now will we hear about a new contagious disease... sleep paralysis that occurs when people are driving or doing other non-horizontal activities?"

The answer to this is that no one is claiming that sleep paralysis answers all abduction cases. It does explain some. Besides, there is a type of sleep paralysis that does, in fact, affect people who are wide awake and involved in other "non-horizontal activities." It's called cataplexy, and, before anyone runs off to look it up, I will point out that it is always associated with narcolepsy. No one, as far as I can tell, has ever done any research into the number of abduction witnesses who are also narcoleptic, though I will speculate that the number is quite small. The point is that some abductions, but by no means all, can be explained by sleep disorders.

He also wrote:

> "I have seen no examples that sleep paralysis has produced accounts just like abductions, any more than magnetic fields have."

Well, then, let's take a look around and see if we can find some examples for you.

First is Pat Roach, the Utah woman who said that she and a number of her children had been abducted. She said that she awakened, believed there had been an intruder in the house, and then called the police. Over the next two years, she became convinced that the intruders had been alien creatures. It was after reading another abduction account in a magazine that Roach made contact with me, through that magazine, because of the article I had written.

It is quite clear to me that Roach was led into her more detailed descriptions by Dr. James Harder, who was looking for some validation of the Hill abduction. It is also clear that Roach took cues from the magazine article I had written about another abduction. Her descriptions of the interior of the craft, for example, mirrored those in that article. Between sessions, Harder discussed other abduction cases with Roach. Just before the session in which Roach revealed that she had been "medically" examined on the craft, Harder told her about Betty Hill's examination aboard a craft. Harder's leading questions took her into other arenas.

So, this would seem to be a case in which sleep paralysis produced an abduction account, helped along by the witness reading the literature that was available and by a researcher who fed her additional information between the sessions. Harder, I believe, had the best of intentions, attempting to calm the witness with his stories of other abductions, but all he did was contaminate the case.

Oh yes... this was a multiple-witness abduction. The genesis was the adult's episode of sleep paralysis, and then two years of discussing it with her children until some of them believed they had been abducted.

Budd Hopkins describes the case of Philip Osborne. Osborne had seen an NBC UFO special, and, one night afterward, awoke paralyzed. This experience reminded him of another, similar experience he'd had while he was in college. He awoke in both cases, unable to move or call for help. In the latter case, he felt there was some kind of presence in the room with him. I might point out that, in about 80 percent of sleep paralysis cases, the victim believes there is something in the room with them.

During the hypnotic regression, Osborne gave few answers that took them in the direction of an abduction experience. According to what Hopkins wrote, Osborne told them that he "had more or less refused to describe the imagery or events that seemed 'too pat,' too close to what he and we might have expected in a UFO encounter." And, during the discussion after the session, Osborne told Hopkins that "I would see something and I would say to myself, in effect, 'Well, that's what I'm supposed to see.'"

The point here is that a case can be made that Osborne experienced, not alien abduction, but classic sleep paralysis. It was under the close questioning of hypnotic regression that details were added to make it into an abduction.

Finally, the Roper Poll about alien abductions, commissioned by Robert Bigelow, had a fatal flaw. The five critical questions, those designed to identify abductees by examining their experiences, could also point to sleep paralysis. There was no mechanism in the survey to differentiate between sleep paralysis and abductions. Someone answering the questions on the survey who had not been abducted, but who had experienced sleep paralysis, would also answer these five critical questions in the affirmative. There is no way to know if the answers reflect alien abductions or sleep paralysis.

The Roach abduction shows leading of the witness, much of it outside the hypnotic regression sessions. The Osborne abduction suggests that Hopkins led him into an abduction, though I believe that Hopkins was unaware of this. Suggesting that there is more to the story, even after the witness has said he or she remembers nothing else, leads to this. The suggestion that the aliens had erected mental roadblocks can also be interpreted to mean that the hypnotist, unsatisfied with the answers, keeps asking the same questions until he or she receives the answers desired.

Remember Edith Fiore. While interviewing a client about a past life, she told the woman, who was unable to recall anything, to "make it up." While this wasn't an alien abduction, it was a session using hypnosis to retrieve "lost" or suppressed memories.

So, we do have some evidence of leading the witness, and we have some evidence that not all sessions are benign. But even David Jacobs was aware of the problem with hypnotic regression and wrote about it in The Threat. Jacobs wrote:

> "When unskilled hypnotists regress an abductee, they fail to situate him in the event's minute-by-minute chronology. Without links to a temporal sequence, the abductee can interpret events without the facts necessary to guide his thoughts, which leads to confabulation and other memory problems."

Lest you wish to argue that he does not include the big-name researchers in this, Jacobs writes:

> "While Mack does not lead the witness in the classic meaning, he embraces the 'positive' therapeutic technique that leads to mutual confirmational fantasies, and easily steers the abductee into dissociative channeled pathways... it represents the antithesis of scientific research: to uncover facts... John Mack accepts 'recollections' at face value."

Which is, in fact, saying that Mack leads his "experiencers."

Jacobs also shows us that he leads the witness. He believes that abductions are a negative event. He wrote of Pam Martin (a name he invented) and told us:

> "As a result of her UFO experiences, Pam had come to believe over the years that she was leading a 'charmed' life with 'guardian angels' helping her overcome life's difficulties... After one particularly vivid abduction experience, she decided the aliens were wonderful beings..."

Jacobs later wrote:

> "I have had over thirty sessions with Pam, and during that time she has come to have a less romantic idea about what has happened to her. She was initially disappointed that what she remembered under hypnosis [conducted by Jacobs] were not the pleasant experiences she had imagined, but she now accepts the [Jacobs'] reality of what has been happening to her."

What he has just told us is that an abductee came to him with one set of beliefs and left with another. It is a reality that differs from the one suggested by John Mack. It can be said here that Jacobs led Pam to his negative interpretation of her abduction experience.

And John Mack said the same thing. He said,

> "It seems to me that Jacobs, Hopkins and Nyman may pull out of their experiencers what they want to see." (Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind by C.D.B. Bryan, p. 271, hardback edition).

That's just a polite way of saying that they lead their abductees to a specific type of abduction. But the point is, there is ample evidence that researchers, no matter how careful and no matter how competent, have led their witnesses in the direction they want to go. To move research forward, we must be willing to admit this.

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u/Melodic-Attorney9918 — 3 months ago

Roswell Nurse Photographs the Bodies? I Don't Think So...

Article by Kevin Randle
Published on July 24, 2026

Original source: https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2026/07/roswell-nurse-photographs-bodies-i-dont.html?m=1


By happenstance, I came across a YouTube video that claimed to feature an interview with a woman who had been a surgical nurse in Roswell in 1947. The claim was that Margaret Ellen Dodd had been tasked with taking pictures of the recovered alien bodies. She said that she had been told to do this because, as a surgical nurse, she wouldn’t be upset by the circumstances. It was in 1985 that she told the story to an Albuquerque UFO researcher. It was the only time she talked about those events. You can watch the video here, though I do hesitate to provide the URL… this really shouldn’t be rewarded, given the circumstances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veF9PaZ10wg

Well, naturally, this caught my attention because, in my decades of research, I had never come across this nurse. I seemed to remember that Tom Carey might have mentioned a nurse with that or a similar name, so I sent him an email. While I waited for a response, I made what are the normal checks. She doesn’t appear in the yearbook created during the summer of 1947 by Walter Haut. She doesn’t appear in the morning reports for that year. Anytime there is activity involving a soldier, joining the unit, leaving it, going on leave, returning from leave, or being unavailable for duty, that sort of thing, that soldier’s name, or in this case, that nurse’s name, would appear in the record. Hers did not.

She was reported to be a lieutenant. This meant that she wasn’t a civilian who had somehow found herself with that strange assignment… not to mention wondering why they would want a nurse to take the photographs. There was a complete photo lab assigned to the base, and if they needed a photographer, one of the men assigned there would have been a better choice. Some of them had even photographed the graphic remains of aircraft accidents.

I hadn’t expected a reply to my query quite as quickly as it came. Tom wrote back, reporting:

> I just spent an entire morning researching the names cited in your email below and basically came up empty because: they're all most likely dead; their ages are/were unknown at any point in time, which would have been a big help in any search; and the alleged nurse's last name ["Dodd"] I assumed was her maiden name but could have been her married name? I don't know. > > Anyway, here's what I did find out, which didn't lead me to a touchdown in the end. In the '47 RAAF yearbook, there is a "Pfc. Willy Dodd" pictured in "Squadron S," which is composed of all black airmen. Since the alleged nurse Margaret Ellen Dodd was an officer, I assumed a relationship as being unlikely. > > More interesting, however, was a listing in my photocopy of the '47 Roswell City Directory for a "Harry Dodd" whose occupation was given as an "orderly at Saint Mary's Hospital" in Roswell. Even though I had no idea of his age, this was interesting enough to spur me to see if I could find this fellow with my search engine using various age groupings. I also limited my search engine to search just the states of NM and AZ for this fellow. To cut to the chase, I could not find a connection between any of the names that resulted and any combination of the nurse's possible names. > > Finally, I located an "M.E. Heid" in my copy of the 1993/1994 Roswell White Pages, but according to you[r] email she passed away in 1991 in Tucson, AZ.

That was basically what I had learned as well. There was no independent corroboration for this tale. We are told in the video that the nurse only spoke with the Albuquerque researcher once and never said anything else about it. According to the video, she had died in 1991 at the age of 67.

However, in the video, it is claimed that the researcher produced a report, but that it was eventually confiscated by the government when he died in 1993, also at the age of 67. He did make eleven copies of it and sent them to various UFO researchers. I wondered why Stan Friedman hadn’t been one of them. Had he received that report, then his book, written with Don Berliner, would have included the tale. It did not.

In fact, I wondered why none of those researchers ever stepped forward with their copy. A document like that, created in 1985 before the case blew up in the 1990s, would have been very valuable.

There were other red flags, things that only those of us who had been researching the case for decades would know. The hospital at the base, in 1947, wasn’t the fancy brick structure that was built in the 1950s. It was a series of buildings that housed the various specialties and functions. A nurse who had been assigned there would have known that.

Tom did one other thing. He sent a copy of my email to Tony Bragalia to see what he could learn. He provided the following information from the content creator, Contact Redacted, with the important points highlighted by Tony:

> I've always been fascinated by aliens, UFOs, classified reports, and the mysteries surrounding them, including alleged abduction and contact accounts. On this channel, we'll examine the evidence and explore what may have been lost, erased, or kept hidden. > > Disclaimer: This channel features exploratory interpretations and speculation about unexplained phenomena, presented through investigative-style storytelling rather than established fact. The perspectives and visual representations are dramatized or creatively constructed for storytelling purposes. Some visuals may be generated, enhanced, altered, or reconstructed using automated or generative artificial intelligence tools to create a more immersive viewing experience. The content presented here should not be considered factual and is intended solely for commentary and entertainment.

This, then, should end any acceptance of the tale as real. The content creator tells us that the content should not be considered factual. Apparently, those who posted comments on the video didn’t bother to check out his bio and see that he had created three other videos (as of this writing) in a similar vein.

This should be the end of it. A story told for entertainment, not as part of the history of the Roswell case. But then I looked at the comments and was further appalled by what some of them said. They were treating the story as though it were real while adding to it. Glenn Dennis was mentioned several times, but Dennis invented his connection to the Roswell crash and the story of a missing nurse. Dennis had said that she had been killed in an aircraft accident that also claimed the lives of four other nurses.

Back in the early 1990s, both Don Berliner and I searched for evidence of that aircraft accident. I won’t go into the details because I have reported on them several times in books, articles, and on this blog. There was no evidence of such a crash.

The point is that there seem to be many people out there who still accept the Dennis tale as accurate, even though the truth has been available for decades. There are those who tell us who Dennis’s nurse might be, mentioning real nurses who were in Roswell in 1947, but that hasn’t panned out either. And when Vic Golubic confronted Dennis about the name of the nurse Dennis had provided (Naomi Self, or Selff), Dennis then said that wasn’t her real name. Golubic managed to obtain a roster of some 125,000 nurses who had served in the Army, but Naomi Self didn’t appear anywhere on that massive roster.

Back when Dennis first began telling the tale, he told me that he had warned us that he wasn’t going to give us the real name. But he never said that to me, nor did he tell others such as Karl Pflock and Philip Klass. Had Klass had that information back in the early 1990s, he would have spread it far and wide. Now, confronted with the fact that we had actually proved a negative, that no one by the name of Naomi Self had been stationed at Roswell, he changed the story. For me, the lie about her name was the straw that broke the camel’s back. In 1997, in The Roswell Report, I outlined all this, meaning that the information has been available for three decades. The Glenn Dennis lies just will not die.

I’m stuck in an endless loop of trying to publish accurate information about the Roswell case, but the false things we have been told and the witnesses who were less than candid keep popping up. Dennis made up the tale. Now we have Contact Redacted inventing a new one that is being immediately accepted as real.

Before I sign off here, let me just say that anyone could have attempted to follow up on this through sources available on the Internet. Anyone looking into it should have seen the red flags… witnesses who are dead, so they can’t be questioned, names of people who weren’t in Roswell in 1947, a failure to understand military protocol, and a failure to produce either an alleged taped interview with one of the witnesses or a copy of that original report, of which there are supposedly eleven copies out there somewhere.

Sadly, the easiest way to check this out was to click on the content creator’s name, which would have taken you to his website, where he tells you that this is a story he invented. That should be the final word on this, but Tom and I wanted to drive a stake through the heart of the tale. I just can’t wait for the next time someone cites this as important new information when all it does is obscure the truth.

u/Melodic-Attorney9918 — 3 months ago
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THE SEEDY SIDE OF SAUCERS

Article by Anthony Bragalia
Originally published in March 2014.

Original source: https://www.ufoexplorations.com/the-seedy-side-of-saucers


The child pornography charges recently brought against Stan Romanek, a UFO researcher and alleged alien “experiencer” who gained global fame, bring to mind the many others who have studied UFOs while simultaneously pursuing other interests that were immoral and often illegal. Why this is so is difficult to say. The world of UFOs attracts many types of people from all walks of life. “Colorful characters” have always been part of it, and we enjoy them. But those within the UFO world who descend into the downright “seedy” should be shunned, and all of their work should be forever forgotten.

DR. RICHARD BOYLAN
Found Guilty of Sex With Patients

Dr. Richard Boylan is a former California psychologist whose general therapy license and marriage, family and child counseling license were permanently revoked. At the same time that he was writing about abductions and UFOs and speaking at conferences, he was also engaging in sexual relationships with young female patients whom he was counseling. These “counseling sessions” were necessary, Boylan claimed, because the women he was accused of having sex with were actually “abductees” who needed tactile therapy to “integrate” their ET experiences.

Boylan still maintains a website, writes online articles and magazine pieces, speaks to groups and continues to promote wild UFO stories. He is now aligning himself with Native Americans who claim personal and ancestral UFO experiences.

But the most disturbing thing that Dr. Boylan continues to do is promote his “Star Kid Project,” which is set up as a nonprofit organization. Boylan claims that certain children today have “special needs” that must be addressed because, essentially, they “have some ET in them.” He works with children whom he says display traits and characteristics indicating that ET has played a role in their creation.

According to Boylan, these beings have “helped these kids to be the brightest and best in our population.” Boylan promotes what amounts to ET-based child eugenics. Someone should examine this more thoroughly, someone with legal authority.

Boylan’s child counseling license was revoked many years ago, yet he continues to refer to himself as “Dr.” even though he will never be able to practice anywhere again.

WENDELLE STEVENS
Convicted Pedophile/Statutory Rapist

Wendelle Stevens was a noted UFO author and lecturer. He was active in the field for decades and was especially known for his extensive UFO photo collection. He was also well known for promoting the hoaxer Billy Meier.

Stevens had a fixation on the Pleiades. It turns out that he also had a fixation on young children.

Lost among the many online memorials published after his death at age 87 was the fact that Wendelle Stevens was a convicted child molester. He served time in a Tucson jail in the mid-1980s for sexual intercourse with a 14-year-old girl.

The court transcript leaves little doubt that, while he was investigating stories such as the Aztec UFO incident, he also had a disturbing interest in pedophilia.

BILL KNELL
Accused Child Abuser

Bill Knell has been active in UFO research and reporting for decades. Known as the “UFO Guy,” he operates several websites and online stores offering DVDs, videos and cassettes about the phenomenon.

Knell has appeared on the nationally syndicated radio show Coast to Coast AM and has written numerous online articles and privately published works. He did some valuable early research into UFO incidents on Long Island and in the New York region.

In recent years, however, Knell’s reputation took a turn. He has been accused of criminal activities such as making illegal copies of other researchers’ copyrighted UFO documentaries and videos and selling them on his website and other online stores.

He has also been implicated in the illegal sale of puppies and firearms.

But several years ago, Knell reached disturbing lows involving his personal life and mental health that shocked many within the UFO community. An article published in the March 30, 2011 edition of the Lebanon Reporter stated:

> “Testimony by the Indiana Department of Child Services and the Lebanon Police Department revealed that the Knell home at 1610 Ashley Drive was layered in filth, overrun by cockroaches, with rotting food in the refrigerator, bathrooms and bedrooms and toilets. The chair that Mr. Knell had been sitting in appeared to be covered in urine and feces.”

The article continued that Knell, 55, and his wife, 47, faced up to 10 criminal charges for child neglect and other offenses.

BOB SHELL
Killer and Drug Dealer

Bob Shell was a highly respected figure in the professional photography world. For thirty years, he was associated with the well-known photography magazine Shutterbug, including serving as its editor.

But Bob Shell also had an avocational interest in UFOs. For many years, he offered expert opinions on various UFO photographs and films, including his assessment of the Alien Autopsy footage. He commented on forums such as UFO Updates and befriended many people within the UFO community.

But this was a Shell game. The “secret” Shell was a very different man.

He was a “teacher” of nude photography and had an interest in S&M. His interest in photographing such activities apparently extended to photographing drug-addicted women. He even helped inject a fatal dose of morphine into a young female “model.”

In 2003, he was convicted in court of involuntary manslaughter, various drug offenses (including distribution) and forcible sodomy. Prosecutors also believed that he had been a necrophile who had sexual contact with the corpse of his victim, Marion Franklin.

Shell is currently serving a 32-year prison sentence.

TIMOTHY GREEN BECKLEY
Adult Film Aficionado

Timothy Green Beckley has been part of the UFO scene for at least four decades. His UFO publishing empire includes imprints such as Inner Light Publications, Global Communications and Conspiracy Journal.

Other enterprises based in New Jersey offer spell kits and amulets sold through advertisements in tabloids.

Beckley has organized dozens of UFO conferences. His UFO and paranormal publishing companies have produced at least 100 books and many videos, including works containing some of the most extreme and unsubantiated claims ever presented by anyone.

His catalog of books, authored by people such as “Commander X,” is truly astonishing. Beckley has undoubtedly made money from UFO enthusiasts willing to believe almost anything.

Only people who would accept nearly any claim could believe the stories promoted in books with titles such as The Space Gods Speak and Reality of the Serpent Race.

However, he also has another source of income from a very different market: pornography.

He contributed articles to the industry publication Adult Cinema Review, including an in-depth piece on porn actress Marilyn Chambers. Beckley has also written and produced his own adult films, including a hardcore porn parody titled Driller: A Sexual Thriller.

He even appeared as an actor in films such as Barely Legal Lesbian Vampires and the unfortunately titled Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre (released several years before the tragedy).

JOHN FORD
Attempted Murderer

John J. Ford was a Long Island court officer, a longtime UFO enthusiast and a MUFON investigator. He founded a UFO research organization, the Long Island UFO Network, in the late 1980s.

Ford attracted the attention of other researchers such as Phil Imbrogno and Linda Moulton Howe for his early investigations into Long Island-area sightings and events.

By the 1990s, however, Ford began to believe that a UFO had crashed near the Brookhaven National Laboratory in Upton, Long Island. He further believed that Suffolk County authorities were involved in creating “diversionary” fires in the Pine Barrens to conceal the alien crash site.

Ford’s beliefs became even more extreme by 1996. At the time, Ford was 48 years old when he was arrested on charges that he was plotting to kill John Powell, chairman of the Suffolk County Republican Committee, as well as Fred Towle, a Suffolk County legislator, and Anthony Gazzola, chief investigator for the Brookhaven Town Attorney’s Office.

Ford planned to place deadly radium in their vehicles and contaminate their toothpaste with radioactive material. He wanted the three men killed because he believed they were intentionally interfering with his investigation into the Brookhaven UFO crash and his efforts to communicate with aliens.

Ford was found unfit to stand trial and was committed to the Mid-Hudson Psychiatric Center, where he remains to this day.

u/Melodic-Attorney9918 — 3 months ago
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What kind of music do you associate with UFOs and aliens?

I've always found it fascinating how music can trigger very specific thoughts, memories and emotions. I think it happens to everyone. Certain genres, or even individual songs, become mentally linked to particular ideas or topics, even if there's no obvious reason why.

So I'm curious: what music do you automatically associate with the UFO topic? It could be an entire genre, an artist, an album, or just a single song. I'm not necessarily talking about songs with alien-related lyrics, but music that simply feels connected to that subject whenever you hear it.

In my case, many songs by Vangelis immediately bring UFOs and aliens to mind, especially Alpha, Come to Me, Echoes and Elsewhere. The same goes for Jean-Michel Jarre's album Oxygène, especially Oxygène, Part 2 and Oxygène, Part 7. Many songs by Enigma give me the exact same feeling, especially Beyond the Invisible and Sadeness. I can't really explain why those pieces of music make me think about UFOs and aliens, but I imagine it has something to do with their melodies and their atmospheric electronic and ambient sound.

There are also some songs that don't belong to the electronic or ambient genres but still make me think about the UFO phenomenon. Some of them include Walk Like an Egyptian by The Bangles, Cheri, Cheri Lady by Modern Talking, Another Day in Paradise by Phil Collins, and Moonlight Shadow by Mike Oldfield featuring Maggie Reilly. The same goes for The Mystic's Dream and All Souls Night by Loreena McKennitt. For some reason, those songs instantly make me think of UFOs and aliens, even though the lyrics themselves have nothing to do with the subject. I guess it's the melodies, the atmosphere and the overall mood of the music that create that association for me.

Am I the only one who experiences this, or are there certain songs, artists or genres that your brain has permanently associated with UFOs and aliens?

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u/Melodic-Attorney9918 — 3 months ago
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A Solid UFO Reading Guide

I've been asked quite a few times what I think the best UFO books are. I've also seen a lot of people across different UFO subreddits asking what books they should read or what books people would recommend. Since it's a question that comes up pretty often, I decided to compile a list of what I personally consider the best books and papers on the subject.

  • Report on the UFO Wave of 1947 by Ted Bloecher
  • The Flying Saucers Are Real by Donald Keyhoe
  • Flying Saucers From Outer Space by Donald Keyhoe
  • The Flying Saucer Conspiracy by Donald Keyhoe
  • Flying Saucers — Top Secret by Donald Keyhoe
  • Aliens From Space: The Real Story of Unidentified Flying Objects by Donald Keyhoe
  • The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects by Edward Ruppelt
  • The UFO Evidence by Richard Hall
  • Mysteries of the Skies: UFOs in Perspective by Gordon Lore and Harold Deneault
  • The UFO Handbook: A Guide to Investigating, Evaluating, and Reporting UFO Sightings by Allan Hendry
  • Encounters with UFO Occupants by Coral Lorenzen and James Lorenzen
  • Project Sign and the Estimate of the Situation by Michael Swords
  • The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry by J. Allen Hynek
  • The Hynek UFO Report: The Authoritative Account of the Project Blue Book Cover-Up by J. Allen Hynek
  • Project Blue Book Exposed by Kevin Randle
  • The Best of Project Blue Book by Kevin Randle
  • Triangular UFOs: An Estimate of the Situation by David Marler
  • UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites by Robert Hastings
  • UFOs over Lakenheath in 1956 by James McDonald
  • The 1957 Gulf Coast B-47 Incident by James McDonald
  • Meteorological Factors in Unidentified Radar Returns by James McDonald
  • UFOs: Greatest Scientific Problem of Our Times? by James McDonald
  • Science, Technology and UFOs by James McDonald
  • UFOs — An International Scientific Problem by James McDonald
  • Statement on Unidentified Flying Objects by James McDonald
  • UFOs and the Condon Report by James McDonald
  • Science in Default: Twenty-Two Years of Inadequate UFO Investigations by James McDonald
  • The UFO Enigma: A New Review of the Physical Evidence by Peter Sturrock
  • Unconventional Flying Objects: A Scientific Analysis by Paul Hill
  • Science and the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis in Ufology by Michael Swords
  • Earth Lights: Towards an Understanding of the Unidentified Flying Objects Enigma by Paul Devereux
  • Electric UFOs: Fireballs, Electromagnetics and Abnormal States by Albert Budden
  • The Roswell Incident by William Moore and Charles Berlitz
  • Crash at Corona: The Definitive Study of the Roswell Incident by Stanton Friedman and Don Berliner
  • UFO Crash at Roswell by Kevin Randle and Donald Schmitt
  • The Truth About the UFO Crash at Roswell by Kevin Randle and Donald Schmitt
  • Roswell UFO Crash Update: Exposing the Military Cover-Up of the Century by Kevin Randle
  • Roswell in the 21st Century: The Evidence as It Exists Today by Kevin Randle
  • Roswell: Inconvenient Facts and the Will to Believe by Karl Pflock
  • Roswell 4F: Fabrications, Fumbled Facts and Fables by Tim Printy
  • UFO Crash-Retrievals: The Complete Investigation - Status Reports I-VII by Leonard Stringfield
  • Crash — When UFOs Fall From the Sky by Kevin Randle
  • Top Secret/Majic: Operation Majestic-12 and the United States Government's UFO Cover-Up by Stanton Friedman and Don Berliner
  • Case MJ-12: The True Story Behind the Government's UFO Conspiracies by Kevin Randle
  • The Secret Pratt Tapes and the Origins of MJ-12 by Brad Sparks and Barry Greenwood
  • Majestic-12 Follies Returns by Barry Greenwood
  • The Interrupted Journey: Two Lost Hours Aboard a UFO: The Abduction of Betty and Barney Hill by John Fuller
  • The Zeta Reticuli Incident by Terence Dickinson
  • Encounters at Indian Head: The Betty and Barney Hill UFO Abduction Revisited by Karl Pflock and Peter Brookesmith
  • Captured! The Betty and Barney Hill UFO Experience by Stanton Friedman and Kathleen Marden
  • Beyond Reasonable Doubt: The Pascagoula Alien Abduction by Philip Mantle
  • Fire in the Sky: The Walton Experience by Travis Walton
  • The Zanfretta Case: Chronicle of an Incredible True Story by Rino Di Stefano
  • The Priests of High Strangeness: Co-Creation of the "Alien Abduction Phenomenon" by Carol Rainey
  • The Abduction Enigma: An Investigation of the Alien Abduction Phenomenon by Kevin Randle, Russ Estes and William Cone
  • The Greys Have Been Framed: Exploitation in the UFO Community by Jack Brewer
  • The Controllers: A New Hypothesis of Alien Abductions by Martin Cannon
  • Project Beta: The Story of Paul Bennewitz, National Security, and the Creation of a Modern UFO Myth by Greg Bishop
  • X Descending: Two Extraordinary Films Reveal Lies, Deception, and Truth About Unidentified Flying Objects by Christian Lambright
  • Crashed Saucers and Malevolent Aliens: The Emergence of the Popular Modern UFO Mythos in the Late 20th Century by Charles Lear
  • Mute Evidence: The Cattle Mutilation Mystery Solved! by Daniel Kagan and Ian Summers
  • Dulce Base: The Truth and Evidence From the Case Files of Gabe Valdez by Greg Valdez
  • Chariots of the Gods by Erich von Däniken
  • The Twelfth Planet by Zecharia Sitchin
  • The Space-Gods Revealed: A Close Look At The Theories Of Erich Von Däniken by Ronald Story
  • The Past Is Human: Debunking Von Däniken's Gee-whiz Theories by Peter White
  • The Myth of a Sumerian 12th Planet: “Nibiru” According to the Cuneiform Sources by Michael Heiser
  • The Meaning of The Word Nephilim - Fact vs. Fantasy by Michael Heiser
  • The Anunnaki Gods According to the Ancient Mesopotamian Sources: English Translations of Important Scholarly Works with Brief Commentary by Michael Heiser and Dorothea Clapper
  • The Cult of Alien Gods: H. P. Lovecraft and Extraterrestrial Pop Culture by Jason Colavito
  • The Legends of the Pyramids: Myths and Misconceptions About Ancient Egypt by Jason Colavito
  • Ancient Atom Bombs: Fact, Fraud and the Myth of Prehistoric Nuclear Warfare by Jason Colavito
  • Solving the 1897 Airship Mystery by Michael Busby
  • The Great Airship of 1897: A Provocative Look at the Most Mysterious Aviation Event in History by J. Allan Danelek

Some of these books and papers contradict each other, because several were written specifically to challenge or debunk the claims made in other works. I don't agree with every conclusion reached by every author, but I think they're all worth reading if you want a broad, well-rounded and rational understanding of the UFO phenomenon and its history.

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u/Melodic-Attorney9918 — 3 months ago
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(Serious) I think I've tracked down where Ross Coulthart got his story about the UFO too big to move, and it goes all the way back to 1987

Everyone in the UFO community has heard the rumor about a UFO so enormous that it was impossible to move. It has been recently popularized by Ross Coulthart.

Well, I have been doing some digging, and I think I have finally tracked down the origin of this story.

The earliest mention I have been able to find of a UFO described in these terms appears in a document published by John Lear back in 1987. You can check it out here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KKeqVOsQ0THQMZYy-u0UmyvgAsn8urD3/view?usp=drivesdk

The document says:

> "Germany may have recovered a flying saucer as early as 1939. General James H. Doolittle went to Sweden in 1946 to inspect a flying saucer that had crashed there in Spitzbergen. > > There were several more saucer crashes in the late 1940s: one in Roswell, New Mexico, one in Aztec, New Mexico, and one near Laredo, Texas, about 30 miles inside the Mexican border. > > Thousands of sightings occurred during the Korean war and several more saucers were retrieved by the Air Force. Some were stored at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, some were stored at Air Force bases near the location of the crash site. > > One saucer was so enormous and the logistic problems in transportation so enormous that it was buried at the crash site and remains there today."

This is the oldest reference I have been able to uncover regarding a UFO so massive that it had to be buried in place.

Where Lear got this information from is impossible to say. Personally, though, I wouldn't be surprised if he simply made the whole story up out of thin air.

Why do I say that? Because it wouldn't be the first time. After all, Lear himself openly admitted that he had circulated fake documents within the UFO community while presenting them as genuine:

> «In May 1989, Lear and Cooper were invited to appear on a tabloid television program, PM Magazine. The TV crew arrived at Lear's home to interview both Lear and Cooper. Later, Lear overheard Cooper telling the interviewer that, while he was on the Naval briefing team in Hawaii, he saw the "O.H. Krill" documents in secret files—documents that I had received from John Lear in his original package of material in early 1988. > > I knew these documents were written by one John Grace, a then-active-duty U.S. Air Force NCO with an interest in UFOs. The name "Krill" was an inside joke taken from a late 1950s case where the U.S. Navy interviewed a woman claiming to channel an alien named "Cyrll." Lear and Grace made up the initials "O.H." out of thin air. Grace didn’t want his name associated with the papers because he was still in the Air Force and wished to avoid adverse publicity. The actual O.H. Krill papers were barely over a year old at the time of the television program, making it impossible for Cooper to have seen them in 1972 or 1973. > > Lear recalled, "When I heard Bill tell the interviewer he saw the Krill papers while he was in the Navy, I motioned him over and asked, ‘What in the hell are you doing?’ He said, ‘What do you mean?’ I told him, ‘Bill, John Grace and I made up the Krill papers. We named them after a 1950s case, and we pulled the O.H. out of thin air.’ But Cooper insisted he had seen them in the Navy. That’s when I really began to wonder about Cooper."»

Source: http://www.ufowatchdog.com/20+YEARS+IN+THE+UFO+FOG.pdf

So, at best, this is a story that Coulthart picked up from John Lear, who in turn heard it from someone we can't identify and never will. At worst, it's a story that Coulthart picked up from John Lear, who simply made the whole thing up. Either way, it doesn't reflect particularly well on Coulthart.

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u/Melodic-Attorney9918 — 3 months ago

Useful Links on UFO Hoaxes, Crash-Retrieval Stories and Whistleblowers

LINKS ON THE ROSWELL CRASHED SAUCER HOAX

LINKS ON THE AZTEC CRASHED SAUCER HOAX

LINKS ON THE KINGMAN CRASHED SAUCER HOAX

LINKS ON THE TRINITY CRASHED SAUCER HOAX

LINKS ON THE MAGENTA CRASHED SAUCER HOAX

LINKS ON THE BENNEWITZ AFFAIR

LINKS ON THE MJ-12 HOAX

The last article is something I wrote back when I still thought Roswell was an actual flying saucer crash. So what I wrote in the paragraph dedicated to the conclusions reflects what I believed at the time. The rest of the article still holds up, but that part should be taken with a grain of salt.

LINKS ON THE PROJECT SERPO HOAX

LINKS ON FAMOUS UFO "WHISTLEBLOWERS"

LINKS ON THE NAZI UFO MYTH

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u/Melodic-Attorney9918 — 4 months ago

The intellectual bar for criticizing religion is way too low nowadays

Recently, I've started noticing a pattern that seems to be becoming increasingly common among younger people who move away from religion and embrace atheism.

Many young atheists don't arrive at atheism through a serious examination of philosophy and metaphysics. Instead, they simply pick up the Bible or the Quran, read them, notice that many of their stories appear to conflict with modern scientific knowledge if interpreted literally, assume that most Christians, Jews and Muslims interpret those stories literally, and then conclude that Christianity, Judaism and Islam are absurd.

As an atheist myself (as well as someone who's trying to achieve a degree in philosophy), this attitude genuinely bothers me. Not because I think people should be religious, but because I think criticism of religion should be based on a real understanding of what is being criticized rather than on simplistic assumptions and caricatures.

The history of Christianity, Judaism and Islam is full of allegorical, symbolic and non-literal interpretations of scripture. For centuries, theologians and philosophers from all three traditions have debated questions about morality, free will, consciousness, metaphysics, the nature of reality and the relationship between faith and reason. If you're going to criticize these religions seriously, that's the level on which the discussion should take place.

If you want to criticize religion, then criticize the arguments of Thomas Aquinas, Al-Kindi, Maimonides or Anselm of Canterbury. Challenge their logic, their metaphysics and their conclusions. That's where the real intellectual debate is. Arguing about whether Noah's Ark could physically fit every animal species on Earth is stupid. Serious religious thinkers moved beyond that level of discussion over a thousand years ago.

Honestly, I believe that part of the reason for this attitude is that many young atheists want to feel intellectually superior to believers. The logic is: "I don't believe these stories, therefore I'm smarter than the people who do."

But that's a childish way of looking at the issue. You can think religion is false, you can think believers are mistaken, but you can't treat religious people like idiots. Theologians and religious philosophers have spent centuries debating some of the most difficult questions imaginable. Even many committed materialists have recognized that.

And before anyone says this is an exclusively American phenomenon, I assure you it isn't. As an Italian, I can tell you that I observe the exact same thing among young people here. This superficial approach to criticizing religion is becoming increasingly common in Italy as well.

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u/Melodic-Attorney9918 — 4 months ago
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After 8 years following UAPs obsessively, I think I've finally settled on what is actually going on

I've followed the UAP topic almost religiously since the Bob Lazar Joe Rogan episode.

Like many of you, I've consumed an absurd amount of information over the years: witness testimony, military encounters, radar data, leaked footage, government reports, whistleblowers, documentaries, podcasts, books, and countless online discussions.

At some point, there's so much information that it's actually difficult to form a clear conclusion. Every case seems to point in a different direction. Some look compelling, others fall apart under scrutiny. It's easy to get lost in the sheer volume of claims.

Over the years, I've tried to distill everything down to what I think is the most likely explanation. It's a bit disappointing compared to the popular narratives, but I think it fits the evidence best.

My conclusion is that UAPs are real, in the sense that there are genuinely unexplained objects or phenomena being detected and tracked. Since the late stages of World War II and especially throughout the Cold War, improvements in radar, sensors, satellites, and aviation technology have allowed militaries to observe things they cannot fully identify.

The key point is this: if the United States has been seeing these things and cannot explain all of them, then Russia, China, and every other technologically advanced nation has likely been dealing with the same problem.

What we have strong evidence for are sightings, pilot reports, radar tracks, infrared footage, sensor data, and government investigations. What we do not have strong evidence for are recovered alien spacecraft or successful reverse-engineering programs.

For decades, despite countless leaks and investigations, the evidence consistently points to observations of unexplained phenomena rather than confirmed extraterrestrial hardware.

The recovery and reverse-engineering narrative only really entered the mainstream through recent whistleblower claims, most notably David Grusch. That's also where I think the possibility of deliberate disinformation begins.

If governments know that some UAPs represent technology or phenomena beyond current human understanding, then every major power would desperately want to understand them first. The ultimate strategic advantage would be convincing your rivals that you've already cracked the code.

In that scenario, the bluff is incredibly valuable.

Imagine you're China and the United States is allowing stories to circulate that it possesses recovered craft and has reverse-engineered exotic technology. Even if those claims are false, China has to take them seriously. The same logic applies in reverse.

So my final verdict is this:

The phenomenon is probably real.

The mystery is probably real.

The sightings are real.

The data is real.

But the crashed saucers, recovered bodies, and secret reverse-engineering programs may be the very place where the disinformation starts. Part of this could also be the remote viewing and other psionic things that mostly came up more over the past years.

Not to hide aliens from the public—but to gain an advantage over rival nations competing to understand whatever these objects actually are.

Of course, I could be completely wrong. But after years of following this topic, this is the explanation that requires the fewest assumptions while still fitting most of the available evidence. I really wish there is recovered craft and bioligics though. I let chatgpt help my with the text, bear with me.

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u/Bucketh3ad92 — 4 months ago
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The ESRI "world map" of UFO sightings most likely had an artificial popularity boost. It's extremely easy to debunk it two different ways. This map is entirely illegitimate, yet it still somehow spreads to millions of people today.

The ESRI world map: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAopNJMbFEI

In the description it says:

>Data source: http://www.nuforc.org

This means that they created a world map using only data from one country, rather than gathering data from a dozen or more countries at minimum, which is what you're supposed to do with a world map. I will provide data from other countries below. It should be no surprise that the country they obtained the data from is heavily biased on that map, yet this propagandistic absurdity still enjoys enormous publicity today.

Now see Worldwide distribution of the English language, which also matches the UFO map very closely.

A lot of people apparently forgot to check where the data came from with this map. It was promoted by Mick West and Michael Shermer for some examples of people who should have known better, but millions upon millions of people were fooled by this over the past decade, and this disinformation is still doing damage, even here today. Here it is with 102,000 likes and about 2 million views on instagram. Here is one with 1,000 retweets on Twitter. I've seen tweets of this with 4 million views, and on and on...

I will repeat: it was a world map that only used data on UFOs from a single US-based organization... When you check other countries, it should not surprise you to find out that the distribution of UFOs appears to be distributed fairly evenly, both with total reports and leftover unknowns, exactly as you would expect. Instead, if we took only the data from France and mapped it, for example, the map will be very heavily biased towards France.

Before I provide data from outside of the US, the only other important thing that I need to point out is that it matters whether the organization collecting the cases is civilian or government. If you compare government organizations that study UFOs, they are highly similar country to country. Similarly, civilian organizations come up with similar numbers as well, except they might collect 10 times the amount of reports or more. You can compare total population in the country, total UFO cases, and the total cases that are left unknown after thorough investigation. It's best to compare it like apples to apples, but it doesn't matter because you can easily discredit the ESRI map either way. Nuforc is a civilian organization, but I will provide sources here on each for anyone interested in comparing them.


Data from US and other countries:

United States (population 330 million, 13,128 UFO cases, 5 percent unexplained after investigation):

>By the time Project Blue Book ended in 1970, it had collected 12,618 UFO reports... 701 reports were classified as unexplained, even after stringent analysis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Book

Modern stuff: https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Unclassified-2022-Annual-Report-UAP.pdf

>"Where the full 13,134 [Bluebook] cases are critically appraised, the percentages of unknowns falls to some 5 percent." -The Hynek UFO Report, page 18

France (population 65 million, 1,600 UFO cases, 3.1 percent leftover unexplained):

>The team is called Geipan. That's a French acronym for Study Group and Information on Non-Identified Aerospace Phenomenon. Its boss is Xavier Passot. Surrounded by dozens of books on UFOs, and stacks of documents, he tells me his mission is to be as transparent as possible about strange sightings and to follow up on each one that his team receives. They publish their results on their website which gets 30,000 hits a month. The team receives, on average, two UFO sightings a day. The department insists an 11-page form is filled out for each one. The idea is to provide details including photographs where possible but also weed out jokers and time-wasters. ... But there are around 400 UFO sightings going back to the 1970s that the French team cannot explain. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29755919

>Of the 1600 cases registered since 1954, nearly 25% are classified as “type D”, meaning that “despite good or very good data and credible witnesses, we are confronted with something we can’t explain”, Patenet says. https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11443-france-opens-up-its-ufo-files/

Note: it depends on who is counting, how vigorously they investigate, what their methodology is, etc. A number closer to reality in France is probably 3 percent leftover unknowns after investigation, similar to US estimates. Here is one that says 3.1 percent: "99 cases in Class D, (Unidentified Phenomenon after investigation, 3.1%" Link

Uruguay (population 3,500,000, 2,100 cases, 40 Unknowns or 2 percent):

>The Uruguayan Air Force has had an ongoing UFO investigation since 1989 and analyzed 2,100 cases, of which they only consider about 40 (2 percent) to be definitely lacking any conventional explanation. https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Ultimate_Collection_on_UFOs/eQj1AwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=uruguayan+air+force+ufo&pg=PA160&printsec=frontcover

Canada (population 39 million, 20,000 UFO cases, 3.42 percent unknowns in 2025):

>The talk and presentation mark Rutkowski’s donation to University of Manitoba Archives & Special Collections of his extensive personal collection and files on this case and other UFO sightings and related phenomena from across Canada. These include more than 20,000 separate UFO reports filed with various agencies since 1989 https://news.umanitoba.ca/the-falcon-lake-ufo-files/

>The 2025 numbers show 1,052 UFO reports were shared in Canada, involving “participating private organizations, and through social media.” Those 1,052 sightings are in contrast to the 1,008 in 2024, 570 in 2023, 768 in 2022, 722 in 2021, and 1,243 in 2020, which was up from 849 in 2019. Out of all those 2025 reports, 3.42 per cent were classified as “unexplained.” https://globalnews.ca/news/11723579/ufo-sightings-in-canada-2025/

Sweden, Norway, Finland in the 1930s only (5-10 percent unexplained, 487 cases, 42 unknowns)

Ghost Fliers, winter of 1933/34-

>In another twist, the Swedish military, through its Chief of Staff, published its final report on the Ghost Flier in early July 1935, more than a year after the wave had ceased. After concluding that 42 of the 487 reports investigated by the three countries were of actual aircraft violating the borders, the General Staff now admitted that the Ghost Flier was real. "It must be concluded that aircraft whose nationality has not been established have flown over Northern Scandanavia during the winter of 1933-1934," the report said.

-UFOs and Government- a Historical Inquiry, chapter 16

The 1950s, Sweden- (population in 1950s: 7 million, 6,000 reports. Out of 400 cases investigated, 40 remained unknown, or 10 percent)

>During the 1950s, the Swedish Defence staff not only collected but also investigated hundreds of alleged sightings of unidentified flying objects from all over Sweden. Extensive archives, now at the Defence Research Institute, show a dedicated staff making a great effort to solve the many reports.

>"We did get reports from several sources--the general public, the local military organizations, in different parts of Sweden, and from the central air control," says Peter Sundh, who from October 1951 until October 1954 was head of a unit at the Defence Staff responsible for investigating reports about UFOs. During this time, his department handled 6,000 reports, of which 400 were investigated and around 40 remained unexplained.

>"We always tried to verify the reports, make a thorough interrogation and never had a superior attitude towards the witnesses. Even when we took the reports higher up in the hierarchy, no one laughed at the concept of aliens or flying saucers. There were always these five to ten percent that we never could explain."

-UFOs and Government- a Historical Inquiry, chapter 16, by Michael Swords, Robert Powell, and others. (link to Google books)

Additional information: http://www.cagliostro.se/2011/05/02/the-ghost-fliers-2775134

Spain (population 47 million, 7,000 cases, 7 percent unknowns):

>UFO sightings in Spain are in excess of 7,000, but less than 2 percent of these have been reported to the Spanish Air Force (people may not have known they could, or how to report such things to the Air Force). Out of 122 cases analyzed by an international team directed by Ballester Olmos, 99 had conventional causes, 14 insufficient data for evaluation, 9 unexplained. - UFOs and Government, Michael Swords and Robert Powell, page 430.

Denmark (population 6 million, 15,000 sightings, 200 Unknowns or 1.33 percent)

>COPENHAGEN, Denmark, Jan. 30 (UPI) -- The Danish Air Force has released 329 pages of previously classified archives on UFO sightings, including details on more than 200 unsolved cases. https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2009/01/30/Denmark-releases-UFO-archives/90411233360944/

>The Danish Air Force has opened its UFO files, which were treated as state secret up until today. The archive features information on over 15,000 reported extraterrestrial sightings. https://denmark.net/denmarks-secret-ufo-files/

>Danish UFO Files https://archive.org/details/DanishUFOFiles/page/n21/mode/2up

Civilian UFO case collection:

Germany (population 85 million, 140,000 sightings, of which 5 percent are unexplained, 500 cases with no possible explanation):

>"Germany has a high level of UFO sightings," Robert Fleischer, the coordinator for the German Initiative for Exopolitics, told Deutsche Welle.

>He said that, since 1974, over 500 so-called "real" UFO cases - reported sightings that, after careful consideration by specialized experts, cannot be related to any conventional information - have been recorded.

>"However, there has never been any official recognition by the German government relating to UFOs or UFO activity," Fleischer added. "So if the Germans were to open any files relating to UFOs, all we would find out is that they pass all their information to the Americans." https://www.dw.com/en/despite-partial-disclosure-europes-ufo-files-remain-mostly-under-wraps/a-4783950

>In Germany, there seems to be an endless list of hobby clubs and nonprofit associations. The Association for UFO Research (GEP) is one of them. Their databank includes 140,000 entries, and 95% of them can be explained. https://www.dw.com/en/ufos-and-aliens-in-germany/a-58077707

u/MKULTRA_Escapee — 4 months ago
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The CIA's January 1953 Robertson Panel put the word "debunking" in quotation marks in its formal recommendations. Five physicists in four days designed the public posture the government has used on UFOs ever since.

I spent eight years in the Navy as an Operations Specialist, four of them running the Fleet Air Defense Identification Zone in the Eastern Pacific. The job was contact resolution. I've been working through the declassified UAP record the way I'd work a watch, by reading what the documents actually say.

On July 2, 1952, Navy Chief Warrant Officer Delbert C. Newhouse, a career Navy photographer, filmed about a minute of bright objects moving in formation over the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah. His wife and two young children were in the car. The film went to the Navy's Photographic Interpretation Laboratory at Anacostia, which spent more than one thousand man-hours on frame-by-frame analysis. The written conclusion: not aircraft, not balloons, not birds. Unidentified.

Six months later, five physicists watched the same film for part of one morning in a Pentagon conference room and called it seagulls. That is the Robertson Panel.

The CIA convened it, not the Air Force. On September 24, 1952, H. Marshall Chadwell, Assistant Director of the CIA's Office of Scientific Intelligence, signed a Secret memorandum to Director of Central Intelligence Walter Bedell Smith. Chadwell wrote that sightings over major U.S. defense installations were "not attributable to natural phenomena or known types of aerial vehicles." The CIA's own Assistant Director for Scientific Intelligence put on paper, to the Director, that the objects were real and clustered over American defense installations.

What Chadwell wanted Smith to act on was not the objects. It was the public. He feared a Soviet first strike masked behind a flood of UFO reports clogging the air defense channels. He wanted Smith to authorize a program to reduce the reports.

The Intelligence Advisory Committee approved on December 4, 1952. The panel met for four days starting January 14, 1953. Howard Percy Robertson, a Caltech physicist who had served as Chief of Scientific Intelligence at SHAEF in 1944 and 1945, presided. Around him sat Samuel Goudsmit, Luis Alvarez, Lloyd Berkner, and Thornton Page. Every man held active clearances and had spent the war inside compartmented programs. The CIA pulled the senior bench of America's classified scientific establishment.

Frederick Durant of CIA scientific intelligence wrote the summary. The operative language is in Tab A. The headline conclusion has been quoted everywhere for seventy-three years: the evidence shows "no indication that these phenomena constitute a direct physical threat to national security." Read what that does not say. It does not say the phenomena are not real. It says they are not a direct threat.

The next paragraph is the one that got buried. The panel recommended that "the national security agencies take immediate steps to strip the Unidentified Flying Objects of the special status they have been given and the aura of mystery they have unfortunately acquired." The educational program they recommended would have "two major aims: training and 'debunking.'" The quotation marks around debunking are not mine. The panel put them there, in a formal CIA-approved recommendation, in 1953.

The plan ran through mass media. The report named Walt Disney Inc. as a candidate producer of educational films, a suggestion made at the table by J. Allen Hynek himself. It also recommended that two American civilian research groups, the Civilian Flying Saucer Investigators in Los Angeles and the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization in Wisconsin, be watched for their potential influence on public opinion and "possible use for subversive purposes."

The Robertson Panel did not touch the classified record. Chadwell's defense-installation memo stayed in the CIA's file. The Newhouse film stayed on the Navy's books at unidentified. The panel was hired to design the public face. The investigation kept running underneath.

In December 1969, the Air Force closed Project Blue Book and announced the government was finished with UFOs. The FBI's file on the same subject, 62-HQ-83894, had been open since 1947 and stayed open. In September 2023, an FBI agent at a restricted military range filed a UAP report on Form FD-302 carrying word-for-word the same custody-control language Special Agent D. Arthur Byrnes Jr. had filed under at Socorro in May 1964. Same channel, fifty-nine years later.

The Atomic Energy Act of 1946 built the federal mechanism for permanent secrecy. Certain technical facts get classified automatically, beyond the reach of courts and Congress without specific authorization. The Robertson Panel showed that by 1953, the same mechanism was already being applied to UFOs.

AARO was created by Congress in the 2022 defense authorization and released its first public UAP case file in May 2026, the first government UAP report in seventy-three years without the debunking frame the Robertson Panel designed. Congress did not give AARO the authority to declassify what sits underneath. The Schumer-Rounds UAP Disclosure Amendment would have. It cleared the Senate and was gutted in conference in 2023.

Tab A is still operative. The Durant Report is on the public record. The open question is what has been filed under it for seventy-three years, and who has been cleared to read it.

Full breakdown with the document images here: https://vincentactual.substack.com/p/the-government-has-been-lying-about

u/Melodic-Attorney9918 — 5 months ago

(Legends) What happens to Naboo after Return of the Jedi?

Hey everyone,

I’ve never really gone deep into the post-ROTJ EU. I've never read the novels and comics set during the New Republic era or during the New Jedi Order era. However, I do know the general outline of events and the broader continuity from summaries and discussions online, so I'm not completely clueless.

One thing I’ve always been curious about, though, is Naboo. I’ve always really liked Naboo as a planet, especially in the Prequel era. There’s something about its culture, architecture and overall atmosphere that really stood out to me. So I was wondering: does Naboo play any significant role after Return of the Jedi?

Thanks in advance for any response I'll get.

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u/Melodic-Attorney9918 — 5 months ago