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In fiction if a character has fire, heat, light or solar/stae based powers. They typically project it as a long ranged attack through their hands. Maybe their feet too (if they are martial artists or flying) and in cases like Superman substitutes or Cyclops likes. They have heat vision or optic hard light beams.

But if theres a character who can spit or breathe out fire like a flamethrower expect that character to be less human and more animal like or that their firebreathing come across as more feral, violent or angry by comparison.

I feel superheroes with firey powers dont tend to breathe fire and while villains may not you do get it sometimes like Killian breathing fire in ironman 3 gices off some dragon like imagery, Azula does it where losing her mind making her seem very feral. Bizarro in Superman and lois roars his fire breath animalistically and burns down his barn after an argument with his wife leads her to leave him taking their sons too. Broly is more of a Qi/Ki example but he comes across more brutish or rage driven when he spits out lasers from his mouth whilst howling in anger as opposed to most super saiyan blasting through their hands.

In Pokemon almost all fire types breathe out fire as their default attack regardless. Though the more animal-like ones almost do all their fire attack through their mouths. The more humanoid ones are at least just as likely to punch or kick with fire. Many dont shoot flames from their hands.

And then again fire breathing in myths and religions is usually associated with feral violent Dragon in Europe who are no more intelleigent than a svaage animal. Whilst the more intelligent or deity like counterparts in Asia are typically water, sky or electric associated rather than fire.

The biggest exception to this rule is Dhalsim in street fighter. But I wanna see if anyone here can comment on whether Fire Breathing in media is more associsted with Ferality or animalistic characters or when their mindset drops to that level.

I was wondering if this is a trope where a fictional character has or uses an accent that is from the country they claim to be but then its completely the wrong accent for the place they claim to come from. I dunno if this counts as misplaced accent or not.

In the Serpent TV show. Charles Sobhraj pretends he is a Peurto Rican American citizen when interrogated by an US Embassy member who points out Charles American accent doesnt match the part of American his ID claims he is from. Charles brushes it off clsiming he used to travel around with puerto rican grandparents a lot and he didnt have single accent to stick to or something so he gets away with it. For what its worth Charles is a French citizen of Indian/Vietnamese mixed heritage.

Mystique in X-Men evolution has this going on when she pretends to be a British exchange student name Risty Wilde and seems to be using an Estuary or generic southern English accent but she claims to come from Manchester which is in Northern England and they have a very different accent as a whole.

Arrowverse has this with Manchester Black and John Constantine. Black is from Manchester but played by British Nigerian David Ajala using his natural MLE with a slight northern twang (my best guess he was probably told to tone down any attempt at a Manc/northern accent). British characters associated with him have southern accents like his ex having a posh RP accent and his friend Top Hot using a fake cockney sounding accent (theyre actor are Asian Americans so yeah its bad). Constantine is from Liverpool but played by a Welshman using what is nit quite a Scouser accent. What makes it funny is that SaturnGirl from is played by Amy Jackson who is allowed to use her natural Scouse accent because producers wantes her accent to sound as Alien as possible as if the humans of Saturn developed their own accent in isolation.... just sounds like Liverpudlians/Scousers colonise Saturn in the future.

Also everytime Lewis Tan plays an evil hongkong character. He does a dodgy mix of Cockney and Chinese (the actor claims to do this because Hong Kong was a British colony and incorrectly assumes they use British English with an english accent). What more bizarre is people thinking thats Tans real accent because he is born in Manchester, UK but the Cockney accent is nothing like the Manc one and also Tan is raised entirely in L.A. and has no natural British accent of anykind. When Scott Adkins mentions his Manchester birthplace and jokingly does a Manchester accent during their YT interveiw. Lewis Tan doesnt seem to hear a differenfe between Adkins Brummie accent and the fake Manc one he was using. For what it is worth English in Hong Kong is more americanised now much like most of the East Asia.

The final example is from web series Cornershop Show. Michael Truong plays a Chinese immigrant Tony Chang but uses a Vietnamese accent despite Tony being directly from China. In a podcast Michael revealed he was unaware that the Chinese accent that he copied from his parents was actually a Vietnamese accent because he was never told by them they were Hoa immigrants to the UK. Hoa being Vietnamese peolle of Chinese Ethnicity. So he genuinely thought his parent immigrated from China to the UK not knowing they were Vietnamese immigrants of Chinese Ethnicity to the UK.

I feel like theres definitely more examples of this in media whether its because a character is unable to recognise or is unaware of regional accents. Or the writers prefer a steroetypical/base neutral accent instead.

I was wondering if this is a trope where a fictional character has or uses an accent that is from the country they claim to be but then its completely the wrong accent for the place they claim to come from. I dunno if this counts as misplaced accent or not.

In the Serpent TV show. Charles Sobhraj pretends he is a Peurto Rican American citizen when interrogated by an US Embassy member who points out Charles American accent doesnt match the part of American his ID claims he is from. Charles brushes it off clsiming he used to travel around with puerto rican grandparents a lot and he didnt have single accent to stick to or something so he gets away with it. For what its worth Charles is a French citizen of Indian/Vietnamese mixed heritage.

Mystique in X-Men evolution has this going on when she pretends to be a British exchange student name Risty Wilde and seems to be using an Estuary or generic southern English accent but she claims to come from Manchester which is in Northern England and they have a very different accent as a whole.

Arrowverse has this with Manchester Black and John Constantine. Black is from Manchester but played by British Nigerian David Ajala using his natural MLE with a slight northern twang (my best guess he was probably told to tone down any attempt at a Manc/northern accent). British characters associated with him have southern accents like his ex having a posh RP accent and his friend Top Hot using a fake cockney sounding accent (theyre actor are Asian Americans so yeah its bad). Constantine is from Liverpool but played by a Welshman using what is nit quite a Scouser accent. What makes it funny is that SaturnGirl from is played by Amy Jackson who is allowed to use her natural Scouse accent because producers wantes her accent to sound as Alien as possible as if the humans of Saturn developed their own accent in isolation.... just sounds like Liverpudlians/Scousers colonise Saturn in the future.

Also everytime Lewis Tan plays an evil hongkong character. He does a dodgy mix of Cockney and Chinese (the actor claims to do this because Hong Kong was a British colony and incorrectly assumes they use British English with an english accent). What more bizarre is people thinking thats Tans real accent because he is born in Manchester, UK but the Cockney accent is nothing like the Manc one and also Tan is raised entirely in L.A. and has no natural British accent of anykind. When Scott Adkins mentions his Manchester birthplace and jokingly does a Manchester accent during their YT interveiw. Lewis Tan doesnt seem to hear a differenfe between Adkins Brummie accent and the fake Manc one he was using. For what it is worth English in Hong Kong is more americanised now much like most of the East Asia.

The final example is from web series Cornershop Show. Michael Truong plays a Chinese immigrant Tony Chang but uses a Vietnamese accent despite Tony being directly from China. In a podcast Michael revealed he was unaware that the Chinese accent that he copied from his parents was actually a Vietnamese accent because he was never told by them they were Hoa immigrants to the UK. Hoa being Vietnamese peolle of Chinese Ethnicity. So he genuinely thought his parent immigrated from China to the UK not knowing they were Vietnamese immigrants of Chinese Ethnicity to the UK.

I feel like theres definitely more examples of this in media whether its because a character is unable to recognise or is unaware of regional accents. Or the writers prefer a steroetypical/base neutral accent instead.

I was watching Netflix YOU. Theres a scene where Forty asked Joe Godlberg if he is a self hating Jew because he uses the fake name Will Bettelheim.

Im from the UK so from my POV both Goldberg and Bettelheim sound German. But Forty claim Goldberg sounds Jewish and Bettelheim soinds Nazi.

How do Americans distinguish which German names are Jewish sounding and which are Nazi sounding? Coz from a UK POV British Jews like Lord Alan Sugar for example have straight up anglo-sounding names that at least too me just sound plain English.

Aya Cash is an Ashkenazi American Jew that infamously plays a super Nazi German character Storm Front in The Boys. I saw the trope Jews playing Nazis applied to her and it got me thinking how often do we see something similar or along the lines of this with other cultures and their oppressors/tormentors. What would we call it for example that arent Jews playing Nazis but something similar?

One that came to mind for myself Stephen Graham playing a Neo-Nazi Skin Head whose character calls a black man the N-Word before attacking him and beating him to death. Graham irl has a Black Jamaican father and his siblings are clearly mixed while he is White passing.

British Asian Mauritian actor Hamza Jeetooa is a Muslim in real life but in Doctor Who his character is an anti-Muslim Hindu extremist who murders his own Brother for marrying into a Muslim family and would have killed his own Muslim In Laws too.

Keanu Reeves is partially Chinese but I keep seeing this reel of him playing a white guy who mockingly say Konichiwa to Korean American street gangsters. When they call him out in it. He goes in a racist rant about not being about to tell coz they apparently act like every other racist stereotype he has of non-Asian comminities whilst dropping some questionable slurs Ive never heard of before and dont want to repeat (except Dog Munching bit Ive hears that before) but Keanu could technically by allowed ti say for being Partially Far Eastern Asian.

An LGBT example would be Homosexual John Barrowmans Malcolm Merlin in Arrow who is implied to be Anti-LGBT mostly in his interaction with bisexual Sarah Lance and lesbian Nyssa Al Ghul.

British Gujurati Hindu Dev Patels most famous roles have been Muslim. But in an inversion of this idea. His character Jamal Malik (an Indian Muslim) is forced to flee anti-Muslim Hindu extremists after witness them kill his mother and attempt the same with him and his brother. Note Dev Patel is definitely not an Anti-Muslim or Hindu Extremist its more the irony that he is a Hindu playing a Muslim character who almost gets killed by Hindus for being Muslim when irl he'd be safe from prosecution.