▲ 548 r/everydaymisandry+4 crossposts

What's going on in Italy?

As sad and disheartening as ‘men’s issues’ are, there is actually something worse…

And that is, the chronic lack of political will and interest in addressing such issues.

For example, male suicide remains the biggest risk to life for all men under fifty, claiming more than half a million (!!) men’s lives worldwide each year.

That number is impossibly large, and truly staggering.

But what is somehow more shocking, is that when national plans are announced to help combat suicide – such as earlier this month in Italy – somehow suicidal men are routinely left in the cold, with women made a ‘priority’ group instead.

That’s right…

Despite men being 78% of suicides in Italy, women will be one of the primary beneficiaries of Italia’s recently announced ‘National Plan for Suicide Prevention’ instead.

And for me, that is the most shocking part of this whole space.

It’s not that:
Men’s health is now worse than women’s by nearly every metric…

Or that boys are behind at every stage of Western education…

Or that men dominate in homelessness, incarceration, workplace fatalities, suicide, drug deaths, and as victims of violent crime…

The most shocking thing is that, when it comes to political conversation, all we seem to get is tumbleweed.

Of course –

This is doubly disorientating, as we are routinely told that “men” are the ones who benefit from political power, that men are the ones systemically privileged; and that men have built the system and written the laws, for eternity, as part of some omnipotent patriarchal male oppressor class.

Such claims certainly sound good on social media, or when bravely bellowed by your local feminist campaigner; but in reality, where our men and boys are silently crushed by both public and political malaise, such slogans seem embarrassingly far from the truth.

So why do our politicians and ministers keep on betraying vulnerable men?

And what on earth is going on in Italy right now?

What do you think?

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Source:
Italian policy announcement https://www.salute.gov.it/new/it/news-e-media/notizie/10-settembre-giornata-mondiale-la-prevenzione-del-suicidio/

78% of suicides in Italy are male https://countryeconomy.com/demography/mortality/causes-death/suicide/italy

Ana Redondo, “morally, ethically and constitutionally” wrong https://www.esdiario.com/nacional/240509/135661/ministra-igualdad-ana-redondo-hombres.html

Ana Redondo, “frivolous” waste of money https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/13/male-rape-centre-waste-of-money-spain-equality-ministry/

Aurore Bergé rejects request for first support line for abused men https://questions.assemblee-nationale.fr/q17/17-8484QE.htm

Jess Phillips laughs at mens issues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XX6ATwQv7Q&feature=youtu.be

u/Kuato2012 — 23 days ago

Juvenile lover detained for abetting 24-year-old woman's suicide

The woman:

  • Groomed a minor and entered into a relationship with a 17-year-old boy.
  • Forced/pressured a minor to marry her, even though a boy cannot legally marry before the age of 21. Forcing a minor into marriage can be an offence under child-marriage laws.
  • Showed obscene material to a minor over a video call, which can constitute an offence under POCSO.

The boy was also wrong for screen-recording the obscene material and later using it to blackmail her when she was forcing him to marry her.

The articles don't appear to mention the woman's actions involving grooming, sexual conduct with a minor, forcing him into marriage, or the POCSO offence. Instead, they are presenting the woman as the ultimate victim and the minor boy as the ultimate culprit.

His "crime" was just using an illegal means of self-defense against her illegal acts.

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u/SnooBeans6591 — 1 month ago
▲ 101 r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates+1 crossposts

Katie Couric on an Office of Men’s Health

"no this is not satire"

Katie Couric's response to Senators Ruben Galego (D-AZ) and Roger Marshall (R-KY) introduction of a bill to establish an Office of Men’s Health.

I have heard from men's advocates on this sub re: fallacies on equity for research and study participation for men and women. Couric appears to be repeating some of these fallacies. I am not educated enough to evaluate this myself.

What I can evaluate is the insane zero-sum mentality and the palpable, scary anger from a top media figure in a viral post. Where does that even come from?

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u/SnooBeans6591 — 1 month ago
▲ 53 r/antifeminist+1 crossposts

Gender equality still has a long way to go in western countries, which includes many harmful double standards affecting men

Disclaimer: This post is in no way, shape or form trying to take away from the inequality that women suffer from on a daily basis, it simply is intended to shine a light on harmful double standards that exist against men. (This disclaimer being necessary acting as the first example)

If men treat men badly, people call it toxic masculinity. (Perpetrator framing) If women treat women badly, people call it internalized misogyny. (Sufferer framing)

If women are falling behind in education (70s), it's called patriarchy. If men are falling behind in education (today), it's viewed as "boys being boys".

If there's a lack of women in men-dominated spaces, it's time to support a women's quota. If there's a lack of men in women-dominated spaces, there is no push for a men's quota. (Fun fact: Male version of this word is missing in the German dictionary)

If men are being told to not stick their dick in crazy, it's called risk assessment. If women are being told to choose better, it's viewed as victim blaming.

If women are working jobs or participate in activities deemed as dangerous, it's viewed as inspirational trailblazing. If men are working jobs or participate in activities deemed as dangerous, it's called "this is why woman live longer".

If women (or men for that matter) are interrupting and overexplaining to men, people call it nagging. If men are interrupting and overexplaining to women, people call it "mansplaining".

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u/Nefiji — 2 months ago
▲ 334 r/CityCrusherYT+7 crossposts

UA POV: “If men are allowed to leave, they'll mobilise women, and I don't think they should”. Some Ukrainian women are asked if the government should open the borders for men to be able to leave. They overwhelmingly disagree

u/Einherjeren — 2 months ago
▲ 570 r/StrongMaleSurvivors+4 crossposts

The hidden rape apologist...

For generations, society has propagated countless harmful myths around male rape victims… especially when the perpetrator is a woman.

The myth that he should have defended himself, that he encouraged it, or that such an experience has no significant impact on him.

And then, perhaps most concerning, is the idea that a man would enjoy such an experience at the hands of a woman, with many going as far as to consider him “lucky”.

As is the way, it is usually “other men” who are blamed for holding these harmful views, that transform men into some kind of perpetual f**k machine; who is always looking for sex, from anyone, at any given opportunity.

And yes, historically, this has sadly been true.

Nearly half of all sampled college men in 1984, believed a man found it “pleasurable” to be raped by a woman at gunpoint.

That is truly shocking.

But times change.

Men, as much as we refuse to admit it, have gone through a renaissance of sexual education; to better understand consent, and intimacy.

So much so, that of surveyed college men 35 years later, only 5.3% agreed that a man who is raped by a woman, finds such a thing ‘pleasurable’.

It’s still 5.3% too high, but it represents a staggering 89% drop, in just one generation.

But that’s not the end of the story, for this same study measured how women’s attitudes have changed over this same time, and, well, the results will shock you…

Let’s take a look.

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Full study here https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34978934/

u/Intelligent-Bird-313 — 3 months ago