u/SoPretty1908

So, as we all know by now, chatgpt has added lots of censoring to their model, and even flag user now. I am a dark romance writer and, of course, the genre contains NSFW scenes. Though I write out my stories on my own, I use chatgpt to help me organize and keep track of my chapters and scene outlines, but I need extra help and have major difficulty writing more explicit or violent scenes in detail. Obviously, I cannot do this in chatgpt without it turning very dull and robotic with little to no detail, or without risking my content getting flagged. Honestly, chatgpt is starting to get on my nerves and I don't want to pay $10-20 for it to "talk better". I already subscribe to a lot of other, more important services.

Are there any suggestions for AI chats that aren't so censored or not censored at all? I've heard of Dolphin 2.9.2 Mixtral 8x22B but it looks super complicated to download and access, I can't even understand what the instructions are as it uses a lot of technology and coding terms that are not for the average user to understand. (I really would like to try it out though, if someone can tell me how to use it). Are there any other sources? Preferably ONLINE ones that don't REQUIRE downloading?

Thank you.

So, as we all know by now, chatgpt has added lots of censoring to their model, and even flag user now. I am a dark romance writer and, of course, the genre contains NSFW scenes. Though I write out my stories on my own, I use chatgpt to help me organize and keep track of my chapters and scene outlines, but I need extra help and have major difficulty writing more explicit or violent scenes in detail. Obviously, I cannot do this in chatgpt without it turning very dull and robotic with little to no detail, or without risking my content getting flagged. Honestly, chatgpt is starting to get on my nerves and I don't want to pay $10-20 for it to "talk better". I already subscribe to a lot of other, more important services.

Are there any suggestions for AI chats that aren't so censored or not censored at all? I've heard of Dolphin 2.9.2 Mixtral 8x22B but it looks super complicated to download and access, I can't even understand what the instructions are as it uses a lot of technology and coding terms that are not for the average user to understand. (I really would like to try it out though, if someone can tell me how to use it). Are there any other sources? Preferably ONLINE ones that don't REQUIRE downloading?

Thank you.

I'm now towards the end of season 12 and Sonja is nearly unwatchable.

Something about her drunkness in this season seems...played up. She knows that's what she became known for; most of the commentary about her is her drunken antics. She became aware of this and dragged it out. The scene of her disrupting the house party with the girls at that man's house, the Halloween entrance rambling at Ramona, the argument about the cabaret show with Luann..it all sounded and felt like her acting more drunk than she really was. Her speech sounds like what people do to sound drunk; very child-like nonsense.

Now I am well aware that Sonja clearly has an obvious ongoing history of a bad relationship with alcohol and drinking, but come on now..something's gotta give.

Now I see why people say alcoholism was one of the main downfalls of RHONY. Sonja behaves like this is some entertaining, cute quirkiness about her, and it's really just embarrassing.

Also, I feel like they give Sonja a free pass because she's the wild, goofy, hot mess one. They had one season, I believe 8?, where they talked about it, but then they just let it go, and she continued to have drunk seasons, and it was pretty much ignored. No wonder they allowed Leah's insufferably drunk ass to continue with her antics! Because the show perpetuates that alcoholism is funny and acceptable, unhinged fun.

Sidenote: I also use the above statements when people talk about Karen Huger's return to RHOP. Since Bravo notoriously allowed all of the alcohol fueled antics on RHONY and followed Luanne's divorce to alcoholism (and other things, let's be frank) to prison to rehab storyline, why would they not allow Karen back on her show when she is also vowing to remain sober? Though none of their actions were okay at all, not defending or condoning what they did, but let's look at the minimum standard Bravo has regarding these HWs.

So when I first started RHONY, I found it quite slow and boring. The reunions were super entertaining though. They have some of the best RHW reunion discussions, I must say.

Everyone was right, the best seasons are absolutely 7/8-12. I am currently on 11 and I'm hooked!

Starting with some short lived HWs:

Alex- I wish she stayed. She would've been a great sounding board in some of the later seasons. She absolutely grew on me when she got a voice, and then she left right after :(

Aviva- Completely insufferable and highly annoying. What. A. HATER. She was just odd all the way around.

Jules- She too was odd to me, the cooking utensils into food and thinking it was funny...classic ED behavior. I feel like she told them/us just enough about her ED to make it seem like she was dealing with it fine and was so transparent, but there was multiple signs she was still fully engaging with it. Sad but also kinda..manipulative, in how she appraoched it...which also checks out with ED behavior.

Heather- She reminds me of Heather Gay...good at jumping in and being a friend but also extremely annoying and obnoxious in the best way lol

Kelly- good riddance. The severely mentally ill should not be on TV. But also her personality was absolutely grating to my nerves. I seriously got so upset watching how she talked about people, herself, and twisted everything unashamedly.

Now the OG's and longer lasting HWs:

Bethenny- Sorry but you can't make me hate Bethenny. lol She's my favorite. Such a boss bitch, quick-witted, sharp, smart, bitchy lol, "A Know It All" (love how that never bothered her btw lol bc same, thanks for the compliment). Team Bethenny 9x/10

Carole: She started off as such a snooze fest, and then showed her true colors. She's a wishy washy flip flopper. She has something to say about all her friends, and I already know she's about to turn on Tinsely and be nasty too. She gives opportunistic vibes. She goes with whatever friend she can have the most fun with at the time, and then when she gets what she needed out of the friendship, she bounces and then makes them an enemy. She also acts like she always had lowkey disliked them. Thats a red flag af in a person. Disloyal boring cringe wanna be tacky Carrie Bradshaw

Dorinda: I...lowkey really like Dorinda. She does get drunk and turn very mean and that's kinda alarming if that's your friend because damn..tell me how you really think and feel? I also know she gets worse so my feelings might change more. But I think she was a good addition to the cast. I also love her style and accent lol If I was a rich white woman, I'd want Bethenney's apartment and Dorinda's gucci style with the white blonde pixie cut and glam sun dresses LOL.

Sonja: Just a hot mess express. I find Sonja to be very child like and sloppy. It's okay for older women to still have their fun but ... get it togetheeer. She's like a 55 yr old teenager. I just don't take Sonja seriously whatsoever. NEXT

Luanne: She's such a Taurus lol Like she's not boring but she's kinda flat, she's kinda aloof, but also very involved, great one liners, delusional af lol I found her Tom story line quite odd. It was like a totally different Luanne; she was such a simp for Tom. "Be happy for me, I'm happy, I'm so in love, my soul mate, nobody is happy for me, are you all happy for me? I'm so happy, Tom." It was uncomfortable to see her so...desperate for love and marriage. I think she was still hurting or severely unsatisfied as a single woman. I also have a hard time with her divorce, to jail, to AA rehab storyline? Something is just kinda off about it, but maybe it's just a case of putting on so much face for the show that their real-life issues seem harder to believe or disjointed.

Ramona: I found Ramona to be entertaining until she just wasn't. She is BEYOND ERRATIC, and it's really uncomfortable to watch her dramatic scenes. She legit acts like she's high on pills. The weird speech, the bugged eyes, very twitchy mannerisms, etc. I think people though that made her funnier, but I'm noticing the same pattern we see in Dorinda when she drinks. Ramona is just overkill. The way she treats people is also very aloof and pretentious. She seems like a nightmare rich lady in real life. Just ignorant and rude.

Tinsely: old money trust fund nepo baby with not much going on. Barbie. That's it.

As a mental health professional, one of the most cringey, overused mental health-related labels is narcissist. Surprise, surprise, Courtney actually displays more narcissistic traits than Adam does. Adam is just self-absorbed. Courtney is neurotic and puts others down to make herself seem more valid. Even when she compliments Nick, she must sandwich it between a statement about herself that inadvertently puts him down, and a direct critique of who he is.

She cannot say one nice thing about Nick and that just be it. Even when she talks about him, she makes it about her. I find it so disgusting and alarming how comfortable she is when saying such shameful, embarrassing, and rude things, and does so as if they're facts or like those are just her valid feelings. No, they are criticisms, backhanded statements, and offensive.

"I'm looking at my phone wondering when he'll get the fuck off me" WHO SAYS THAT?! That was her "expressing what type of person she is and the lack of her affection," but again done in a rude way involving him. She could've said "I'm counting down the time because I have the need to escape" That would be her just talking about her own self.

"He doesn't need to be that thoughtful when he's the hottest guy in the room." When none of the conversation was about looks WHATSOEVER. She blurted that out and then asked Nik, "Are you serious right now??...wait, I'm digging myself into a hole right now." Textbook gaslighting fail. She said something offensive and tried to make it seem like Nick was doing the most for pointing out what she said.

"Okay guys, lets talk shit about Nick" Looking for his family to say something negative and passing it off as casual talk. Why would you want your family to talk shit instead of asking "Do you like him? What do you think?"

Her family also points out in several different ways that she's not an easy going person. "Rigid...picky...you knit pick" etc. RED FLAG

She's nooot a nice or bright person. She's insufferable.

Some of these people really need to get a grip.

I don't understand coming onto a show to jump head first into a marriage, but not ready to fortify or work on a relationship. This is Married At First Sight, not Roommates At First Sight.

Courteney and Caitlyn are highly annoying and I just can't.

I understand taking your time with physical intimacy and wanting to solidify a friendship first. Coo. Thaaats..kinda what we should strive to do in any relationship. But being standoffish, gossipy, and blaming your avoidant issues and unhealed relationship trauma on the person needing too much is just not fair.

Also Courteney says she's bored with him and want to do more, while also saying she needs space and wants to be independent and when she doesn't feel that way, she "might kill herself" ? Uhm...hello? Are you okay? LEGIT sounds like somebody who is not ready for marriage.

Caitlyn is so standoffish and kinda cold that it's really off putting to watch. It's odd because she said she's attracted to him and thought that she was matched well, but anytime intimacy (which does not automatically mean getting physical of course) or closeness or reciprocating wanting or romantic interest, she gets defensive and guarded. "I think she wants to miss me" How can you miss someone you don't have anything to miss about?? I don't think she should even be in serious relationships right now, with the way she's acting. She wants an attractive male buddy. Poor Gavin because he's not even coming off needy, pushy, or over the top. He's simply communicating his love language and what he'd like.

"This is the type of relationship I hate" Girl it's been a week and you say you've had all the bad relationships. Maybe its you? (not saying none of the guys she's dated has been terrible to her but it gets to a point where there's also a common denominator)

I love it when, at reunions, Andy chimes in and asks questions that show his disdain for a HW's actions or behavior. Especially if it was obviously controversial and they deflect from it, seem like they're in denial, or don't take accountability.

I've been randomly watching Potomac re-runs, trying to get through NYC, and just watched the season 15 when he stayed on Kelly Dodd's ass for her ignorance, RHORI reunion where he looks at Alicia upside her head because she's the dummy, when he just would NOT let up on Leanne Locken the entirrrre reunion, and I gotta say, sometimes Andy delivers, and when he does, it's great. You can tell when he's personally offended or fed up as well and I think that's a dog whistle for "you're treading on thin ice, don't get fired!" or hell he probably already made up his mind before the reunion to fire them lmao

I think he's kind of a stickler for HW social media as well. While some of yall Bravo fans think it doesn't matter what they do outside of the show, the network/production clearly would disagree. Everything they do on social media, is bound to be talked about amongst fans, which is the shows viewership, and is free game for coming up on the show and being talked about. Andy pays attention to that a lot I've noticed. I wonder if he'll get on Jo Ellen for her social media like he did Kell, especially if it comes up on the show since they're already filming season 2 right now.

Do y'all have any of your favorite Andy reunion moments where he's getting on an HW? What about moments where you felt he was being too mean or dragging it out?

Have you ever read a story with a humanoid shifter? I'm looking for stories with a shifter that doesn't turn into a wolf/lycan, dragon, demon, etc. I feel like this may be more common in omegaverse shifter romances. I have read something like it before, but only twice, and one of those stories is now deleted, and I can't remember the other.

I believe they turn into the "beast version" of themselves. Like they "swell up", get taller, bigger, broader, eyes change, and they become filled with power and/or rage. It doesn't have to be exactly this but I'm looking for more creative, abnormal, and unique shifter characters.

Does anybody know of characters like this? I am open to references on Wattpad and AO3 as well.

Thanks

Have you ever read a story with a humanoid shifter? I'm looking for stories with a shifter that doesn't turn into a wolf/lycan, dragon, demon, etc. I feel like this may be more common in omegaverse shifter romances. I have read something like it before, but only twice, and one of those stories is now deleted, and I cant remember the other.

I believe they turn into the "beast version" of themselves. Like they "swell up", get taller, bigger, broader, eyes change, and they become filled with power and/or rage.

Does anybody know of characters like this? I am open to references on Wattpad and AO3 as well.

NO HAREM/POLY!!!

Thanks

I feel like since last season, season 7, it's been a bit polarizing to see how Love Island contestants just instantly get overnight fame and brand deals immediately.

It's different than other reality tv. Even "more famous" Bravo Celebrities with huge fandoms aren't so quick to hop on some influencer, brand deal, mogul-type train.

I feel like on one hand it's a good thing for some of them! But on the other hand, it's kinda cringey and overdone, to be expected, etc. And then somewhere in the middle, it gives a disingenuous. I've read about and heard in smaller circles how people notice that usually most of the cast that comes on the show are either already chasing social media fame before the show, or work lowly jobs, so they come on this show for an easy route to fame. So in the future, that can weaken the pool of contestants because everybody will be on the show not looking for love fr, but just trying to have meme and gif moments, and/or make it to the end for brand deals.

Honestly, I see all sides of this lol.

What do yall think?

*This is just out of curiosity and for light hearted discussion.*

1. You post an opinion...the way Reddit is meant to be used...you don't cuss, use any slander, insults, get angry, etc. And still its:

- "its not that serious". Does something have to be so serious just to talk about?

- "You're giving your unsolicited opinion". ALL OF SOCIAL MEDIA IS UNSOLICITED. That's how it works.

- "get a life" bud, we are on the exact same website doing the exact same thing.

2. Post something and explain yourself, as normal, smart people do.

- "you wrote an entire essay". Meanwhile, your post is less than 500 words.

- "you went on and on and on" then DISENGAGE if your attention span is so low that you can't even read an explanation lol

- "its not that deep" These are condescending tactics to make people feel bad for having an opinion

3. Resorting to insults just because you disagree...and coincidentally the insult applies to the commenter more than who they're directing it to lol

- "anyone who agrees with this shit is a loser". "you're just a bitch for thinking that"...dude.. ITS NOT THAT DEEP lol

4. Getting mad at the sheer fact that someone is talking about something in a post, yet the topic at hand is actually horrible.

- people will be ANGRY that you posted about a racist homophobe that's on tv, but have nothing to say about the racism or homophobia lmao. you're the problem for talking about it.

-people will cuss you out for daring to share a political opinion and call you miserable....aren't miserable people the ones that sit on social media and cuss people out just for speaking?

5. Going through your comment and post history from months and months ago, to repost it in the comments to somehow "shame" or "out" you?

- it's so funny how every time this happens, it's someone who hides 100% of their profile.

- if my content history is pulblic, that means you're not revealing anything by reposting it lol profiles are usually public when they have nothing to hide.

- to go away from a post, and scroll for minutes and minutes and minutes reading everything somebody posted is very telling. that's still considered stalking someone's page due to the amount of energy and time you put into going through their posts because you're mad.

- You immediately lose any credibility or argument when you do that. That shows that you had such little to say that you resorted to going off topic, from 6 months ago.

As a mental health professional, I am truly appalled by the rise of armchair diagnosing and misuse of psychological terms. You do not sound smarter or more socially aware by overusing and misusing terms like narcissist, OCD, psychopath, deranged, bipolar, mentally ill, anti-social, mentally unstable, autistic, etc.

8x/10 when I see these words used, directed at someone's behavior, or as some attempt to psychoanalyze celebrities and social figures online, they're used completely wrong and it shows that people STILL don't understand mental health the way they think they do.

After COVID, there was a rise in mental health awareness, given the crisis a lot of countries were in due to the pandemic. However, it seems to have taken a turn and now it's giving "faux awareness".

Unique personalities and quirks do not mean autism. Collecting items is not a sole indicator of autism. A change in mood is not bipolar, AT ALL. Yelling and being angry do not mean being deranged. Being selfish does not equal narcissism. To be a loner means to be asocial, not anti-social. To truly be literate in mental health, you would actually know not to use psychological terms and diagnoses in a casual manner. This also creates negative stigma around certain illnesses because the colloquial understanding of the word has overtaken the true meaning of real diagnoses.

A lot of times, people just don't like someone, lol, it doesn't mean you have to poorly "psychoanalyze" someone's behavior to make a point.

I'm just wondering, given the following:

1. She has gracefully departed from the show.
2. Alicia showing her "true colors" in regards to her finances and how she threw her fiance under the bus for a self-victimizing storyline
3. The recent discovery of Jo Ellen's bigoted social and politically driven "interests".. (not her solely being Republican, clearly. But the things she reposted, liked, etc. that were very nasty)
4. I've seen some comments here and there mentioning Liz in hindsight.

I am not asking if people excuse her angry behavior. But just curious to see, given the aforementioned points, if this gives some people more insight on maybe why she viewed or reacted to some of the ladies the way she did. I also remember when people were curious about what she meant by "threatening" Jo Ellen (Don't start with..I will __, etc." Plenty of people speculated that she was alluding to revealing some of Jo Ellen's skeletons...I wonder if what has been recently revealed were some of them lol (as in, she's a homophobe, she's racist, Liz might have dirt on her about other things, etc.)

Again, this is just out of curiosity.

1. Almost every single one of the ladies are annoying in their own way. Even the "favorite" of the core fan base, Alicia, showed her true colors at the reunion.
2. ALL OF THEM ARE MAGA except 1 maybe 2 of them. They are already getting exposed for aligning themselves with pretty deplorable people and rhetorics. Financially funding an extremely problematic oompa loompa, previously posting themselves at rallies, liking very nasty homophobic, pro-Isreal, and other horrible things, etc. AND THEN instead of addressing it, they turn off comments. I think these are implications of what we could possibly expect to see in the future; blatant ignorance from certain housewives and then people acting "shocked".Very Leanne. Very Jennie. Very Jenny. Very Jill. Very DALLAS.
3. The cast, even considering the rumored new additions, is very homogenous and not diverse whatsoever.

Honorable mention: I think production tried to amp up entertainment by casting a bunch of messy women who are all intertwined in some way, but that's proving to be almost overkill. The stalking, the affairs, the felonious drug allegations, etc. Sounds very entertaining but we're already one down and there's more to come lol

If they don't get canceled pretty early on, I think they'll get a reboot or recastings, maybe a few canceled / fired HWs

EDIT: This is my overall prediction of what's to come. This is happening this early on, after only 1 season, and the core fan base seems to be pretty up in arms about it, and we've seen in the past where ignorance has led to multiple canceled/fired HWs, reboots, recasts, etc. The points I listed are reasons why I see things going south for the cast.

I also listed more than just MAGA. i ADORE how that's the main and only point making so many people so mad lmfaooo :)

Mind yall...yall are defending disgustingly homophobic, transphobic, racist, pro ICE, and crooked political campaign donators, just to call ME ridiculous over a show lmao THE JOKES WRITE THEMSEEEELVES I swear. "There's other bad HWs!" OKAY AND I DON'T LIKE THEM EITHEEEER lmfaoooo

One of the dark romance QUEENS, Amethyst Moon, the author of His Dark Mercy, just finished The Irish's Sanity on Wattpad. PLEASE go read it before she takes it down so she can publish it. It'll probably be up for a few more weeks.

This book is extremely dark! Lachlan is probably the coldest, sociopathic, void of empathy, bad guys stay bad MMC I've ever read. He's a hot ass Irish Mafia (whatever that is lol) all powerful, totally obsessed, "in love", stone cold man.

Isla goes to visit a friend in Ireland, has a sexy romp one night, and catches the attention of Lachlan, which is all it takes for her to be claimed in all ways by him. It's one of the few dark romances that actually managed to get physical and verbal reactions from me.

"Lets see you fly." IYKYK! *bangs on table!*

The following tropes included:

mafia, OTT, cruel hero, toxic abuse, violence, dark love, blood, kidnap, forced proximity, touch her (speak to her) and DIE a BRUTAL death, manipulation, dub con, guilded cage, some torture, slight age gap but not important, interracial romance, pregnancy (way later in the book, but it's still fucked up), FMC tries to resist, run, fight back...does not work at all, near death experience....so much happens in this book yo..

I feel like listing the tropes doesn't even do the book justice.

It's also a long read

Honestly, if you need any convincing to read this story, please allow me to lol

GO READ IT!

Okay, so over time, omegaverse and shifter lore has been creatively added to, shifted, etc. But I'm starting to get confused about where it's headed and it what it means to different readers. I'm curious. What is your favorite era of omegaverse / shifter lore, or what is your favorite version of the lore?

Listed below is my understanding of some of this:

1. Right before there was omegaverse, instead of Alphas and Omegas, there was Dominants and Submissives; genetic and biological categories, not BDSM related. Doms were volatile, aggressive, prone to rage and/or shift, and extremely protective! Subs were gentle, super emotionally sensitive, highly regarded, well protected, etc. I typically saw this in either vampire fanfic or werewolf romance. Humans were non shifters and excluded from this.
2. Werewolf and Lycan lore has ALWAYS had Alphas, Betas, and Omegas. It was a pack social rank thing, rather than a biological category. Alphas are the leaders, betas are the warriors/right-hand men, omegas were either the rest of the pack, or omegas were lowly and undervalued members of the pack.
3. Then Omegaverse was created, which is a combo of the above two points, and on MY end, I saw it bloom in shifter romances. I am JUST NOW learning about Dean Winchester on AO3? But I know for a fact there's plenty of us who remember it the other way, being the start of omegaverse.
4. Now, fast forward to today, omegaverse is EXTREMELY saturated with polyamory and reverse harem. And packs are just 3-4 ppl groups of fuck buddies. That's literally not what a pack is. There's nothing wrong with those tropes in general, but for me and some other ov fans, it seems soooo odd compared to how omegaverse started. Because the lore of OV and shifter romances with fated mates doesn't really "allow" for so much poly, due to the nature of the beings. They're super protective, "mine, mine, mine!", blessed by the gods with a one true mate, extremely territorial, etc.

It's hard for me to find a non poly/harem/why choose OV story and I hate that. No shame to the tropes themselves, but within this realm of things, it's so disjointed for me.

I'm curious to hear feedback on this.

Also, please feel free to provide any OV or shifter book suggestions that follow the "original" lore I mentioned above lol I'm craving it really bad! I love Wattpad and KU, still trying to like AO3 lol

Okay, so over time, omegaverse and shifter lore has been creatively added to, shifted, and combined. But I'm starting to get confused about where it's headed and it what it means to different readers. Particularly, the change in the concepts of packs, fated mates, and biological assignments. I'm curious. What is your favorite era of omegaverse / shifter lore, or what is your favorite version of the lore? *We are keeping this in modern-day context. I am not talking about the origins of werewolves and shifters, alone. We would be going all the way back to the 1st century if that were the case. I'm talking about the origins of omegaverse and it's overlap with shifter lore*

Listed below is my understanding of some of this:

1. Right before there was omegaverse, instead of Alphas and Omegas, there was Dominants and Submissives; genetic and biological categories, not BDSM related. Doms were volatile, aggressive, prone to rage and/or shift, and extremely protective! Subs were gentle, super emotionally sensitive, highly regarded, well protected, etc. I typically saw this in either vampire fanfic or werewolf romance. Humans were non shifters and excluded from this.
2. Werewolf and Lycan lore has ALWAYS had Alphas, Betas, and Omegas. It was a pack social rank thing, rather than a biological category. Alphas are the leaders, betas are the warriors/right-hand men, omegas were either the rest of the pack, or omegas were lowly and undervalued members of the pack.
3. Then Omegaverse was created, which is a combo of the above two points, and on MY end, I saw it bloom in shifter romances. I am JUST NOW learning about Dean Winchester on AO3? And somehow people think that's the very start of omegaverse? Is it just that simple?? I know for a fact that there's plenty of us who remember it the other way, being the start of omegaverse.
4. Edit: So Omegaverse as its own niche thing, completely separate from shifters, originated in Supernatural fan fiction. Not the inner concepts. Got it.
5. Now, fast forward to today, omegaverse is EXTREMELY saturated with polyamory and reverse harem. And packs are just 3-4 ppl groups of fuck buddies. That's quite frankly, not what a pack was, in the usual, previous understanding of a pack. A pack is a large group of people with societal standards and norms. A mini society even. There's nothing wrong with those tropes in general, but for me and some other ov fans, it seems soooo odd compared to how omegaverse started. Because the older lore of OV and shifter romances with fated mates doesn't really "allow" for so much poly, due to the nature of the beings. They're super protective, "mine, mine, mine!", blessed by the gods with a one true mate, extremely territorial, etc. So it's interesting to see where OV is going with all of this.

It's hard for me to find a non poly/harem/why choose OV story and I hate that. No shame to the tropes themselves, but within this realm of things, it's so disjointed for me.

I'm curious to hear feedback on this.

This is just casual and curious banter, not about getting super technical. A lot of ppl still ask about omegaverse lore or just don't understand it. This is me just gathering more details as a long time shifter romance lover.

Also, please feel free to provide any OV or shifter book suggestions that follow the "original" lore I mentioned above lol I'm craving it really bad! I love Wattpad and KU, still trying to like AO3 lol

It really saddens me that lately omegaverse has turned into a subgenre of fuck fests and mostly poly romance when it originally wasn't like that at all. I just want some juicy good omegaverse with mates, perhaps pack society, M/F, M/M, or F/F. It's hard to find OG Omegaverse, is basically what I'm saying.

I also miss when omegaverse was for shifters or paranormal beings. Even if they are human adjacent, thats fine too, but please no modern day human A/B/O set up. (I could care less about Alpha CEOs and stupid hockey shit) It isn't a super requirement but I LOVE werewolf/Lycan omegaverse.

I'm looking for yearning, very intense romance, dark elements, and "traditional" omegaverse AU/settings like a primal environment, packs, fated mates, barbarianism, volatile Alphas, submissive/gentle Omegas, etc.

I'd love if pregnancy and/or breeding is in the story as well please. It's like a pretty bow on top in OV lol

Please NO Addison Cain and Zoey Ellis.

No extreme BDSM and sex dungeons please.

I'm okay with pretty much everything else. I love age gaps, interracial, cruel hero, sunshine x grumpy, saved omega, dub con, some non con...all the good stuff lol

thank yooou :)

It really saddens me that lately omegaverse has turned into a subgenre of fuck fests and poly romance when it originally wasn't like that at all. I just want some juicy good omegaverse with mates, perhaps pack society, M/F, M/M, or F/F. (mpreg is fine too. I'm not new to this, I'm true to this)

I also miss when omegaverse was for shifters or paranormal beings. It isn't a super requirement but I LOVE werewolf/Lycan omegaverse. Even if they are human adjacent, thats fine too, but please no current, modern day human A/B/O set up. I don't want Alpha CEOs in the city lol

I'm looking for yearning, very intense romance, dark elements, and "traditional" omegaverse AU/settings like a primal environment, packs, fated mates, barbarianism, volatile Alphas, submissive/gentle Omegas, etc.

I'd love if pregnancy and/or breeding is in the story as well please. It's like a pretty bow on top in OV lol

Please NO Addison Cain and Zoey Ellis.

No cheating, no academia, no extreme BDSM and sex dungeons please.

I'm okay with pretty much everything else. I love age gaps, interracial, cruel hero, sunshine x grumpy, saved omega, dub con, some non con...all the good stuff lol

thank yooou :)

I am sick of the same old OV writers getting suggested, Addison Cain and Zoey Ellis.

I also miss when omegaverse was for shifters or paranormal beings. Even if they are human adjacent, thats fine too, but please no modern day human A/B/O set up. It isn't a super requirement but I LOVE werewolf/Lycan omegaverse.

I'm looking for yearning, very intense romance, dark elements, and "traditional" omegaverse AU/settings like a primal environment, packs, fated mates, barbarianism, volatile Alphas, submissive/gentle Omegas, etc.

I'd love if pregnancy and/or breeding is in the story as well please. It's like a pretty bow on top in OV lol

PLEASE NO HAREMS. I am soooo sick of omegaverse just being about fuck fests. Give me plot, relationships, the whole shebang!

No cheating, no academia, no extreme BDSM and sex dungeons please.

I'm okay with pretty much everything else. I love age gaps, interracial, cruel hero, sunshine x grumpy, saved omega, dub con, some non con...all the good stuff lol

thank yooou :)