I wonder why Mike provides clues to the name Cassidy but not supposed "Evan" or "Dave"🤔

This video proposed that Stan regaining memories meant Bill also returned in Stan’s mind. And that was kinda confirmed in thisisnotawebsitedotcom. If you enter "Stan" many times and click many times on "How he beat me", you will eventually get Bill claiming that he is still on Stanley’s mind. And if you type the phrase in the computer, it will show Stan on Stan-O-War.

Fun fact: this was the some of only MatPat theories I watched for a long time, and it was translated on another language when I did as a little kid. It brings a tear of nostalgia and satisfaction that MatPat was right on this one, especially since now I now fully know who MatPat is and like him and his old videos a ton. You know, I kinda always knew that this confirmed old Gravity Falls video I watched in childhood, this year figured out that the video belonged to MatPat, but somehow only now realized "wait this means MatPat was right". Takes a while to make 2+2+2 huh.

LB is said to be a username of Nicholas who works for Clickteam on Clickteam website.

I.e., it’s no different from Character Encyclopedia "confirming" BVDreamer. It’s just what Clickteam added either as their own interpretation or for translators. Not to give us lore and confirms names.

Honestly, this should’ve been obvious from the start by the very fact that it was put in comments and only mobile ports and not original PC ones.

And by "ACTUALLY" I mean active important role, not a "he is there so Cassidy can farm some juicy characterization off of him" or "he is just there to be put back together by Cassidy so she and others can have their Happiest Day" etc., but a real role where he HIMSELF actively does something major and important.

It's really hard to write about children in general... I don't even know if I did it right, lol.

Artist of Charlie and BV sprites - https://www.deviantart.com/admin472/gallery?q=Michael

After BV fans decided to make him more plot-relevant, now many people who hate on it start slandering and saying stuff like "No no you see... BV was meant to be the receiver, the only spirit in Golden Freddy, TOYSNHK. Other characters? What nonsense are you talking about?”
Gng, FoxyBro and Cassidy have MUCH less confirmed explicit on screen things about them, and they have WAY more roles, but apparently when BV has many roles it is an issue. Despite the entirety of FNaF 4 minigames being devoted to him, and FNaF World at the very least repeating the exact same thing said to him, which means he is probably logically important since Scott focused on him so much, but nooo, BV theories bad and greedy, FoxyBro and Cassidy theories good and peak.

Plushtrap Kid is basically a recolor of BV (same shirt and pants style, same head and arms shape, and especially the curl on the forehead), so I think it’s kinda funny that he holds Plushtrap since with BVTOYSNHK it’s similar to how BV holds William (Springtrap) in UCN.

Definitely not intended but it’s a fun detail.

Even the big analysis from u/GINTAMAZZZZZZ alone is worth a ton, hell yeah

On this page in Logbook, Faded asks BV, "Do you miss them?" While "them" by itself is very vague and could refer to BV's plushies, the big elephant in the room is the text on the page itself. It talks about "accident" which involves "being stuffed inside an animatronic suit". Since the most fitting to this situation are MCI kids, who died and were stuffed into animatronic suits.

I know that one can counter-argue that the Faded's question does not have to do anything with the rest of the page. However, we do this for the other questions; for example, "does he still talk to you?" also has vague "he", but everyone seems to accept that it refers to Fredbear Plush, as the same page features to Fredbear Plush (and this is also always used by everyone to debunk AlteredDavid, for example). So the question is: how do you refute this if you do not believe in BVMCIFriends?

This is also hard to reconcile for me, since I believe CC had no friends during life as he is shown to be very socially isolated and having literal plushies as his friends. (And more importantly, the fact that he calls them friends but not anyone else) So, whaddya say?

Whenever you mention that Faded explicitly tells BV "the party was for you", almost every BVReceiver denier always says, "Well, Faded used past tense so BV doesn't have to be Receiver in the future party!" But looking at the context, it is on the page that specifically talks about planning a party, and VERY SPECIFICALLY written in the section of people to that are to be invited. BV needs to "find the pieces" to "rest" in FNaF World, therefore him being "invited" to the party makes uttermost sense. With fanon Cassidy though, not at all, if she is the organizer of it, this doesn't work, self-invitation sounds weird, and in the HD itself, she is not "invited": she is already standing there. And unlike with BV, who can be interpreted as invited there through FW as I said above, fanon Cassidy has nothing suggesting invitation.

(Also, this HD connection makes me want to return to FadedCharlie lol)

Decided to do something unconventional today hehe. Idk if I cooked or not, but hope this can be fun.

Like, whenever MikeVictim is brought up on the table, most of the time the biggest counterargument is “where is FoxyBro then?”, “boo, this makes FoxyBro irrelevant”, “why is FoxyBro just a plot device?”, etc.

But whenever someone (including me) points out how mainstream theories just sideline BV to be a nothing-character that does nothing and is at best used as an object by/for the other characters (e.g. GoldenDuo which is really just GoldenCassidy + BV hanging around and doing nothing like a bum for 40+ years, or ShatterVictim which makes it even worse, and use HDMemories as "well his memories are used for HD!!!" while he himself does nothing and LogbookDuo/MikeBro to make him a plot device for Cassidy’s characterization/Michael’s motive), the responses are often “well everyone in FNaF is plot device”, “meh nothing says he is very important anyways”, “Scott can’t write”, “it’s cuz Cassidy is more important”, etc.

The thing is, when you remove all unconfirmed theories: they both appear ONLY in FNaF 4 minigames. Within them, BV is a protagonist, while FoxyBro is a side character. Heck, even the whole "plot device" is really applicable to FoxyBro within minigames, since he is really only used to end every minigame and cause BV's death. That's it. He has much less screen time than BV and Fredbear Plush. BV is the one the minigames heavily focus on and detail over. And out of the two, BV is the character that has an explicit cliffhanger and a huge hint within the minigames to be important beyond FNaF 4 ("I will put you back together" implies that he will, in some form, return), while "I'm sorry", which can be argued to be a cliffhanger and hint of return, are not as explicit as BV's. So for a moment, think about it: what does FoxyBro have over BV in FNaF 4 that we think he MUST be important and do something while BV's importance and agency are a "maybe"?

So yeah, if I had to pick who is irrelevant and to be sidelines out of the two, I would definitely choose FoxyBro than BV. That’s not to say that FoxyBro has to be sidelined, but he definitely does not deserve plot relevance more and agency more than the Crying Child.

Decided to finally make this Ultra-Massive post, enjoy!😃

For a while now whenever I bring up that I don't think GoldenMCI is true in the games, I am always met with tons of replies saying:

>"What?? But Fanon-Cassidy and GoldenMCI is literally confirmed, It's indisputable, what are you even talking about??"

And each and every time I have to go over the same reasons why I don't think it's the case, I end up having to repeat myself dozens of times to dozens of people. And as it's such a fundamental and massive topic too, I never have time to do the whole topic justice with just 1 simple little reply either.

So with this post I'll go through the Scott era games start to finish and going over all the reasons why I don't think Fanon-Cassidy exists or that there is a GoldenMCI victim personally.

I'll also be going over several counter-arguments I have heard and going over my big problems with all of them

And also at the end go over all the questions I would have against GoldenMCI, and after reading the post you can feel free to offer up your answers to those objections :)

1. FNAF1 - The mysterious beginning of Golden Freddy

FNAF1 was originally intended as a stand-alone game and a stand-alone self contained story, this detail will end up being very important regarding how we are meant to use FNAF1 in the broader original 1-4 story.

As we are first introduced to Golden Freddy in FNAF1, where he is this mysterious teleporting vanishing ghostly entity, completely different from the other 4 characters, for some reason.

And something many people do when looking at FNAF1 in isolation, is thinking about how the newspaper said 5 children reported missing, yet we only have 4 haunted animatronic characters.

And therefore making the natural-assumption that Golden Freddy is haunted by the 5th kid then.

This is a natural-assumption to make when only looking at FNAF1 as it's own isolated story with no further games or story in mind. But it is still just an assumption, and an assumption that would go onto be challenged by the next couple of games in the story.

And because this was originally meant as a self-contained story with none of the further story in mind, quite a lot of natural-assumptions from this game would go onto turn out to be completely wrong when Scott further fleshed out the story with FNAF2-4, here's a number of examples:

• FNAF1 says the killer was "convicted" and presumably jailed right after the MCI many years ago, and as he is never brought up again, we could naturally-assume he is in jail now
• FNAF1 says Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, the location we are currently working in, has been struggling to stay in business ever since the MCI happened many years ago, and will first now finally close, it has been open since the MCI all the way until today and will finally close down first now
• FNAF1 says Freddy Fazbear's Pizza is just this local town family restaurant, that has been open for decades, and finally will now close down now, only 1 local family restaurant
• FNAF1 only mentions 5 childrens deaths presumed in relation to Freddy's over its history
• FNAF1 bite of 87 candidates is presumed to be one of the 5 characters, as there only exists 5 characters after all
• Golden Freddy has to be 1 of 5 reported missing children, as we only know of 5 dead kids and 5 haunted characters

All of these natural-assumptions would go onto be wrong and changed:

• The killer was never actually convicted, and would go onto do even more crimes
• The original MCI location was retconned to actually close down shortly after the MCI, then the FNAF2 location would open up, and then close down, and then the original MCI location would re-opn again as the FNAF1 location and then now close again. Instead of it being 1 continous operation it was retconned into there being 2 previous closings already
• Instead of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza just being this 1 local town family restaurant open from the MCI until today, it actually had multiple locations over the years with the introduction of the FNAF2 location
• There ends up no longer just being 5 children deaths in the story, but instead now even more
• There are now no longer just 5 candidates for the bite of 87 either, as there were several more characters we didn't know of yet
• The natural assumption of Golden Fredy being one of the 5 reported missing kids is put into question, as there's not just 5 dead children anymore, and not just 5 haunted characters either, making the "1:1 reasoning" no longer hold up as something that can be considered "confirmed" as it no longer holds up

But even with the natural-assumption of Golden Freddy being one of the MCI kids no longer being confirmed, one thing that was also first introduced in this game too with Golden Freddy, is that he is different and seperate from the other 4, for some reason.

He is something distinctly different from the other 4, as he is this secret entity that can teleport and is weird and ghostly unlike all the other 4, and that was always the intention. But the "why?" was something Scott seemingly hadn't come up with yet. As in an old FNAF1 interview, when he was asked:

>"What's the story behind Golden Freddy?"

He said that not even he himself can explain what Golden Freddy is.

>"Sometimes things just 'happen' during the game making process. I can't explain Golden Freddy."

Which may imply not even Scott knew the reason at the time why Golden Freddy is seperate and something different from the other 4.

To quickly go over the stuff we have so far;

1: The reasoning of "There's just 5 dead kids, and 5 haunted characters, meaning Golden Freddy has to be 1 of them" doesn't hold up anymore as those premises are no longer true as there's more than 5 dead kids and more than 5 haunted characters

2. Just because something was a natural-assumption during FNAF1, does not mean it ended up being correct in the broader 1-4 story. As many of the FNAF1 natural-assumptions would go onto be completely changed/wrong with FNAF2-4

3. Golden Freddy was always meant to be different and seperate from the other 4, for some reason. A reason Scott likely may have not thought of yet at the time, only having him be a mystery to expand upon in a potential next game, like he said bite of 87 was for example.

2. FNAF2 - The beginning of the broader story

As FNAF1 was meant as a self-contained game and story, whenwhen Scott made FNAF2 he now had to think more throughly through what he wanted the story to be and where it's headed and how it will end and so on. This is the beginning of the expansion of the story, and probably where he began generally figuring out things like:

• Why is Golden Freddy different?
• I have decided the killer is still around, how will his story end?
• How will the posessed animatronics story end?
• What is the history of this world? (Fredbear's, a previous 1987 FNAF2 location)

So this is where we can begin to more strongly assume Scott is getting a better grasp on what the broader story is meant to be and the answers to the mysteries and the lore of the world. For example what the mystery behind Golden Freddy is and why he is different and seperate. As we do begin to learn a fair bit more about him in this game.

But first we need to go over another very important character who was introduced in this game, the Puppet. As despite this character not originally being part of the FNAF1 story of the original reported missing kids, Scott ended up retoactively making this an incredibly important character to that story.

As it turned out the Puppet was also killed in relation to the original Freddy's too like the other original victims. And not only that but it was the one that gave the core-4 their life too.

So now we have this other 6th haunted character, who is posessed by a 6th child who also died in relation to the original Freddy's.

Which then ends up creating a big and very interesting conundrum.

As in FNAF1 in relation to the original location, we were specifically told there was just 1 "the tragedy" of 5 children total.

• "Five children now reported missing .. has been fighting an uphill battle ever since .. It’s a tragedy."
• "After a long struggle to stay in business after the tragedy that took place there many years ago"

Yet now apparently, we have a 6th murdered kid in relation to the original restaurant, seemingly contradicting what FNAF1 says.

As there wasn't 2 tragedies, or 6 victims. It was only "the tragedy" of 5 victims

So if the Puppet and the core-4 were all killed in relation to the original Freddy's. This would put into question whether Golden Freddy was too.

As the real only reason we thought he was, was because we took a guess that because we only know of 5 haunted characters and 5 victims at the original Freddy's, he is one of them.

Well, right now we have a 6th haunted character the Puppet, as a victim at the original Freddy's too, and we know the core-4 was victims here too. That makes up all the 5 victims. There wasn't 6 victims, and not 2 tragedies either at the original Freddy's.

So now not only is the core-reason of 5:5 for thinking Golden Freddy is part of the 5 victims gone, but his role as the 5th victim has been seemingly replaced by another victim.

Golden Freddy then ends up as something seperate from the others then.

Which then puts forward the question, well, who and what is Golden Freddy then?

We don't fully know yet during FNAF2, but we learn a couple more things about him in this game, as we are also introduced in this game to an even earlier restaurant than Freddy's named "Fredbear's", the origin location of Golden Freddy, which we are told here closed down for some reason, something seemingly happened there, which would be seperate from Freddy's.

Meaning there exists seemingly a seperate incident from the MCI even earlier at Fredbear's, which caused Fredbear's to close down.

People at the time thought what caused it to close down was the Puppets death, but now as we know that was never the case, that means Scott had something else in mind for what closed down Fredbear's during this time, the origin location of Golden Freddy.

3. Give Gifts and Give life - the 4 lured victims🎁

The 4 victims need help! Help them!

In this minigame we will find another example of Golden Freddy being something distinctly different and seperate from the others.

In GGGL, we start out as the Puppet, the 1st victim. And there are 4 victims framed together, that need help. And were told to Help Them.

We give each of the 4 victims a gift. As there's only 4 victims here.

Then after that, we begin giving all of the 4 victims life. There still just being 4 victims framed together needing help.

But, then at the very last frame, an extra kid Teleports into the room, and this kid didn't need to be given life like the others, and is treated as something different from the other 4, for some reason.

Here Golden Freddy is again framed as being seperate from the others, he is not framed with the 4 others, he is instead something seperate that Teleports into the room, and as he didn't need life, seemingly is already posessing super-natural abilities.

In short what this minigame shows us about Golden Freddy is:

• He is framed as something distinctly different than the 4 others, for some reason
• He was not given life, and didn't need to be given life either, for some reason
• And may have then already existed even before them

I have seen some try to argue that:

>"No he is just like the other 4 there, there is no distinction made"

But this ends up ignoring that Scott did distinctly make Golden Freddy not framed like the other 4 here, but instead having to Teleport into the room, specifically framing him as different and seperate in some way from what the 4 others are.

During FNAF6 too when the screen showing the actual event of GGGL being shown again, there is just 4 victims there.

Very clearly, regardless of what you may think the reason is, Golden Freddy is framed as being distinctly different and seperate from the 4 others there, for some reason.

4. The Bite on a Birthday, 87

One interesting thing we learn about Golden Freddy in this game many overlook, is his connection to a "Birthday" and "bite" being first introduced in this game. From FNAF3 we know Golden Freddy is tied to a birthday during Happiest Day, but it was interestingly already hinted at in FNAF2.

As interestingly on the 6th night, which is the one and only night Golden Freddy appears in the game. Phone guy mentions how there is just one last event left before the place shuts down, a Birthday party, the birthday party where the Bite of 87 takes place.

And from the bite of 87 easter egg in FNAF1, we do know Golden Freddy has some relation to the bite of 87, also further because of FNAF4.

So Golden Freddy first becoming active on the day where there will be a Birthday party, and seemingly having some relation to a bite happening on a birthday party. Is very interesting.

We learn that the Golden Freddy spirit:

• Becomes active in relation to a Birthday, and has some relation to a birthday
• And it has some relation to influencing / causing the bite on a birthday, for some reason, maybe even having done the same on a birthday in the past ;)

These seeds of Golden Freddy's relation to a Birthday and Bite are already sown in FNAF2, which we end up seeing be confirmed true in FNAF3 and FNAF4.

4. Introduction of Fredbear's Family Diner

In this game too Scott introduces the origin location of Golden Freddy, Fredbear's.

A mysterious location which Golden Freddy comes from, which closed for unknown reasons we don't know of yet during FNAF2, but something seemingly happened there even prior to the MCI and seperate.

Giving us a possible speculation at the time, that maybe "Fredbear" is Golden Freddy, and this is Golden Freddy's origin location and potentially where this seperate Golden Freddy spirit comes from, which we will get further elaboration on later.

5. FNAF2 Custom night implications

In the custom night for FNAF2 Scott grouped the old withereds together, and the new toy animatronics together, yet he decided not to group Golden freddy with the other withereds, instead seperating him again, and also during FNAF World too interestingly enough.

Seperate from the others during FNAF World too :D

And in the 20/20/20/20 mode he is also excluded with the Puppet instead being active

He is also in the "Night of Misfits" directly calling out how he is not like the other 4

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So to quickly update and continue to go over what we learn in this game about Golden Freddy:

• His main reasoning for being considered one of the 5 victims, the 5:5 reasoning, has now been put into question, as there was an actual other victim which wasn't him who was killed in relation to the original Freddy's. And he might be disqualifed from the group as to not contradict what FNAF1 stated
• GGGL shows us that for some reason, he is something distinctly seperate and different from the 4 victims shown there, giving us another example of him being seperate for some reason
• We get our first hints that he comes from an even older restaurant named Fredbear's Family Diner, seemingly the origin place of Golden Freddy, which closed down for some reason, and if there was some incident, would be an indicent seperate and prior to the MCI
• And our first hints that Golden Freddy has something to do with a Birthday Party and a Bite
• In the custom night menu he is seperate from the other withereds, not grouped wth them, being another example of him being something seperate and different (He is also completely seperate in FNAF World too btw)

6. FNAF 3 - The conclusion to the Golden Freddy spirit's story

With FNAF1 Scott made a self-contained story, and in FNAF2 he went back in time in that story and made a prequel to expand and build upon that story to really create the broader multiple-game story he now wanted to tell. With then FNAF3 being the answer to where the story goes after FNAF1 and being its sequel, and the conclusion to the story.

In FNAF3 we learn quite a bit more about the Golden Freddy spirit, and get what was meant as the conclusion to his story in the original 1-4 story. And this game continues the trend of seperating the Golden Freddy spirit as being something seperate.

7. Follow Me - The 4 luring victims, and the mysterious 5th

The Follow Me minigames shows us each 1 of the 4 animatronic victims who were once lured by William to the safe-room and murdered, being now lured to the safe-room yet again by Shadow Freddy and then dismantled by Purple guy.

First Freddy is lured, and then dismantled. Then Bonnie is lured and dismantled. Then Chica is lured and dismantled. And then lastly the 4th one, Foxy is lured and dismantled.

The 4 being lured, only 4 luring victims

After Purple guy has lured and dismantled all his 4 luring victims. A mysterious 5th spirit appears in the building in front of the main stage.

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And unlike the other 4, this mysterious 5th spirit is not lured at all, but instead willingly goes to the safe-room, walking past the broken parts of the 4 victims, and confronts Purple guy, standing in front of the 4 who were lured.

What's really interesting about this, is unlike the other core-4 victims, whoever this 5th spirit is, was not lured unlike the others. I personally think this is the Puppet spirit, but even if we were to say this is the Golden Freddy spirit, that he was not lured like the 4 victims, would again show he is something completely seperate from the 4.

Henry says in FNAF6 too that during the follow me minigames, purple guy lured ALL the luring victims again, meaning there was only 4 victims lured.

As they were 4 all lured to the safe-room and killed, and this act was repeated again in Follow Me.

Yet this 5th spirit, Golden Freddy or Puppet, was not lured at all, unlike the other 4, again seperating them from the other 4.

Some people have tried arguing that:

>"Maybe the 5th spirit was just lured off screen for some reason and Scott didn't include it"

First of all this is just a hypothetical assumtion, and it goes against what the minigame actually shows us.

But the 2nd problem with this too is Scott would have really no reason not to show us that, as the whole reason why he is showing us this was to show the luring victims being tragically and sadly lured again, so excluding the most important one doesn't really make sense to me personally if he is just like them.

Then too we are told in UCN the core-4 are like animals and not as aware, making them easily be able to be lured, and we assume Golden Freddy is more lucid and aware than the others, so him being lured just like the other 4 doesn't quite make sense to me either

Another problem too is the fact that we don't even know if Golden Freddy can be dismantled just like the 4 others, as unlike the other 4 who easily can be dismantled as they are just physical animatronics walking around and can be attacked, Golden Freddy is in-part seemingly a ghostly entity who can teleport and vanish at will, meaning it's unlikely to to think he can be beaten up and pysically taken apart just like the other 4 when he isn't like the other 4 at all

Then comes the BIGGEST issue I have with this hypothetical assumption too that I have saved for last.

Which is that while the other 4 manifest at the safe-room as that's where they were lured and dismantled, IF Golden Freddy was lured and dismantled just like the other 4 at near the safe-room, he then would manifest there with the other 4, but he doesn't, he instead manifests far away from the safe-room never having been lured there, and instead needs to willingly go all the way over to it, making him inconsistent with the other 4 and different than them

So to me what is more than enough established with the Follow Me minigames, is the continuation of the 5th spirit being something different and seperate than the other 4 there, and seemingly a spirit who wasn't lured either.

8. The Bad end screen and the "the end" screen

In FNAF3 we have 2 endings, which in the original story was meant as the "bad end" when you complete the game but hadn't freed the spirits yet. And the "the end" ending which is the true ending at the time where you free the spirits and it's simply "the end".

But what's incredibly interesting about these screens is the continuation of seperating Golden Freddy yet again.

In the bad ending, where you haven't freed the souls yet. You see the image the core-4 together, with their spirits not resting yet. The 4 victims souls together.

Golden Freddy in the background away from the other 4

Yet, Golden Freddy's spirits head and his soul, is not framed as being lined up together with them, he is instead seperate from them and in the background darkness of the void. He is yet again seperate from the other 4 for some reason, not like the 4 victims there.

The "Happiest Day" music box is also playing here too, showing us that this is meant to represent Happiest Day not being completed yet, the Golden Freddy spirit has still not had their birthday party celebrated, and the other 4 spirits are still trapped in their FNAF3 minigames. None of them have been layed to rest yet, and need to be saved.

And if we then complete the Happiest Day minigame, gathering the 4 spirits and inviting them to the birthday party, and putting them all to rest. We will instead now get the "the end" ending image.

The "Happiest Day" music box is no longer playing, as they have moved on and is no longer stuck there.

And we see a visual which has some pretty interesting implications, we see only the core-4 victims together with their souls now finally resting, with Golden Freddy's head not being with the 4 victims at all.

The 4 luring victims resting

He is yet again, something seperate from the 4 victims, emphasized once again.

And this brings a really interesting question to anyone who thinks this Golden Freddy spirit is victim in the same way as the other 4 there. As if this spirit was a luring victim, just like the other 4, and was lured to the safe-room and killed liked that, just like the other 4.

Why in this "the end" image conclusion to their story, is Golden Freddy specifically excluded from them?

If he was a luring victim just like them, why is he so distinctly seperate from them when all 4 rest together but he doesn't rest right there next to them?

As to me personally I think it sounds incredibly strange, if he was lured and killed just like the other 4 victims there, they all 4 victims got lined up together, but Golden Freddy was excluded from them.

Why would he not be right there lined up with the 4 others if he is a luring victim just like them?

Not only that, but he is not even there in the image. This image is about the 4 victims specifically.

So you have to think of a reason why Scott only wanted these 4 victims lined up together here, but chose to exclude Golden Freddy from the image, even though he is supposedly a luring victim just like the other 4.

Some have tried arguing that:

>"No he is right there in the image, just like the other 4, Scott just forgot to make him visible and put him up with the 4 others, silly him"

But I think this type of reasoning ends up ignoring Scott's very intentional decision here.

Scott very deliberately chose not to have Golden Freddy in this image, and we need to ask why?

Us instead saying "no we are just meant to ignore that detail" avoids the detail that he isn't there in the image itself, that we need to answer for.

As if your interpretation is that he is right there with the 4 others and just like them;
You have to come up with a reason for why Scott didn't just do what You are claiming he did.

Which is to have Golden Freddy in the image and lined up there with the 4 others.

IF that was Scott's intention, he would have just done that, him specifically not doing that should then not just be ignored.

Here's a thought experiment:

Let's say Scott put Golden Freddy as a luring victim lined up right there together with the other 4, now lined up as 5 total all together, the best interpretation of that would be:

Oh look he is right there lined up together with the other 4 just like them now :D

>"Oh look, he is there just like the 4 other luring victims, he is just like the other 4 resting victims there, where they were all 5 lured and killed :D"

While if Scott instead just lined up only 4 of the victims heads together, and did not include Golden Freddy in the image or line him up with the 4, for some specific reason. We shouldn't just give the exact same:

The 4 luring victims finally resting together :)

>"Oh look, he is there just like the 4 other luring victims, he is just like the other 4 resting victims there, where they were all 5 lured and killed :D"

As that to me, obviously that doesn't account for Scott's major decision to NOT have him there, which we need to answer.

And a more natural and logical response to me would be:

>"Oh only the 4 lured victims together? Why isn't Golden Freddy in the image or lined up with the other 4 victims? Wasn't he lured and killed just like the 4 others? Hmmmmmm what may the reason be why he is not with the other 4 victims if he shares the exact same origin as them?"

And then try to figure out why Scott did that.

Oh, also remember how I said the Golden Freddy spirit needed a birthday party? That's pretty interesting hmmmmm, let's go over that now :D

9. Happiest Day - The Golden Freddy spirit's birthday

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Happiest Day is the most central and important minigame in FNAF3, and this is where the Golden Freddy spirit is located. It is seemingly trapped in this memory of a birthday party it never got to have, implying it died at his birthday party. As the only thing that will make it stop crying and be able to move on and rest, is celebrating a birthday party for it.

Another interesting detail too, is that you need the 4 other spirits there wearing masks of each character, and celebrating his birthday for him to move on too, which is a very interesting condition too he needs.

During Happiest Day too there's another often overlooked detail of the soul balloons. They are always there even if the spirits themselves aren't, and when the spirits move on, these soul balloons will rise showing the spirits moving on.

And interestingly we have 5 balloons grouped together, the 4 luring victims and the Puppet spirit.

On the other hand, the Golden Freddy spirit and his balloon is seperated and on the other side of the table. Another example of seemingly being something seperate.

But this connection Golden Freddy has to birthdays, haven't we already seen this before? YES.😁

As we went over during the FNAF2 section, the Golden Freddy spirit has some tie to a birthday, and now that we know it died at its birthday too, we now know a decent bit more about this Golden Freddy spirit and can begin to piece together a potentially accurate picture of it:

• Seems to be something seperate from the the 4 victims, he is not like them, and often framed in a seperate way than them, and is not even in "the end" screen with the 4
• Golden Freddy the character originates from Fredbear's Family Diner, a mysterious place that closed down for, A specific reason, we don't fully know of yet
• Whoever this spirit is, died on their birthday, something bad happened, and when a birthday is brought up again in 87, it seems to influence a bite to happen

With all these details in mind we can come up with a decent answer to what the Golden Freddy spirit is and what happened to it.

It seems to have potentially died at Fredbear's Family Diner, which is the answer to a seperate incident that caused Fredbear's to close down. And it died on it's birthday, something bad happened, and it died on it's birthday and the only way for it to be able to move on is to celebrate it's birthday which it never got to have.

And when a birthday party is brought up again, it becomes active and restless, and influences a bite to happen.

During FNAF3 we are able to give the Golden Freddy spirit the birthday party it wasn't able to have, and it can finally now rest. "the end". The 1-4 conclusion to it's story :)

10. FNAF4 + World - The further elaboration on the Golden Freddy spirit's story

While FNAF3 was the conclusion to the story, and it ended in a nice and satisfying way with the spirits being layed to rest.

There was one gripe people had, which was that Springtraps jumpscare was kinda lame to many people, which Scott has said bothered him.

And with that, just a few 2-4 Weeks after FNAF3's release, Scott had already began working on FNAF4, the final game in his original multiple game story.

One question Scott probably had when thinking of what to do with the 4th game as he had already made the conclusion to the story, is where to go from here. Should he go past the ending?

He didn't do that. He instead decided to keep the ending of FNAF3 as the actual ending to the story, and instead go back to the past, and elaborate on something.

What exactly was the story behind the Golden Freddy spirit and the birthday party?

Creating a prequel story that elaborates on his story.

The story of this game is about BV, and it isn't something Scott thought up like months afterwards or anything, as he already began working on FNAF4 just weeks after FNAF3. So Scott seemingly already had BV's general story in mind planned out from the jump.

But what is the story of BV in FNAF4? Well, it's very interesting, I'll summarize it and let's see see if his story rings any bells pertainting to what we have gone over so far😉

Ahem, BV is a seperate kid who was going to have his birthday at Fredbear's Family Diner, the entire week is building up to his birthday as a big important event, but he Wasn't able to celebrate his birthday, as he was instead bullied and tragically ended up dying on his birthday to a Bite by Fredbear(Golden Freddy). This distinct incident is also what seemingly ended up closing Fredbear's Family Diner.

Raise your hand if the details in this story rings any bells✋

As this is the story of that Golden Freddy spirit we went over earlier, who finally got to have his birthday in Happiest Day :)

Most of the community agrees BV defenitely is at least also a Golden Freddy spirit, but if you aren't convinced BV is a Golden Freddy spirit by all this alone and seeing all the clear connections throughout FNAF2-4 between what we learn about Golden Freddy and BV, then don't worry as there's actually QUITE a lot more details here pretty definitively connecting BV as being Golden Freddy and the Happiest Day reciver

But as I have already made a massive 3400 word post going over all of that in great detail I'll link that here so that you can read it if you want :)

Insanely good post btw, check it out :D

11. What comes next

Okay so now we have made a really good case for the Golden Freddy spirit by far most likely being BV, yippi we found out who and what the Golden Freddy spirit is🥳

BUT, some people are not fully happy with just this answer alone.

>"But.. but what about the GoldenMCI spirit though? It defenitely exists though.. right? But ahhhhhh BV clearly is the Golden Freddy spirit.. what do I do.. OH! I know!💡
What if.. there was.. 2 Golden Freddy spirits all along :D"

Some people were so convinced there Also had to be a GoldenMCI spirit, that they then ended up arguing for a theory called GoldenDuo. That yeah sure BV is Golden Freddy, but there's ALSO a 2nd GoldenMCI spirit in Golden Freddy too.

So this is the topic we will cover next :)

12. Were there really 2 Golden Freddy spirits in FNAF 1-4?🤔

When BV is the Golden Freddy spirit, but we still want there to be a GoldenMCI spirit, we then end up having to say there's 2 seperate Golden Freddy spirit characters.

So, is there any actual major evidence for this? That when we look through FNAF1-4, we end up seeing that it's more likely and looks more like there's actually 2 different distinct Golden Freddy spirits each with their own individual story and ending? And the issue for me was, I simply can't find that when looking through FNAF1-4.

As with FNAF3 we saw The Golden Freddy spirit move on and its ending, this is the chronological conclusion of the original FNAF Story as Scott himself has stated. We don't see 2 different Golden Freddy spirits each get their conclusion or something like that, there is just 1 Golden Freddy spirit there, 1 Golden Freddy spirit who got their birthday party celebrated, and then moved on after Happiest Day as shown in the "the end" screen.

I have asked tons of people and even made a post asking people if they have any evidence there were 2 distinct Golden Freddy spirits in FNAF1-4, and interestingly enough no one has anything.

Evidence for GoldenDuo in FNAF1-4 doesn't really exist

So what it does end up looking like to me, is not that we believe GoldenDuo because there's major evidence there's 2 distinctly different Golden Freddy spirits that each have their own story and ending in FNAF1-4.

But instead, that we are not able to let go of the thought of that there has to be a GoldenMCI spirit.

And it seems like we get to Goldenduo by first pre-supposing that there simply just has to be a GoldenMCI spirit, and if BV is the Golden Freddy spirit, well, then there just has to be 2 whether it looks like that or not.

Which I think ends up being a mistake, as I think at that point someone should begin to seriously consider then the possibility that maybe it's possible there simply just isn't a GoldenMCI spirit then, maybe not fully abandon it yet, but at least seriously consider it. which is what I did.

And that lead me to coming to an alternative explanation that I find a lot more credible and satisfying in terms of evidence and making sense of the story Scott was going for personally :)

13. The 6 Happiest day spirits and the 6 graves in FNAF6 - And the exclusion problem

We know during FNAF6 that the graves are meant to mirror the FNAF3 ending screens(which are tied to Happiest Day), which directly ties the grave image to Happiest Day too then.

And in Happiest Day and this grave screen we have the repeated framing of only 6 spirits and 6 graves.

Under GoldenDuo though there is a problem, as Golden duo persumes there's 7 original spirits part of this story-line of Happiest Day etc, meaning under GoldenDuo someone needs to be excluded from not only Happiest Day but also the grave screen.

And GoldenDuo believers choice on who to exclude ends up being BV from both of these, but this doesn't really seem to add up to me.

As BV is the one character tied to Happiest Day above any and all other characters in the entire series, and I don't think Scott did all that to say he wasn't part of it, as the most likely solution.

We also recently had a nice serious Survey from Fazbear Entertainment of 2k+ people of what the community conensus is regarding Midnight Motorist, and most people overwhelmingly think it's about BV, and you need this minigame about him to unlock this grave screen.

Yet again making it very strange if he isn't in it. Both because of his central role to Happiest Day which is tied to the image, but also because of his central role in the minigame directly needed for the image too.

And if BV is in this image and Happiest day, which there not only is a really good chance he is but to me most likely, that would greatly decreases and nearly removes the possibility of a 7th spirit GoldenMCI victim being part of this.

14. BV Hill Grave evidence

Here's a section going over why there's very good reason to think the Hill grave is BV too :)

• The image itself is meant to tie back to the FNAF3 end screens, where Golden Freddy was specifically seperate from the others and in the background. Which would mean the seperate and in the background grave in this image would belong to Golden Freddy
• By the image being directly tied to the FNAF3 end screens too, which are directly tied to Happiest Day, means if BV is the reciver, which he most likely is, he would then defenitely be in this image
• With this seperate grave there is a Yellow butterfly, which if it means anything, points directly to Golden Freddy
• There is also a more yellowish tint to the grass where this grave is compared to the green grass of the other graves
• Then we also have the fact too that the grass grave interestingly has a Red round shiny ladybug on the side of its face, which if it means anything, would tie this to the Puppet and it's Red round shiny cheeks on the side of its face

If there's any visual hints in the image, this is what it's hinting at :)

• You need to play Midnight Motorist, a story who the community consensus agrees on is about BV / or his death, so that you need a story about BV for this image, strongly links him to the image. Just like how the other 2 minigames deaths are in the image. And there being 3 categories of graves, Seperate grave, Named graves, and Out of sight grave. Lines up with the 3 different minigames you need to do for this image.

You need to play a story about BV to unlock this image, the 2 other minigames also Directly tie into the image too

• In UCN we also have the Bear of Vengance, who seemingly is supposed to represent BV as he has a brotherly rivalry with Foxy and is forced to do house chores every time he loses, and he, who seems to represent BV is constantly shown sitting on a hill under a tree

The little brother bear sits on a hill under a tree and needs to do his Foxybros chores, seems like this is BV

• In Security breach and Ruin, 3 different times we are repeatedly shown Gregory (a character who intentionally resembles BV) sitting on a hill next to a tree. Also Gregory eating a Bear ice cream and having biten the top part of its head off

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• In the Ruin Hill screen too down away from the hill we see 5 balloons rising, with the exact same line up as Happiest Day too, even further tying this back to the grave image

Very interesting detail no one talks about, that we are shown 5 balloons rising together here below the hill

So there is QUITE a lot of reasons to think BV is the hill grave actually.

And if he is, GoldenMCI ends up potentially having some pretty major problems, as the Puppet's grave is in the image because of the minigame-tie, meaning there's no space left for a hypothetical GoldenMCI victim being part of the image.

15. Tickets to Fun - The often overlooked one🔍

There's something pretty gigantic shown in TTF relating to this topic too

As on one of the pages if you use the UV light you will find a very interesting image

It shows 4 dead victims together, with x_x eyes as having been killed

Notice how there's ONLY 4

Notice how there's not 5. We are again shown the repeated imagery of just 4 framed lured and 4 framed killed, not 5.

Golden Freddy excluded from all of these, when if he was a luring victim too, he really should be here

I also wanted to go over one misconception I have seen about this image too, which is that it actually also shows the Puppet and Balloon boy too, but this is actually not true.

As the papers are 2 sided, some of the images from the other unrelated side of the page can slightly bleed into the other side. Puppet and Balloonboy comes from a seperate page in the pamphelet.

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The actual image on the celebration page is just of 4 dead kids framed together. Showing yet again a repeated imagery of just 4 dead kids framed together, and not 5.

16. Conclusion:

(The post ended up being too big btw so check the comments for some parts that were cut :D)

At the end of the day, this is just a silly and extremely vague and confusing spooky bear game. If you completely disagree with me and interpret some of these things completely differently, that's fine and you do not need to leave a hateful comment btw :)

I just wanted offer up my interpretation of the topic and ground all my reasoning in evidence from the games, and lay out in great detail why I think this is a totally reasonable interpretation of the story to me, and why I believe the things I believe in the story.

And hopefully even if you may disagree, it made you maybe think more about something or consider another perspective on a detail or thing you hadn't thought of before, or maybe get a better understanding on why some people believe there isn't a GoldenMCI victim like Fanon-Cassidy for example

Anyways Thanks for reading this reallyyyyy long post, and have a good rest of your day!😁

You know how CassidyGirlReceiver believers love to use page 31 with "reflect on your happiest day" and Puppet giving a girl a cake? WELL! We BVReceiverers have much better evidence for BVReceiver in the same Logbook! On page 33, there is a "Happiest Day" coupon. Almost everything in the description fits:

• Reserved Party Room: Receiver stands in there since the beginning and there are some other kids sitting far away (those with alligator mask etc.), which really feels like the "reserved" room.
• Three-tier birthday cake: Happiest Day always uses three-tier cakes, both for Receiver and other MCI.
• Receive a gift from the Puppet: this is a no-brainer.
• Custom Party Kit with invitation and hats: we quite literally invite other MCI to the HD. The only thing that does not line up is hats, since there are no party hats, but I feel like it's minor given all what matches up.

And what do we see written in all caps at the top of the page? "Take A BITE". Hmmmm, I wonder what character is most associated with the Bite in this franchise!

The reason it is much better than page 31 evidence is because it has much less tying it to THE Happiest Day. Coupon gives a detailed description which ties almost perfectly to FNaF 3 HD. Page 31 only has Puppet giving a cake (which is mentioned on coupon), namedrop of "Happiest Day" (also on the coupon), and the girl speculated to be Cassidy (which cannot be used as evidence for page 31 being about HD if you use it as evidence for CassidyGirlReceiver, since that'd be circular reasoning). And the errors that page 31 has are much worse compared to just omitting party hats: the cake is pink with two tiers and cherries. This is nothing like Happiest Day cake, which is gray with three tiers and candles instead. And the common counterargument of "that's just a representation" does not work since Ticket To Fun, which is basically second Logbook, draws a three tiered cake with three candles, and the coupon as said accurately describes three tiers, so there would be zero reason for Scott to just simply not draw a HD accurate cake if the point was CassidyGirlReceiver.

Update: just noticed that "Custom Party Kit with invitation and hats" is part of all coupons, so it likely doesn't mean anything. This removes invitation point but also eliminates the only problem of hats.

Puppet is implicitly part of "Freddy and his friends" here.

They do be treating it as some sort of universal debunk that protects their agenda.