Me genuinely quitting after SotM 2 reveals that Mimic stuffed Cassie into White Tiger suit and now she co-possesses it with David:

Right now White Tiger is one of my strongest proofs of CassidyVictim by being a parallel to GoldenIllusion and GoldenVictimSolo, but if Scott makes Cassie possess it after her death in RUIN (especially likely since he wouldn’t waste a character), it would basically confirm GoldenPhysical, GoldenDuo, CassidyGirl, and DaveVictim (potentially also confirming CassidyReceiver and debunking TrumanCassidy), i.e. everything I hate and dislike from narrative pov.

Oh, and if he also makes Cassie extremely angry at M2 and put him in some sort of hell after Gregory burns him, that would just be a sugar on the cream to my defeat.

u/TheOrangeGuy09 — 3 hours ago

To Charlie87 believers, what do you think 1983 code of Puppet memory doll in HW2 is meant to be?

I know that a common refutation of it being Charlie’s death year is the fact that White Tiger memory doll has 1979 code despite David not dying in 1979, and that's a valid point, but if it's not meant to be Charlie83 evidence, then what is it? 1979, at least, is the year of SotM and possibly of White Tiger death if he was burnt and died, or possibly it represents the year David lost everything left of his family after the mansion burnt, etc. The point is, you can easily link 1979 to White Tiger and David. But what about Puppet memory doll? What significance does 1983 have to Charlie?

I thought of possible explanations under Charlie87 and came down to two, those being PuppetDuo and MCI83, but I don’t think either are popular. Maybe there is also the idea of Puppet animatronic being created in 1983, but it isn’t very consistent with White Tiger nor does it feel right in Puppet memory doll, with memory dolls being all about the souls inside of animatronics and not robots themselves. So… thoughts?

u/TheOrangeGuy09 — 9 hours ago

Crack idea: ShatterCassidy

Side note: I don’t actually believe this, I’m just entertaining this theory for funsies.

FNaF 3 HD minigames are literally what Cassidy saw either as a kid or Golden Freddy. Fredbear has black accessories, Stage01 kid disappearing while left alone with Spring Bonnie represents William killing someone (likely Fritz), Balloon Boy, Mangle being dismantled by kids in FNaF 2, and Shadow Bonnie. BV couldn’t see all of this as GF since he explicitly can’t see in Logbook, and he never saw Fredbear with black accessories, only purple. He never saw BB, he saw Balloon Kid (and if it was his memories, that would be Balloon Kid and not BB), he never saw kids dismantling Mangle, at best it was his sister and it would be toy Mangle, not actual animatronics and not kids like what Mangle minigame in FNaF 3 represents. Also, all of these minigames are explicitly tied to Freddy’s and MCI, who are all related to Cassidy, while BV died in Fredbear’s and is deeply tied to it as well as plushies and thus his soul should be unable to reach Classics or be about Freddy’s.

FNaF World also supports it. Glitchbear in the end says “Rest”, this implies whoever he is talking to will rest in the end. That would be Cassidy, since she is Receiver, not BV. Also, it would make much more sense for the character on who Happiest Day is centered around to be Glitchbear’s main priority, not some outsider who is BV.

This is also consistent with the fact that Cassidy is, ultimately, one of the most important characters. Scrapped movie script called “Cassidy” was meant to tie to and involve many characters. In sight of this, it would make much more sense if Happiest Day and FW, etc., would be tied and revolved around Cassidy, not some random boy who died two years earlier.

Male pronouns from Glitchbear are explainable in the same way as CassidyTOYSNHK, i.e. SuitNouns or CassidyBoy. Glitchbear repeating Speaker’s words can be explained by GoldenDuo with BV slightly affecting Cassidy, or Glitchbear just deciding to repeat the same words without any significance.

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u/TheOrangeGuy09 — 13 hours ago

To mainstream Cassidy followers, why is Cassidy so special?

Why is she different from other four MCI, and is instead hyperaware, capable of teleportation, mental powers, etc. etc.? Especially if she is also TOYSNHK, Glitchbear, etc.

I know one popular explanation is her being springlocked, but it doesn’t make sense in context with William i.e. Springtrap. He was springlocked too, but he cannot teleport and do all these other superpowers that Cassidy has. Also, the fact that Springtrap can walk and GF can’t also makes it unlikely that she was springlocked in the first place to me.

Imo, MCI4, CassidyVictim, PuppetCassidy, or Unwithered Truth's CassidyExperiments ("TrumanCassidy") theories all give a very good explanation to why Cassidy is special, but last time I checked, these theories are, to put it mildly, not fan favourites amongst mainstream consensus.

So, what do you think of it?

u/TheOrangeGuy09 — 17 hours ago
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Do you have "backup" theories?

I.e., have you ever thought what would you do if one of your main theories or line of theories is officially debunked? If so, why?

One example of mine is that if CassidyTOYSNHK gets debunked, I'd probably switch to DavidTOYSNHK instead. I can explain why and I also have much more backup theories, but I want to keep it short so will just say that.

I'm just curious on whether anyone has something similar.

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u/TheOrangeGuy09 — 1 day ago

Thoughts on MCISpan?

It’s a theory that MCI happened overtime and did not all die in one day.

I personally believe it, though I wonder what people think, given that it conflicts with Frights, ITPG, and RttP.

u/TheOrangeGuy09 — 2 days ago

I'm not a GoldenDavid believer but still, double standards are wild

Yenndo being GF is basically considered a fact because of his name "Yellow Endo" directly connecting to "Yellow Bear" and his teleportation mechanics in Custom Night being same as Golden Freddy in FNaF 1, while White Tiger being GF is considered mind-blowing and stupid, despite him also connecting to Yellow Bear ("color + name of animal" formula) and behaving same as Golden Freddy in FNaF 1 (teleporting, hallucinations, not walking, giggling). White Tiger is also criticized for not looking like GF (compared to Withered GF for example), but Yenndo is LITERALLY a naked endoskeleton???

u/TheOrangeGuy09 — 3 days ago

"CassidyGirl is so canon" and y'all can’t even agree on what she looks like🥀✌️

Maybe, just MAYBE, it's a sign that we stop seeing Cassidy in every single random damn girl in this franchise?

u/TheOrangeGuy09 — 4 days ago

FreddyDuo

  • Freddy is the only animatronic with two jumpscares in FNaF 2, one of them is done with silver eyes from right while another one is when power is off and from the left, so this could hint at two souls.
  • There are two Withered Freddy's in FNaF 2: actual animatronic and Freddy mask. Once again, hint at two souls.
  • Freddy is most aggressive and other animatronics fear him, this is explained by him having two angry souls instead of one.
  • During BV death, "I’m still here" is said right before Freddy plush disappears, this is a hint that BV will possess Freddy and be "still here".
  • Funtime Animatronics represent Aftons, and Funtime Freddy in particular represents BV, not Yenndo, which means he haunts Freddy instead of GF.
  • Puppet hiding inside of Freddy would make sense since it would be BV carrying and protecting his girlfriend.
  • Freddy hides from cameras in FNaF 1, BV hides under the table in FNaF 4, so they both hide meaning BV is Freddy.
  • In Novels, Gabriel is actually never named, he only appears in Graphic Novels, where he replaces a striped shirt boy who cries and gets comforted to be helped put together his papers by Carlton in original novels. The message here is clear: Gabriel and BV are both Freddy.
  • BV and Gabriel both died at their birthday parties when they were seven years old, probably because they are both in the same animatronic.
  • It makes most sense for the main animatronic whose name appears in every game title to be most special and have two souls.
  • Andrew and Jake parallel works much better here since they are both boys.
  • BV in FNaF 4 can only go outside in Night 3 minigame, Freddy in FNaF 1 only starts attacking in Night 3. This basically confirms BV is in Freddy.
  • BV is likely Bear from Bear of Vengeance, who is a brown bear, not golden one.
  • It explains why Freddy leads in Molten Freddy: it is possessed by two spirits so double power and authority.
  • Freddy and Foxy are most unique in FNaF 1 & 4, which is a hint at BV being in Freddy because Foxy associates with FoxyBro.
  • BV told me he likes hanging out with Gabriel more than Cassidy.
u/TheOrangeGuy09 — 7 days ago

RoryFavorite

Dude inherited a giant house and immortality research, being provided for his life for ten years. Not many real parents do this irl, and William did this for Rory! Also Rory decides to stay in the end, this is because he realizes that William built everything because he loves him.

u/TheOrangeGuy09 — 7 days ago