Quand la crèche recommande une consultation médicale : jusqu’où suivre leur avis ?

Bonjour,

J’aimerais avoir des avis de parents sur une situation médicale concernant mon enfant de 2 ans et demi, sans entrer dans trop de détails personnels.

La crèche nous a conseillé à plusieurs reprises de consulter un ORL, en évoquant la possibilité qu’un problème au niveau des oreilles puisse provoquer des douleurs ou des maux de tête et éventuellement expliquer certains épisodes de colère/dysrégulation.

Nous avons déjà suivi cette recommandation une première fois et consulté un ORL à la demande de la crèche. Rien de particulier n’avait été retrouvé, et nous avions donc prévu de refaire un point avec l’ORL dans le cadre de son suivi habituel à 3 ans.

Par ailleurs, notre enfant est déjà suivi chaque semaine par une psychomotricienne et une orthophoniste, notamment autour de particularités sensorielles avec une forte recherche de mouvement et certains comportements qui peuvent faire penser à des traits « type TDAH » à cet âge. Je précise que je ne dis pas qu’il a un TDAH, simplement que c’est dans ce contexte que nous travaillons actuellement.

À la maison, nous n’observons pas particulièrement de signes qui feraient penser à des douleurs d’oreille : pas de tirage d’oreille, pas de plaintes, pas de réveils inhabituels liés à la douleur, pas de problème apparent d’audition, etc. Ses oreilles ont également été examinées récemment par son médecin.

La crèche continue néanmoins à nous conseiller de consulter un ORL plus tôt, en faisant le lien possible entre un problème ORL et certains de ses comportements.

Ma question est donc surtout celle-ci :

Est-ce que vous trouveriez justifié de reprendre rendez-vous avec l’ORL plus tôt uniquement sur la base de cette suggestion de la crèche, alors qu’un suivi ORL est déjà prévu et qu’il n’y a pas de symptômes évidents à la maison ?

Je ne cherche pas à écarter une hypothèse médicale : si le pédiatre ou l’ORL pensait qu’il y avait une raison clinique de consulter plus tôt, je le ferais évidemment. Je me demande simplement où placer la limite entre prendre au sérieux une inquiétude de la crèche et laisser les professionnels de santé déterminer les examens réellement nécessaires.

Merci pour vos retours d’expérience.

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u/bagmami — 12 days ago

2.5yo won't nap but clearly needs it

My toddler have been a champion with naps but recently it's really difficult to get him to nap.

He gets a total of 10h sleep at night. Either sleeping from 8pm to 6am or 9pm to 7am.

Usually he would take a nap 6h after waking up. He's very active and we take him out, he goes to swimming, he's in daycare etc. However since 2 months this schedule rarely works.

I don't mind him giving up napping all together but he clearly needs it. He either falls asleep in his stroller around 5pm and bed time becomes a nightmare or he's an agitaged mess after 6pm. So I really need him to nap for at least an hour and a half no later than 2pm.

His age in months is 32 months old. He is suspected to have ADHD, in OT and ST. He's a sensory seeker and a very high energy child. But sleep was more or less ok up to this point. I recently discussed with some parents at daycare and they're all experiencing the same thing. Anyone has been through this and was able to fix it?

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u/bagmami — 12 days ago

What winter jackets do toddlers wear?

Hi, I've been looking at some winter jackets for my son and I came across some brands such as, mikk-line, Reima, Wheat, Gosoaky, lil' atelier, mini rodini, swedemount, mini a ture, color kids. I have access to those so if you have any opinions on any of them it's appreciated.

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u/bagmami — 2 months ago
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Palmes en piscine municipale : autorisées ?

Bonjour ! Est-ce que les palmes sont généralement autorisées dans les piscines municipales parisiennes, pendant les créneaux de nage libre ? Je parle de palmes courtes, éventuellement avec une planche. C’est courant ou plutôt mal vu ? 🏊‍♀️

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u/bagmami — 2 months ago

How do you deal with overwhelm? I feel like I'm constantly failing.

Hi everyone, my son is a 2.5 yo sensory seeker + suspected for ADHD. He's in OT and speech therapy.

I, myself, have crippling executive dysfunction due to CPTSD and am on zoloft which helps. I have lots of goals and things that I want to achieve. Currently we are staying with family for vacations so we have plenty of help. And everything seems possible! But I know that once we go back home to our own lives, I'll crumble and try to get through the day one day after another.

To explain myself a little bit; my son is in daycare. From the moment he wakes up, until we have breakfast and get dressed to go to daycare, he runs me rugged. Even in winter, I find myself sweating out of my hair and out of breath trying to redirect him, prevent him from hurting himself or harming something in the house. I know some might say that this is normal toddler behaviour but maybe it's my executive dysfunction that his behaviour puts me on edge. By 09:30am in the morning, my nervous system is frayed and I need to sit down for a minute to calm myself down after daycare drop off. I try to stay regulated around him as much as I can but sometimes repeated exposure to this intensity leaves me completely dysfunctional.

I own my own business and work part time. Getting right back to work makes me forget it but it also puts my nervous system on overdrive. If I don't have work that week, I find myself unable to move from the couch, wanting to sleep all day and trying to recover from what I assume is accumulated stress. I need to take a break from work soon to focus on some personal things and I know that I might just lose all my motivation and it makes me worried that it's gonna become a vicious cycle because it usually does.

Does anyone else experience this overwhelm? How do you deal with it? I'm seeing a psychiatrist but he isn't very helpful with practical stuff. I guess I need to hear it from someone who knows how it is.

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u/bagmami — 2 months ago

Anyone else trying to gentle parent an intense sensory seeker?

Hi, my 2.5yo son is a sensory seeker with a lot of energy. He's in OT and speech therapy. Some days can be really intense and difficult with him. I try my best to gentle parent him, put boundaries and follow with logical consequences but there are days that none of my tools are working or applicable. Plus I can't always find logical consequences to follow with.

For example today he was so overstimulated, he kept biting me and going floppy. Distancing myself, saying "I won't let you bite" or trying to explain that it hurts mom didn't work because he wasn't in a place to listen. He ran off and messed with the toilet paper and threw his wipes on the ground. It all happens so fast, I get flustered while trying to remain calm. He's incredibly fast. Anyone else dealing with the same thing? How are you handling it?

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u/bagmami — 2 months ago

They don't know what it's like

Hi, I'm a mom to a suspected ADHD boy who's also a sensory seeker. I myself suffer from crippling executive dysfunction due to depression. My son is in OT + speech therapy and I'm seeing a psychiatrist.

Today was an exceptionally difficult day for my son. My husband and I tried everything to keep things in order but my son was impossible to manage.

We've seen so many improvements in the last 6 months but at the same time the intensity of his actions have increased. When I bring this up with his therapist I can actually tell that she doesn't understand what's like to live with a 2.5 yo who requires that much hands on supervision while having to keep the house running and take care of your own needs too.

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u/bagmami — 3 months ago

They don't know what it's like

Hi, I'm a mom to a suspected ADHD boy who's also a sensory seeker. I myself suffer from crippling executive dysfunction due to depression. My son is in OT + speech therapy and I'm seeing a psychiatrist.

Today was an exceptionally difficult day for my son. My husband and I tried everything to keep things in order but my son was impossible to manage.

We've seen so many improvements in the last 6 months but at the same time the intensity of his actions have increased. When I bring this up with his therapist I can actually tell that she doesn't understand what's like to live with a 2.5 yo who requires that much hands on supervision while having to keep the house running and take care of your own needs too.

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u/bagmami — 3 months ago

What gives you war flashbacks to prep?

Personally I wanna cry when I see beurre pommade and beurre manié. I had a chef who got extra pleasure from watching us try to work the butter fresh out of fridge with a marise.

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u/bagmami — 3 months ago

I had a meltdown

Hi, sorry for the rant. It finally happened and I had a meltdown after long years. My mental health wasn't stellar due to my narc parents. I used to have nervous breakdowns and spent days in bed. After getting away from them and years of therapy, I became more in charge of my mental state and emotions. I haven't had anything like this in years.

We've been having problems with my husband since the birth of my son. He basically made me a married single mom and I'm currently unable to leave. We're in Europe and heavily impacted by the heatwave. Our AC broke down due to extreme heat. My son is potentially neurodivergent and he's 2.5 so you get the idea, we had a difficult 10 days and a difficult day today. My husband was acting like another toddler all day.

I took my son out to the park to use the water jets and freshen up a bit before bed. Park was closed and he wasn't having it. Walk back home was hell and I finally broke down and started crying when we got back home.

There comes my lovely husband yelling at me "not in front of the kid" so I told him to take him away. He told me to go away myself so I moved to another room. And in the meantime he keeps yelling "you can't do this in front of him" repeatedly while me and my son crying our eyes out. He told me to go upstairs and I made my way there but he kept shaming me for crying in front of him so I yelled "SHUT UP THAT'S ENOUGH" and left.

I agree that I should pull myself together in front of him but he's been literally leaving me alone to parent even though I've been telling him how exhausted I was. He refused to get our AC repaired and I wfh while he works in an office with AC. I'm actually glad I got it out and I feel much better now. I've been too much in control of my emotions due to my extreme reactions before. That was 2.5 years build up. I should have said more and maybe I will but even that lifted something off of my heart. I apologised to my son and loved on him plenty since. I hope he wasn't too scarred.

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u/bagmami — 4 months ago

From the other side

Hi, I wanted to share my story as a mom of 29 month old son who had one of the most difficult starts to sleep in life.

He developed reflux early on so he was in a lot of pain and discomfort at night. Later came the teething. He started at 4.5 months and it was brutal for him. At 8 months, the more difficult teeth started coming in all at the same time with recurring otites. Around that time my son started having split nights and I went back to work so it was killing me but I pushed through still responding to him each time, still holding him.

Some people recommended gentler sleep training methods with no crying required. I read them but didn't follow through. I knew he was in pain and he needed his parents. At around 15 months he started to sleep through for a bit but it was just a couple of months. I still tried to push through and by that time my friends were blaming me saying I was doing it to myself.

Later I realized that most nights when he woke up he wasn't actually fully awake and by responding as fast as I could, I could prevent a full wake up followed by 2h awake time. At first I had to tell him "it's night, we sleep at night" and put him back to his bed gently. He cried and protested but I stayed with him and rubbed his back. The split nights resolved.

Now when it's nap or bed time, he asks to go to bed. I go with him and hold his hand. Sometimes he will ask for a hug. We listen to his tonibox and he falls asleep fairly quickly. Sometimes it takes longer in hot weather etc but that's normal. That's a baby that had his every cry responded to and loved on. You're not spoiling them. My friend's gentle sleep trained 3 yo takes hours to put to bed.

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u/bagmami — 4 months ago

Aquarium AC situation

Hi, resident here. My kids daycare is closed tomorrow and I'm thinking of taking him to the Aquarium in the afternoon.

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Has anyone been there recently? How is the AC situation? We've been at an indoor play area yesterday and while AC was great during May heatwave it was really subpar yesterday. If Aquarium AC situation is the same, I'll look for other plans.

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Thanks a lot.

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u/bagmami — 4 months ago

Heatwave meal prep ideas?

Hi, I have a very active toddler at home so I try to meal prep for weekends to avoid from spending too much time in the kitchen while he's around. Next weekend the weather report is showing extreme heatwave, so it might be too hot for stews and lasagna. Any make ahead heat friendly ideas?

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u/bagmami — 4 months ago

Bostanci-Kadikoy civari yemek tavsiyeleri ve 2-3 yas cocugu icin etkinlik aktiviteler

Herkese selam, 2.5 yasinda oglumla Istanbul'a gidiyoruz. Ben Istanbul'da dogdum buyudum ama genelde hep Avrupa yakasindaydim. Velhasil kelam, Bostanci, Kadikoy ve cadde tarafinda cocukla gidebilecegim mutlaka dene dediginiz lezzetler. Ozellikle:

  1. Son 2-3 sene icinde trend olmus yeni lezzetler

  2. Ve klasik Turk mutfagi lezzetleri

Tavsiyenize ihtiyacim var.

Bir de cocukla yapabilecegimiz ucretli veya ucretsiz aktiviteler, oyun gruplari, park, kapali veya acik oyun alanlari vs tavsiyelerinizi alirim.

Gunluk kac TL butce onerirsiniz? 5000 yeterli mi? 3 ogun disarda yemeyiz buyuk ihtimalle ama yine de iste.

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u/bagmami — 5 months ago

How do you do mother's day with a difficult toddler?

Hi everyone, unlike most of the world we celebrate mother's day in 2 weeks. My mom lives far away so it's only me and my husband + our toddler.

My son is very energetic and impulsive. Taking him to a brunch with us might mean more work for me. I'm not sure if I want the day to myself or away from my kiddo no matter how tiresome it can be.

I'm really not sure what I want (other than 5m in my account lol) I'm not very keen on zoo, aquarium etc because I do these activities all the time with my son.

It's almost like I wanna enjoy my son's presence but I don't want to be responsible for his safety etc for a couple of hours.

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u/bagmami — 5 months ago

Hi everyone, my son is 27 months old to be exact. He's in daycare since 8mo. His daycare flagged some issues with his behaviour. It's mostly the need to move more than his classmates, impulse control issues etc. Yes, this all sounds like regular toddler behaviour but compared to his classmates he experiences these way more intensely. He's in OT and they are working on attention span and impulse control. At the same time he's a sensory seeker.

As his mom, I feel like I'm eternally stuck between picking my battles, making sure his sensory needs are met and enforcing clear boundaries. I've been successful with some but failing hard with some others. It's exhausting. I'll admit that sometimes I'll let him do whatever if it's not harmful/dangerous for a 5 minutes of peace. I feel judged by doing this.

I also can't help but pick up the online chatter how the kids nowadays are all badly behaved, lack discipline etc etc. Also, sometimes I see/hear moms say how well behaved their kids are because they're strict with their kids. I wanna scream that they only think so because their child has an easy temperament. Because no matter what I do, some things never change with my son so he either needs to grow out of it or it's a long work in progress. It's hard to see people claim they warned their baby once and they know better now. My family of boomers are not making it easy for me by saying "we do whatever he wants".

I'm sorry this post is a hot mess, I should have probably given some examples but yeah, I'll try.

Positives: We've been successful with teaching him to be gentle with our dog. He's now 100% using gentle hands with him. He's 98% gentle with kids at playground. If he isn't he gets one very clear warning + says sorry to the kid and we're out by the second if it happens again. Thank god he grew out of throwing stuff off the table. That took me more than a year. He's good with transitions, not big tantrums until recently really. He has an understanding of taking turns at the playground and will be warned if he forgets. He used to be good at sharing but not anymore. When he should stop doing something, he's mostly ok if we say bye bye to it and give him time to properly detach. Of course it doesn't always work.

Negatives: He doesn't tolerate waiting. On a bad day he will scream down a bus stop. Queuing for a high value thing is extremely difficult for him. Doctor's waiting rooms are only ok if he can move around. Obviously, we don't eat out with him or not without an emergency screen stashed if we must. Say if we go to a picnic, he will just wander around or get himself chased by us endlessly.

He has like 2-2.5h time limit from his wake up time before he starts having energy explosions at home. We have to be out and go to the park or an activity within that time limit or he gets fast, destructive and not listening. At that point you're just managing chaos with minimum damage, there's no discipline possible. Things he will do: open and close freezer drawers, open and slam the oven door, break glass stuff if he can reach them, ride his globber indoors and slam himself against base boards at high speed, mess with plants, throw stuff and he even took the frame off of our frame tv. He laughs if I act strict with him at this level.

He's enrolled in all the sports that he can do at his age and I take him out twice a day on weekends no matter how tired I am.

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u/bagmami — 5 months ago

Hi, we live very central in a busy city. There's a lot of bikes, cars, trucks etc on the road and sidewalks are crowded + fast paced.

My 27mo recently started to refuse to get into his stroller to go to the daycare and anywhere else for that matter. I try to explain to him that we need to hold hands, we can't run away and especially when crossing the street but he just won't listen.

He's running away from me, biting me, refusing to hold my hand and starts kicking and crying when I try to pick him up.

Once I walked back home and picked up his stroller and explained to him that I can't let him be unsafe. Sometimes I have him hold the harness of the stroller and walk next to it so I can put him in it if he acts out but it can be cumbersome to manage both him and the stroller. I'm not sure what to do moving forward. Any advice?

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u/bagmami — 6 months ago