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Onur Karatas hedder vores remigrationsmodne ven, der genererer danske kvinder. Interessant.

u/bear420000 — 10 hours ago
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Is this warning banner on foundayo website new?

Have you guys seen the warning banner on https://foundayo.lilly.com is that new?

“Warnings – Foundayo may cause tumors in the thyroid, including thyroid cancer. Watch for possible symptoms, such as a lump or swelling in the neck, hoarseness, trouble swallowing, or shortness of breath.”

u/bear420000 — 2 days ago

Do your cairn like to be in cave bed?

We have a hard time, getting our cairn (Alfred), to go into his cave bed, do you have the same problem?

u/bear420000 — 6 days ago

# Den store rotation: pengene flytter fra AI-aktier over i medicinalsektoren

Der skete noget interessant på markedet i denne uge.

**Udgangspunktet:** Nasdaq lukkede i minus for femte dag i træk. Begejstringen omkring AI-aktierne er begyndt at køle af. OpenAI overvejer angiveligt at udskyde sin børsnotering til næste år, og det har fået investorerne til at stille spørgsmålstegn ved, om de enorme investeringer i AI-infrastruktur reelt kan tjene sig hjem. Chip-aktierne faldt markant, og både Apple og Microsoft tabte terræn.

Hvor søgte kapitalen så hen? Mod de defensive sektorer. Især medicinal- og sundhedssektoren fik et solidt løft og blev ugens næstbedste sektor. Og det var bredt funderet, ikke kun nogle få store selskaber, der holdt markedet oppe. Det er typisk sådan, en sektorrotation ser ud, før den bliver åbenlys for alle.

**Det fører os til fedmemedicinen.**

**Novo Nordisk (NVO)** er den interessante value-case her. Aktien har fået hård medfart og ligger omkring 65% under toppen fra 2024, med et fald på over 50% i marts efter skuffende CagriSema-data og to nedjusteringer af forventningerne. Men billedet er ved at vende:

- Wegovy i pilleform lanceres i Storbritannien den 6. juli. Det bliver den første GLP-1-pille til vægttab i Europa.
- Apoteket Chemist4U har alene en venteliste på over 10.000, og omkring 75% af dem har aldrig tidligere brugt GLP-1-medicin. Det stjæler altså ikke kunder fra Lilly, men udvider hele markedet.
- EU-myndighederne kom med en positiv anbefaling i maj. Den endelige godkendelse afventer, og lanceringer ventes i Tyskland, Danmark og Storbritannien i andet halvår.
- Aktien steg omkring 6% på den britiske godkendelse og lukkede i grønt fredag, mens teknologiaktierne faldt.

**Eli Lilly (LLY)** er fortsat den dominerende spiller. Mounjaro og Zepbound omsatte for cirka 36 mia. dollars sidste år, og Lilly forventer omkring 28% vækst, mens Novo forventer et fald. Lillys egen pille, Foundayo, kommer langsommere fra start, fordi det er et nyt molekyle og brand, og orforglipron er det store usikkerhedsmoment. Vil man have den solide kvalitetsaktie, er det Lilly. Vil man have den nedslagtede aktie med potentiale for en vending, er det Novo.

**Risikoscenariet:** Novos egne forventninger til 2026 er et fald i omsætningen på mellem 4 og 12%. Priserne i USA er under pres. Lilly tager markedsandele. Analytikerne er overvejende neutrale, med cirka 5 købsanbefalinger, 9 hold og ingen salg, hvilket reelt betyder, at de er usikre. Efterspørgslen på pillen er reel, men det afgørende nøgletal bliver, om patienterne bliver på behandlingen gennem optrapningen af dosis.

**Den vigtige begivenhed:** Novos regnskab for andet kvartal kommer den 5. august. Tallene for, hvor mange der fastholder pillebehandlingen, bliver afgørende for kursen.

**Kort fortalt:** AI-boblen taber luft, kapitalen roterer mod de defensive sektorer, sundhedssektoren får et løft, og kampen om GLP-1-pillerne bliver global. Novo er det spekulative comeback-spil, Lilly er det mere stabile valg.

Mine positioner: jeg er lang i begge. Dette er ikke investeringsrådgivning, så gør jeres eget arbejde.

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u/bear420000 — 9 days ago

Den store rotation: pengene flytter fra AI-aktier over i medicinalsektoren

Der skete noget interessant på markedet i denne uge.

**Udgangspunktet:** Nasdaq lukkede i minus for femte dag i træk. Begejstringen omkring AI-aktierne er begyndt at køle af. OpenAI overvejer angiveligt at udskyde sin børsnotering til næste år, og det har fået investorerne til at stille spørgsmålstegn ved, om de enorme investeringer i AI-infrastruktur reelt kan tjene sig hjem. Chip-aktierne faldt markant, og både Apple og Microsoft tabte terræn.

Hvor søgte kapitalen så hen? Mod de defensive sektorer. Især medicinal- og sundhedssektoren fik et solidt løft og blev ugens næstbedste sektor. Og det var bredt funderet, ikke kun nogle få store selskaber, der holdt markedet oppe. Det er typisk sådan, en sektorrotation ser ud, før den bliver åbenlys for alle.

**Det fører os til fedmemedicinen.**

Novo Nordisk (NVO) er den interessante value-case her. Aktien har fået hård medfart og ligger omkring 65% under toppen fra 2024, med et fald på over 50% i marts efter skuffende CagriSema-data og to nedjusteringer af forventningerne. Men billedet er ved at vende:

- Wegovy i pilleform lanceres i Storbritannien den 6. juli. Det bliver den første GLP-1-pille til vægttab i Europa.
- Apoteket Chemist4U har alene en venteliste på over 10.000, og omkring 75% af dem har aldrig tidligere brugt GLP-1-medicin. Det stjæler altså ikke kunder fra Lilly, men udvider hele markedet.
- EU-myndighederne kom med en positiv anbefaling i maj. Den endelige godkendelse afventer, og lanceringer ventes i Tyskland, Danmark og Storbritannien i andet halvår.
- Aktien steg omkring 6% på den britiske godkendelse og lukkede i grønt fredag, mens teknologiaktierne faldt.

**Eli Lilly (LLY)** er fortsat den dominerende spiller. Mounjaro og Zepbound omsatte for cirka 36 mia. dollars sidste år, og Lilly forventer omkring 28% vækst, mens Novo forventer et fald. Lillys egen pille, Foundayo, kommer langsommere fra start, fordi det er et nyt molekyle og brand, og orforglipron er det store usikkerhedsmoment. Vil man have den solide kvalitetsaktie, er det Lilly. Vil man have den nedslagtede aktie med potentiale for en vending, er det Novo.

**Risikoscenariet:** Novos egne forventninger til 2026 er et fald i omsætningen på mellem 4 og 12%. Priserne i USA er under pres. Lilly tager markedsandele. Analytikerne er overvejende neutrale, med cirka 5 købsanbefalinger, 9 hold og ingen salg, hvilket reelt betyder, at de er usikre. Efterspørgslen på pillen er reel, men det afgørende nøgletal bliver, om patienterne bliver på behandlingen gennem optrapningen af dosis.

**Den vigtige begivenhed:** Novos regnskab for andet kvartal kommer den 5. august. Tallene for, hvor mange der fastholder pillebehandlingen, bliver afgørende for kursen.

**Kort fortalt:** AI-boblen taber luft, kapitalen roterer mod de defensive sektorer, sundhedssektoren får et løft, og kampen om GLP-1-pillerne bliver global. Novo er det spekulative comeback-spil, Lilly er det mere stabile valg.

Mine positioner: jeg er lang i begge. Dette er ikke investeringsrådgivning, så gør jeres eget arbejde.

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u/bear420000 — 9 days ago

The Great Rotation: money is fleeing AI bagholders and waddling straight into fat-loss drugs

Alright regards, gather round. Something actually happened this week besides my puts expiring worthless.

The setup: Nasdaq just printed its 5th straight red day. The AI infinite-money-glitch trade is wobbling. OpenAI is reportedly thinking about pushing its IPO to next year, and suddenly everyone remembered that “spend $500B on GPUs and figure out revenue later” might not be a plan. Chips got smoked. Apple and Microsoft eating losses on their own drama.

So where did the smart money run? Defensives. And healthcare specifically caught a real bid, second-best sector on the week with the equal-weight index climbing, meaning it’s not just 7 megacaps holding the tape up anymore. This is what a rotation looks like before it’s obvious.

Enter the fat-loss summer body cartel. 💊

Novo (NVO) is the degenerate value play here. Stock got absolutely beaten like it owed someone money, down ~65% from the 2024 top, max drawdown over 50% in March after a CagriSema miss and two guidance cuts. But the tape is turning:
• Oral Wegovy lands in the UK July 6th. First GLP-1 pill for weight loss in Europe.
• Chemist4U alone reportedly has a 10,000+ waitlist, and ~75% have NEVER touched a GLP-1. That’s not stealing Lilly’s customers, that’s growing the whole pie.
• EU gave the pill a positive regulator opinion in May, EC approval pending, launches in Germany / Denmark / UK in 6. Juli. Already.
• It bounced ~6% on the UK approval and closed Friday green while tech bled.

Eli Lilly (LLY) is still the 800lb gorilla, don’t get it twisted. Mounjaro + Zepbound did ~$36B last year and Lilly’s guiding to ~28% growth while Novo guides to a decline. Their oral, Foundayo, is ramping slower because it’s a new molecule/brand, and orforglipron is the wildcard. If you want the quality compounder, it’s LLY. If you want the beaten-down turnaround lottery ticket, it’s NVO.

The bear case (because I’m not totally smooth-brained): Novo’s own 2026 guidance is a sales DECLINE of 4-12%. US pricing is eroding. Lilly is taking share. Analysts are mostly Hold (like 5 Buy / 9 Hold, zero Sell, aka “we have no idea”). The pill demand is real but the metric that matters is whether people stay on it through the dose ramp.

The catalyst: Novo Q2 earnings August 5th. Pill retention numbers will either send it or end it.

TL;DR: AI bubble leaking air, money rotating defensive, healthcare bid, and the GLP-1 pill war is going global. NVO = turnaround YOLO, LLY = the safe-ish chad play.

Positions: long both because I refuse to pick a side in a knife fight. NFA, I eat crayons. 🖍️🐂

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u/bear420000 — 9 days ago
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It is true, finally the times will change!

It is true, finally the times will change!

u/bear420000 — 16 days ago

Expectations for release of EU / UK PILL?

I did not see any numbers for the pill today.

Also do anybody have an idea of when the eu / uk pill will be released?

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u/bear420000 — 1 month ago
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forventningerne er ikk vilde…
så hva ska der til for at overraske?

er det nok bare at slå forventninger?
eller skal der nyt til? 🤔

u/bear420000 — 2 months ago

I'm here to tell you the bull case for Lilly’s Foundayo rests on an unspoken assumption: nobody in the target demographic is having sex. Sounds crazy?

The facts:

Oral Wegovy seems to be more effective than Foundayo. ~14% vs ~11% weight loss at max dose in a cross-trial comparison.[1]

The injectable GLP-1 market is kinda old people. These are postmenopausal women and middle-aged dudes with metabolic syndrome. They signed up for needles, cold chain, and insurance fights. They have demonstrated they don't give a shit about friction.

The pill market is different. Younger. Lower BMI. Price-sensitive. Needle-averse. Convenience-maximalist. This is where Foundayo's growth has to come from.

Here's the kicker I suspect nobody is pricing in. Foundayo's FDA label requires women on oral birth control to either switch to non-oral contraception OR use condoms for 30 days after starting AND 30 days after each dose escalation. That's 3-6 months of continuous backup contraception to reach max dose.[2]

Oral Wegovy has no such warning. Semaglutide was directly studied for oral contraceptive interaction. No clinically meaningful effect. Zero friction, so to say.

The thesis:

Imagine you're a 32-year-old woman on the pill. You want to lose weight. You have two options:

Oral Wegovy: Take it in the morning, wait 30 min to eat (you already skip breakfast anyway). ~14% weight loss. No change to your birth control.

Foundayo: Take whenever you want. 11% weight loss. Also: use condoms for the next 3-6 months. Every time your doctor bumps your dose, the 30-day clock resets. Tell your boyfriend that his cucumber will be residing in a plastic bag for 3-6 months.

Which one do you pick?

This is not a hard question. This is the easiest A/B test in pharma. Lilly is saying that their products add “convenience”. However, that’s only if you are not on the pill.

I spun up a Jupyter Notebook, found some demographic data (birth control usage[3], age and gender of the patients[4]), and did some crude calculations:

My best guess is that 9-14 percent of the potential patients will be somewhat affected when you factor in that the mean age of the NEW users will be lower for the pill (I used 3 to 8 years in my simulated population). It's hard to say how much but the effect could very well be very real (but I l have tried to be conservative in my estimations).

As I said: For the injectables this is not that big of a problem - the customers have demonstrated that they can tolerate the friction and they are older (i.e. not on birth control). The birth control problem is only a problem for the marginal costumer.

But when the potential costumer base becomes younger, then the effects of this problem rises rapidly (that's just statistics).

The 9-14 percent is a huge number in my humble opinion… Also, I don’t factor in the narrative aspect of this problem: Lilly is trying to brand themselves as the “convenient” choice - but for women they could become the option that messes with your birth control.

Why this isn't priced in:

Clinical analysts read efficacy tables. Commercial analysts build models. Nobody at a bank has the job of considering the sexual aspect. Maybe they should hire a Chief Friction Analyst?

The birth control warning is in the label. The efficacy gap is in the trials. It's all public.

We now have the first indication that LLY is not selling as many pills as NVO. ~20 percent of the sales that the Wegovy pill made for a full week.[5]

Catalyst:

Q1 earnings April 30. Watch the early Foundayo script data. If Novo's oral semaglutide is specifically winning the young female segment - not just winning in aggregate - the thesis plays out over the next 2-3 quarters.

Position: Long NVO. No position in LLY.

Sources:

[1]: https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/foundayo-wegovy-how-compare-weight-loss-3582233/

[2]: https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/take-foundayo-birth-control-pills-3582165/

[3]: https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/contraceptive-experiences-coverage-and-preferences-findings-from-the-2024-kff-womens-health-survey/#2e2b05b0-78bf-43e8-829b-05128409c693

[4]: https://www.kff.org/public-opinion/poll-1-in-8-adults-say-they-are-currently-taking-a-glp-1-drug-for-weight-loss-diabetes-or-another-condition-even-as-half-say-the-drugs-are-difficult-to-afford/

[5]: https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/lillys-obesity-pill-hits-nearly-4000-prescriptions-second-week-after-launch-2026-04-24/

u/bear420000 — 2 months ago