12V Temporary Fixes Work - 4 Days Parked Car, All Good
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12V Temporary Fixes Work - 4 Days Parked Car, All Good

I’ve been using the door lock automations every 3 hours with no issues for the past 3 weeks. Here’s my car sitting unused for 4 days and the 12V is currently at 12.58V.

My threshold to attach a battery maintainer to top off the battery is 12.55V, so I think I have another day or two before it hits that threshold.

Turning off the DCM/deactivating the car from the app is the surest way to stop the parasitic drain, but the door lock automations and charging schedule fixes are good temporary fixes if you want to keep connected services.

Here’s the door lock automation fix…

https://www.reddit.com/r/trailseeker/s/YQb3JlwfKn

Here’s the charging schedule fix…

https://www.reddit.com/r/Toyota_bZ/s/w595XbyYc4

And here’s how to deactivate your car and turn off DCM…

https://www.reddit.com/r/Toyota_bZ/s/o5mLYmHxXD

If you’re interested, I have a H5 AGM battery installed and I have the battery sensor disconnected from my negative terminal. Here’s my post on undercharging of the 12V battery if you want to learn more about it…

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubaruUncharted/s/fi8fg5TYa3

u/chuck415 — 7 days ago
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DC Fast Charging Logic Bug

Here’s a technical service bulletin on all 2026 EVs that may cause an error message in the MID while DC fast charging. It looks like a software update will fix the issue.

u/Feisty-Increase-3707 — 7 days ago
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The 12V Battery is Undercharged! And a fix?

TL;DR: The current 12V battery charging logic is taken from Toyota hybrids and undercharges the battery.

One fix is to remove the sensor on the negative terminal, which puts the system into a fail-safe charging mode and significantly improves charging of the 12V.

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We've talked about the DCM/12V drain non-stop over the last few months, and I think we've landed on a few viable temporary fixes. Now let's talk about how the 12V battery actually gets charged, which turns out to be minimal under the current logic.

In an ideal world, the BMS would charge the 12V at 14.5V until current tapers down to 1A, then maintain a float charge around 13.5V to keep the battery fully charged and extend its lifespan. (AGM batteries want slightly higher voltages.)

Why is the battery undercharged?

The Uncharted/C-HR, bZ/Solterra, and Trailseeker/bZ Woodland all share the same DC-DC converter and 12V charging logic. A sensor on the negative battery terminal reports back to the car, which uses that reading to decide when to stop pushing charge voltage. In practice, it decides "good enough" almost immediately.

You can read more from u/andy_why, who identified the problem, documented fixes, and wrote a full write-up on it here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/prius/s/m8n8cn9Wxr

It applies to our EVs because we use the same battery sensor as the hybrids.

From Andy’s document…

“Is there any risk involved in using the fail-safe state?

No. The name “fail-safe” is exactly that - disconnection of the sensor is classed as a failure condition but one that reacts in a safe way and one that can operate indefinitely.”

Why is undercharging a 12V a problem?

Undercharging a 12V battery shortens its lifespan, often requiring replacement every couple of years instead of every five.

Cars with the DCM issue combine parasitic drain with undercharging, which can lead to a dead battery even if you drive daily.

The last two graphs show voltage drift when the car sits unused for 2–3 days — one with DCM off, one with the temporary door lock automation fix in place.

Voltage starts above 12.8V and drifts down to 12.5V. At that point, you need a full charge to bring the battery back to a healthy state.

Is the 12V battery charged while driving?

Not really. The first graph shows a day I drove from San Francisco to Bodega Bay, a roughly 1.5-hour drive each way.

On each drive, you'll see an initial voltage spike as soon as the car powers on into Ready mode. The 12V charges above 13.9V for a few minutes, then immediately drops to a maintenance/float voltage of 12.8V, regardless of the 12V's state of charge.

On the left side of the graph, you'll see voltage drift down to ~12.8V while the traction battery is charging. What you don't see is that the 12V gets charged above 14V for the first 10 minutes, before dropping for the rest of the session.

Ironically, the only time the car charges the 12V for an extended period of time is when in Ready mode and park. It will charge it for however long you sit in Ready + park at 13.9V. It may start off a little higher.

Disconnect the sensor to increase charging voltages

The second graph shows the difference when the current sensor is disconnected from the 12V's negative terminal. Same trip, San Francisco to Bodega Bay.

During driving, the battery holds a constant ~14.1V, whether your drive is 5 minutes or 90 minutes. That's still below the 14.5V for ideal absorption charging, but a big improvement over the 12.8V float you get with the sensor connected.

On the left of the graph, you'll see a constant float of 13.04V while the traction battery charges. For the first 30 minutes of that session, the 12V charges at 14.12V.

What does this all mean?

With the battery sensor connected, the 12V is chronically undercharged, which can shorten battery life and even lead to a dead battery, independent of any parasitic drain issue.

Disconnecting the sensor improves charging voltage, but you may still want a battery maintainer to keep the 12V at a full charge and get the most life out of it.

Another fix, per andy_why's write-up, is turning on your headlights while driving. This reportedly also holds charging voltage around 14.1V for the entire drive. I need to reconnect my sensor and gather data with the lights on before I can confirm it myself.

Has anyone else disconnected the 12V sensor, or driven with their lights on to charge the 12V? u/Maleficent_Lab4276 has done this, and he's the one who originally brought the sensor-disconnect idea to my attention.

Do I recommend disconnecting the sensor? No, but it definitely improves the charging voltages and I have yet to see any negative effects. Try it at your own risk.

I would test out turning on your lights (not DRL) to charge the 12V when driving. (See August 9th update below).

I would also recommend getting a cheap $30 battery maintainer like the NOCO Genius 1 to top off your 12V once a month or whenever your resting voltage drops below your threshold.

Update August 9, 2026:
u/chrischasesucks verified turning on the headlights (not DRL) does not increase charging voltage to 14.1V. This is probably only a hybrid workaround.

The more I research and read about overcharging, the more comfortable I feel keeping my sensor disconnected for normal daily use as well as long road trips with 6-8 hours of driving per day.

The only time I definitely wouldn't leave the sensor disconnected is in extreme heat. If the ambient air temperature is above 100°F (38°C) and you're driving for more than a few hours, I would recommend reconnecting the battery sensor.

As temperatures rise, the internal resistance of a 12V battery drops, which lowers its required float voltage. Feeding a continuous 14.1V for more than 3 hours in extreme heat can cause the liquid electrolyte in flooded batteries to boil off or dry out the glass mats in AGM batteries.

u/chuck415 — 11 days ago
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Just One Door Lock Automation to Stop the 12V Drain

TL;DR: Instead of using eight door lock automations or the charging schedule method, you can stop the sawtooth drain with just one door lock automation.

First, I want to thank u/Altruistic_Film_8346 for sharing the discovery that you can stop the sawtooth drain with just one door lock, as long as you let the drain start first. Incredible find!

We don’t know why it works, but the sawtooth drain stops if you remotely lock the doors about 3 hours and 20 minutes after a drive. Since the drain starts a little over 3 hours after the car is turned off, any time after the drain begins you can stop it until your next drive by executing a door lock.

u/Altruistic_Film_8346 tested this over several days, and I’ve verified it over the past day. In the graph above (Ignore the sawtooth drain. I had a misconfiguration that prevented the Shortcut from running), my last drive ended at 12:29 on August 5. An automation remotely locked the doors 3 hours and 20 minutes after CarPlay disconnected, at 3:49 PM. After that, there was no sawtooth drain and no additional door locks for the next 20 hours. The last voltage dip on the right occurred when I manually unlocked the doors to retrieve something. There was no drain 3 hours after that door unlock.

I’d like to get more people to test this fix if you’d like to reduce the number of door lock automations.

(Edit: You can test this method out before spending time on shortcuts and automations, by setting an alarm or timer for 3h 20m after your last drive.

Look at your battery monitor graph and verify the sawtooth drain started, then lock your door. That should stop the drain.)

Maybe someone has an even better way to automate it. I’ve attached screenshots showing how to set up the automation.

Step 1: Create a Car Timer Focus
Create a new Focus mode (I called mine Car Timer) that doesn’t silence any people or apps. Also disable all options for the Focus.

Step 2: Create a Shortcut to Set the Focus for 3 Hours and 20 Minutes
Create a Shortcut that turns on the Car Timer Focus for 3 hours and 20 minutes.

The Show Alert action isn’t required. If you don’t want a confirmation message to start the timer, you can skip this action.

Use the Adjust Date action to add 200 minutes to the current date, then use Set Focus to turn on the Car Timer Focus until the adjusted date.

I named this Shortcut Rocky Lock Delay since my car’s name is Rocky. 😂

Step 3: Create a Remote Door Lock Shortcut
Create a Shortcut using the Subaru Connect/Toyota action to Remote Lock Vehicle.

Step 4: Create Automation #1
Create an automation that runs the Rocky Lock Delay Shortcut whenever CarPlay disconnects.

Step 5: Create Automation #2
Create another automation that runs the Remote Lock Vehicle Shortcut when the Car Timer Focus turns off.

Final Settings
- Disable Face ID in the Subaru Connect/Toyota app.
- Enable Background App Refresh for the Subaru/Toyota app.
- In Shortcuts, disable Show When Run.
- In Automations, select Run Immediately and disable Notify When Run.

If you make a trip with multiple stops and turn the car off several times, the timer automation will run each time CarPlay disconnects.

I included the optional Show Alert action in my timer Shortcut so I can confirm to run it and change my Focus. If the Shortcut runs multiple times, it simply extends the Focus end time, so the remote door lock won’t execute until at least 3 hours and 20 minutes after your most recent stop.

Let me know if you have any questions or if you come up with a better way to automate this fix.

Note: This automation will trigger a remote door lock at 3h 20m after CarPlay disconnect. If you interact with the car (open/close doors, unlock it, etc.) within the 3h 20m lock delay timer, the 3 hour sawtooth drain timer resets and you manually have to run your Lock Delay shortcut.

u/chuck415 — 14 days ago
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Alternative 12V Drain Fix

TL;DR: Instead of disabling the DCM, create a shortcut automation that remotely locks your doors every 2 hours and 40 minutes to prevent the parasitic 12V sawtooth drain from starting.

Background:
For those new to the 12V draining issue, read this summary…

https://www.reddit.com/r/trailseeker/s/BTkNH7tg1F

Here’s my documentation of the DCM/12V drain issue with video of the IR camera cycling on and off…

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubaruUncharted/s/Ai6lBiaSC6

Alternative Temporary 12V Fix:
I turned off my DCM on June 23rd because I was tired of monitoring the 12V battery. I haven’t had any sawtooth drains that occur about 3 hours after driving since deactivating my car in the Subaru Connect app.

u/Altruistic_Film_8346 discovered that you can prevent the sawtooth drain from starting by unlocking the doors, opening and closing a door, setting a charging schedule, etc. You just need to do one of these things within 3 hours to reset the sawtooth drain timer.

u/reasoned25 mentioned that you can create an iOS Shortcut to remotely unlock the doors and use automations to run them throughout the day.

Using this information, I created a Shortcut that remotely unlocks my doors when I’m home, since I prefer leaving my car unlocked in my garage, and remotely locks the doors when I’m away from home. You can keep it even simpler and create a Shortcut that just locks your doors.

I then created nine automations to run the Shortcut every 2 hours and 40 minutes. Using a 2-hour, 40-minute interval evenly spaces out the remote door locks while keeping the timer from reaching 3 hours.

It’s been over 48 hours since I reactivated my car in Subaru Connect and turned the DCM back on, and I haven’t seen the sawtooth drain pattern.

In the graph above, there’s a dip in voltage every time the doors are remotely locked or unlocked. The voltage recovers, but I’m losing about 0.02V each time the doors are locked. It’s not as good as having the DCM turned off, but a higher-capacity H5 AGM battery should handle the voltage dips from remote door locking much better. It’s definitely better than having a sawtooth drain(s) that takes the voltage below 12V.

I still need to monitor it for a longer period and test what happens while I’m driving when the doors are remotely locked. I think this is a promising temporary fix that stops the sawtooth drain while allowing you to keep connected services.

P.S. Make sure your automations are set to “run immediately” and the Subaru Connect app has Background App Refresh enabled, otherwise your automations won’t execute the shortcut correctly.

Update 1: If you don’t want to use shortcuts and automations, u/Altruistic_Film_8346 says you can use the car’s charging schedule events to trigger the reset. It’s the stop time that triggers it, so schedule short charging schedules that stops on the 2h 40m intervals. Physically plugging in your car is not required.

I didn’t want to mess with my charging schedule that is controlled by my EVSE.

Update 2: The automations don’t run while the car is in ready mode. You’ll get a notification in the Subaru/Toyota app that states, “That action cannot be completed while the vehicle is in motion or remote climate is on. Turn off remote climate or park the vehicle and try again.”

Update 3: After 3 days, I have not seen the sawtooth drain and voltage doesn’t drop below 12.5V after 12+ hours of rest.

I’ve switched the schedule to 8 automations every 3 hours to reduce the voltage sag. I think the sawtooth starts around 3h 5m after turning the car off after a drive, so testing this larger time interval.

I also ordered an H5 AGM 12V battery with 60 Ah capacity. It should handle the voltage draw better of the remote locking than the stock H4 45 Ah battery.

Update 4: After 6 days, the automations have been running as expected with no sawtooth drain using 3 hour intervals with 8 automations daily.

If you can’t get Shortcut automations to work, other people like u/Blu-ray have implemented the charging schedule method and have successfully prevented the sawtooth drain.

u/chuck415 — 25 days ago

Toyota Hybrid 12V Battery Issue

This YouTube video from a couple of months ago discusses the 12V battery issue that some of us are now seeing on the Uncharted and other cars on the platform — DCM parasitic drain combined with a small 12V battery.

https://youtu.be/m1L6g1qJDxg

It’s an AI video with a clickbait title, but it’s from an independent Toyota mechanic. It appears this has been an ongoing issue with Toyota hybrids and may have carried over to their EVs, since many of the components and software are shared.

I knew the older BZ4X had 12V issues and that was the reason I got a battery monitor within a week of getting the car, but I didn’t realize the hybrids had similar issues.

The main takeaways which many of us have already done:

- Monitor parasitic battery drain.

- If you mostly take short, infrequent trips, consider using a battery maintainer.

- Upgrade to a larger H5 AGM battery.

The stock battery is only 45 Ah. Most H5 (Group 47) AGM batteries are around 60 Ah. My previous car used an 80 Ah H7 battery, despite having fewer electronics drawing power while off.

The 2027 model year will come with a larger 12V battery, so it’ll be interesting to see what Toyota/Subaru chooses.

Regardless of the DCM drain, I plan to upgrade to an H5 AGM battery for the additional reserve capacity. The stock 45 Ah battery is undersized for a modern EV.

u/chuck415 — 1 month ago

70 MPH Range Test Uncharted GT

The State of Charge YouTube channel did a 70 mph range test on an Uncharted GT and got great results! Here’s the video…

https://youtu.be/8T\_LArUVvGE

255.1 miles of range at 3.8 mi/kWh

That’s more than I expected. Motortrend only got 236 miles on their 70 mph test.

u/chuck415 — 1 month ago
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12V / Parasitic Drain Megathread

I noticed there were so many new 12V/Parasitic Drain-related threads popping up in the last few days, so thought it may be useful to consolidated most of the frequently asked questions and suggestions here.

What is parasitic drain?

  • Parasitic drain occurs when a vehicle's electrical systems continue to draw power from the 12V auxiliary battery even after the car is completely turned off and parked. While a tiny amount of draw is normal to keep things like the clock running, an excessive drain will quickly kill the 12V battery overnight.

What is causing the parasitic drain issue on these vehicles?

  • The Official Corporate Story: Subaru claims third-party charging or EV-tracking apps (like Optiwatt or Smartcar) are constantly pinging the vehicle's API, which wakes up the vehicle's Data Communication Module (DCM) and prevents it from entering sleep mode. Here's a link to the official Service Information Bulletin:   https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2026/MC-11034270-0001.pdf
  • The Real Owner Reality: A steadily growing number of owners who have never used a single third-party app still experience overnight drain. The root issue is a known design vulnerability in Subaru's telematics and DCM system architecture. The DCM's internal firmware frequently experiences handshake errors or communication loops, causing the car's computers to stay awake and aggressively pull a constant electrical draw until the small 12V battery is dead. Essentially, the car is keeping itself awake.

What can I do about it right now?

  • The "Semi-Permanent" Fix (If you don't use connected features): A number of owners have reporting that disabling DCM via the SubaruConnect app stops the overnight parasitic drain entirely. Note: Disabling the DCM will kill your built-in GPS, SOS features, and app connectivity.
  • The Monitor & Manage Method (For most owners): If disabling your connected features isn't an option, you have to baby the battery. Buy a cheap multimeter or a Bluetooth-enabled 12V battery monitor to track the voltage from your phone.
    • Keep a close eye on the resting voltage. A healthy fully charged battery sits around 12.6V to 12.7V. If you see your monitor dip to 12.2V or lower (which means your battery is already drained to 50%), you need to act immediately.
    • How to force a charge: Do not rely on remote start or remote climate—it doesn't fully cycle the 12V system. You must physically get in the car, firmly press the brake pedal, and hit the power button until the "READY" light illuminates on the dash. Let the EV system sit fully turned on to allow the high-voltage battery to blast the 12V with a proper charge.
  • "Just Drive!": Driving for around 30-45 minutes, especially before the car is parked overnight, is usually sufficient to get the 12V battery topped off.

What if I plan on leaving my car for an extended period of time?

  • If you do not want to disable DCM, you should consider investing in a smart battery tender. This attaches to your 12V and delivers just the right amount of charge to keep it topped off at the ideal level.
  • You can also consider disconnecting the 12V, or removing the DC cut fuse while you are away.

Does upgrading the 12V battery fix the problem?

  • Short Answer: It helps buy you time, but it does not stop the drain.
  • The Stock Battery: From the factory, these vehicles come with a relatively small, standard Enhanced Flooded Cell (EFB) battery (usually an LN1 / H4 size). Because it’s small, it doesn’t have a massive amount of reserve capacity. When the DCM gets stuck in a telematics loop, it eats right through this little battery overnight.
  • The Upgrade (AGM H5 / Group 47): Many owners on the subreddit have upgraded to a larger H5 (Group 47) Absorbed Glass Mat (AGM) battery. The tray can accept the larger footprint by shifting the hold-down clamp.
  • What the upgrade actually does: Because an AGM H5 battery is physically larger and built with deeper cycling technology, it gives you a much bigger buffer. If the DCM goes rogue, a healthy AGM battery might survive 2 or 3 days of constant pinging before dying, whereas the stock battery would brick in 12 hours.

What happens if my 12V battery actually gets drained?

  • Erratic Behavior & Startup Issues: If your battery voltage drops below 12.2V, the car's computers don't get the clean power they need to boot up. You may experience issues starting the car, failure to initialize system checks, or random electronics acting completely erratically.
  • The Big Safety Risk: In some instances, if you attempt to operate the car when the 12V battery is extremely low, it can cause critical safety relays to fail. The car may actually stop working right in the middle of a trip, which may be incredibly inconvenient or downright dangerous.
  • Irreversible Battery Damage: The bigger long-term issue is chemical. Standard 12V batteries are not designed to be deeply discharged. If your battery is drained consistently, or drops low enough, it suffers from severe sulfation and becomes irreversibly damaged. Once it reaches this point, it can no longer hold a charge effectively, and your only solution is to buy a brand-new battery.

Are Trailseekers the only Toyoburus affected?

  • Nope! This is an architecture-wide issue across the co-developed platform. The Subaru Solterra and Toyota bZ4X twins are both heavily impacted by this exact same 12V drain behavior.
  • If you'd like to see what other sister-car owners are experiencing, check out: Google Search: Platform-Wide 12V Threads

Why isn't this a massive issue with other cars?

  • Parasitic drain isn't exclusive to EVs; internal combustion engine (ICE) cars deal with it all the time if an interior light is left on or an aftermarket dashcam misbehaves.
  • Modern EVs are essentially rolling computers. Because they are infinitely more interconnected—always listening for app commands, over-the-air updates, and proximity keys—the 12V auxiliary battery gets hammered with constant micro-tasks way more than an old gas car ever did.
  • How Tesla bypassed it: Early Teslas notoriously ate traditional 12V lead-acid batteries for breakfast for this exact reason. Tesla got so tired of replacing them under warranty that they eventually ditched lead-acid entirely and made specialized, long-lasting Lithium-Ion low-voltage batteries the standard across their lineup.
  • How Hyundai/Kia solved it: These EVs use more aggressive algorithms to constantly monitor the 12V battery while the car is parked. The second it senses the 12V voltage dropping, it automatically engages the high-voltage traction battery to top the 12V back up, lighting up a little yellow indicator light on the dash to show it's working.

I'm not experiencing this issue. Whats different?

  • The "Daily Driver" Mask: Based on community data, the DCM glitch typically acts up after the vehicle has been sitting completely undisturbed for about 3–4 hours. If you use your car every single day for a 20+ minute commute, you are constantly forcing the vehicle into the **"READY"** state, which blasts the 12V battery back up to a full charge. Even if your DCM goes rogue overnight and eats 30% of your battery capacity, the car will still boot up fine the next morning, and your drive completely hides the drain.
  • You are getting drained, you just don't know it yet: Automotive 12V batteries don't give you a dashboard percentage warning when they are sitting at 60% capacity instead of 100%. Many "unaffected" owners are likely parking heavily discharged batteries, but they happen to hit a driving or passive charging window right before the voltage crosses the critical 12.2V threshold.
  • Cellular Signal Variables: Telematics modules sleep and wake based on signal strength and server handshakes. An owner parking in a garage with a weak, spotty cellular signal might cause their DCM to endlessly loop "trying again" to connect to servers, draining the battery. Meanwhile, an owner with a perfect line-of-sight signal might clear the server handshake instantly and let the car fall into a deep sleep.
  • Trim Levels & The DCM: For clarity, all trims (Premium, Limited, and Touring) carry a DCM because it is federally tied to the SOS/Emergency response network. However, higher trims have more connected telematics features actively reporting data points, which can alter background loop behavior.
  • The "Hardware Lottery" (Component Variations): It is probable that a physical hardware or batch defect is at play. While the vehicle's telematics architecture creates a software vulnerability, slight hardware variations between manufacturing lots mean some specific DCM modules handle standby power transitions and weak cell signals perfectly fine. Meanwhile, an identical trim parked right next to it might have a finicky module that gets easily stuck in a high-current loop under the exact same conditions.

I am actively experiencing this issue. How do I escalate this with Subaru?

If your dealer keeps telling you "we tested the battery and it's fine" or "there's no draw when it's in our shop," you have to know how to navigate Subaru's corporate escalation process. Do not just let them hand you your keys back. Follow this blueprint:

  1. Ask the Service Advisor to open a "Techline" case:** Just like Toyota has their "TAS" case system, Subaru has Techline. This is the formal channel where the dealership's master technician escalates a complex issue directly to Subaru’s corporate field engineers. Tell your advisor: *"The parasitic draw is erratic and happening overnight due to a known telematics loop. Please open a formal Techline case so corporate engineering can look at the vehicle logs."* Having a Techline case open forces corporate to acknowledge the ticket.
  2. Open a parallel case with your regional Subaru corporate distributor. Don't just rely on the dealership's internal notes. You want a corporate ticket attached to your vehicle's VIN immediately. Use the contact point for your specific region:
    1. 🇺🇸 United States: Call 1-800-782-2783 (1-800-SUBARU3) or open a case online through the subaru.com support portal.
    2. 🇨🇦 Canada: Call 1-800-894-4212 or email customercare@subaru.ca.
    3. 🇦🇺 Australia: Call 1800 22 66 43 or email feedback@subaru.com.au
    4. 🇯🇵 Japan: Call 0120-052215 (Toll-free, Weekdays 9:00-17:00). You can also submit inquiries via the formal form on subaru.co.jp/faq/.
    5. 🇬🇧/🇪🇺 UK & Ireland / Europe: Call +44 (0)1285 647630 or email customersupport@subaru.co.uk (or reach out directly to your localized country distributor's support portal).
  3. Collect and Present Your Own Telemetry Data: Dealerships love to say "cannot replicate." If you have a Bluetooth battery monitor (like the Ancel BM300), screenshot your voltage graphs showing the battery cleanly dropping from 12.6V down to 11.9V overnight while completely parked and turned off. Print these out or email them to your service manager. It is virtually impossible for them to dismiss hard, plotted data.
  4. Demand a "parasitic draw test over time": Standard shop tests measure draw for 5–10 minutes after a car shuts down. As we've tracked on the sub, the rogue DCM loop usually triggers 3–4 hours after the car sits. Insist that they do an extended overnight parasitic draw test using a graphing multimeter or data logger attached to the fuse block, rather than a quick 5-minute spot check.

My 12V died! What do I do?

  • Safety First: If you are stranded or stuck in a location where the vehicle not moving is a safety hazard, don't mess around. Call a roadside towing service immediately to get the car to a safe spot or dealership.
  • The Quick Fix (Jumpstart it): Yes, you can absolutely jumpstart an EV! Because an electric car doesn't have a traditional starter motor, a jump pack doesn't need to crank a heavy engine—it just needs enough juice to boot up the car's computers and close the safety relays to engage the high-voltage system. Hook up a portable lithium jump pack (or jumper cables from another car) to the 12V terminals under the hood, turn the jump pack on, get in, and press the start button until the "READY" light comes on. Once the car is "READY," you can remove the cables; the main traction battery will take over.
  • The Patient Fix (Smart Tender): If you're safely at home in your garage and time isn't an issue, don't jump it. Hook up a smart trickle charger/maintainer (like a NOCO Genius 5) directly to the 12V battery and let it safely slow-charge back up to health.

How to check if your battery is permanently damaged

Once a lead-acid battery drops to under 11.8V, there is a high chance it suffered internal chemical damage (sulfation). To check if it's toast, perform this simple test:

  1. Charge the 12V battery fully.
  2. Turn the car off, lock it, and let it sit completely undisturbed for at least 4 to allow the temporary "surface charge" to dissipate. You can also get it to dissipate by turning on your high beams for 3-4 minutes, then turning them off and letting the car sit for 5-10 minutes.
  3. Check the voltage using a multimeter or your Bluetooth monitor.
  4. The Verdict: A healthy battery should comfortably rest at 12.6V to 12.8V. If your battery automatically drops to 12.4V or lower just by sitting idle with no active draw, it has likely suffered irreversible capacity loss. At that point, head to a Subaru service center or battery shop to have them load-test it and confirm if you need a replacement.
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u/ClickForPrizes — 1 month ago
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12 volt issues on FWD?

I have an Uncharted FWD LR(Canada) and I haven’t had any issues with the 12 volt. I’ve left it multiple times for over 48hrs meanwhile using the trunk and checking the app in between. Another user pointed out that the eyesight monitor on the dash was turning on in the middle of the night. My model does not come with this. So I was curious is there anyone out there with the FWD that is having 12 volt issues? If they are was it from sitting an extended time or just a day or two like some people reporting?

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u/Proper_Ad4556 — 1 month ago
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12V Battery Drain

I thought I had resolved my 12V battery drain issue by putting my key fobs in a Faraday box, but it only lasted a few days. I’m still seeing the sawtooth battery drain shown in the graph.

I’m starting to notice a pattern. About three hours after driving, the sawtooth drain begins and continues for 4–5 hours before the voltage stabilizes.

If the voltage consistently dropped to around 12.4V, I wouldn’t be concerned. However, I’m occasionally seeing a secondary drain that pulls it below 12.2V.

Is anyone else with a battery monitor seeing this same pattern?

I’m a low-mileage driver, averaging only about 13 miles per day, and I don’t charge very often. To maintain the 12V, I’ve been putting the car in Ready mode for an hour or so when there’s low voltage.

I’m guessing it’s a telematics/DCM module issue. The drain consistently starts about three hours after driving. Is anyone else seeing this?

Update June 13, 2026: As u/mrmao mentioned deactivating your vehicle from the Subaru Connect app will turn off DCM requests. I deactivated my car last night and didn’t get the battery drain 3 hours after driving or anytime in the last 12 hours.
I’ll continue monitoring to make sure the sawtooth drain is gone.

u/chuck415 — 2 months ago
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Guide to Real-World Battery Health

I found this good article on real world battery health. There’s nothing really new, but it’s nice to see data backing up findings and recommendations.

Toyota is conservative with their BMS and we have a large 12% battery buffer on our EVs, so I feel confident of minimal battery degradation.

The biggest takeaway for me is to limit the extremes SoC on low and high end.

From the article…

State of charge (SOC): Utilizing the full battery

EV owners are often advised to keep their battery charge (SOC) between 20% and 80% to avoid the chemical stress associated with a full or empty battery. However, our data indicates that this cautionary measure is only critical if the battery is habituated at these extremes for extended durations. For typical daily use, strict adherence to the 20-80% SOC rule may be unnecessary. 
 
To measure the actual impact of charge levels, we analyzed how long vehicles spend at extreme SOC levels (below 20% or above 80%) across all states (driving, charging and rest). We categorized the vehicles into three groups:

-Low exposure (below 50% of total time at extreme SOC)

-Medium exposure (50%-80% of total time at extreme SOC)

-High exposure (above 80% of total time at extreme SOC)

The data demonstrates that moderate exposure to extreme SOC levels does not significantly accelerate degradation. The degradation rates for the low (1.4%) and medium (1.5%) groups are nearly the same.
 
However, there is a critical threshold at 80% exposure. Vehicles that habitually spent over 80% of their total time at extreme SOC levels experienced a significant acceleration in battery degradation, averaging 2.0% per year. This increase shows that battery degradation only accelerates when there is prolonged, habitual and extreme exposure to high or low states of charge. 

Why moderate SOC exposure is safe
A key factor in mitigating SOC-related stress is the protective engineering implemented by auto and battery manufacturers. All modern EV batteries incorporate hidden software buffers at the upper and lower limits of the charge capacity. For instance, a battery indicating 100% SOC is chemically less than a full charge, and 0% does not represent a chemically empty state.
 
This engineering buffer likely explains the minimal impact observed from moderate SOC exposure in our analysis. The battery is designed to handle normal use across its entire charge range.”

https://www.geotab.com/blog/ev-battery-health/

And here’s another good article discussing Depth of Discharge and its impact on battery life…

https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/one-simple-trick

u/chuck415 — 2 months ago
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12V Battery Drain Solved?

I normally see a sawtooth drain pattern overnight, with the 12V battery dropping as low as 12.1–12.2V, not good.

I keep both key fobs about 28 feet away from the car and don’t use the digital key as our bedroom is above our garage.

The owner’s manual recommends keeping the key fobs and digital key at least 6 feet away from the vehicle to prevent 12V battery drain. I assumed 28 feet away and one floor up would be well outside the communication range.

On Saturday, I put both key fobs in a Faraday box after a drive, and the sawtooth drain disappeared! It’s now been over 40 hours since I last drove the car, and the 12V battery has remained steady at 12.55V. I haven’t seen it stay that stable for that long since installing the battery monitor.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know if you’ve had 12V battery issues and keeping your key fobs and digital key/phone close to your car.

u/chuck415 — 3 months ago

Muting Interior Reverse Chime

I saw someone post on a 2026 Toyota BZ Facebook group that they used an OBDeleven 3 and its app to mute the interior reverse chime. It does appear they officially license with Toyota and they allow you to change dealer level settings.

On their support page, it states that Subaru only gets basic OBD2 support.

https://support.obdeleven.com/en/articles/5603309-does-obdeleven-support-my-vehicle

But I’m wondering if custom dealer settings will work on the Uncharted since it’s Toyota software. Has anyone used an OBDeleven 3 on their Subaru EV?

u/chuck415 — 3 months ago
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12V Battery Monitor

I’m paranoid about the 12V battery failures some people have reported with Subaru/Toyota EVs and other automakers, so I installed this ANCEL BM300 Pro battery monitor. It took less than five minutes to install.

It has notifications and alarms you can set if the battery drops below a certain voltage. It uses Bluetooth, so you need to be within about 10–15 feet of the car to get data, but it makes it easy to monitor your battery’s state of charge (SoC) through the app.

There will be times when we don’t drive the car for a few days, and I want to make sure telematics requests from the Subaru Connect app aren’t draining the 12V battery.

Other things I’m doing to avoid 12V battery drain:

- Disabled ACC mode
- Never use “Power On” mode (massive drain)
- Always use “Ready” mode if I’m sitting in the car waiting, so the traction battery charges the 12V battery

u/chuck415 — 3 months ago

A couple of accessories…

We got these two things that have been useful for our Uncharted. The first is a charger dock and hook to hang the cable. You can find it on Amazon too.

https://ev-lectron.com/products/lectron-tesla-nacs-electric-vehicle-charger-nozzle-holster-dock-j-hook-cable-management

The second one is this silicon charging mat for the wireless chargers. It’s thin enough that it still charges the phones that have silicon cases. It’s more for protection of the plastic charging area as I think our silicon cases are grippier directly on the charging surface.

https://www.amazon.com/Silicone-Wireless-Protective-Anti-Slip-Accessories/dp/B0D2D3DRGL

u/chuck415 — 3 months ago

Finally Got Our Sport!

We got our Sport in Metropolis Gray a couple days ago and love it! Our dog approves too. 😂

We got a great deal, $7,500 under MSRP. We also couldn’t pass up the 0% APR for 72 months. It’s free money!

The car itself is great, but the buying experience with this dealer was not. I negotiated the OTD price over text, which was great. I got pre-approved for the loan and sent them everything they needed ahead of time, but it still took over three hours at the dealership before we finally had documents to sign.

They also prepped the wrong color car, which delayed our scheduled pickup time by a couple of hours, and they delivered the car with only 17% SoC. I had to figure out how to use a Tesla Supercharger before driving home.

If I had to do it over again, I would’ve gone with a different dealer that had better customer service. The extra $500 in savings wasn’t worth all the frustration during signing.

u/chuck415 — 3 months ago

We have an Uncharted Sport reserved and it’s in transit to our dealer. Most posts I see of new cars is the GT trim. I’m curious why you chose the GT over the Sport?

We’re choosing the Sport for the additional range and more sidewall for off road usage.

The panoramic glass roof, ventilated seats, and the digital rear view mirror are nice to have, but aren’t necessary for us. The GT 20” wheels look nicer, but we’d rather have the additional range with the 18” wheels.

We can get the GT sooner and of course our dealer is pushing us towards the GT. 😂

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u/chuck415 — 4 months ago