STOP equating dowry and alimony

I have observed this in many online spaces and also lately in some senseless protests about bringing back Patriarchy, "stop dowry and alimony" thrown around like they're two sides of one coin. They are not.

Dowry is a crime. It is illegal. It's a demand made by the groom's family, using the bride as leverage, It grows out of a belief that a daughter is a burden, and her family must pay to offload her and it doesn't stop at the wedding. It continues as harassment, cruelty, and in lot of cases murder. Thousands of dowry deaths are recorded every year, and those are only the cases that get registered. There are literally many cases which go unreported because of the institutional and police failure at the ground level : complaints not registered, families pressured to compromise, deaths written off as accidents SO MUCH INJUSTICE HAPPENS. Nobody is "owed" dowry. Nobody has a right to it.

Alimony is a legal remedy. It exists because marriage changes one person's life much more than the other's. For generations, women have been pushed into domestic roles, told to quit jobs, stay home, raise kids, and look after in laws. Years of lost career growth and lost earning power don't come back after a divorce. Alimony is gender neutral. It makes sure thar the "weaker spouse" isn't thrown into poverty. In most cases that's the women, but the law doesn't exclude men too.

So one is extortion, the other is support for someone who gave up something for the marriage. One is a crime and demanded because of greed and entitlement, the other is awarded by a court after looking at the facts.

People who put them in the same sentence shamelessly are misogynystic enough to feel entitled to the money and the control, and they're upset that women have legal protection. Whether alimony is being misused in a particular case is a separate debate, and a fair one. Courts can and should look at each case seperately depending on their merits. But that will never ever make it equal to dowry.

Equating them only helps people who want to protect the abuser and punish the woman for leaving.

PS: I am attaching the dowry death statistics so everyone understands how serious this issue is.

u/kothimeeraaaa69420 — 10 days ago

Famous men and their "not so famous" misogyny

We know these men for their achievements, books, discoveries, art, their contributions to science etc, but why aren't their views on women not discussed about among people? It is strange how people ignore the misogynistic views of  famous historical figures while talking about them and focus only on their life story and achievements.

“They were a product of their time” should definitely be considered when looking at historical figures, but does that mean we should completely overlook what they believed or said about women?

I’m not saying we should judge every historical figure entirely by today’s standards. But I do think we should be able to acknowledge both things at the same time, we should also acknowledge someone can be incredibly influential or brilliant and still have deeply misogynistic views because their life stories still shape a generation of young minds even today!! Their achievements and struggles shouldn't give them a free pass from critical discussions of their misogynystic views and their character.

Who are some famous men whose views on women you think deserve more awareness? Especially famous men from India?

u/kothimeeraaaa69420 — 16 days ago

What’s the one thing young boys and girls should be taught about feminism while growing up?

Not just in schools, but something they should actually understand as they grow up.

What do you wish you had been taught about feminism, gender, equality when you were younger?

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u/kothimeeraaaa69420 — 20 days ago

What are some little acts of microfeminism you practice in your everyday life?

It might be anything just small things you do, say, or challenge in your daily life to push back against everyday sexism you face.And why do you consider it a micro act of feminism?

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u/kothimeeraaaa69420 — 22 days ago

Why are women’s achievements often reduced to their appearances or relationships ?

The way Cleopatra is remembered is such a good example. She was a ruler, a highly capable commander and a skilled negotiator who was politically powerful and navigated a complicated period of Roman Egyptian history but most of the popular narrative reduces her to her beauty, romances and sexuality and slut shaming her. She was also a target of smear campaigns run by her male political rivals, who deliberately used misogynistic political propaganda to undermine her.

It's so sad to think that many capable women throughout history had their achievements minimized, rewritten, or erased or stolen by the men because the societies they lived in were deeply misogynistic and refused to recognize women as equals, while the men around them shamelessly stole the credit for their work.

And honestly, the people who recorded history played a part in this too. They never treated Women and their achievements were important enough to be remembered or celebrated.

Even today when a woman is capable, outspoken and confident they are shamed as "bossy" or "assertive".

And when women are comfortable with their appearance, they are hyper sexualized or slut shamed for it.

It’s frustrating how women are often judged and shamed for the very same traits that are praised in men.

u/kothimeeraaaa69420 — 27 days ago

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Thank you, and congratulations to our 1,000 members strong family! We couldn’t have done this without each and every one of you ❤️❤️♥️♥️♥️

We started this sub because we felt there was a space missing in Telugu subreddits. Not just on Reddit, but in conversations among Telugu audiences in general, feminism is still something we don’t talk about enough.We wanted to create a place for awareness, and a space where we can learn, unlearn, and apply feminism in our daily lives and We love that we get to be a part of making this possible.

What makes this place special is your contributions and the perspectives each and everyone of you bring. We thank everyone for making this sub information and knowledge rich while also ensuring it remains a safe place for discussions and we hope everyone continues to keeps it this way.

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u/kothimeeraaaa69420 — 30 days ago

Apothecary diaries is almost a perfect anime

In In 99 percent of the animes, the roles of women are either sidelined or are hyper sexualized who just exist for the sake of the male lead.  But Apothecary Diaries isn't like that.  It's so refreshing!

Maomao is a well written protagonist. She has her own goals and personality and uses her wits to solve the problems instead of relying on men in the show to come and save her. Also all the other women in the series are very much relevant and independent. The plot gives them enough depth and agency without reducing them to props.

But there are definitely some major flaws with the show. I don't like how Jinshi is constantly trying to push boundaries with mao mao , The story tries to paint this as comedy, treating Maomao's discomfort as a punchline rather than depicting the discomforting reality of that situation.

Despite this, I still find Maomao to be one of the most refreshing female protagonists I've seen in a long time in an anime. It’s a decent show, do give it a try.

u/kothimeeraaaa69420 — 1 month ago

Where do you draw the line between choice and burden ?

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Recently A Swedish minister brought her baby to an EU conference, saying that she was happy not to "have to choose between being a present minister and a present mother" .

Despite the fact that this situation can be perceived as a way to empower mothers, doesnt it really set a bad precedent ?

Isn't this reinforcing the idea that women/mothers should be the natural care takers of the child even if it means they have to be burdened with a "double shift" of both work and child care??

u/kothimeeraaaa69420 — 1 month ago

Why did Sita need Rama to save her?

Why does the Ramayana strip its most powerful female character of her agency?

She is literally the incarnation of Adi Shakti She had the power to protect herself and destroy Ravana.

But the story turns her into a captive who waits for a man to come and rescue her. She even turns down Hanuman’s offer to escape because she insists Rama has to be the one to save her and reclaim her honor.

She essentially becomes a trophy in a war between men. Doesn't this solidify the argument that ramayana and it's characters are fictional and written by a man? So why is rama worshipped and glorified when the whole story makes an effort to show her meek and that she needs him saving?

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u/kothimeeraaaa69420 — 1 month ago

Marriage was built to oppress. Is getting married anti feminist?

If the institution of marriage itself is rooted in patriarchy, is participating in it contradictory to feminism? Doesn't this mean all women who choose to get married are inherently anti feminist?

u/kothimeeraaaa69420 — 1 month ago

Stop treating menstruation as impure

Oka normal biological process ki why is purity attached? Intha stigma na??? I have even observed this in my family, women aren't allowed to visit temples or worship the god kaani intlo panulu cheyinchadaniki mathram purity gurthuraadhu. The sheer audacity. 🤦🏽‍♀️

u/kothimeeraaaa69420 — 1 month ago

Feminism, Religion and the Need for Nuanced Criticism

It is genuinely hard to navigate being religious and being a feminist at the same time. Let's be honest most of the religions and the traditional practices are deeply rooted in patriarchy.

Being in a position to simply reject the patriarchal parts of a faith while keeping the spiritual core is a very beautiful thing, but I feel it's also a privilege not everyone shares. Basically bodily and spiritual autonomy isn't supposed to be a privilege in the first place, kada? We have to acknowledge that while some women get to experience a religion peacefully, women from orthodox or underprivileged backgrounds often experience it strictly as a form of control and abuse.

We often see people defending traditions by pointing to the past saying ah original mythology lo ila ledhu ani I agree That is absolutely true!!! . But even if a tradition’s mythological origin wasn't patriarchal, the way it is practiced and enforced today almost always is. Defending a practice based on its pure roots yields absolutely nothing for the women suffering under its current form. Manam vitini challenge cheydam maanesi, falling back on the historical defenses just continues the cycle of oppression instead of questioning it.

Feminism shouldn't require us to give religion a special exemption. If we’re willing to apply critical scrutiny to governments, cultures, families, and social institutions in the name of women's autonomy, we must be willing to question religion, too.

Acknowledging that religion can be misogynistic does not mean we are saying every religious person is a misogynist, that every religious woman is completely oppressed, or that every faith holds no positive meaning in people's lives. Criticizing a systemic practice doesn't mean we are against an entire religion.

This sub is primarily an UNBIASED intersectional feminist space. We are feminists first and foremost, and calling out the injustices women face is our priority. Naturally, conversations here can and will get critical when ANY religion is involved. We need to be open minded enough to accept that nuanced criticism without immediately getting defensive.

At the same time, I feel we should give each other some grace. Religion is so deeply rooted in our childhood conditioning, and it takes a lot of time for us to step back and think about it. So Let's keep challenging the patriarchy, but let's also be patient with the process!!

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u/kothimeeraaaa69420 — 2 months ago

"I am a girl child and he let me live"

It is infuriating how these men will be praying to goddesses like Durga and Lakshmi, kani intlo unna aadapillalni maatram vastuvulu kanna goram ga chustaru.

This clip is from a documentary "The world before her" and it perfectly exposes the absolute entitlement these men have. They feel they own the right to completely control women and dictate their life choices. When challenged, they conveniently hide behind the mask of religion, using their faith to legitimize their toxic, male dominated behavior as simply being "orthodox".

But the most sad part isn't just the blatant misogyny it’s the deep psychological conditioning, how these monsters brainwash women into thinking that they deserve to be abused and their autonomy taken away literally just for existing.

This is exactly how patriarchy is sustaining itself generation after generation.Trauma ni discipline antaru, control ni tradition antaru. As long as we keep letting them do it without calling it out, this cycle will never break.

u/kothimeeraaaa69420 — 2 months ago