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I’ve seen people talk a lot about how they think Inde Navarratte’s talent is so unique that they don’t think she should waste it in joining a huge franchise like Marvel, and should just stick to acting in movies that are more independent to allow her to expand her range where she could potentially build a career that almost resembles someone like Emma Stone’s for example (I’m sure there are other good examples, but that’s the first that comes to mind for me).

Even though I’m sure elevating her talent is important to her, she has her priorities straight where she also has to think about work that’s guaranteed to set her for life financially (since she only made $20K playing Nikki in Obsession) and having a Marvel role gives her that especially if she plays a character that’s likely to have more appearances in the franchise’s movies and if she can make this character a fan favourite that seals it for her.

I’m very excited to see her portrayal of Rogue!

As much as people have come to really despise Bear, and immediately recognize that he is the true villain of the story and not Nikki! I think these reactions really compliment Curry Barker’s talent as a writer, where he not only achieved his goal in creating such a controversial character.

But the fact that there is still so much discourse around him whenever it comes to this movie, where people still like to find details that support why he sucks as a person or why he is the way he is. I think is really setting him up to become an iconic horror movie character, in the same way Wish Nikki or “Freaky Nikki” will probably be seen as the years go by.

If Barker went the route that the studio tried to talk him into, where he gave Bear a redemption arc and became the hero of the story. I don’t think his character would’ve been as memorable or would stand out in the way Nikki did as a character, and people would easily overlook the lessons that are meant to be learned in this narrative.

From the very beginning of the story, one of the reasons why he wants to be with Nikki is amounted to more on what she can do for him, rather than thinking about what he can do for her that she’d view him as a partner that any girl would be lucky to have. So too much dependence where he expects his partner to fulfill his happiness is one!

He would be an absolute nightmare when it comes to communicating issues his partner may have, since any time people try to call him out on things he quickly likes to be in denial and gets very defensive about being held accountable for his actions. His massive victim complex would drive his partner crazy to the point where he’s seen as an energy vampire.

He lacks any form of ambition in his life, and seems to be completely fine with being so comfortable with his usual routine that he’s not willing to take risks or think about wanting some thing better where giving his loved ones a better life comes to mind. Girls lean more towards guys who are adventurous, are determined to achieve success and are motivated to become better versions of themselves.

Also because he’s more interested in having his own needs fulfilled that he lacks emotional intelligence, he would never consider or think about what he can do in order to help take care and make sure his partners needs are fulfilled and if his partner has a problem with it. He would view it as something that’s more of their own problem, and they shouldn’t expect him to do something on how he can make them more happy. So essentially, he’d be one of those guys who not only thinks scoring the girl is enough and the hard work stops, but doing the bare minimum would also be an issue.

If there is anything else I’ve missed on, feel free to comment!

Which I think also really factors into why people have come to hate him so much, and rightfully call him out as the real villain of the story!

Whenever we watch certain moments Bear goes through, there is a part of us that can relate to it because it feels familiar like we’ve been in that position ourselves! But what I love so much about this movie is that us being given a visual on this, makes us reflect on how much having a mindset similar to his is not okay and is incredibly narcissistic and selfish.

We’ve all had those moments where we’ve wanted to feel loved by that one particular person that we thought would fulfill our happiness, and would solve all our problems. But didn’t think much about who they are as a person, and were more infatuated by the idea or fantasy that we set in our heads about them. I know, because this was something I was also guilty of growing up from middle to high school.

If you have a mindset like that, you don’t understand what love truly means and you aren’t ready to be in a relationship! Focusing more on your self-worth and having values where you feel comfortable with rejection and don’t take it personal is a very important trait to have, and I’m sure it took a while before most people maturing understood that. Whereas Bear didn’t.

I do agree that they were a toxic friend group, with each one of them showing different signs where they aren’t the greatest people. With Bear being viewed by the audience as the worst of them all, because we spend more time with him and don’t really get to know the real Nikki all that much because she’s trapped in a trance.

But I have seen much worse in other movies like Unfriended being one of the biggest examples!

Unfriended (2014) had the worst group of friends I think I’ve ever seen in a movie, so far!

Like my god! I know that they’re all supposed to be teenagers, but the things that these people did to each other and others was diabolical! They not only spread rumours about each other, one stole $800 from the other, one was willing to trade the others life to save their own, then that same person who is without a doubt the worst of the bunch roofied a girl outside this friend group then forced her to get an abortion and also slept with his best friend’s girlfriend (who is also supposed to be the lead character of this movie, and the way she cries and acts like she is the victim after being caught blows my mind!)

I was honestly rooting for Laura’s ghost the whole time (who committed suicide after being bullied by this same group of friends)! However, I kinda wish she left Blaire alive so that she could live with the consequences of her actions!

He does however find that his character; Josh is more on the surface of not being a good person and doesn’t seem to hide it in the way Bear does. Which I guess makes sense in a way where Josh showed it a lot through his attitude, while Bear came across as an awkward person his cowardice is what makes him a bad person

In that one episode where the kids’ grandma visits them, Miley is bothered by how Jackson is always given more attention but is oblivious to the fact that the reasoning for this is because of how much Robby always puts her first while Jackson’s needs always come last!

Even when Robby (and Miley) are put on the spot, he still shows signs that he will always put his daughter first. Like in that one episode where Jackson is forced to cancel his plans and drive Miley and Lily around to go shopping, and Robby doesn’t even try to defend his son’s case or get her to understand where he’s coming from.

It’s like he’s encouraging this entitled mindset onto Miley, where she is always expecting people to give her attention and be inconsiderate about other people’s lives.

I just finished watching this series yesterday, and Georgia Miller is such an interesting case IMO! The show was a bit cringy at first, but with each season the writing got so much better that I became fascinated by how they developed her character. This woman does some pretty despicable things to the point where it becomes questionable if she is a sociopath, yet at the same time she’s layered to the point where she has humanity where she shows signs that she’s capable of change. But still shows signs of having narcissistic tendencies, where she feels she can get away with committing actions that hurt others if she has a “valid” excuse for it!

One example that I find really fits in this category is Hugh Jackman and Halle Berry’s portrayals of Wolverine and Storm for the X-Men movies!

I was never a fan of how Logan was always trying to pursue Jean Grey, when he knew from the moment he met her that her and Cyclops were already a couple and his interest is another part of what puts Logan at odds with him.

Storm was not only single, but she was insanely attractive and clearly showed hints that she had an interest in him. I think they would’ve made a great couple if they didn’t give him a love triangle storyline involving him, Jean and Scott (Cyclops)

I feel like this is a common trope that we see in a lot of movies, but in curious to see if anyone can think of other answers!

500 Days of Summer I already know is one of the biggest examples hands down!

The fact she managed to do all of this with getting into really tough competitive schools, while having a career as a teen actress and singer will always blow my mind!!

It makes me convinced that she NEVER sleeps!