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Close up look at M1ss Jade SO's Frankendesign
Cailee Spaeny, the world wasn't ready for you
I'm so bummed she wasn't cast for either of these roles. She would've been amazing. She's an incredible actress, I hope she makes it far but damn. I grieve that casting decision every day, idc if the script wasn't giving😭😭😭
Did Ellie ever realize or find out that Abby was the daughter of ___?
"He did what he did to save me. I'm the one that you want."
She knows Jerry, allegedly the only man who could create a vaccine was killed by Joel during the hospital flashback. But has Ellie connected the dots that Abby was Jerry's daughter?
I assume it's easier for Abby to assume Ellie was Joel's daughter. If you kill a man and a young woman spends a long time hunting you down to avenge his death, it's safe to assume that's his daughter or at least relative.
One person should NOT be doing all the asking...
I'm sorry but if you only talk about yourself and convey no enthusiasm to share a connection or learn more about the other person, you need to have better social skills😭One person should not be asking all the questions. I'm surprised more people do not know this.
For context, using Bumble BFF and the amount of guys who will strike a conversation just to talk about themselves is crazy...
I wish we could customize the avatars!
I feel like this would be a great feature to add. I think it would work if someone could change the avatar to a photo they personally prefer without it affecting anyone else! Very harmless and adds to the creativity.
I have the biggest crush on Jude
I find him so endearing and charming. He's a really handsome guy and I love how kind he is to everyone in the workroom. Everyone is so catty, but Jude seems very genuine and authentic. I think I have a crush lol
I will never understand this casting choice
Nothing will ever make me understand this decision, I'm sorry. I have been so nice and even gave season 2 a chance. Maybe Bella is great in other projects but in no way, shape or form do they resemble Ellie in the slightest. It continues to baffle me that this happened, and a team of people genuinely approved this decision.
Was Clark's furniture store in EMG connected to the one we saw in the end?
I heard some theories that since they ripped the walls out, Pirate Clark escaped and entered the complex. Does this mean that he was "created" in the furniture store we see in EMG since the footage occurs right before the opening scene? Is the furniture store the same place Mary ends up in?
I would love for these characters to return in Doomsday
I miss these characters and with they could somehow come back (some from the dead) and fight Doom alongside the Avengers in Doomsday.
I'm hoping they're saved for SW, but I really hope this lineup gets a chance to return to fight. They have such unique powers and could make for some of the best fight scenes in the MCU if we got new screentime with them!
Why is my spam not cooking evenly?
Hi everyone. 18m here, cooking spam for me and my gf. Cooked spam today. They're all evenly cut and placed at the same time. Cooked a batch before these three (hence the burned bits).
When I flipped these around (relatively in same spots), they were all different. The pan was right in the middle. Cooked on med-low heat. Any reason why they weren't cooked evenly?
Did this shot impact anyone else too?
I'm not saying it never happens, but it's rare for a shot in a film to actually impact me the way this one did. I remember audibly gasping when I saw this, and I immediately understood it. It's a very poetic shot that captures both the nostalgia and destruction of Mary's past.
I can't put it to words, but I thought it beautifully captured the thematic essence of the Backrooms and liminal spaces in general: the juxtaposition of something eerie yet comforting.
The blue sky, the perfect clouds, their colorful jackets and the heavy clutter of sharp debris just falling over them. It's truly a breathtaking shot, and this honestly might be my favorite in the entire film. I left the theater remembering it the most.
Deconstructed Chicago building reminds me of this scene...
I've passed by this building a few times on the train, and it always gives me the chills. Managed to capture this photo right on time as the train passed
I'm sorry but this was fiercee (AS10)
I literally thought everything about this look was very successful. I was shocked by how many didn't like it due to the cardboard looking like cardboard.
But I do get that they're on a time crunch, and this is still very impressive to me, even if it's just glueing things to a corset. The styling also fits very well. What could have made rhis look more successful in your eyes?
This shot foreshadows the later shot of Pirate Clark
When Clark enters his store, the sunlight reflects off the glass door and "scans" his store. The sunlight quickly casts a shadow on the pirate mannequin, which is later replaced by Pirate Clark in the exact same area.
Normally, I'd write this off as a coincidence. But we all know Kane is a stickler for details. I fully believe this is intentional and deserved its own post. Say what you want about the movie, but this small detail is insane. Huge props to u/airport-cinnabon for catching this!
What's the max amount of stops your order has taken?
My driver had other 3 delivery stops along the way before delivering my food. I get it that they probably don't want to reject delivery orders, but I did not expect this at all. Usually they have one (or two if I'm unlucky), but a 20 minute delivery ended up taking over 2 hours. I'm a little in shock since this is the first time it's happened to this degree and was curious if anyone has experienced worse.
I read the original Backrooms script (so you don't have to)
The title says it all. A few days ago, I came across this post with the original first draft allegedly written by Will Soodik in 2024 of the Backrooms’ film script. Out of curiosity, I decided to give it a read and took notes of some the key changes to the film’s writing and story. It’s a pretty lengthy list as the final product of the film cuts out a lot of some unnecessary beats. Still, I thought it was pretty neat to see what made the chopping block.
Overall, the script is pretty mediocre at best with a seemingly lackluster understanding of how the Backrooms work. Pirate Clark is replaced by the Lifeform which is just as generic as any film’s monster villain. Clark remains the same for the most part, but Mary’s backstory takes a huge nosedive with an even more generic storyline with her older sister. ASYNC does play a bit of a stronger role here, but it ultimately doesn’t answer many questions anyway.
You can read the full script here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YVAMWRDR6hgEzycn3rpPetGLoa4pSjIi/view
First Act
- The opening scene is much more cliché and follows James Kittredge, a pale, bearded man in his late 30s. His role in the story is essentially the same as Naren's at the beginning of the film, but the camera follows him normally rather than through the first-person POV shots we got. At one point, he even removes his hazmat mask, revealing his face. The film begins with James placing a long row of M&M's on the carpeted floor, tracking his path only to later loop back to where he started. This version of the script has a not-so-subtle theme centered around "coming full circle" and loops (p. 5). James crawls through a crevice with a small door featuring three doorknobs, like the one in the throne room. He climbs through, breaks his back in the fall, and is chased and killed offscreen by the lifeform (p. 6).
- We immediately cut to Clark's commercial where his throne breaks. The rest of the script plays out very similarly, with little to no variation in the dialogue: the therapy session with Mary, visiting Bobby and Kat's apartment, the cowboy salesman commercial, etc.
- The newest scene, which we never saw in the film, is an interview Phil gives to a reporter in the parking lot outside the ASYNC building (p. 13). He acknowledges James as a hardworking member of ASYNC and says they "won't rest until he's back where he belongs, at home and at work." This is one of the reasons I think the script is very likely real, as we saw a deleted scene photo of Phil in a parking lot on set. Someone could have seen that post and reworked it into this script after seeing the movie, but I think there's a high chance the scene was actually filmed as written.
- During the scene where Clark is sketching a map at the front desk next to Kat, the script includes a moment where they're approached by a customer curious about a chair with an incongruous fifth leg. He says he found it downstairs and tries to bargain for a discount. Clark humorously slips into salesman mode, spilling some jargon about its quality wood before offering to sell it for fifty bucks (p. 23). Besides the breaker scene, this is the script's first attempt at signaling that the Backrooms are "merging" with the real world.
- When Clark enters the Backrooms, things play out quite differently. He explores for a bit and finds a check with writing that looks foreign (p. 27). He also finds James' ID and puts both in his pocket.
- After opening a door, he enters a CANDY STORE. Clark eats a handful of jelly beans before finding fresh red spray paint on a wall reading: "3 BIRDS, 7 SECONDS" (p. 28). He then hears the voice of a little girl whose only lines are: "Have you seen my daddy? I can't find him. Where's my daddy?" Freaked out, he runs back toward the entrance. The lights flicker on and off as the Lifeform approaches through the darkness, but he escapes in time.
- Clark's final therapy session with Mary is mostly the same, though there's a stronger implication that Mary wants to 5051 Clark. She picks up the phone but ultimately chooses to put it back down (p. 36).
- When Kat and Bobby enter the Backrooms, the laundry room doesn't exist, and the scene unfolds differently, with Bobby abseiling down the long hallway. The way it's written is a little confusing, but the twist is that the hallway isn't linear. It loops back to Clark and Kat, with Bobby facing their backs. The Lifeform attacks him in very typical horror fashion, repeatedly slamming his body against the ceiling and floor before dragging him away (p. 44–45). Unlike the film, the script doesn't imply that Clark acted maliciously or had any ill intent.
- The scene that follows is also quite different. Clark ends up in a circular room filled with doors. He chooses one at random and enters an area described as "an uncanny rendition of an old Marshall Field's" (p. 47). This makes me wonder if they drew inspiration from its architecture for Mary's stair scene. Here, Clark encounters the little girl again, along with a red-haired woman, both revealed to have the same distorted faces we saw elsewhere. They don't interact much: the woman appears behind the girl, the lights go out, and when they come back on she's suddenly standing in front of Clark, smiling. He runs away and nearly bumps into the little girl, who is now behind him. This part felt the most like the AHS episode, just vibes without literally any substance. Clark then falls through the floor into a pool, except "the water [is] replaced by undulating waves of fabric" (p. 49).
- The rest of the scene plays out mostly the same, but there's some dialogue between Clark and Kat that I actually really liked. Standing on the other side of the "glass" wall, Clark asks Kat to prove she's really Kat. She tells him she knows he's been sleeping in the store ever since Barbara kicked him out, and that she sometimes arrives for her shift but has to wait in her car for him to wake up (p. 49). It wouldn't have worked in the more urgent version we got in the film, but I really liked this line for Kat.
- Bobby's camera is running very low on battery, with a blinking red indicator in the corner. While reading the script, I thought it added some nice tension, as the camera dies just after it's picked up to film Clark at the "glass" wall. At the same time, I can also see how it might have come across as amateurish or distracting.
Second Act
- Mary's half is very different. We jump back to the 1970s with a young Mary and her older sister, Julie (p. 51). In the middle of the night, they sneak into a rich old man's house using the credit card trick. Before they can do anything, however, he wakes up and grabs Julie. Young Mary tries to reach her sister but falls through the stairs, only to hear a loud shotgun blast. It really is as vague as it sounds, and it's far weaker than the storyline we got with her mom.
- Back in the present, Mary and Phil are actually married. He comforts her after she wakes up from her nightmare. She expresses guilt and wishes she had done something different that night (p. 53).
- Mary's book party is replaced with a work party. She overhears Phil and two ASYNC employees discussing something about the tape viewings (p. 55). Mary later comforts James' wife, Nancy, by the pool. She tries to cheer her up, but Nancy is convinced her husband is dead. Mary confides that the grief never really ends. Needing a breather, she heads to the bathroom to take a Xanax (p. 59).
- When Mary visits Clark's store, she finds James' ID and Clark's map. She takes both with her and discovers the null zone. She slowly reaches her hand toward the gap in the wall, but, thinking it's just the darkness playing tricks on her eyes, decides at the very last second not to enter and leaves instead (p. 62). This part gagged me.
- Mary drives to the ASYNC building and sneaks into Phil's office, where she finds a blueprint for a complex titled Project KV31. It matches Clark's map perfectly (p. 65). Later, she confronts Phil about the blueprint over dinner, but he brushes it off with enough jargon to make it sound uninteresting, calling it “a glorified storage unit.” Mary apologizes for overstepping (p. 69).
- That night, Mary dreams about the incident with Julie again. This time, they're on the upper floor of the old man's house, hiding under a bed. The old man drags Julie out from underneath and shoots her with a shotgun while young Mary watches from beneath the bed (p. 72).
- Mary wakes up from this nightmare flashback and heads downstairs, where she overhears Phil speaking with an ASYNC employee. They're both worried that Mary will discover the project (p. 73). In true cliché movie fashion, Mary accidentally knocks over a glass, then bolts out of the house and into her car while Phil chases after her. She ends up at Clark's furniture store.
- Mary enters the Backrooms and explores the candy store inside. She finds Clark there, and the same scene plays out with him putting her in a chokehold (p. 77).
Third Act
- We get glimpses of Mary slipping in and out of consciousness as she's dragged by Clark. One cool scene that I do wish we got has Mary being dragged through a suburban street lined with yellow houses and white picket fences. When she looks up, "the ceiling's painted sky blue. A large drawing of a cartoon sun looms over the houses—a child's rendition, with a crooked smile and squiggly lines to indicate heat" (p. 78). She then wakes up at the dinner table just like in the movie. Instead, Archibald is replaced by the little girl and her fuckass umbrella. The rest of the scene plays out the same.
- Clark refers to the brain as a forest, reinforcing the script's "coming full circle" theme: "The forest always tells us where to go. We're born on a path and we die on that path, and the only thing we can do is follow it around in itty bitty circles until we finally drop dead." (p. 80)
- The little girl starts asking the same questions again, and Clark literally tells her to shut the fuck up and calls her an orphan. She just giggles and goes back to twirling her umbrella. Sigh. (p. 81)
- Clark pulls out a gun, telling Mary, "There's a gun store just down the hall. Gotta be careful, though: if the walls start breathing, you've gone too far." (p. 83)
- Clark opens the fridge door, revealing THE HALF-EATEN BODY OF KAT. (p. 83)
- The Lifeform attacks both the little girl and Clark before chasing Mary out into the streets. This sequence is completely different from the movie. Mary runs into an abandoned airplane and rushes into the cockpit (p. 90). The Lifeform has a real Xenomorph vibe to it, with long black tentacles that literally “slithers up her leg, slow and curious.” Anyway...
- Mary manages to climb out of the plane and into the woods. Believing she's finally escaped back into the real world, she heads toward the ASYNC building in the distance (p. 92). Along the way, she watches three birds fly overhead, then quickly realizes they respawn every seven seconds. This is what finally signals to her that she never actually left the Backrooms.
- The Lifeform continues chasing Mary into the ASYNC building. She descends floor after floor, and the stairwell slowly transitions into yellow walls and beige carpet. This immediately reminded me of the edit scene we got in the film (p. 93).
- Mary runs into several ASYNC workers in hazmat suits. One of them is Phil, who hugs her before injecting her with the sleepy serum. She passes out and later wakes up in a cell across from James who is alive and held captive by ASYNC (p. 96).
- Outside the window, she sees a flock of three birds. She counts down from seven, and the film cuts to black (p. 97).
It was definitely an interesting read, and I was surprised by what made the final cut and what didn't. There are a few beats I wish had stayed, but overall, I think Kane did a great job trimming the script down and shaping it into a much more concise, focused story. In this earlier version, a lot of the material leans into clichés and familiar horror tropes. My biggest issue is Mary's backstory with her sister Julie, which doesn't really add anything meaningful to her character and feels fairly surface-level. Likewise, making Mary Phil's wife feels a little too convenient, and that plot point comes across as overly Hollywoodized. The design of the Backrooms itself feels very wishywashy as it graduates from biomes to completely separate areas (ie. candy store). I know this is just the script, but at times, it felt extremely surface level, and the writing felt arbitrary at times.
In the end, I think the finished film salvages most of the script's strongest ideas while stripping away the not so meaningful ones. It really shows that the "less is more" approach worked in the film's favor, allowing the atmosphere and the characters to speak for themselves instead of forcing every scene to mean something dramatic. Reworking Mary's trauma to center on her schizophrenic mother is also a much stronger thematic choice with the Backrooms, tying directly into the ideas the film is ultimately trying to explore.
This specific location of gameplay is what nostaglia means to me
Hi everyone. When I was 8, my dad got me this game called "Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic" on Xbox Original. To be honest, I didn't get that far in the game.
But I will always remember how the first couple of hours felt playing it. This particular location with the buildings, sunset and pedestrians was peak ambience, and it really did stick with me for a very long time. Any time I think of what nostalgia means, I think of this exact moment of gameplay, just wandering around the architecture. I always thought it would be so cool to be there as a kid.
It's interesting because I remember the map being much bigger and the graphics looking a lot more hyperrealistic and immersive like the games we get nowadays. I also remember there being a lot of pedestrians, but there's only about 10 npcs spreaded around. This vibe was perfect though and feels very 2000s to me.
Hot take on Jorgeous' mug
Was watching the pitstop after rewatching S14 and I actually think she looked so much prettier and better in her og season😭😭 Her new mug feels so clownish and unflattering compared to her old mug
Emily's character design original vs remake
It's crazy to me that despite the remake having objectively better and more detailed graphics, Emily looks so much better and a lot prettier in the original! I can't tell if it's the lighting or what, but her face card is just selling it for me. She was feeling extremely muggy that night and it clearly paid off.