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How do I break up with my girlfriend who lives with her parents

My 29M and my gf 28F have been together for a year. There is no privacy at her place. The house is so acoustic you can hear every sound coming from my gf's room and I can't imagine myself explaining myself to her mother as well and I'm sure she will ask because she always wants to know everything.

My place is also a bad idea because I can't have her drive for 2 hours so distressed back to her city.

In this situation can I do it over the phone?

edit: the reason I want to break up is not her living with her parents. I'm over her. I thought I loved her but the last couple of months made me realize I'm lying to myself and her. I want to end this but I don't know how.

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u/ThrowRAuhmuhmra — 3 hours ago
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What is going on! Please help, engagement break up

Hi all, I don’t really use reddit but have no idea where to turn. Me and my fiancé (f21 and m25) have been together for two years and are both Christian. We got engaged earlier this year and have been looking for Churches and venues excitedly since, including this weekend just gone. Our relationship is great, he is the most kind, caring partner. Everything had been absolutely fine, Sunday evening comes around and after he had been to Church he sent me the loveliest goodnight text, telling me how much he loves me. That same night around midnight I get a call from him and as crazy as this is about to sound, this was exactly his words. He tells me that he has to start being honest with himself and that he no longer loves me and doesn’t want to be with me anymore. I was in shock and was sobbing to which he showed ZERO emotion, I even said to him you clearly don’t care, to which he responded saying that’s correct because he has no emotion right now since he is feeling depressed. It is worth noting that last week he started antidepressants and I’m wondering if this has anything to do with it. All week we had a lovely time and great day outings, he always is so loving and constantly tells me how in love with me he is. Yesterday evening (the day after this all happened), I called him and asked if he would go a drive with me, he refused but I pleaded and he gave in. I needed closure and to understand. I try and help him as much as I can with his depression and wanted to know what I need to do more to help. On this drive he told me the exact same things as he did during the breakup call, HOWEVER at the end he told me not to contact him for 2 weeks and once those 2 weeks are over he will get back to me and let me know if he wants to be with me!!! Please help, I am so heartbroken, I have just got my wedding dress too. I am so in love with him and we are truly best friends. He has never acted like this before, he is so wonderful. I know he goes through episodes of depression but this is different as he says he has no emotion and has just started this medication. I asked him why did u tell me you loved me Sunday evening but by Sunday night you didn’t, he told me because he meant it but for some reason his emotions for EVERYTHING in his life has gone. I noticed on the drive he had also taken his engagement ring off and when asked why he said “Why would I wear it when it symbolises my love and commitment to you which I don’t feel anymore”. Could this be the medication causing this?

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u/Financial_Juice1888 — 7 hours ago
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i regret cheating

i left my partner of several years for someone who i thought things would be better with but now that i finally have the girl my life is hell and i deserve this but im not happy with the new girl … i hope my ex finds someone way better than me all i can is learn from this experience

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u/goulchaser69 — 4 hours ago
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Has anyone gone from dumper to dumpee after regretting the breakup?

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I’m curious to hear from people who have been on both sides of a breakup.

Have you ever been the one who initiated the breakup, felt certain (or at least convinced yourself) that it was the right decision, and then regretted it almost immediately, only to reach out and realize that your ex had already started moving on or no longer wanted to reconcile?

What happened afterward?

Did you eventually get back together, or did you have to accept that the relationship was over despite being the one who ended it?

I’d especially love to hear from people who genuinely loved their ex and didn’t break up because the love was gone, but because of circumstances, fear, frustration, distance, or an argument.

How did you deal with the sudden shift from being the dumper to feeling like the dumpee?

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u/Infamous_Source4494 — 9 hours ago
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I (24F) lied to the man (34M) I’m dating and I’m afraid I’ve ruined something really special. Is there still a chance?

Additional context / update:

I realize I left out some important context about my living situation with my ex.

We broke up about a month after signing the lease and moving in. The contract is for two years and we have tried to get out of it, but unfortunately that wasn’t possible.
In the beginning, we actually got along really well. We lived our own lives, barely saw each other because of our schedules, and even joked about each other dating other people. That’s why we agreed to stay in the house together, finding your own place in the Netherlands is extremely difficult.

The problems only really started when I began dating too. My ex became more distant, and when I told him I wanted to bring Wouter home, he became angry. He has always struggled with communicating his emotions and tends to bottle things up until he eventually explodes, which can result in aggression. This was also one of the reasons we broke up.

Last Monday was the final straw, and he has now moved to his grandmother. This had actually been the plan for a long time, but he kept putting it off. I’m going to change the locks with my landlord’s permission, and my best friend is staying with me for now.

I don’t really have anywhere else to go. My mom has terminal cancer and needs a quiet home with my dad, and my friends are mostly students living with their parents or in student housing, where there’s no space for me and my dog. So staying here was basically my only realistic option while waiting for my ex to eventually move out.

I also want to clarify that I have been in therapy for a long time. I’m not someone who has never tried to work through these things. I know that my past experiences have affected me, and I have actively tried to deal with that. I know my past relationships still affect how I respond to confrontation, especially when I fear someone becoming angry with me or leaving me. But therapy doesn’t automatically make every reaction disappear. Knowing intellectually that you are safe and actually feeling safe in a situation are two different things.
I have learned that I need to feel safe before I am capable of dealing with confrontation in a healthy way. When I feel threatened, especially by anger or the possibility of someone leaving me, my instinct can still be to avoid, delay or hide something rather than confront the situation directly.

I know none of this excuses lying to Wouter. I should have told him the truth and allowed him to decide for himself whether he was comfortable with my situation.
I just hope this explains some of your questions. I was genuinely afraid of confrontation, and unfortunately that fear made me make a decision that I deeply regret.

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I honestly don’t really know where to start. I’m incredibly ashamed of what I did, but I would like to tell the whole story because I’m curious whether people think there is still a way for me to fix this.

I’m 24F and I’ve been dating Wouter (34M) for about 1.5 months. During that month and a half, we saw each other very often. We spent two weekends together and genuinely saw each other a lot for such a short period of time.
We both expressed that we really liked each other. We had even talked about the future a few times already. I met his mother and he met my mother. We also told each other several times that we had never experienced such a strong connection with someone before, in pretty much every aspect. That was exactly what made it so special to both of us.

So it didn’t feel like just a few casual dates. It felt like something genuinely special was developing between us. And now I may have ruined something really beautiful because of something I deeply regret.

My situation:

I broke up with ex 2 eleven months ago. We were together for about two years. We still live together because our rental contract is still running.
To me, ex 2 genuinely feels like a roommate now. We’ve been broken up for almost a year, we both have our own lives, we basically live completely separate lives, and we are both dating other people. I have no romantic feelings for him anymore.
However, our living situation is quite complicated.
Ex 2 can be very aggressive. He has been aggressive towards me several times before, although until recently it had never become physical. He has also become jealous since we both started dating again.

Before ex 2, I was with ex 1 for six years. We were together from when I was 13 until I was 19. It was an incredibly toxic relationship in which physical, emotional and sexual abuse were basically the norm from his side. That relationship ended a long time ago, but I’ve noticed that it still affects the way I react when I’m afraid of a man’s response. I’ve become very afraid of anger and aggression. When I think someone might get angry with me or leave me because of something I’ve done, I can become extremely avoidant and keep putting things off. And unfortunately, that played a major role in what happened with Wouter.

When Wouter and I had only just started talking, we were still chatting on a dating app. We hadn’t even met in person yet.
We had planned a date at his place, but because he was in the middle of moving and still had a lot of things to finish, that wasn’t possible. He suggested meeting at my place instead. I told him that wasn’t possible because I had a roommate. I told him that my roommate was just some random friend.

That was a lie.

At that point, I literally didn’t know Wouter yet. We hadn’t even met and I had no idea whether this would even go beyond one date. I didn’t want to explain my entire complicated living situation to someone I had never even met. It didn’t feel right to immediately tell a complete stranger that my ex still lived with me, that we had been broken up for almost a year, and that the situation between us was complicated.
I also honestly thought it probably wouldn’t lead to anything anyway, because my previous dates had been very disappointing.

But then the exact opposite happened. We immediately had an incredible connection and things became more and more serious. And the more serious it became, the harder it was for me to admit that my “roommate” was actually my ex. I thought about telling him several times. I genuinely wanted to, but I kept putting it off.
A big part of that was that Wouter had made it very clear that lying was a huge dealbreaker for him. That actually made me even more afraid to tell him. I knew this could be a massive dealbreaker for him, and by that point I had become really attached to him and was terrified that I would immediately lose him as soon as he knew the truth.
I know that isn’t an excuse. I should have been honest and allowed him to decide for himself how he felt about my situation. But I do want to honestly explain why I was so afraid to tell him.

Meanwhile, the situation with ex 2 became increasingly difficult. He brings other women home himself, and I try to take that into consideration. For example, I recently saw through the camera we have for the dog that there was a woman at our house. I had actually planned to go home around 6 PM, but when I saw that she was there, I deliberately stayed away longer until she had left.

Ex 2, on the other hand, has said that he is not going to take my feelings into consideration if I bring someone home. He is almost always home after 4 PM and has literally said that he would not react normally if I brought someone home. That made it very difficult for me to bring Wouter to my house.
I really did want to tell Wouter what the situation actually was, but because of my past experiences, I didn’t feel safe enough to do so.

Over time, I started feeling safer and safer with Wouter. After spending last weekend with him, I finally felt like I could tell him the truth. We had plans on Wednesday to go do something together, and I had decided that I would finally tell him then.

But then Wouter unexpectedly came to my house on Monday evening. Ex 2 wasn’t home at the time, but I knew he could come home at any moment. I gave Wouter a tour of the house and we were inside for about ten minutes. We were sitting in my bedroom when my ex came home.
My ex never even saw Wouter. He only saw Wouter’s bag.
My ex immediately started screaming that Wouter had to get the hell out and leave his house. He also yelled that he was going to throw all of my belongings out onto the street. I left with Wouter and the dog, and that was when I told him everything. I told him that my “roommate” was actually my ex. I explained why I hadn’t told him, that I had wanted to tell him several times, and that I had been incredibly afraid of losing him.
Wouter then told me that it was over. And I understand. From the beginning, he had said that lying was a huge dealbreaker for him, and I had lied to him.
I’m not trying to talk my way out of it either. But at the same time, he had also seen with his own eyes that evening how complicated my living situation is.

And then things got even worse.

Ex 2 became extremely aggressive again when I came home after Wouter had left and almost beat me up that evening. It ultimately didn’t become physical because the neighbours started banging on the window, which scared him off.
He has been aggressive before, but this was the first time it came so close to becoming physical. My neighbours took me in afterwards and told me that they had been worried about our situation for quite some time.

Looking back, I also realized again how deeply afraid I actually am of these kinds of reactions, and how afraid I had been all this time of telling Wouter the truth. Because of my past relationships, I’ve become very afraid of how men will react when I disappoint them or when I’m afraid they might get angry with me.
That doesn’t make my lie okay. I know that. But I do think it explains why telling the truth was so incredibly difficult for me.

I need to add that my ex has moved out after what happened Monday, he still has to move the big things (like his bed and closet). He is living with his grandmother now. When he moves the last things he will be leaving his key and I will be living here alone.

After that evening, I sent Wouter a few more messages. I told him that I really wanted to talk to him, that I wanted to show him that I had never intended for things to happen this way, and that I wanted to earn his trust back.
He then blocked me everywhere. At the moment, I can only call him, but I also want to respect his boundaries and not bother him.
I still have some belongings at his place, so at some point we will have to have contact anyway.
Today I noticed that he has unblocked me on Facebook. I’m still blocked on all the other social media platforms.

And I’m honestly struggling with an enormous amount of guilt right now.
I know I was wrong. I know I should have told him the truth from the beginning. I also understand that it probably hurts him even more because he had been so clear that lying was a huge dealbreaker for him. I know I did something that I knew was a major dealbreaker for him. I should have been honest.
But I’m also incredibly sad because what we had felt so special.

We saw each other so often during that 1.5 months. We spent two weekends together. We met each other’s mothers. We talked about the future. We told each other how much we cared about each other and that we had never experienced such a strong connection with someone before.
I have genuinely fallen very deeply for him. We were really starting to see where this could go.
I don’t want to bother him or ignore his boundaries. I also don’t want to try to justify my lie or convince him that my lie was “actually understandable.” I know I was wrong.

But I would really like to know whether, in your opinion, there is still a possibility of making things right.

Do you think there is still a chance of fixing this and earning his trust back? Or should I accept that I’ve ruined this and let him go?

And if there is still a chance: what would you do?
Would you leave him completely alone and wait for him to contact you? Or would you try to talk to him one more time at some point?

And most importantly: do you think he could eventually see this lie in the context of my situation, or is this simply a definitive dealbreaker for most people?

I’m looking for honest reactions. I would rather hear that I need to let him go than give myself false hope. But I also don’t want to give up if there is genuinely still a possibility of making things right.

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u/Familiar-Farmer1166 — 9 hours ago
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Got dumped while overseas last month. Feeling caught in a downward spiral

Sorry this is long.

This was in late July about a month ago now. My ex girlfriend (21) who we'll call Janet broke up with me over the phone while I (22) was studying abroad in another country. We had been dating for two years plus a few months. I was very blindsided by this as we had been making plans to see a concert, go camping, etc. once we got back to college this semester. She was supposed to come visit my parents' house for a week before school started, and we had called a few days earlier and she was excitedly asking me what the plans were for that trip. I ended up leaving my study abroad early because I was such a wreck and went back home.

Janet's main reason for this was that she was worried about me graduating from school and moving away in May, while she still has an additional year left. We have talked about future plans after graduation before, but she was always pretty hesitant to speak about it. She had an impression that I was going to pick my job/grad school location based on being close to her. She did not want me to throw away my life over her and didn't think our relationship was strong enough for long distance. We're young and it seems she was not ready for a further level of commitment.

Janet also said that she thought our communication was bad and that all our conversations were too surface-level. Janet can be hard to reach when we're apart, taking all day to respond to texts. This summer, I usually had to specifically plan a time for us to call because it's hard to get her to answer spontaneously. She was way better about this when we're in the same place, and I let this problem get out of hand because I assumed our relationship was fine and we'd be back to school soon anyway.

She also said she was worried about coming to my house because my parents have had some marital problems and she did not want to be caught in any drama. I told her she did not have to visit if she didn't want to and it didn't mean we had to breakup, but she said it was a relationship-ending problem in her eyes if she wouldn't meet my parents.

I was obviously a mess during this call and tried to convince her to change her mind, saying it was worth it to try and fix things. None of the problems she had with our relationship were anything she had talked with me about before, and I felt shocked and wished she had tried to fix things when she was feeling these problems instead of just staying silent and then ending our relationship. Janet told me that this wasn't my fault and started to sound more emotional and regretful towards the end of our call. She said she wanted to talk in person once we got back to school. I told her I wouldn't contact her until then. I spent a few weeks at home with my parents and slowly felt like I was getting a handle back on my life, doing things I enjoy again and visiting a therapist.

Fast forward to last week when I moved in to a new apartment in our college town. We texted briefly to arrange getting some of my stuff back that was left in her apartment. During this conversation, I mentioned that I wanted to meet sooner rather than later to have that in person talk. I was weirdly looking forward to that chat even knowing it would probably hurt me just so I could try to say my peace and not have our last conversation be on the phone.

Janet's response was: "I'm free for a quick talk on Sunday at 9 if that works for you"

Sunday was her move-in day, and having a "quick" talk on a random morning when we're both already busy wasn't really my idea of how that would go. I suggested that we just wait until we're less busy so that we could have a longer chat since I think there's a lot to talk about.

Janet said "I'm more than happy to talk about how to handle the friend situation" (we have a lot of the same mutual friends for context) "but I'm not really interested in rehashing everything I've already said. I think if we keep it brief it'll be easier for both of us. I don't have any animosity toward you and I hope we can find a way to make peace with each other. Let me know if you still want to meet on sunday."

I started to feel really irritated by what I felt was a pretty selfish response, especially considering talking in person was her idea.

I said "You blindsided me with this over the phone when I was totally unprepared for it. I think it's fair of me to ask for a conversation on my terms. That phone call was not closure, you wanting to keep it brief is only easier for you."

I admit this response was rash and a little rude but I was very frustrated with her being only willing to speak on her terms, and only about our friends instead of what happened in our relationship. She didn't respond to that and I knew I probably scared her off.

The next day in the evening I gave in and said "I can still meet sunday at 9 if that works for you. I'm not asking to keep you for hours, just 30 minutes I think would be good for me to talk and say a few things I did not get to before. I promise my intention isn't just to sit you down and chew you out, I think this would help me heal from this"

She eventually responded "I'm sorry but I no longer feel as though it's in my best interest to meet up. I'm sorry you're still processing things but I don't think that it is fair to respond in the way that you did to my offer. It makes me believe we are approaching this from two very different angles."

This made me feel like I was getting dumped all over again. My mood was already worsening being back in the college town, and it hurt me to lose that one last chance to speak with her. All the recovery I did at home feels like it has gone away and I'm back to spending everyday crying and barely being able to get out of bed. One month I was with the woman I loved so much and I thought loved me too, and the next month she treats me like I never mattered at all. Everything I used to enjoy reminds me of her. I can't stop thinking about it at home, at school, at work. I don't know what to do and I'm worried this last year at college is just going to be a miserable for me.

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u/throwaway8431_ — 4 hours ago
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Im angry all the time

It's been eight months since my (M29) ex fiancee (F28) ended our relationship. In that time ive experienced a roller coaster of emotions. But lately, as in the last two months, all I can feel is anger. Mostly at myself. When I was younger, I used to tell my male friends that it was not worth it to fight for a relationship if the person constantly misunderstood you or brought up break up in every conversation. Yet for the first time, I broke my own rule and fought until the last second. I embarassed myself in a way I never thought possible and looking back, all I feel is anger at myself for absorbing insults, disrespect etc without any pushback. Im detached now but I feel anger at myself for being so attached i begged someone to stay. Is it normal to feel like this eight months out? I wish there was a time machine I could use to unbeg and retract all that pathetic groveling.

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u/Fluffy_Swing_5049 — 6 hours ago

My (31F) boyfriend (33M) of 8 months is breaking up with me and I'm at a loss.

My boyfriend and I have been seeing each other for 8 months. We've met each other's families and even introduced our parents to each other less than a week ago. I've been feeling like he had a wall up for the last few days and I'm not one to let things dwell. I have extremely high anxiety and am on medication for it but it overwhelms me if I don't speak. He has always texted me good morning every single day before work, so when I didn't get a text this morning I just texted to ask if I was imagining things to try to calm myself down.

As far as I can tell our relationship has been extremely good. We've never really fought, if we have a disagreement we talk and quickly compromise. We like doing the same things and have the same interests. It doesn't feel like a clingy relationship. We like each others friends, we game every once in awhile online together, we go out to concerts or arcades. We've traveled together and there's honestly nothing that I can think of as to why he wants to end things.

He lives about a 40 minute drive from me and he agreed to meet halfway after work, but I am honestly freaking out. I am stuck at work for another 6 hours and my mind is reeling. I am feeling like he's already made up his mind but I don't want to lose him. I guess I'm just looking for advise. Is there anything I can say or do? I genuinely felt like I would spend the rest of my life with this man and the thought of losing him makes me feel sick.

u/idkjustathrowaway04 — 12 hours ago
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F28 with M28-hubby has a fixation on a woman he’s met in the past but never dated . Is it even worth staying if he is preferring digital women especially real people he has met? Constantly checking out what she’s doing more than ever able to see me in front of him

if you realise a partner (m29) is keeping tabs on a person that they can’t have but seems to idealise how can you come back from it. she’s younger, he wanted her but couldn’t have her, he’s been mentioning her on and off to the point I know about how they met, what her full name is and why he couldn’t date her when he tried to: I feel repulsed that he keeps tabs on her. he acknowledged my feelings when I brought it up and let me check his instagram and messages with her. he not seen her in years but she’s at the very top of his suggested search list. as is an account he used to follow that hasn’t posted in years but has photos of a beautiful woman who fits his own preferences. it’s turning my stomach. His most suggested account was the woman he is often mentioning to me. She Was 19 when he was 25 and that was the year we started dating. He still likes her posts. He knows what she is going for work. He tells me how talented she is when I was trying to get excited about my own artist work last week. how can a woman he once liked in 2022 still be so important to him. it feels like I am no longer even a woman to him

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u/Used-Blackberry-3252 — 10 hours ago
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Girlfriend [22F] of almost three years broke up with me [23M] over FaceTime and wants to meet up in a month. Any advice?

To give some context, we have known each other for almost four years; we met at a university club. After some time, we hit it off and hung out for a month, but I was going abroad for four months, so I ended things with her face-to-face and respectfully. After I returned, I wanted to apologize to her, and I did. We became friends but couldn’t stay just friends for long and began dating shortly after (initiated by me).

We had our ups and downs. While I was living in a dorm, she was staying with her family, so in the evenings we started hanging out in her car. However, her family always demanded that she come home early. I was very frustrated, and we always argued over this. I wanted her to stand up for herself or tell some white lies like "I am staying with a friend" to spend more time with me, or maybe stay in her car overnight with me, but she always refused and said it would be impossible and inconvenient. After I moved into a house with a couple of friends, I found out she could actually lie to her family, and she began staying over once a week, but never twice.

She would usually time her sleepovers at my place with nights she went out partying with friends, coming home late (around 2:00 AM) just to sleep. She would then leave before 5:00 PM the next day. I felt like she always prioritized plans with her friends, and I was just the backup option if those plans fell through. I wanted to sit down and plan actual dates, but she never had time or was always tired since she worked part-time and had less free time than me. Our average date frequency was less than once a week (I know because I was counting).

For this summer, we have been talking about going on a vacation abroad. She said she wanted me to plan everything, but I wanted us to plan it together. We couldn't find the time, and then I got accepted as a summer intern in a different city, so the whole plan died. I tried to find alternatives, like meeting up over a weekend and maybe requesting two days off to extend the trip. Again, we couldn't find time to plan, and she never initiated any long conversations about it. Our talks were always just end-of-the-day reports, then sleep, and back to work the next day. After fighting about this, we agreed to rent a place for a weekend in the city where I was working to spend some time together. This was the first time in 2.5 years that she was going to travel to see me. I had always offered to have her visit my family home over the summer, but she always refused. She wouldn't even introduce me to her family, who lives in the same city I attend university in (I introduced her to my family when they visited me, even though they live 8 hours away). Her excuse was that her family wasn't asking to meet me.

So, she asked her parents if she could travel to my city for sightseeing and to meet me. Her parents asked if she would be sleeping in the same bed as me. She lied and said we wouldn't be, and that she was renting a separate place. This conversation felt so absurd that I sarcastically asked her “How old are we? to emphasize that her family was creating unnecessary boundaries like we were children. This was a turning point. We were 8 hours away from each other, having these conversations over FaceTime. She got very offended and told me to stop commenting on her family's decisions. I told her it was impossible because this issue was affecting every aspect of our relationship. My comments were about issues we both were suffering from. I felt that instead of depending on each other, she just wanted to ignore and never talk about how her family was limiting her at 22 years old because it stressed her out.

I had always told myself that after we graduated, we wouldn't have to deal with this anymore. I patiently waited for three years and only wanted to express my feelings. One thing led to another, and she said we weren't healthy for each other. She broke up with me over FaceTime, even though we had already rented an Airbnb for the following week. I asked how she could do this over the phone instead of showing the love and respect we had by at least breaking up with me face-to-face. I told her we should still meet up since the place was already rented. She said no and insisted it was for the best.

I haven't crashed out or even cried since then. Probably because I was going to call her the day before to brake up, but I wanted to spend the weekend together first to see if I still cared and wanted to stay with her. I didn't and she dumped me. This was yesterday.

She had some things left at my place in her city so today, I wrote her that she can contact my housemate and get them but she wanted to talk one last time after I return for uni. It is gonna be a month till I return. I said that, I am not promising but okay. Can you give me any advice on meeting up with her? We are already broken up, I don’t think I want to see her again and told her after we are done talking over the phone it would be completely over and I would never return on any circumstances. I am an emotional and overthinking person and think that cutting complete contact after breaking up is always better than staying friends. Help please.

TL;DR: Girlfriend of 3 years broke up with me over FaceTime right before a planned trip because we argued about her strict family boundaries. I told her it was completely over, but now she wants to meet up and talk in a month when I return to university. I don't want to be friends. Any advice about meeting with her?

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u/berkewk — 9 hours ago
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Why are ex’s so mean after a break up

I (22F) was dating this girl (28F) for 2 years. I never cheated or did anything bad ever I never gave her any type of issue . Back in February we started having some major problems because of her and they kept getting worse as time went on. She cheated on me multiple times and we finally broke up on May 9th. We went no contact for a week but we started talking again and we talked everyday and eventually talked about getting back together. she got cold and distant out of nowhere and ended up confessing she was talking to someone else so i let her be. She comes back saying she misses me and wants this to work and I stupidly took her back and we started talking about fixing things. I had moved to California in the time we separated and she convinced me coming home would be good for our relationship so I booked a flight home and the day before my flight she blocks me cause I “overstimulated” her. Anyways I started texting her as I’m going home and she said she don’t love me and she wishes me the best but it was already to late to back out. In the past month I have reached out trying to figure out what exactly happened ( I did get my answer) but every time I reached out she was so disgustingly mean . She said she’s fully moved on and She called me ugly, she said I’m not patient and this new girl is better than me in a lot of ways. She says she’s happier where she’s at and she’s not coming back and that I’m mental and need to move on with my life. It’s just so mean she’s even had her new gf message me telling me how they were sleeping together the whole time. I honestly don’t know why she’s would even respond if she’s “fully moved on “. But now I’ve now been home a full
Month by myself and I’m still so hurt and like I understand that it’s my fault for allowing her back so many times but this was my first adult relationship and I really wanted it to work. at this point I’m not mad she has a gf or anything because i genuinely do want her happy but i guess i just don’t understand why she’s so mean? Has anyone else experienced this type of treatment after a break up that really wasn’t your fault? Do people ever regret treating people like this? What could be the reason for her acting like that?

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u/Aggressive_Mango_339 — 7 hours ago
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Non compatibility advice

My ex broke up with me almost 4 weeks ago because he said we are not compatible and does not see us growing old together. We dated for a year and a half. Wouldn’t you notice non compatibility say in the first couple months and also what makes a relationship non compatible? I also became attached to his kids and they loved me so this breakup is extra hard. I thought we were a great match and got along so well so I certainly was blindsided by all of this. He said he thought about it for a while and didn’t want to prolong the breakup. Ugh this sucks I miss him and his kids so much.

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u/AJY0224 — 6 hours ago
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What do men do after regreting hurting that one girl?? ( Genuine Question for men)

As a girl myself, I really want to ask genuinly that do all of you have that one girl in your life whom you regret hurting?? Because ive seen a lot of men going through this experience, and im not just talking about a lil hurt, im talking about deeply hurting a girl's feelings and later regrting, that you should've chose her. Do men fall in love with that girl, or the regret? Do you ever approach that girl to apologize or talk? Do you fall in love with her? Do you remember her or just find alternatives? And most importantly, why do you guys hurt girls and later regret it?? All these questions are genuine and respectful, please tell your stories respectfully and openly. I really wanna know.

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u/Horror-Candy-4404 — 12 hours ago
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I left someone who truly loved me, got cheated on by the person I chose, and now I regret everything

I’m struggling with something that has been affecting my mental peace, and I genuinely want an outside perspective.

I was in a relationship for about four years. My ex was less professionally qualified than me, and that was something I initially struggled with, but I stayed because he was extremely supportive, caring, and emotionally present. He sacrificed a lot for me and, in many ways, put my wellbeing before his own.

However, the relationship also had serious problems. He was very possessive and controlling, stubborn, and he had an alcohol/drug addiction that he hid from me for a long time. Eventually, I reached a point where I couldn't continue.

During that relationship, I became involved with someone else in a long-distance relationship. I cheated on my partner, eventually told him the truth, and ended our relationship quite suddenly.

The person I left him for later cheated on me, manipulated me, and played with my emotions. Eventually, he married someone who, professionally speaking, is more successful than me. That experience completely broke something in me. For the first time, I understood what it feels like to be betrayed by someone you trusted.

Meanwhile, my first ex kept hoping that I would come back for a long time. But by then, I had moved into another serious relationship, so I didn't go back.

Now, four years after our breakup, I find myself missing my first ex terribly. I miss the way he cared about me, the emotional support he gave me, and the feeling that someone genuinely had my back. I also feel enormous guilt because I now understand how deeply I must have hurt him.

The problem is that he has moved on. He is committed to someone else and is apparently getting married soon.

I feel completely stuck. I can't go back to him, and I also don't feel emotionally capable of fully investing in another relationship right now. At the same time, I can't seem to stop thinking about what I lost.

I know I made mistakes. I cheated, I hurt someone who loved me, and I made choices that I regret deeply. I'm not looking for people to tell me that I did nothing wrong. I know I did.

What I don't know is how to move forward from here.

Am I actually missing him, or am I missing the way he loved and cared for me?

How do you deal with the regret of losing someone because of your own choices when you know you can never go back?

And if you've been through something similar, how did you finally make peace with it?

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u/Admirable_Barber4984 — 10 hours ago
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I ruined my dream relationship because of my own insecurities.

So my boyfriend just broke up with me on Aug 9th… first off, let me say that we we’re best friends before (6 months before) and he waited for me and helped me through a bad situation going on in my life. He was the one person always there for me. I could tell him anything and he’d never judge me. Ok, so the relationship was great in the beginning. We always went fishing together and had so many amazing memories (some of the best times of my life) stuff out of a movie. Several months in I started to self sabotage because it seemed to good to me true. There’s no way this person truly loves me? There’s just no way. I started getting overly emotional and saying things like, “ maybe we should break up, I don’t think this is going to work” things I didn’t mean at all. Also, when I didn’t get his attention I felt not beautiful. Even though I knew he thought I was beautiful logically, it just wasn’t clicking. I never felt like I was enough even though, looking back at all of our memories, he always made it clear that I was. Ok, so he went to a trip to Idaho for an internship. I joined him about a couple weeks in. Everything was great until I started going a little stir crazy bc we were b a tiny apartment and never had the space to really think logically. I think it was really stressing him out. He didn’t understand the panic attack and the constant worrying. He’d play games for hours and I’d overthink bc he wasn’t giving me the attention. There’s also the stress of the fact he might get offered a job and it could possibly be in another state. (Not in the south where I live). We always talked about doing long distance and making it work and then me moving out there at some point. That was causing a lot of stress on me and he kinda freaked out one day and was like maybe this isn’t gonna work. But decided that if I’m willing to work through it and chance my thinking and not say the breaking up thing… it’ll work. Rest of the trip was great. Then when I got back home ( he was there for a couple of weeks after I left) I called him a lot (not like every two minute) but like 3 times a day. He didn’t seem to be putting the effort in and he said bc you don’t give me the chance to because you’re always calling. I stopped calling as much as it got a little better but I asked him about why he doesn’t do the flowers and nice texts anymore and he broke down crying and said he’s scared I’m going to leave him if he moves and that he couldn’t even imagine his life without me. I reassured him and all the effort came back. I was the one thinking more logically at the moment. The next two days were fine but then I started to overthink it again bc he had been doing the same (he doesn’t usually overthink). I started to believe long distance wouldn’t work but I wanted to try. When I saw him for our date (when he got back) it went great but he was talking about it at dinner. I kinda got upset a little. After the movie we went back to the car and well we were intimate and it was perfect but after I got a little upset and started crying bc I was scared and said maybe this isn’t gonna work while he was saying it will if we are both in it. He was comforting me and I said are you ready to go back? So when he dropped me off he said he loved me so much and I didn’t even kiss him or say it back. Then I called him the same night and we talked about it and in a way I feel like I was playing games saying oh maybe this isn’t gonna work bc I was really upset. And the next day he broke it off bc he said I haven’t changed and that it isn’t working.

Obviously no one was there for the good moments so you might say oh he never loved me… but he definitely did. We had something very special. I just screwed up. I really want him back and I keep holding on the the chance he will come back. I was thinking abt maybe reaching out in a month or two (not begging for him back but saying I hate how we left things and check in) I mean we were best friends. We didn’t everything together. I need advice. He’s a very logical person and I feel like I may be delusional lol.

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u/SavingsBar7183 — 9 hours ago

If someone suddenly stopped texting you, would you ask why or just let them go?

I've been thinking about this lately.

Imagine you've been talking to someone regularly. Nothing bad happened, no argument, no obvious reason - and then one day their replies become shorter, slower, and eventually they basically disappear.

Would you actually ask them what happened, or would you take the hint and stop reaching out?

I'm genuinely curious because I feel like people handle this very differently. Some want an explanation, while others think that silence is the explanation.

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u/CompetitivePotato779 — 8 hours ago
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3-year relationship, engagement, breakup : 2 Different reality versions

I’m not looking for people to tell me that I was right and she was wrong.

I’m also not looking for people to tell me that her BPD explains everything.

I want a reality check.

Because right now I feel like I’m looking at two completely different histories of the same three-year relationship.

I’m 26M. She’s 26F. She has been diagnosed with BPD for years. I have a diagnosis history of bipolar disorder and newly diagnosed with ADHD aswell, and the last couple of years have involved medication changes (even wrong doings by the doctor after removing all mood stabilizers and loading me full of SSRis to "Activate a manic phase" during a deep down phase part of the usual cycle), burnout, periods of depression, emotional shutdown, and increasingly poor functioning.

We were together for about three years, until the 24th of July.

We got engaged this year (and it was the promise i made to her since we started that if we continue in 2026 i will make the engagement ceremony)

How the relationship started

She had previously been in a physically abusive relationship (as reported by her).

When we got together, I was very serious about building something stable with her. Early in the relationship I told her that I intended to get engaged to her in 2026 when she said she wants something really serious and she's done with games and fuck-up relationships..

That became something she waited for.

For years, we talked about our future, marriage, family, etc...
I wasn't perfect during those three years. I could become withdrawn, depressed, emotionally unavailable, overwhelmed, or need space. But I genuinely believed that I was loving her and trying to build a life with her.

And during the period of the relationship, she explicitly told me that I was doing exactly that.

She told me things like:

  • I made her feel safe.
  • I was healing parts of her childhood.
  • I treated her like a princess.
  • I was the person she wanted.
  • She felt protected with me.
  • She loved me deeply.
  • I was one of the best things that happened to her.
  • I MADE HER FEEL THE SAFETY HER FATHER FAILED TO DO

and i realized that when i got back to our 3 years of history and conversations, she never missed a chance to say that she loves me and/or i make her feel safe, especially after our dates, or intimate times when we spend the day together

They were often extremely affectionate, intimate and emotionally deep.

And she would come out of them telling me how much she loved me and how safe and happy she felt.

March 15, 2026 — our engagement

She had previously been in a physically abusive relationship, so I knew commitment and security carried a lot of emotional significance for her.

This was huge for both of us.

Especially because I had told her from the beginning I wanted to marry/engage her, and I actually followed through.

For a while afterward, she became even more affectionate and expressive, that's what i deduced from the social media messages

There were many messages where she told me how grateful she was, how much she loved me, how much my efforts meant to her, etc.

Looking back now, this period is extremely confusing because today she describes the relationship as having been essentially miserable for a long time.

Both families were involved.

I gave her the ring.

I kept the promise I'd made years earlier.

And after the engagement, there was a period where our affection was actually stronger than before.

Not necessarily more frequent — life was already exhausting — but more intense.

This is also when I have a lot of messages from her expressing gratitude, safety, affection and happiness.

Things like:

"You make me feel safe."

"I'm grateful for you."

"You're my blessing."

"I'm grateful for the efforts you make."

"I'm grateful to have you."

That is one of the contradictions I'm trying to understand.

My mental health deteriorated badly

Around March 2024, I had started changing psychiatric treatments, and over time my mental health progressively deteriorated.

March 2024 → 2026 — my decline

My mental-health deterioration didn't start in July. It had been building.

Around March 2024, I changed psychiatric treatment.

I initially didn't understand how much the change was affecting me.

Over time my functioning became progressively worse.

I had periods of depression, insomnia, racing thoughts, emotional flooding, anxiety, burnout, withdrawal and poor emotional availability.

At different times I was on/off different psychiatric medications, with changing doctors and treatment approaches.

about the changes in doctors ( she persuaded me into it since i knew her, and i accepted in early 2025) and eventually a treatment situation that, in hindsight, was not working well for me since the new doctor applied a really weird protocol or used me as a lab rat and tested stuff on me (Imagine wanting to trigger a manic phase in a bipolar by removing his mood stabilizers and loading him full of a combo of SSRIs..)

By early 2026 I was in a much more fragile place.

I started taking methylphenidate/Ritalin for ADHD, while there were also complications around my bipolarity since the new doctor she took me to fucked up on bipolarity..

Eventually things deteriorated enough that I had a serious burnout period and stopped working for around two months in April/May.

By 2026, things were becoming significantly worse.

I was dealing with ADHD, bipolar symptoms, severe exhaustion, depression, insomnia, racing thoughts, emotional flooding and burnout.

I took approximately two months away from work around April/May because I was completely overwhelmed.

The engagement happened on March 15.

I went out of work on April 1st, unpaid mental health leave due to severe burnout (not only from work but an emotionally intense burnout, the doctor called it a depressivo-emotional syndrome)

Eventually I had to return to work in June because I have bills and responsibilities.

So I was trying to function professionally while also dealing with a rapidly deteriorating personal situation.

And this is important:

I am not saying “I had mental-health problems, therefore I wasn't responsible.”

I am saying that my capacity to function as a partner was deteriorating, and I didn't fully understand how badly it was affecting her.

and during all that she kept the narrative of

I AM WITH YOU

Proud of the efforts

it will be alright

we will get there

you will get better

you can do it and i am by your side

at many times I needed several days of space because I was emotionally flooded, not able to contact or communicate and sometimes even leaving social media for days (and always informing her before and keeping her up^dated on why/how, she always asks "but you are not breaking up with me right ?" and i always reassured her that it was purely personal struggles and i am taking the breaks so i can keep delivering to her and work on getting better for us..

There was couple of periods where I took several days away from communication because I genuinely had nothing left emotionally.

From my perspective, I was trying to stop myself from exploding.

From her perspective, apparently, it was abandonment and emotional punishment.

That difference is probably one of the biggest things I failed to understand during the final breakup call..

Meanwhile, there were massive family problems

There were serious family conflicts that I had been carrying for years, and during my burnout leave one of those situations exploded.

we got out of the problem; got back to work on June, and eventually.. another major family conflict happened around July 22.

That was basically the sequel to an already enormous family crisis that started in May (she has all the updates..)

At that point I felt like my entire life was collapsing at once: I felt like I was approaching an explosion. an ATOMIC EXPLOSION..

And because of my own history, I became terrified that She was going to be standing next to me when it happened.

This is where I made the decision that ended everything

On July 24, I broke up with her.

The strange thing is that I didn't do it because I stopped loving her.

I did it because I thought I was protecting her.

I genuinely believed:

“I am becoming an atomic bomb. She is standing next to me. If I love her, I need to get her away from me before I destroy her life.”

I even explicitly told her that I didn't want her to end up at 50 years old living the life my mother had lived.

I told her she deserved better.

I told her to leave.

I essentially told her:

“You have the pass to go.”

At the time, I believed I was doing something noble.

Looking back, I can see how incredibly destructive that decision was.

I made the decision for both of us.

Instead of saying:

“I'm in crisis and I need help. Can we temporarily change how we do this?” -- Knowing at the time i didn't see a way out of the darkness i was in, and i was feeling that i am turning into that person that will be on the news in few days, under many possible headlines, but i didn't know which, the main thing is, i didn't see that the next few days will end well--

I said:

“This relationship is going to destroy you, so I'm ending it.”

That was my choice. And I own it.

So this wasn't: "July 24 I woke up depressed and randomly broke up with her."

July 22, 2026 — the second major family explosion

This is the point where everything collapsed.

There had already been a major family crisis earlier in the year during my burnout.

July 22 was effectively a sequel. Another major family conflict happened, ended with me cutting off all the family members for final and for good, and even FOR MY OWN GOOD.

It was the kind of situation that triggered years of accumulated family trauma all at once.

The breakup itself was explosive

She came to my house with my best friend.

Things escalated emotionally.

Afterward she told me things I'd never heard expressed that way before.

  • She said I had made the last three years hell.
  • She said she had been emotionally suffering for a long time.
  • She said she had been grieving me while still with me.
  • She said I wasn't emotionally available enough.
  • going even to me personally being Not enough as a person
  • She said she had repeatedly tried to communicate these things and felt that whenever she did, I became defensive or aggressive.

Before July: the relationship itself

This wasn't a relationship where we were constantly fighting.

There were genuinely beautiful parts.

She repeatedly told me I made her feel safe.

She said I was healing parts of her childhood.

She said I gave her the care she had never received.

She told me I treated her like a princess.

She called me her blessing.

She repeatedly told me she was grateful for me and for the effort I made.

She told me I was one of the best things that happened to her.

We had a pattern that, in hindsight, may be extremely important:

Sometimes we'd go several weeks without seeing each other because of work, burnout, depression, family issues, etc.

Then we'd have a full-day date.

Those dates could be incredibly intense — affection, intimacy, deep conversations, laughing, physical closeness, talking about our future, etc.

And after those dates, she'd often be extremely affectionate and reassuring.

From my perspective, that meant: "Yes, I'm struggling and I'm not always available, but when we're together, our relationship is still deeply loving and meaningful."

She clearly experienced those moments as real too, I have many old messages where she said exactly that. That becomes important later in the story..

June–July — the relationship is still going, but I am increasingly withdrawn

This is where I now have to acknowledge Her side.

She told me during the breakup that she had been trying to tell me for a long time that my emotional unavailability hurt her.

She said there were recurring periods where I would withdraw or become emotionally unavailable.

She said she sometimes stopped talking about things because she felt that when she spoke, I became defensive and the conversation ended badly for her.

She said there were periods where she was deeply depressed.

She said her hair was falling out.

She said she had even called my mother crying at times, asking her to intervene.

She also remembered a period where I took several days of communication off because I was emotionally flooded.

I remember those things differently in some cases.

For example, when I stopped communicating for a few days, my internal reality was:

"I have absolutely nothing left. If I keep interacting while this flooded, I'm going to make everything worse."

Her internal reality may have been:

"The person I love is abandoning me again."

I now understand that both the action and the impact matter, even if the intention wasn't malicious.

by June I was:

  • mentally deteriorated;
  • exhausted;
  • trying to work again;
  • trying to maintain the relationship;
  • dealing with family problems;
  • trying to figure out medication;
  • trying to function normally.

And I was not functioning normally.

July 23–24 — the protective logic that caused the breakup

The closer I got to the breaking point, the more convinced I became that She needed to be protected from me.

This is where my thinking became very distorted.

I had spent years terrified of becoming my father.

My father and mother have had a deeply dysfunctional relationship, and I grew up watching cycles I swore I would never reproduce.

started thinking:

"If she stays with me, she's going to end up like my mother."

"I am becoming unstable."

"She's attached to me."

"She's standing next to the bomb."

"If I really love her, I need to push her out before I explode."

So I decided to end the relationship.

July 24, 2026 — THE BREAKUP

This is the day that started the entire chain reaction.

i sent her a reel essentially saying: "I wish I was better for you. I'm sorry."

she replied :

"But we stay and fix things right?"

That message is burned into my brain now.

Because instead of hearing:

"Please stay and work through this with me."

my brain heard:

"This is the point where I have to let her go."

I replied:

"You have the pass to go."

Then I told her she deserved better.

I told her she deserved happiness.

I told her that staying with me would eventually destroy her life.

I told her I didn't want her to reach 50 years old and end up living like my mother.

I told her: "You shouldn't tie yourself to a bomb waiting to explode."

From my perspective: "I'm protecting her."

From her perspective (probably, personal interpretation):"You are abandoning me and making the decision for both of us."

That difference is probably foundational to everything that followed.

she comes to my house with my best friend

The emotional situation became extremely intense, and i threw both out the house

I don't remember every detail in perfect sequence because I was already overwhelmed, but the relationship effectively ended that day.

Later that night I sent her a long message explaining that:

  • she was one of the best things that happened in my life;
  • I was sorry for dragging her into my problems;
  • I believed I was protecting her;
  • I didn't want her to live tied to my instability;
  • I wanted her to find the happiness I couldn't give her.

She sent me audio messages.

  • She said she hadn't done me wrong.
  • She said she had given me everything.
  • She said I didn't understand what love meant.

"You pushed me to my breaking point." "YOU ALONE DECIDED TO DO THIS.""You made me go through hell thousands of times."

She said my mind was fucking me up because I had convinced myself I'd never get out.

Then continued with :

"You pushed me to my breaking point."

"YOU ALONE DECIDED TO DO THIS."

"You made me go through hell thousands of times."

She said she had been ready to help but my mind was fucking me up because I had convinced myself I'd never get out.

Then:

"YOU LOVE DRAMA."

This one particularly shocked me because she knows I hate drama and my entire life has involved trying to get away from it.

I apologized.

She said: "If between you and heaven is my forgiveness, you wouldn't get it."

Then she asked me to remove our photos.

She said:

"You failed me."

She then told me she hated me.

Repeatedly. over many messages consecutively..

She immediately shifted into concern for my safety.

She told me:

"Suicide is not even a solution."

i stopped replying and got into a full breakdown mode..

She asked:

"You here??????"

She proceeded after by sending me a video of us together, affectionate and kissing, in one of our best memories together..

We had a call.

She calmed me down.

She made me promise not to kill myself (which at the time i already had the cord attached and ready, it was the only way out -or hurting badly who hurt me (family) and end up in prison... i really was in a really bad place..

Then she told me:

Then she told me:

"You're still the most important person for me."

"I still care."

"I'm still here."

And then she said something extremely important:

"I know fully understand the whole picture, They failed you."

She was referring to my family and what she had seen me go through.

Eventually I told her:

"You don't understand shit."

because her msgs really show she doesn't understand, and if i am not understanding myself, how can you understand me ? it's not even about them failing me.. it's a me taht lived with them VS the me i want to be.. and someone who "understands me" wouldn't say repeatedly they hate me under anger, and wouldn't say exactly what i don't do and what triggers me such as loving drama etc..

I was still so mentally overwhelmed that I couldn't tolerate someone trying to explain me to me.

at the end, We agreed that we will leave the door open to a talk in the future, maybe 2 or 3 weeks from that moment..

Then I blocked her.

That started a blocking/unblocking cycle on her end, i only had blocked her from one account, she blocked me everywhere else, kept unblocking checking my stories daily (and i saw it but didn't mention it or reach out).

and i left room of maybe we can talk a while later, upon her request of taking 1 or 2 weeks..

July 22–29 the family part explodes too

The breakup didn't happen in isolation.

There were conversations involving my mother and other family members.

On July 25, there was a meeting in a café with my mother where a lot of things I'd been carrying finally came out.

I was extremely emotionally flooded.

There were accusations, pain, family history, things that had been suppressed for years.

I left.

Then came more fallout.

July 27 was one of my biggest crisis days.

I had a serious psychological deterioration and ended up going to emergency psychiatric/medical care.

There were emergency-room visits.

And then there was another extremely painful confrontation involving my mother.

This is relevant because the relationship breakup and family collapse were happening simultaneously.

I wasn't simply: "heartbroken boyfriend."

I was in a broader psychological collapse that included the entire family system I'd grown up in, literally the entire reality..

i was basically the Joker-type of crazy during these days.

The relationship became part of a larger psychological explosion.

The Mixed Signals and "You Can Be Fixed" Messages

During the three weeks between the breakup and our final call, she engaged in a cycle of blocking and unblocking me to check my stories (which stopped around August 7). But more importantly, she sent several messages making sure the door wasn't entirely shut. She sent messages explicitly saying:

  • "I am still here."
  • "I still see the good in you."
  • "You can be healed."
  • "You can be fixed." She even sent a video of us at a bar enjoying our time, kissing, and full of love, followed by a message saying: "You are worthy and you are loved and I am still here and we can fix things." She also told me she wished God would take my pain and give it to her so I could be relieved, and mentioned that regarding this breakup, "we don't know what life holds for us." These written messages completely contradicted the narrative she later presented that she had "wanted to leave for months" and was "healing from me."

July 31 — She reached out again

On Friday night, she contacted me from an alternative Instagram account.

This conversation was completely different from the July 24 explosion.

She told me she reached out because she promised me to take care of herself and wanted to give me updates in the form of "her closure"

  • She said she had been thriving.
  • She had found a new client.
  • She was about to participate in an onboarding as a consultant in her field.
  • She told me she hoped I got whatever I wanted because I was still a good person.

I responded warmly.

I congratulated her.

I told her I was proud.

I told her I believed in her.

and it was genuine happiness for her, i had tears of joy in my eyes, like seeing your kid going big and doing it and achieving their dreams.. I Really really love her..

She told me:

"You deserve happiness."

I responded:

"We don't rise to the level of our goals, we fall to the level of our systems. Learned it the hard way."

Then she said:

"I'll always see you that way."

She wished me the best.

At one point I said that if God asked me for one final wish, it would be for her to have everything she deserves.

She said:

"Me too."

"And it hurts."

She asked:

"You still love me?"

I answered:

"Always."

She sent a picture of herself.

She called herself a tired duck — an old nickname between us - saying "last picture of the tired duck"

She continued :

Would've loved to have you by my side.

I pray to God this is the right choice.

I told her that maybe this was for the better and that I hoped one day she'd understand my POV and my last act of protecting her.

Then she said goodbye and blocked me again.

This conversation is one of the things that makes the entire situation so difficult for me to categorize as a simple, clean breakup...

August 1–4 — I start trying to rebuild myself

After that, I created a kind of internal "alter ego."

Not literally a different person.

More like a survival mode: The version of Me who is going to rebuild everything

I started posting things about:

  • comeback;
  • discipline;
  • healing;
  • becoming successful;
  • breaking family patterns;
  • accountability;
  • scars;
  • starting over;
  • becoming the hero of your own life;
  • apologizing to yourself;
  • leaving the old identity behind.

I was also listening obsessively to a new Cairokee album because a lot of its lyrics felt eerily close to my situation, sometimes even speaking specificly about specific events that don't occur to everybody, yet happened to me.. i related to their lyrics a lot.

Icried sometimes while listening, I wasn't pretending I was fine, I was trying to survive the emotional storm while moving.

On August 4, I went back to a psychiatrist who had treated me previously and whom I trusted.

He believed my recent deterioration fit a mixed episode of bipolarity due to the meds and situation the other doctor put me in as a whole, with additions external from the family environment.

He restarted a more aggressive stabilizing treatment protocol as a fast saving approach.

That was a major turning point.

August 5 onward — treatment starts stabilizing me

I started following the new treatment plan, I was sleeping more deeply, My anxiety and anger became more manageable, The dark thoughts became less overwhelming, I started feeling more stable.

I also started spending more time outside the house, I went to cafés instead of isolation at home,I started talking to political/community groups that i was active in again,I reconnected with parts of myself that had disappeared for a while..I started planning projects, I started thinking about work again, I started rebuilding the basic architecture of my life, AND Working on the Alter Ego, the new one that sill cut off with the wrongs of the past, with a focus on buildingthe present to have a better future, the one i see myself in.

And importantly, the more stable I became, the more I started looking backward and realizing:

"Wait. What actually happened in my relationship?"

August 10–14 grief begins becoming more obvious

By this point I was functioning better, my manager reached out and i accepted a meeting from her asking me to come back to work, so i put that on the table as something the alter ego can have from the past self, after all, i am not becoming a whole something new from scratch, some parts of the past should still go with me in the new chapter. They gave me special treatment, even considered the period i was absent in Paid, and put offers on the table.

August 10 was particularly brutal because it was supposed to be the first day of the vacation Her and I had planned together for this year, supposedly first vacations together as an engaged couple..

I started missing her much more intensely, And I realized that my emotional processing of July had barely happened.

It felt like July 23–August 14 had passed in a few hours, I hadn't actually processed the relationship.

I had survived it.

August 15–16 — I reach back out

I wanted to talk to her.

Not necessarily to convince her to come back, I wanted to hear her voice, not through an old audio she sent, her live voice..

Maybe talk, Maybe listen to music, Maybe just sit in silence.

I contacted her through the only account where I believed I wasn't blocked (Linkedin).

I explicitly said: "This isn't an emergency. I'm safe."

I asked whether there was any possibility of talking, I told her the choice was hers.

She didn't immediately answer, Eventually she did the day after..

And that eventually led to another major conversation.

August 17 — the big conversation

I told her:

"I fucked up." "I burned all the ships and the ground."

I explained why I pushed her away one more time (from my POV) and accepting that it might have had been badly handled by me..

I told her I wanted to rebuild what I had destroyed.

I offered:

  • rebuilding from zero;
  • a trial/reconstitution phase;
  • friendship first;
  • therapy;
  • her boundaries;
  • her rules;
  • her deciding how fast/slow;
  • or simply saying no.

She responded:

"We can talk because I need answers"

She also said

"The girlfriend that you knew is long gone."

and

"The girlfriend that you knew is long gone, No longer the nice Person that finds me 1000 excuses and passes everything."

but what was important for me is She wanted the call.

Before the call even happened, she told me:

"We're not getting back together."

"You destroyed everything good in me."

I apologized.

She said:

"I can heal on my own."

"I can't trust you anymore."

"I no longer want to be with you."

I accepted it.Then we talked...

What she told me during the August 17 call

This is where I finally heard her version of the last three years : the relationship had been hell for her.

She described a cycle:

me withdrawing / being emotionally unavailable → her suffering → reconciliation/date/affection → things become amazing again → eventually I withdraw again.

What she told me during the August 17 call

The call actually happened in three distinct stages:

Stage 1 : She started the call with intense anger. She didn't just speak from emotional pain; she deliberately said things she knew would specifically hurt me, weaponizing things I had confided in her against the "male mind" just to cause pain. Because I gave her the green light to say whatever she needed, I didn't defend myself. I just accepted it and apologized, which seemed to disarm her.

She told me during our breakup conversations that she had been considering leaving for months, that she felt she had been suffering for years, and that she couldn't speak up.

She even said that if she could change things, she wouldn't have gone through with the engagement ceremony and would have had stopped it (WHILE MY MEMORY DURING THAT PERIOD, SHE WAS ASKING CONSISTENTLY "her are you sure you are not going to pull back and let me down right ? it's gonna happen on the 15th right ?" and i always deliver on promises..)

Stage 2: This is where she calmed down and told me her version of the last three years. She told me the relationship had been hell for her. She said I did things wrong "countless times" (though I only remember these specific issues happening a couple of times, and whenever I explained my mental health struggles then, she would say, "Ah okay, now I understand"). She said she had been considering leaving for months and didn't have the courage to do it. The Medication Revelation: During this stage, I told her the updates on my mental health. I explained that after my August 4th doctor visit, the new psychiatrist completely scrapped the disastrous SSRI/Ritalin combo that caused my collapse.

I told her I am now successfully back on the exact same stabilizing treatment protocol from pre-2024—the exact treatment I was on when she met me and fell in love. Hearing this caused a visible cognitive dissonance for her. It was a destabilizing piece of info because it proved my decline was a severe medical error, not a permanent character flaw. She was genuinely happy I was stabilizing, but it deeply complicated her narrative that I was permanently "unpredictable."

She said she was suffering much more than I knew and more than she spoke up, and that she actually chose silence over telling me about the things because "i was unpredictable", She said she had been depressed and on and off meds during the relationship (which is something i didn't know, for a long time she kept telling me she was stabilized and without meds, with just eventual anxieties and BPD symptoms appearing and just needing reassurance nothing more, that was practically the whole communication i found when i got back to the history of our chats etc..)..

She said she had stopped talking about problems because every time she tried to bring them up, she felt I became defensive.

She said she had called my mother crying asking her to highlight my problems to me (which my mother didn't do..) She said she had told herself she needed to leave for a long time.. She said she had been considering leaving for months and didn't have the courage to do it (WHY THEN LET ME GO THROUGH THE WHOLE ENGAGEMENT CEREMONY IF YOUR DECISION TO BREAKUP WAS WAY BEFORE... AND WHY THANK ME FOR THE CEREMONY AND Many others whys..)

That sentence, or the equivalent of it, is what shattered me.

Because it means I may have been interpreting the relationship completely incorrectly.

August 17 — the ending of the call

Stage 3 (The Grief & Mixed Signals):

Eventually, she cried heavily. We both admitted we still love each other. I asked her what we should do about exchanging our things, as she had previously asked that we give each other our gifts back.

However, During the call she completely avoided mentioning the engagement ring (which holds significant financial value). When I asked her if she threw it away, she simply said, "I haven't looked at it since."

She is actively avoiding the final, physical reality of returning the ring (i really don't want it back, but this is the standard in our culture, even if she offers to give it back, i might even say no thanks..).

As we were wrapping up, we wished each other good lives.

But then, she jokingly said, "You deserve slaps..." and "You deserve to be hit on the head by me with a hammer." In our relationship, this was always her specific way of expressing affection when she was frustrated with me.

Ending a devastating, final breakup call with this intimate banter is a massive mixed signal.

I asked if I could say "I love you" one last time, she gave me the right.

I said: "I deeply love you, I always will." She said: "I love you too... too much." I told her my door is always open to help her in life AS A FRIEND since she decided we cannot be back together, because she means a lot to me.

She replied that it is better for me to "shut the door and not leave room for hope" for her to come back.

But there is another side to this : The relationship wasn't simply "bad"

During the same period she was describing as "hell":

  • she was telling me she was safe with me.
  • She was thanking me.
  • She was saying I was her blessing.
  • She was saying I made her happy.
  • She was telling me she wanted to stay.
  • She was saying we should get through things together.
  • She went through the engagement ceremony.
  • She celebrated it.
  • She wore the ring and sent me daily pictures of the ring with her outfit before leaving home
  • She talked about our future.

And even after the breakup, she was still telling me she loved me.

So I cannot determine whether:

A) she had actually been miserable and simply couldn't bear to admit it;

B) she genuinely experienced both incredible love and incredible suffering AND i was toxic to her..

C) the breakup brought the painful memories to the foreground so strongly that she started interpreting the whole relationship through them;

D) her BPD contributed to the intensity and contradictions;

E) some combination of all of the above.

That's what I need help understanding.

On the other hand

1. Quantitative Messenger keywords : Global overview - One search with no deep dive..

  • "May god always make you by my side" (64 distinct results spanning our entire relationship, with the most recent occurrences appearing at 6, 9, and 10 weeks ago (May/June 2026)—during the exact period I was in deep burnout and she later claimed to be "miserable."
  • "Grateful": Dozens of entries continuously logged from 2 years ago down to 6 weeks ago ("Im soooo grateful because i have you" at 6 weeks ago; "You have no idea how much i am grateful for the efforts you are making" at 10 weeks ago).
  • "You make me happy": 13 explicit search results logged continuously from 2 years ago through recent months ("YOU MAKE ME HAPPY", "I hope I make you happy the same way you make me happy").
  • "Feel safe": Logged consistently across 2 years ("I feel safe With you..", "Your presence makes me feel safe", "It's so good to feel safe and understood").

2. Direct Quotes Proving Idealization and Commitment

Beyond general affection, her written messages explicitly address my efforts, our future, and her fear of losing me:

  • On my efforts: "You have no idea how much im grateful for efforts that you are make" . This directly refutes her later claim that I gave nothing to the relationship.
  • On fear of loss: "Alah la ynahik aaleya o la yehremni menck hata lahdha" (May God never take you from me or deprive me of you for a single moment).
  • On long-term future & family: "We're gonna make cute babies walah" and "Walah you're the love of my life."
  • On her own self-doubt (not blaming me): "I hope im a good partner habibi."
  • On intimacy and memory: "Even my bedroom reminds me of you," "I can't stop thinking about you," and "You're my blessing baby."

August 17 — the ending of the call

Eventually she cried heavily.

We both admitted we still love each other.

I told her that I was rebuilding myself, She said she needed to heal herself and she's healing from me.

She asked what I was going to do with my life, I told her I was building an entirely different future but didn't give full details, as at that point we are about to become strangers

At the time I even told her I will leave the country for an opportunity that just showed up

It was partly me embodying the idea:

"You chose to close this relationship, And i promised to respond any outcome of this call, so I have to move forward too."

She wanted to know where i am leaving to, I didn't tell her.

The conversation ended with:

love still there from both, relationship still closed.

She said she thought blocking me back on instagram was better for her healing, I accepted it (BUT SHE LEFT THE LINKEDIN UNBLOCKED AT THAT TIME)

August 18 — the most ordinary message imaginable

And then something bizarre happened.

After everything above, She messaged me on LinkedIn:

"Cairokee tickets dropped, go get yours."

I initially replied:

"Thank you but nah."

Then I felt it was too dry, so I added: "Thank you for thinking about me & reminding me about it tho <3

She replied:

"I'll have Emir aid by myself then."

I answered:

"Go enjoy it 😂 you deserve a good concert <3"

And that was it, two people who spent three years loving each other talking about a concert.

Just to add to the mixed signals: yesterday, out of ethics and values, I sent a final text message to her mother apologizing for how things ended. I sent my ex a quick message simply informing her that I had sent it. she demanded i forward it..

The change required from me for the next chapter

I had changed my privacy settings and removed my LinkedIn photo shortly beforehand, part of what needs to be done for the next opportunity is not having much personal public data, and i was required to lock off all my public socials..

I Woke up on the 19th of August to her blocking me on Linkedin..
so I suspect she may have interpreted that as me removing her access, but I don't know...

That brings me to today I'm now looking at a relationship that contains all of these apparently contradictory things:

She loved me.

She says she suffered terribly, I loved her, I was emotionally unavailable in ways I didn't understand, I genuinely believed I was protecting her.

She experienced that protection as abandonment,

We got engaged, She now says she was already wanting a breakup for a long time but didn't have the courage to do it.

She still cried during the call.

She still says she loves me.

She also says the relationship is over.

She then blocked me again.

That's why I'm struggling to understand her..

My biggest fear

I don't want to make the mistake of assuming:

"She's BPD, therefore all of it is her BPD manifesting."

That's not fair to her.

Because i did make mistakes, and parts of the hurtful things she said were true and happened, but not in the frequence she says (from my perspective) and in no way in the same narrative or way she says it happened..

But I also don't want to ignore the possibility that intense attachment + BPD + a catastrophic breakup can create temporary push/pull states.

At the same time, I don't want to sit here waiting indefinitely.

I still love her.

If she came tomorrow and genuinely said: "I want to give us a chance rebuild this."

I'd probably want to try.

But if weeks pass and I've actually started the rebuild my life and the healing, I don't know whether I'd still be able to reopen the relationship, if the relationship is not part of the stones i am building the new walls with now, There would be no way or room for that stone later..

I'm trying to understand:

What do you think actually happened?

Was it massively amplified by my mental-health collapse?

Did I accidentally reproduce family patterns I had spent my life trying to escape?

Could her BPD contribute to the severe contradiction between "you are my safest person" and "these were the worst three years of my life"?

Can a person genuinely mean both?

And what should I take responsibility for without turning myself into a monster?

I'm not trying to win the breakup, it's already over..

I'm trying to understand before I carry the wrong lesson into the rest of my life.

u/FTSIO420 — 11 hours ago

Moving-On and Healing

My heart is broken. 💔 I had an affair with a guy who is married. I know that what we did was wrong, but I still can't deny that I developed real feelings for him. I expected too much from him. He gave me assurance that he would spare some time for me, but suddenly, he decided to stop and for us to remain friends.

I understand and respect his decision, but it still hurts so much. I guess I became too attached and started hoping for more than what he could actually give. Now, I'm left trying to accept that this is over and that I need to let go.

I'm not expecting anyone to justify what I did. I just want to share what I'm going through because right now, my heart feels so heavy. I hope I can heal from this as soon as possible and eventually forgive myself for getting into this situation.

For those who have been through something similar, how did you cope and move on? 💔

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