r/HaloStory

So there's no definitive answer on why the Forerunners rose up against the Precursors, however I would like to try and put together a plausible theory based on the information we have been given. Now I understand that some of these accounts may be half-truths or misunderstandings, since the Primordial isn't the most trustworthy character and its viewpoint being skewed since it's not omnipotent and only has certain information and the Domain has been stated to rewrite its own information like actual memories while the Librarians viewing of the memories of the ancient Forerunners abandoned in Path Kethona may be skewed due to unknown information on their part.

But considering it's all we have, i'm going to give it a go:

The Precursors left evidence of there existence in the galaxy after seeding life and retreating to Path Kethona but left a few of there own behind to watch over there creations for one worthy enough to be given the Mantle. The Forerunners would eventually rise and begin to explore space and fine these remnants and the Mantle. They would claim it and police other species, which would draw the attention of the Precursors left in the galaxy to judge whether they were actually worthy of holding it. The Forerunners would be deemed unworthy and would eventually lash out and kill a few Precursors causing the Kethona Precursors to arrive in bulk to the galaxy to determine their fate. Eventually, the Forerunners would be chosen to be eradicated and the Mantle would be passed to their genetic cousins, Humanity should they pass some form of testing. The Forerunners would learn of this and in both jealousy and a need to protect themselves, strike back at their creators forcing the survivors to flee to Path Kethona while some flee to Netherop.

Obviously this isn't canon but it's the best with what I could given what we know.

My local library had a book sale. $5 to fill a brown grocery bag with however many books you could fit in it. Nice!

They had a handful of Halo books. I googled but am a little confused on the order to read them.

Heres what I got:

Fall of Reach

The Flood

Ghosts of Onyx

The Rubicon Protocol

Epitaph

and there was 1 more but I forgot what it was called, author was Greg Bear.

So I know the Eric Nylund series came first and I am only missing First Strike, I will grab that off ebay.

I also know Fall of Reach is the first book, but where I'm confused is should I be reading The Flood before I move to First Strike, or should I finish the Nylund series and than go to The Flood?

I'm almost finished with Fall of Reach and I am very surprised with how good it is.

So how advanced were Humanity during the Forerunners rebellion against the Precursors?

Both species were stated to have been seeded around 15 million years ago and had evolved during those 5 million years with Humanity evolving from Primates and the Forerunners evolving from whatever they evolved from. However, what I don't get is how the Forerunners were so advanced compared to Humanity despite being seeded at the same time.

The Forerunners were spacefaring for 9 million years before Humanity had been reported too, with their first reported civilisation arising 1.1 million years ago so i'm just confused as to how it took them so long.

I personally really like it, the stuff with the Precursors, Flood, and all of that is really cool. I don't care about the Banished, I feel like Infinite kinda ruined their charm, they should've remained a smaller faction, not be the main focus. And I especially don't care about the Endless.

My biggest gripe with 343's lore though is how it was put together. 343 was set on making Humans and Forerunners a seperate thing, but they just rushed it in Halo 4, and began releasing book after book like not other. I feel like 343 should've been patient, if they wanted Humans and Forerunners to be seperate things, they should've been built up over the 343 games, build up the mystery and intrique, and then once the truth is revealed, they could then begin releasing books explaining the lore.

But due to not doing any of those things, I feel like Halo's lore regarding the ancient-era feels convaluted and messy because the books began coming out right after Halo 4 leading up right into Halo 5.

Overall: I like the lore, but I kinda liked the charm with Humans being Forerunner, and 343 retconning it in such a rushed and sloppy manner really hurt the lore they were going for. They made good lore, just didn't execute it well.

I’m no religious expert but I recently came across the angels in Revelations, more specifically the seven angels who bring the plagues of the end times. Now it only connects to the games when switching out the seven angels for seven Halos and the plagues for the flood, which could also just be the activation of the halo rings bringing the end times for organic life and thus the flood.

Theres some other references like John 1:17 most likely referencing Chief’s role and obviously The Ark of the Covenant (duh), but I’d be interested in seeing some other references you guys have come across. It’s honestly this high-scaled mythology mixed with sci fi that made me fall in love with the trilogy’s vibe and story. Such a uniquely beautiful amalgamation of different influences.

Are there any books that go into any kind of depth where Spartans and regular soldiers interact beyond the scope of a mission? Just casual banter, talking about Spartans, military life, whatever.

How long did it take the halos to cleanse the galaxy?

They were all set off at once, and they individually have a range of 25,000 light years. They work by firing a burst of super massive neutrinos.

Does this mean it took 25,000 years for the bursts to propagate throughout the galaxy?

Does anyone else hate a “true Halo fan” because I do. Read a fucking book, Master Chief takes his helmet off because he’s still a “human”. He’s got a whole story other than what the game portrays. Maybe if you numb brains would read a couple books about a character you “love so much” as I do, you’d come to enjoy the TV show that has done a fantastic job of showing the plot. Instead of ruining something that is so great! The actor they chose is perfect and so are the co stars. Y’all ruined something that was so great and I’ll never forget the ignorance and idiocracy of the “true Halo fans”! READ A FUCKING BOOK! THEY MADE HALO BOOKS FOR A REASON!

My choice Orion class carrier

For a majority of the War with the forerunners, humans were essentially on par with them, right? How though? The forerunners by all means should’ve overwhelmed them by about 150-1 (Forunners had about 3 million worlds). Not to mention the ongoing battle with the flood humans had to deal with. are they just THAT good? If humans weren’t fighting the flood, would they have beat the forerunners?

The last Canon Fodder say:"Though young at little over thirty years of age, Meduu has been tutored by many of the finest war scholars and seneschals from whom her father took counsel. She has already earned the name “Meduu the Fierce” after violently seizing the imperial admiral’s property holdings for her own, repelling a Covenant remnant group that sought to plunder unearned valor. Those who have pledged allegiance to Meduu are greatly interested in how her own military career will progress as the Blooding Years continue to evolve. Per tradition, her worthiness, mettle, and cunning will be continually tested by threats both without and within."

Very curious about what the future hold for this character. What do you think Meddu's allegiance will be? Considering that the Arbiter allow females to become both soldiers and Kaidons, it would make sense for Meduu to join the Swords of Sanghelios to protect her interests and position. Or maybe you think she should form her own faction?

Okay. So in Halo Infinite, we start with a cutscene showing the Infinity getting utterly clobbered by 3 Banished ships.

Why is this? The Infinity is a supercarrier, not a battleship. It is described in the canon that the Banished understood a portion of the Infinity's mission, and maybe it's rough vector. It is also said by Laskey that the Banished were, "Between us and Cortana," implying that the Banished had formed a battle line in front of the Infinity(this is further backed up by Infinity hitting at least one dreadnaught with her MAC guns)It is also said by Escharum that the Infinity was disabled in four minutes.

This means that within 4 minutes of the Infinity leaving Slipspace, the Banished closed on the Infinity and rammed it from 3 seperate vectors in a knife fight. This makes sense, until you consider what the Infinity is. She is a supercarrier, not a frigate, cruiser, or a battleship.

Her role is to project power across the battlefield from afar. This is why her primary battery is 4 powerful MAC guns. It's also why she carries 10 Strident or Anlace frigates in her hull. It's also why she carries hundreds of missiles, nukes, minimacs, and fighters/bombers/transports.

Any competent captain should have placed the Infinity at a standoff distance FAR from the ring, and began to use her sensor suite to scan the battlefield whilse deploying opening fighter and recon screens. They would also place any escorts(I understand the Infinity was depleted of manpower, so it may be limited) into a screen in front of her.

Another issue is the Banished boarding. I would say at the low end, the Infinity had between 10-50 Spartans, with ~450 at the high end. A reasonable number I would say is 150-200 Spartans aboard the Infinity at the time of the Banished boarding. Had the banishrd been anle to bypass her 1100 Archer Missile silos, and 830 75mm point defense autocannons, they would be facing D-Day ×1000 as Spartan fireteams literally pummel them back into their drop pods.

The Infinity, realistically should not have been destroyed. It should have been able to fire multiple salvos(as would her escorts), and repelled or annihalated the Banished assault forces. And she should not have been placed in a knife-fight with ships designed for such combat, when she was not.

This is made even more ridiculous when you realize that the Banished lost their only former Covenant Shipmaster, and have no naval tradition. Compared to Lasky, who hss been aboard the Infinity and an experienced commander for years at this point. The Infinity was lost because 343 needed everyone stupid enough for it to lose so that the Master Chief could oncr again, be alone.

So, after Alpha Company we had the non-selects of the Spartan 3s with Mendaz and Co train the Beta company and Gamma. I could confuse the story when they started doing the HGH (human growth hormone) but beside Tom and Lucy due to being actual survivors of Operation: Torpedo, why didn't they turn "cadre" from alpha and beta spartan "washouts" into actual spartans. ONI did so with rehabing Spartan-2 wash outs but that was post surgery. The 3's meet all the genetic requirements and training. Would it really have cost them that significant of cost to have a spartan asset instead of them remaining as trainers.

The Banish get defeated by a 30 year old ship but manage to defeat the Infinity?

Due to cryosleep who would be considered the oldest Spartan II, I know Master Chief is around his late 30s/ early 40s biologically speaking

Ai guilded angel
Log
Date 7/??/2559
Ship
Unsc everlasting phoenix class
Oni Project rebirth
Thesis Spartan 4 candidates have shown multiple instances of going rogue still being augmented they are a grave danger and a security risk

Solution reignite the Spartan 2 program with the progression made in research the process will be safer and cheaper

Purpose absolute loyalty

Assuming they could have handled things differently if they had more time.

Compared to a regular person, Spartans are incredibly strong, even capable of such feats as leg pressing a mountain IIRC. This could, I fear, mean that they could be prone to breaking gear not designed for augmented individuals. So how do they avoid, for example, not squeezing the trigger or releasing the bolt or pressing down on the slide release of their weapons so hard, they just snap off?

I understand both Cruisers and Carriers can glass a planet, but in the games do we see one more prominent for glassing?

Do we see both ship types through out the original 3 games?

I havnt played in years. I’m going through Reach and to be completely honest I totally forgot cruisers even existed. In my head it’s always been the iconic Carrier design. Forgive me