r/MARPE

I’ve had chin lipo and 15 turns of MARPE. I always felt like my chin was recessed and wanted to lipo first then add chin filler, but I feel like with MARPE it’s changing? Do you still see it recessed? My bite was VERY narrow and I could not breathe what so ever, now it’s amazing how my life has changed just being able to breath correctly and have my tongue positioned where it should. I really want to improve my profile view, wondering if I should wait for MARPE treatment to finish. Lipo was 5 months ago.

TLDR; I think MARPE is improving my recessed chin, I also had lipo 5 months ago, do you still see it recessed? Wait for treatment to finish or do the chin filler? I’m so confused how my chin looks fuller.

Hello Everyone. The first pic is after expansion. For those who are saying there has been 0 change in my previous post, my nasal breathing has gotten significantly better. There are also some saying I’ve gotten jaw filler. I have had 0 cosmetic work done to my face. Please know if you have any other questions.

Hat is after expansion… still waiting for bone consolidate btw

Hey guys. An ortodontics said i have a decent wideness and i will benefit from marpe in terms of nasal breathing i i get it done.

Besides this i am curious about facial changes. Cause i have flat but a bit wide cheeckbones, definetly not prominent maxilla which makes my upper lip supoort weak and my nasal tip very loose.

I will have invisalign regardless of marpe and wondering if i could get facial benefits on the points i mentioned above as well as nasal benefits. And do in my case does it worth to get marpe?

Will be glad if anyone (experts ideally) could consult on this matter.

Thanks in advance.

I’m 19F recently had a consultation with a holistic doctor for narrow palate, breathing issues, TMJ, jaw recession and tightness in body. I really need advice here. 🥲🥲

She measured my intermoral width did not use a CBCT. I can’t fit my tounge on the top of my mouth all the way, I also previously had braces and teeth extracted for crowding. She has said I had a tongue tie, upper and bottom lip tie. Incorrect swallowing pattern/tongue function, and a narrow palate.

Since she is holistic, she would not be using MARPE/MARSPE her plan would be myofasical therapy, myobrace appliance, VIVOS for expansion and maybe physical therapy. I have an upcoming Zoom to go over my 2d photos, and pricing.

I’m considering it, but because this could be pretty expensive, I really want a second opinion before committing to anything. I found an orthodontist near me that offers free consultations and says they do airway-focused orthodontics, so I’m planning on seeing them too. I’m going to ask whether they do MARPE or another form of skeletal expansion and whether they evaluate tongue ties.
I’ve also done a lot of research on tongue posture/myofunctional exercises and feel pretty confident that I could work on a lot of the tongue-posture stuff myself, so I’m wondering if paying for a large therapy package is actually necessary.

I’d really appreciate hearing from anyone who has dealt with a narrow palate as an adult, Vivos, MARPE, tongue-tie release, or myofunctional therapy. *Especially interested in experiences with what actually helped, what didn’t, and whether getting multiple opinions was worth it.
Especially since I’m only 19 and with limited parent help for financials.
*Edit- thank you so much guys for the help, I am definitely not going with vivos but looking into marpe instead which I most likely will need.

Sorry to post again, people were saying that my lens distortion was off and they were lowkey right. Here’s a more comparable before and after. I didn’t want to unintentionally mislead anyone.

You can really see how much wider my nose in this. That’s all!

Edit: Also this is just my observation but my face has gotten a lot more 3d, instead of flat. It’s like it actually pops out, instead of the features blending in with everything

Was told I don’t need it but I think it would fix my cheekbone asymmetry.

Since my braces post had a lot of traction, wanted to share from this angle of the before and after.
Very funny angle

23 M. 184cm, 100kg, muscular (think this info) is required for my particular case). MISARPE protocol. I got my 4 MARPE screws installed on 1st of July, and the distraction appliance on July 10th. I then had to wait for a month, till getting a corticotomy, due to the surgeon being out of the country. I got the corticotomy on August 6th and started turning yesterday, after the surgeon and orthodontist (they work together) removed my stitches. The protocol is 3-4 mini turns every morning and night. Did 6 mini turns yesterday and 3 today. I understand it's way too early for a split, but I'm concerned that there is not much pressure if any in my face. I'm afraid it means it likely failed. Very stressed rn, cause I paid a lot for this treatment. Above are pictures attached of my palate/device:

Pic 1: before any turns

Pic 2: yesterday evening after 6 total mini turns

Pic 3: today morning after another 3 mini turns

I’ve been lurker on this sub for a long time, in summer of 2024 (age 23) I went for it and got braces along with a MARPE palate expander.

The expansion was not a pretty time but went by fast. (Jumpscare warning fr for the gap photo)
For those that have been suggested to do an expansion and are hesitant i highly recommend. Has helped with overall breathing and appearance.

Price: braces 7,000, the MARPE 2,000? I don’t remember the exact price (everything paid without insurance RIP) in SD CA
Pain: the very start of getting braces/MARPE is uncomfortable, mainly the adjustment of eating but after a few months paid no mind to it.

Now at 25 I have a smile I’m happy with!

Edit: shout out to Dr. Goodman! Highly recommend Goodman orthodontics in Santee, San Diego. Great staff.

Not done expanding yet but I’m finally starting to notice progress and feel like my smile looks different!! I’m loving it so far. I think my buccal corridors are becoming less noticeable and my face just looks generally more balanced.

If anyone is on the fence about doing MARPE, it’s so worth it!

Hey Guys! Here is a before and - 3 months post turning w/ aligners -selfie and regular photo front on/ slightly angled.

My initial opinions: I noticed my cheek bones are more prominent, nose bridge a bit wider and more centered and face looks shorter/wider and more structured. My eyes are further apart - they did not necessarily move away from the nose but the nose bridge widened to assist that. In these post photos I still have gaps and bonding in my teeth so my upper lip is unsupported and looks a little flat/weird. Doctor says we close gaps to move everything forward and up so this will look better and will also cover the gums. I am doing memory aligners for the next 1.5 - 2 years.

Since posting on Reddit I'm learning so much about other people's results, expectations etc so this is a very helpful community. Initially I got a little freaked out because after I stopped turning my face went crazy (see previous freakout posts lol) but it started slowly moving back into better placement after three months.

I’m a lot happier with the results here from the start - to when I was freaking out - but it still looks awkward and I’m optimistic the results will continue to get better.

Initial reasons for MARPE was narrow palate, cross bite, and to help mid face.

I have profile angles for the same time frame here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MARPE/s/AFvXopZwfr

Feel the pressure mostly in my nose, and right cheekbone. Almost no pressure in left cheekbone. Ortho doesn’t seem to think that is an issue. Post split we are doing slow turn protocol once a week, will that maybe help normalize the pressure so that I expand symmetrically? That’s the main concern.

Also is the nose pressure indicative of being close to split? Ortho originally said it should split in 6-8 turns. We also did corticopunctures.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MARPE/s/YH4I2srU3t