r/Manipulation

Hi everyone. Me(18F) and my mom (45F) and I have been having a lot of issues lately. I really need an outside perspective because I can’t tell if I’m overreacting anymore.
Some background: I’m the oldest of three daughters. My dad was abusive toward both my mom and me, and he died by suicide five years ago. It was incredibly traumatic. I’ve been in therapy ever since, but my mom has never gotten help, even though I’ve begged her to. At first she said we couldn’t afford therapy, but after our financial situation improved, she said she couldn’t take time off work.
Three days ago, I got a septum piercing. I already have several piercings, and my mom has always disliked them. But when she saw my septum, she completely lost it. She started yelling that I looked disgusting, that I looked like a drug addict, that I should have grown up by now, and that she was ashamed to be seen with me. She even said she couldn’t look at my face because of how ugly I looked.
At first, I tried to ignore it because it’s my body, and I’m legally an adult. But it didn’t stop there. Yesterday I came home after hanging out with friends, and the first thing she said was, “Aren’t you embarrassed to go outside looking like that? How can you let people look at your face? You look disgusting.” What hurt the most is that she knows I’m very insecure about my appearance. She knows comments like that affect me deeply.
We also had a family wedding and a vacation coming up. She told me I wasn’t allowed to come to the wedding looking like that and that I couldn’t come on the vacation either because she was embarrassed to be seen with me. She even threatened not to take me on the trip at all. I ended up removing the piercing because I was terrified of damaging our relationship.
This isn’t the only issue, though. For months, I’ve wanted to start going to the gym. I struggle with social anxiety, and walking into a gym alone feels overwhelming. My boyfriend has been working out for years, so today I asked if we could go together because I’d feel much more comfortable with someone I trust. My mom refuses to let me go simply because I’d be going with him.
I feel like this keeps happening in different areas of my life. Whenever I make a decision she doesn’t like, I’m always the one who ends up giving in because I don’t want to damage our relationship. I constantly feel responsible for keeping the peace. She also treats me differently from my younger sisters. Because I’m the oldest, she often treats me more like a friend or emotional support than her daughter, which makes it even harder to stand up for myself. When she’s upset with me, she’ll often stop talking to me until I do what she wants.
I’m starting to wonder if this is emotional manipulation or if I’m the one in the wrong. I love my mom, and I know she’s been through a lot, which is why this is so hard for me. I feel like i give all my personality and life just to make her happy and i fear moving on this will get worse. I need advice what to do moving forward. (Sorry for the long ass rant)

Like I feel like I’m a very attuned person when it comes to manipulation i don’t manipulate people though im just aware when someone is i had to learn to be this way to protect myself but I don’t want to hurt anyone

Alright, folks.

Heres my story: M(27) F(27)

- Met girl on Hinge 13th of September last year hit things off immediately, texting every day I was like wow this is incredible - My birthday 20th September took me to a fancy new cinema and got me my favourite aftershave - I laughed and said are you love bombing me to which she said no I was being nice for your bday.

- Months go by, nice getaways to hotels, training together, great sex and everything felt perfect, she had a young son who was 9 and I did not meet in person - she said her ex bf who was practically the step dad of the kid left her and put her kid in therapy - to which I was very understanding. I felt like this girl really understood me as well.

-Now this is where the cracks start - Around 6 months into dating, she would mention how evil and hateful her ex (Together 6 years) was and mentioned he was in the same Tesco as her at xmas (live in local area) He was walking in and she was walking out - I said thats trippy never easy bumping into an ex - left it at that. Did not want to appear phased. Had a nice xmas met her Mum and her little sister things felt very good and often stayed with her and her mum when her son was at the kids dads.

-At end of February my Granny passed away unexpectedly - She mentioned how her ex BF did not let her into the after event when his granny passed away etc - I just let her vent - Granny passed away on Tuesday and then on Friday I met her Dad for the first time - Naturally stressed over my Grannys passing I did not drink - she did - On the trip down and home she basically played a FU to her ex song - and her dad mentioned she seen her ex and he looked rough - anyways, we drove home and I said to her I don't bring up my exes etc and if he was so bad he left you and your son in therapy be happy he's gone - she said she's 'over him just not the situation she put her and her son through' - when I said I wasn't happy she's mentioning him she stone walled me - I left her house and drove home to regulate as I was with a previous GF who stonewalled me and it done a number on me - she was dunk and proceeded to tell me I was never meeting her child and that was us done over text- We then sorted this out - half apology from her and from me I thought I needed to be more understanding of her situation and we told each other we love each other.

- The month after we had a great month done a charity 10K and had a nice getaway - I spoke to her son on the phone and on FaceTime over those few months we were together over xmas and when she was on a family holiday to New York - still no physical interaction I said it would be nice to meet your child as I have gotten him a birthday present and an Xmas one and we both know about each other and I am getting a bit frustrated of having to hide around the corner when we know about each other - Bare in mind I asked this respectfully and said no pressure I just need a plan as she said if I met him I could travel to Spain with her and her kid this summer. The kid also told his biological father about me that Saturday as well.

- I was met with two days of silence - then seen her on the Saturday went to the gym all was fine, thought that was back on track and we said we would go to the cinema on the Wednesday and on the Tuesday I got a text telling me I was perfect, we have a laugh together but she feels 'something is missing' - and ended things with me over text after 7 months.

- I did not reply for 3 weeks based on advice from my family and friends as I was blindsided and was constantly told I was the best person in the world and she was so lucky to have me, but when I mentioned maybe meeting her kid she turned so nasty and discarded me like I was nothing over text, I then texted her to speak she then told me she loves me as a person but not in love with me and I deserve better - I did not reply again, I feel so heartbroken how can she be all lovey then discarded over text? I noticed when I put her number into whatsapp she had no profile picture anymore and her messages were set to disappearing which makes me think her ex was back in the picture or hiding something? - Her tiktok reposts after were all things like when a man leaves your life build a comfortable life etc - except I never left her?

What do I do I am still incredibly in love with her - Its been 2 months nc and I have been attending therapy and gym but I still feel stuck

Thanks to anyone reading this I just don't know what to do I can't picture myself with anyone else - is this emotional abuse? is she a covert narcissist, do I even attempt to contact her for answers?

Please help!

I seriously need opinions because I feel like I got played so badly and I can’t tell if I’m overthinking or if this guy actually manipulated me.
Last month I went to a pub with my guy friend. There was this guy there (let’s call him M). He was the one who added us to the guest list. Two days before the event, he followed me on Instagram. At the party we talked a bit, and he mentioned that one of his friends is actually my cousin. I didn’t know him before that night.
The next morning he mentioned me on his Instagram story, and we started texting. Then we started calling each other, and our calls would literally last for hours. He flirted a lot and kept telling me he liked me from the first moment he saw me. Looking back now, I genuinely think he’s one of the best manipulators I’ve ever met because he always knew exactly what to say.
A few days later we met at a park and kissed. That’s when he told me, “Right now we’re in a situationship, not a relationship.” I was okay with taking things slow.
But here’s where I got confused.
The very next day he started introducing me to his friends as his girlfriend. Whenever his friends called, he’d tell them, “I’m with my girlfriend.” He posted me on his private Instagram, made me his profile picture, put me in his highlights, and basically made it look like we were dating. Obviously I believed he was serious because why would someone do all that if they weren’t?
A few days later I went to my cousin’s house (my cousin is also friends with M), and then later we booked a room and had it. After that, whenever his friends called while we were together, he’d still say he was with his girlfriend. So I genuinely thought we were exclusive.
Then out of nowhere everything changed.
One evening I checked his Instagram and saw he’d followed another girl. At the same time he removed every picture of me from his private account, changed his profile picture, removed me from his highlights, and blocked me on both his private and main Instagram accounts. He also blocked me on Snapchat. The only place he didn’t block me was WhatsApp.
I wanted answers so badly, but I never confronted him because I was scared of losing him completely.
Then one day I was at my cousin’s house. My cousin called M and asked where I was. M replied, “Ayn aval aaran aan? Onnu poyeda,” in a really dismissive way.
A little later M called me and started saying, “Why did you go to your cousin’s place without telling me? We’re done. You broke my trust.”
I was so confused because… what trust did I break? I still apologized because I didn’t want to lose him.
He ignored me for two days.
Then he randomly called saying he missed me, wasn’t feeling well, and wanted me to come over because his mom wasn’t home. He said he wanted me beside him because he was sick and tired.
So I went.
Guess what happened?
We had it again, he dropped me home, and after that he barely texted me.
A few days later I stalked his account using my mom’s Instagram. That’s when I saw he’d posted a picture with another girl, and his private account profile picture was also with the same girl.
This morning he texted me saying he wasn’t feeling well.
I haven’t replied.
The more I think about everything, the more I feel like he only contacted me whenever he wanted attention, validation, or intimate . He love bombed me in the beginning, made me think I was his girlfriend, disappeared, blamed me for something I don’t even think was wrong, came back when it benefited him, and now he’s posting another girl.
Do you guys think this was manipulation from the start, or am I missing something?
And should I even reply to his text, or just leave it and move on?
**TL;DR:** Met a guy at a pub, we talked for hours every day, he said we were in a situationship but introduced me to everyone as his girlfriend, posted me all over his private Instagram, and made me believe he was serious. We got intimate, then he suddenly removed everything, blocked me on Instagram and Snapchat, blamed me for “breaking his trust” over something that made no sense, came back only when he wanted to see me, we got intimate again, and then I found out he was posting another girl. Now he’s texting me saying he’s sick. Did I get manipulated, or am I missing something?

My ex ruined us by white knighting his heart and time and money and energy to his ex. Now he's my ex.. I dumped him 3 weeks ago ..my tire was completely flat yesterday, a guy helped blow it up but useless...I reluctantly asked my ex if he could help me...he put my donut on my car while pouring sweat in this heatwave, took my rim and got me a new tire ..I felt so thankful but still hate him... I realized he is a white knight. Crossed all my boundaries. So how can I take advantage? It's not evil. He would be fulfilling something in him, while helping me without me having to feel cheated on since I'm remaining his ex. I need more ideas. I don't like being needy. I'm very independent...which basically was a punishment for me...so how can I pretend to be damsel in distress and get something out of this heartbreak?

“I would never tolerate that.” But you have. You’ve stayed. Rationalized. Gone back. Ignored the red flags and called it “giving him a chance.”
Everyone is an expert when they’re not the one attached. In love. Lonely. Activated. It’s easy to say, “Just leave,” when you’re not the one in it.
People don’t tolerate bad behavior because they’re weak. They tolerate it because they’re human. And humans will tolerate almost anything from someone they’re attracted to.
“I would nEvER.” Isn’t a description of how you act. It’s a description of who you wish you were. It isn’t insight. It’s a fantasy.
“Why do men keep doing it?” Because it works. Breadcrumbing. Hot and cold. Inconsistency. All of it would die overnight if women left the first time instead of the fifth. The behavior survives because it keeps getting rewarded.
Here’s the intelligence trap: You can name the avoidant. Diagnose the narcissist. Label him toxic in the group chat. And still answer when he texts at midnight. Knowing was never the same as leaving.
You are immune to manipulation right up until it arrives dressed as someone you want. That’s the part no comment section will admit.
Diagnosing him is easy. Leaving the man who activates you is the hard part. And it’s the only part that changes your life.
You close the gap between what you know and what you actually do not by analyzing the pattern forever, but by breaking it.

Read it on Instagram. Reposting here.

This is gonna be a very long story, and I am kinda stuck so, I may lay it all on here.

I’m a M26, and that person is a F30. We first start as boss and worker, getting to know each other more. We then have our cocktail nights as weekly ritual to share about knowledge. We get to know each other better although have no feeling for her, during that time I still had a girlfriend, but we when drinking and sometimes meet on trip. We happened to become really, really good friends.

Overtime, around 2 years, I said I just broke up with my gf, and that’s when she said she has been into me for a long time and ask if I want to be together. I said no, and she was kinda angry asking why. I said I just had no feeling.

So the relationship went on, but there’s a gimmick of her keep telling that I’m such a bad guy for not liking her back, and she start making questions comparing herself to my ex asking why not her. She say the friendship relationship between us will end if I had a girlfriend. We worked in the same company so everytime I talk to a female co-worker or post a story with female co-worker on Instagram, she was upset. During this time, she keep saying that I am actually in love with her, by everything we’ve gone through. I just tried to denied it.

Have to note that beside those uncomfortable moments, I enjoy working with her and talking about several topics. So it’s like a rollercoaster of emotion going every day. There’s a time I was so afraid to do anything, cause anything can trigger an arguments. She made some rules in we have to text at least one every 3 hours, and said the reason I don’t want to be in a relationshop with her is just because I brought up too much unneccesary fences. Sometimes I felt like the fear is just a little bit overwhelmed.

Some months ago, I left job and went to study abroad. The time before my departure was kinda easy, I informed her and said that we’ll figure some way to maintain the connection. But since my first day abroad, we kept argueing since she said she couldn’t sleep, and argueing about many stuff. Sometimes it went off the limit and I fighted back by saying all the control and jealousy that she put on me before, while realising I was too naive to let it happened for such a long time. I said we need to stop this, by that I mean the relationship. But one time after another, there’s some way we figured it out. We keep texting and having phone call btw. At this point I perceived her as very close and good friend, one I don’t want to hurt, so I kept going.

She studied psychology. And after a while she said that there is something not right with her mental health, and I told her to checked up. She got a result with depression level 2.

At that time, I was also down because i was in a new country, wanted to explore new things but always tied to arguments and thinkings and heavy feelings.

From then, I tried to negotiate to live more freely like it’s my right to have a girlfriend, to be in a relationship etc. She said that my decision to study abroad is the first shock, and if I had a girlfriend will be the second shock, and she cannot just handle 2 shocks at the time.

But I had a girlfriend eventually, she is F22. I hide her away from the person. I have to admit that I sometimes lied about my daily routine as well when texting that person, since she always want to know where I go who I meet. To me, I just want to create some feeling of freedom and “I live my life on my own”

Then the arguments went even worse. At some point, I said “let’s stop” and I really want to stop. But then she negotiate with things that she will accept in order for us to keep the relationship. Accepting that I will have a relationship for my own is one of those. However she said that will still be a shock for her. I understand her situation, but for my own I feel like that’s something still one kind of controlling. I’m pretty confused at this point.

So here’s when thing get a little bit more complicated. So sometimes I received a message from the person saying that she knew I did thing but not telling her, like going to a pub, eating with a group of friends.

So the arguments keep on, and I started not replying back. Not silent treatment, but most of the time I’m too tired with arguing and I don’t know what to say. Everytime I said something, she replied that I was not caring enough or don’t really acknowledge her mental problems. When I told her to seek help from friends and family, she said that I am the only one can help her surpass this. I believed this, since before when she lost her mom I was there to help. But now I feel like I’m the origin of problem and also her solution? It’s truly my dilemma.

So I fighted back, I said I’ll be here with you, but if you ever angry on me again for every reason, I’ll walk away. She said ok.

So last week, I was having some works, the person also knew it. We had and argument, and I left the phone for 5-6 hours. When I picked up again, she texted that she chose to end her life since there’s no joy anymore. I was in a panic, I tried to call everyone for help. After 1.5 hrs, she picked up my call, she said she had vomit everything because she wanted to see me again.

The week after, she texted me that she’s tired and cannot eat anything since everything will be vomit out again. I tried to talk with soft tones, saying that I will try not be so harsh, and I want to keep the relationship going as good friend, although I will have my own life.

Then today, in the morning, she send me a photo of my gf’s insta asking what’s going on, since my gf is wearing a shirt of mine. We called, she said that my gf has followed her IG, then post photos of her with hint of me, but never romantic one. She said that that’s run her down, and with the fact that I said I would not receive any anger, she was suffering alone

A and I know the fact that my girlfriend is a bit childish, she might do what young woman do when they’re jealous. My gf never knew that the person has mental issue. So I said the main problem is I didn’t communicate fully about the person to my gf, and those girl trick came not at the right time. I was so sorry for that. But she went on and said my gf is a kind of “b*tch”

I kept sorrying, saying the problems was mine, from not communicating well to not letting her express her anger. She said I should stop protecting my gf, and she will left if I choose to stay with my gf.

I felt like it’s the “choose me or choose the relationship” again, so I fighted back, but hard words. I broke my promise of being soft but I just cannot helped myself. At one time, I said the control and jealousy of you for the past 3 years has ruined my emotion. I tried to speak what I felt. But she said she we’ll end her life, and wish me happiness with my “b*tch”

I fell into a total breakdown again. I cried, suffering, begging her not to do it. I said I’ll leave my gf. I am such a coward, but I cannot carry the thought of my decision could end someone’s life. After an hour of talking, she said she won’t do it, but I’m now devastated. I know I love my gf, and she did such a childish thing. But I also want that person to live a good life not being so emotional attached to me. I don’t know what to do when the sun rise tomorrow.

So this is a 2nd case of my life decoding a girl psychology, the earlier you can read it in my account and pls help to understand the girls psychology and shape me in that way

So I got shifted into a new house in April 2023 and there was girl in my neighbourhood same as my age even 4 months elder than me , she was good looking but not very attractive (but yeah she was a gf material)

So approx for seven months we don't talk to each other just completely ignore each other (because I have crush on someone else that time , to know the context you have to read the other post in my community) So everytime we all had a get together with our friends she and her younger also came and we fun together a lot , play games , shares secret and everytime I made everyone with my joke and she also laughed , but sometimes we just ignore each other if met outside IDK why ?

So my crush on her grew more , until I discover her deeply

She was not that much interested in me and idk like everyone in society she also try to avoid it was only me if I talk to her nicely she will also talk to me nicely , if I don't, she will don't even give me a damn fcuk , I think it was because I reveal my personality a too much to her and I literally don't match her type personality a lot , means she need an emotional man who would cry when he watch emotional movies and she was sometimes a way too feminist means her personality was sometimes become so cringe for me , because IDK how to express my emotion ?

So one day we were watching a Hollywood, A fault in our stars ( to those who don't know it's an emotional movie where our main lead died due to cancer maybe his augustus walter , my personal prespective I don't like the ending , don't start in the comment section for that , because I was expecting the female lead to die and they didn't even show his death scene properly so that's why)

She literally liked that guy very much , because he was emotional and romantic ( okay I am also but don't express that's it ) So at first she was in the middle I came to her side and after few minutes she switch the side with my sister go to other side ( I was like okay 👍👍) maybe she is uncomfortable besides me and after the movie she was very sad and was about to cry , I was like I don't find anything emotional in this movie ( because I already watch AOT , those who know , know) and she was like such boys don't have emotions at all , that made me make laugh more , everytime I open my mouth I say something that she might don't like , because most of the time I roast girls 🥀

Obviously a pure feminine will not like it , one time she even say that girls are so attractive and boys are like just trash and I said you sure you are straight ? She said maybe not 😂

(If you been reading up to this line I know you all are confused wth is he writing so don't use your brain that much because I am also confuse wth did I just write so pls consider, and also please be respectful in the comment section I respect everyone feelings whether it's a girl or a boy or a gay 🤡 )

So now I just don't like her because of our completely different personality and way of thinking for now I just treat her like a neighbour now ,my interest on her literally die

And yeah another reason she support Donald Trump !!!!!!!!!

Me and my boyfriend have been dating for about six months not that long. We have been arguing almost 3 times a week for the past. 4 months( background I do have bipolar disorder ) but I am medicated and I go to therapy. Our most recent argument was him saying I do not care for him and I’m mentally checked out of the relationship. His reasoning was that we do not call nor text that much. At first I felt really bad that he was feeling this way, but I went through our call log and we call twice a day every single day anytime we argue he tells me stuff like. “ I don’t wanna be with a person who makes me feel like this.” but typically, I’m not really doing anything and he just gets extremely angry at me. I don’t wanna make him feel bad. I love him. It’s to the point where I’m getting migraines from crying. I started recording our arguments recently to see what is actually going on because I’m at the point where I cannot distinguish what’s really happening. Last time he was over at my house I was trying to find his bag of weed. It fell underneath my bed and he just kept groaning, so I looked at him to figure out what was wrong and then he started crying and saying I gave him the most disgusted look ever turned around said he was going to bed. It was 3 PM so I went downstairs and I started crying and then he proceeded to come downstairs and say “I didn’t come over just to hang out by myself” I suggested a break for us so we can both figure out what is wrong and why we’re arguing so much and he just started comparing me to his exes. I don’t know what to do. He won’t let me break up with him. I tried three times and he always uses my bipolar disorder as an excuse to be angry at me. I feel so sad. I love him i feel like a bird brain bitch. I’m not really too sure how to post pictures on here or videos or else I would clip the most recent argument. I just want him to be gentle with me again.

So I’ve been talking to this girl for a couple weeks now before she said “I’m not ready for anything serious, but I want to talk more to get to know you for when I am”. So after I read that I was like alright so I’ll give her space and back off a little bit, and so I did. So we still text daily but like 3 days later she started calling me her “handsome bae” and sent me things on instagram about relationships (one of them being kinda weird like “if you were a worm, I’d be the earliest bird” or something). She hasn’t said anything about moving to a next level of any sorts and this started happening so soon after she said she wasn’t ready for anything so idk.

I just don’t want to get stomped on yall I have literally never been in anything serious (or even a talking stage bro ong 😅) and this is definitley seeming like some kind of manipulation or “leading on” in a sense. Literally if anybody could help me with some advice that would be awesome.

She did ask to hang out but that was a little while back and I said “we definitley need to talk more”.

I struggle with this communication style so much. It's like they believe asking a direct question and getting a direct answer isn't allowed. I have a friend and a family member that constantly speak to me this way, and it's caused me real upset over the years. Features of this include:

1. Very vague. "We are thinking of going to a restaurant next month some time...", but won't actually give you a day/time/location or ask if you are able to attend. If you ask, they shrug and keep it vague.
2. When it comes down to the actual timing of the thing they want (usually with little time to go), they come in with assumptive language and never ask you for the thing they want. They treat it as something that is a foregone conclusion. "Be sure to bring the kids to Olive Garden with us tomorrow." "We are all wearing red to the party."

In this sequence, it's like saying "No" isn't an option. They don't actually ask you, tell you any details, and then assume compliance. If you try to talk to them about how there was no plan or ask, they seem to believe the vague implications were enough, and that was the "ask." If you say no, they are very upset and treat you like you are being a problem and making things difficult for them.

Does anyone know how to effectively communicate with people exhibiting this pattern? How do you respond in an emotionally intelligent way to the "no ask-ask"?

been over a month since i last had sex with ex girlfriend. she bled for 1 day (soaked a pad), stopped for 1 day, then continued again for 4 days, crampings were the same as her usual menstruation cramps, she had clots too. yes this happens to her, but usually on the 3rd or 4th day then bleeding continues too. after 9 days, she had clumps of discharge (maroon in color and a bit of watery blood) and yes this happens to her during ovulation or at the end of ovulation. after 2 days she says she took a pregnancy test that shows a positive with faint line, she couldn't show it because she "threw" it away out of panic. then the next day she took a test again with video (because i asked for evidence). in the video, she showed a newly bought test, opened it, then dropped it. she also didn't show the progress of the pregnancy test slowly showing it's lines (it was out of frame). after that, she says she refuses to take a test with me to "save" her from the panic and stress. it's been 8 days over that, now I'm planning to buy her a test and she agrees. but she refuses to not be seen out in public without me by her side (we go to the same school, and i don't want people to see that we're gonna out together). there's two places i want to go to, at a mall and a park. at the mall i told her that we will call to see that she is going to use her urine sample and the test I'll give, to prove she won't use someone elses or her pregnant friend's. but she refuses to call, saying it is disgusting. she refuses to go the park too without taking the buss/shuttle together. but when i finally agreed to go the park together, she acted cold and threatened me that she will not call me while she's doing the process. when i asked her if she had a cup for the urine too, she just started copying my messages/questions, then threatened me again that she will not call me while doing the test.

note: she has pranked me in the past with a fake pregnancy too, showing a positive pregnancy test from Pinterest.

My boyfriend takes me for granted and I don't know what to do. I tell him to do anything, he doesn't listen to me. But he loves me just doesn't listen to me. Can you guys suggest me some dark reverse psychology tricks to make him obsessed.

Alright, folks.

Heres my story: M(27) F(27)

- Met girl on Hinge 13th of September last year hit things off immediately, texting every day I was like wow this is incredible - My birthday 20th September took me to a fancy new cinema and got me my favourite aftershave - I laughed and said are you love bombing me to which she said no I was being nice for your bday.

- Months go by, nice getaways to hotels, training together, great sex and everything felt perfect, she had a young son who was 9 and I did not meet in person - she said her ex bf who was practically the step dad of the kid left her and put her kid in therapy - to which I was very understanding

-Now this is where the cracks start - Around 6 months into dating, she would mention how evil and hateful her ex (Together 6 years) was and mentioned she was in the same shop as her at xmas (live in local area) - I said thats trippy never easy bumping into an ex - left it at that. Had a nice xmas met her Mum and her little sister things felt very good

-At end of February my Granny passed away unexpectedly - She mentioned how her ex BF did not let her into the after event when his granny passed away etc - I just let her vent - Granny passed away on Tuesday and then on Friday I met her Dad - Naturally stressed over my Grannys passing I did not drink - she did - On the trip down and home she basically played a FU to her ex song - and her dad mentioned she seen her ex and he looked rough - anyways, we drove home and I said to her I dont bring up my exes etc - she said she's over him just not the situation she put her and her son through - when i Said I wasn't happy she's mentioning him she stone walled me - I left her house and drove home - she was dunk and proceeded to tell me I was never meeting her child and that was us done over text- We then sorted this out.

- The month after we had a great month done a charity 10K and had a nice getaway - I spoke to her son on the phone and on facetime over those few moths - still no physical interaction I said it would be nice to meet your child as I have gotten him a birthday present and an Xmas one and we both know about each other and I am getting a bit frustrated of having to hise around the corner - Bare in mind I asked this respectfully and said no presuusre I just need a plan

- I was met with two days of silence - then seen her on the Saturday went to the gym all was fine and said we would go to the cinema on the Wednesday and on the Tuesday I got a text telling me I was perfect, we have a laugh together but she feels something is missing - and ended things with me over text after 7 months.

- I did not reply for 3 weeks and asked to speak she then told me she loves me as a person but not in love with me and I deserve better - I did not reply again, I feel so heartbroken how can she be all lovey then discarded over text? I notcied when I put her number into whatsapp she had no profile picture anymore and her messages were set to sisaaperaring which makes me think her ex was back int he picture?

What do I do I am still incredibly in love with her - Its been 2 months nc and I have been attending therapy and gym but I still feel stuck

Thanks to anyone reading this I just don't know what to do I can't picture myself with anyone else - is this emotional abuse?

I kinda lost my shit recently because my guy friend believed that we were in some committed relationship even though I told him that I’m not wanting it. He kept forcing physical things when we were together and I was in a bad spot in my life he got me food a couple times. But I finally got it through to him that I’m not going to be with him and this is months of dealing with his manipulative bullshit and I finally couldn’t take it anymore and then he now wants to get paid money and be a victim. But what do you think of these texts? He would randomly tell me that he would get sores on his dick from not having enough sex. What does that even mean? Is that even a thing? That sounds more like an std. he would call me 85 times in a row and I swear to god he has the most extreme anxious attachment I have ever seen on ANY person. And I would have been considerate of that if he wasn’t affecting me negatively in the process. And something about these messages make me wanna die laughing idk why😭😭

Love you
Your always my baby girl -Matthew

Did you hang up -Me

No
Figured you did

No

(After another quick call)

Talk to me when you calm down -Matthew

What
I'm calm You hung up on me

You don't show any consideration or care in the world for the fact that you don't know anything about how l am. I suffer a lot when you don't do anything sexual and the fact that you think that you know everything about me when you don't is the problem.

I said I don't care and there's nothing I can do that you can't have sex every day

I don't need sex every day. I've already told you that you obviously just didn't listen.

You don't need to pressure me every time we talk

I told you, even if it was just grinding then that would be perfect

Can we just talk about something else without you complaining

Well, what do you wanna talk about then since obviously I can't figure out any topics to talk about without being fussed
Fussed at

This is why I don't really talk to you much is because you start an argument every time I already had a topic and you changed it to your dick
It's the same thing every single time

You didn't even have a topic going and you didn't even let me finish what I was saying cause then that way you would've understood but it's whatever

I don't care
I was talking about the documentary I was watching Why do you wanna text

It's obvious that you cannot understand anything about anyone cause you won't try and I try to be with you. I try to love you. I never will stop but somethings gotta give and l've tried to tell you that you can't just go through life and not at least try something.

No
Then I won't do anything
because this is exactly the
behavior that will make
someone never wanna have sex
with you
It's not going to happen because you won't control this
We have the same conversation every time I call you
Get over it I was patient as fuck I wanted to give you a chance now I don't
I'm not going to grind I'm not going to cuddle because when I said I wanted to cuddle you said it's weird to not go further so now I'm done and it's not going to happen
Your impossible

And no, I didn't. I told you I was OK with it. I told you I liked it. I told you I loved it. You don't give me a chance to even explain it until you start coming to a conclusion and never letting me finish my sentences. you cut me off before I can finish saying anything and when you finally do, let me finish saying it you think it's already too late and I'm trying to change what l've said. I'm trying to call so it's easier for me to explain and talkI never said I wanted to do it all the time and I told you the second that you explained to me about the cuddling and everything and even me saying it earlier today I wanted to just cuddle. I don't care for it right now. I didn't want it to be like go all the way kind of thing either. I just wanted someone to care for to be there to hold and to just enjoy the day and night with.

What are you changing about it

You're not letting me try to explain anything
I never said I wanted to do it all the time and I told you the second that you explained to me about the cuddling and everything an
Okay Please answer
I love you, baby girl call me
Hey

I'm sorry and i want things to be okay
I love you

I don't believe you until you prove it multiple times at least three times if not more
???

I don't care
I'm not doing anything physical with you
I'm your friend
And I'm not sorry because I'm wrong I'm sorry because I want you to stop trying to guilt me already
Everything I've said to you has been true I can't keep dealing with this is all the time you've pushed past boundaries for too long
Your losing ME for that
Im not sorry and Im not wrong and im tired of it
I'm done
I should not have to say it so many times
You aren't who I want
Just stop
I want to be with someone who can respect my boundaries you don't
Fuck you

I do
I've told you that I don't want anything sexual
You can prove it in any way you want
That's why i wasn't specific about what you needed to do
Because I want you to choose it
I love you baby girl
What happened
???
Call me when you want to talk and are more free pls
Wym
Like when you want to talk You're going to miss out, but whatever
I'm about to crash out on someone you're about to hear me basically fuss at someone
Hold on
Mom is in here
I'm trying to call you
???
Baby girl
???
???
What is going on
????

What is it

I am calling cause I wanted to

Why

Because I love you and I wanted to talk to my baby girl
Why else?
What's going on, babe?

Stop spam calling

What
You told me to call once I was free and wanted to talk and so l called because I wanted to talk to my baby girl
Starting to make me stressed out and overthink
Why won't you answer?

Get over it

Get over what?
You told me to call once l wanted to talk and I want to talk to my baby girl. I love you.
What is there to get over?
What did I do wrong this time?
And I love you, baby girl no matter what
Will you call me, baby girl?
Please
And also, your words hurt like
that cerrated knife all over again !
Please
Good morning beautiful baby girl
How did you sleep
Hey baby girl

You don't respect boundaries if you spam call me
I'm so close to blocking you
I'm not fucking confused I'm your friend
If you keep this shit up then I won't be your friend either
I'll be a bad guy cause clearly i am
I haven't wanted to be with you for months
I don't care if it hurts your feelings
I've let you down nicely many times
Fucking get over it
You aren't the person for me
I'll be your friend Okay

You don't fucking listen and you expect me to turn around and be all fine games with everything

I don't care matthew
I don't care If your fine with it or not

Do you want me to be your friend? Do you want me to help you with OF do you want me to help you make a movie? Do you want me to do all this and yeah you're not willing to give me something in return
I don't ask for anything sexual from you I'm done asking anything sexual from you

Why are you texting this
It's not even true

You used me and I'm trying to give you a chance to prove to me that you're not that kind of person but all you're doing is just doing that you are

No I didn't
Unblocked- you're a liar. You're paranoid and you're covering your tracks over texts.
Blocked
I'm not going to be nice about this shit anymore
I've tried to tell you l am uninterested for months in a relationship and now I'm being mean so you can understand. I tried nicely I tried patiently but you demanded a relationship anyways that I don't want to have. That is why.
I'm uninterested AT ALL now
You ruined any hope there was from being needy and a liar
I don't want you
Now get it through your head
I was very patient
You needed me to be more firm
You needed me to be mean So you could finally give it up
Blocked
I'm not ready for a relationship
Get over it

Obviously, you aren't

Especially not with you
It's personal
I hate you

You were the one that said that you loved me and wanted me in the first place after you dipped off the face of the Earth that last time when me and Zack dropped you off

Now can you get over it because it's something I tried to be nice about
I broke up with you 3 times and you guilted me back
Telling me that if you didn't have me you'd have no one
I don't like you
Get that through your head

I'm waiting on the money and I'm done trying to date you

I was being nice
I was done trying to date you
Finally Thank God

I thought I was going to find someone who actually cared for me and I actually cared for them and I gave you everything I could, but you obviously couldn't give me anything

No you didn't
Shut up
Blocked

You're a fucking bitch you're a fucking asshole and I'm going to wait on the money
I'm waiting send it to my Cash App

lol
Cuck

No wonder you got kicked out
I won't receive any more texts by the at
Way

You think you can use everyone and not care about how they feel?

I don't care how you feel and I'm not getting half your texts anyways
I don't have to date you
I was going to be a nice friend
But not anymore
I hate you
I hate you
I had to be the bad guy so I don't care if you think you know why I got kicked out I'm living fine at my moms house
You just think you can make someone have a relationship with you
That's what I get for being too nice and not being harsh the first time e I hope that one day we can be okay again but you pushed me too far i would be your friend because you were my favorite person but I can't keep putting myself last and being in a relationship I don't want. I'll reach out when I can and when we can be friends again. You left me no choice with all this pressure and neediness. I just wanted you to respect no relationship and no sex at all. But you can't do that and you won't stop complaining about it.
We would have worked if you respected space and boundaries.
And you didn't. So I'm done. I'm not sorry
You've done things for me that I appreciate but I can't have your constant drama.