r/NonBinaryTalk

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I’ve been nonbinary for 5 years now and i’m scared to change it.

I’ve never been the feminine type of person, i hated being forced to wear dresses back in my childhood, hated my name, hated being labeled just because of whats between my pants. Everytime i wore skirts i’d cry to mirror that it’s not my trueself, i did everything to make people see dont want to be potraited as a woman. I changed my name, my pronouns, to the point where in highschool even my teachers would call me by my preffered name. It’s been fine like this past 4 years till 2025.

I met a guy and he changed my way of thinking about this. He’s a cis man, lots of abs, tall, handsome. We got together, been happy for a year now. Now we talked a lot about this, and he told me that he hates his gender, that he doesnt see himself as someone associated with gender rolls and all, but everything id label as nonbinarity happens in his mind. not outside of his appearance, but the way he thinks about himself and others and this type of stuff. he inspired me a lot to start liking my feminine side. And i want to try changing something not outside of me but keep it everything inside. Not abandoning nonbinarity, but reshaping it into something completely else. I want to try and go back to my original name, pronouns, and everything, but im so scared of being judged. where i live in 2020/2021 everyone because of tiktok was trans or gay only to turn into cis straight person a year later, and the idea of people thinking of me this way scares the shit out of me. I know my friends are really understanding and will support me no matter what, my boyfriend included, but i dont even know where to start. how to achieve femininity, how to reshape all of this into being a woman but keeping my nonbinarity private only to myself and my thoughts.

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u/Famous_Refuse1964 — 13 hours ago
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Can I consider myself nonbinary?

I’m 17 AFAB and I was wondering if I can consider myself non binary if I dress more feminine as someone who wears alternative/emo fashion, I want to try get more into a more androgynous style but unsure how too!

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u/Previous_Judgment384 — 9 hours ago

How do you know?

I came out as nonbinary (27) about a year ago. I was born AFAB, and had grown up around my family who really cared about looks. My mom always did her make up and dressed her best 24/7. My dad at an early age encouraged me to wear make up and said I was lucky he was telling me to wear make up.

I rebelled and didn’t want to wear any. I still don’t. I don’t wear bras unless around work or people I deem I have to wear a bra around. I don’t shave my legs because I like my leg hair. I rarely shave my pits too.

Lately I’ve been thinking what it would be like to be a man. How I wish I could be a guy and just be one of the bros with a big group of friends. I want to have muscles like a man. To be treated as man. I hate the way I am treated as a woman. I go to certain stores and men will not look at me, they won’t even help me even though they work there. As if my breasts and image indicate I am unworthy of being addressed. I’ve always been very blunt and wanted to hang with the guys, but I don’t know if I actually want to be trans. I’m jealous of the brotherhood of the boys will be boys but I’m older now and I don’t have any friends so even if I transition it’s not like I will get this brotherhood I’m looking for. I still struggle with connecting with others.

I don’t want more body hair. I’ve heard being a man in this world is super depressing too and idk if I can handle that. I would lose my current partner. I’m not sure if I want any kind of surgery. Or to go on testosterone. I’ve considered it but am unsure. All my life I was afraid of being seen as too manly because I didn’t follow female social norms and now I question things and am unsure if I would want to be a man or woman. Or if I should just stay as non binary.

Any advice or feedback would be helpful thank you.

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u/Kirbystummy — 9 hours ago

Any femme presenting non binary here ?

Here’s the deal, I don’t feel female or male, but I love to wear ultra femme clothing and I am a femme lesbian non binary gender nonconforming person (I am gender nonconforming internally not externally). Thing is, I don’t want top surgery, cause I like my A cup breast. and I like to wear female clothing.

Is this valid? It’s more about some aspect of my body I don’t like (the only thing I am dysphoric about is female reproductive system) and some social gender roles that gives me gender dysphoria, my gender dysphoria is very selective as I would describe.
It’s more like “ I am not necessarily a woman, yet I am not born in the wrong body, cause I see my female body as aesthetics instead of reproductive system”.

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u/ricksalterego — 20 hours ago

Advice on friend groups and identity.

So, I’m 27 and have never felt right with being called a man. I’m not exactly sure what I would label myself as. I think somewhere between gender fluid and nonbinary would be accurate. More gender fluid leaning though. My pronouns don’t really matter much to me. I switch a lot with being more feminine or masculine depending on the day, but still a little neutral. I’m bipolar too, so my mood shifts add to how I’m “identifying” each day. I have a few questions that I’d like some help with. I’m comfortable with myself personally. I’m not afraid to tell my friends, but I just don’t know how or when to bring it up.

First, does anyone have issues feeling left out in their friend groups? I have a large group and they break off for “girls night” once a week. I don’t always feel left out, but when it lines up with days that I feel more she than he it’s kinda hard. Is it weird if I asked to be included sometimes?

Second, how did you tell your friends that you want to go by a different name? I’ve decided I want to go by a different more neutral name. I know my friends are supportive, but it’s still hard to bring up for me. Tips are appreciated.

Third, this one isn’t as important. Any tips for dressing and feeling more feminine when you have a very masculine build? I’m like 6’4” and have very broad shoulders.

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Am I actually non-binary?

Hello. To explain my situation, I'm quite confused. I'm afab, 18, lived like a girl, I was fine with it. At some age I rejected skirts, thinking it's too feminine for me, but thought it's just a classic teen protest. About a year ago I started wearing them again cause it's kinda cute. I like some traditionally feminine stuff, I like to be in spaces with other women, all my close friends are girls. In general, I'm totally fine with being surrounded by girls and doing "girly" stuff(tho I never imagine myself being a trad wife or something, I'm pretty set on more modern view of family, I want to have a family in the future and work), but lately I've been thinking that I don't exactly feel like a woman myself? I'm not exactly sure. On one hand I lived just fine, I never felt like I hate being a girl(but I hate when people described me as feminine in my mothetongue. Just hate the word for some reason), I want to be included near women and I could imagine my future as one. But right now I'm not so sure??

Barely two weeks ago I felt like it stopped fitting. I started identifying as non-binary and use he/him pronouns. Practically everywhere. At home, with friends. And I liked being called he and masculine words(mister for example?). Since then I'm thinking about it, and I look through some identities under the enby umbrella, but I can't exactly understand what would resonate with me yet. I know I'm not agender, I don't feel like I'm a perfect 50/50 balance either, but I don't know what side I lean on. At one hand I look feminine and present so, but on other hand I like being "him", I like the mental image of being physically a guy. Honestly, I'd want to be able to shapeshift between me like this and guy's body. I like how a woman's body is, it's beautiful, but at the same time I just like imagining being on different side. At this point I don't know what exactly do I want. Through these two weeks I've been called she by my parents, he by friends, I liked hearing he more, but on the other hand there were times I genuinely wanted to switch back to she. I want to be a woman in a way too, but not just a woman. I thought about demigirl but the name just pushes me off? It's not exactly it. Maybe it's not less of a woman, but something else on top?

I started to think maybe I'm genderfluid or bigender, but I'm not sure. I tried looking through experiences of people on Reddit, but most posts were with much more telling signs of people leaning towards the specific gender, and I didn't see something that would be similar to my thoughts, so didn't help much. Or I tried wrong phrases to look for🫠

I remember a moment when I did an eyebrow split, had my hair tied back and looked somewhat more masc for a moment. I liked it, but brushed off quickly. Also when my mom says "but you're a girl", I often respond with "then now I'm a guy", but I thought of it as rejecting some sexist standards. In my family we also can use the opposite gendered words when jokingly insulting someone or just for fun, so it's also a thing I did. I'm also not sure who I'm attracted to. I'm thinking maybe bi? I don't know because I never had a strong crush on anyone, only light ones on both boys and girls, but I'm not sure they're a valid "crushes"

To be honest I've been trying out he pronoun for a few months with my non-binary friend, but after I watched the finale of tadc and post about Jax being a trans woman, I was surprised, because I didn't read the signs, but the thought of someone not being clear to me personally as trans person, actually turning out to be one made me question my own identity more. Like, if it can be not so obvious, can it be a case for me? Am I then valid enough to be not what I'm used to? It's probably silly but soon after that I risked to try out different pronouns.

I'm really lost rn. Also kinda scared that I made everything up and I'm just a girl who's trying to seem different

Either way, I would really appreciate if someone could share similar thoughts on their identity journey or tips on how to test how you feel without drastic changes. I don't want to cut my hair or change my entire wardrobe for now. Thank you for reading this❤️

(I'm sorry if I communicated my thoughts weirdly at any point of the text, I never meant to upset anyone or imply that any identity is better or worse, I'm just trying to find out what do I feel like)

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u/DtcucijokCoko — 1 day ago

How did y'all find out you're non-binary? What does it mean to you?

Elo yall! Soo im a bit unsure

Im 19 and i've been 'actively' bi and demi for quite some time now - it was a long way tho finding that out, coming from a conservative family... Also probably neurodivergent and sex repulsed.
Many of my friends are queer in some way or another. One of my friends is non-binary, thats how i first got to know about this term.

In the past i had never questioned that i could be anything else than a cis hetero man - as already mentioned i was quite wrong about the hetero thing >< And its now that i've also started thinking more about the "am i a man?" part.

Id just present my 'evidence' / thoughts and... maybe that resonates with someone? I dont want any answers, I'll have to give them to myself ofc but maybe it would help to hear about yall's experiences 🙈

So,

I know that for a long time i've always felt a little 'strange' about being referred to as a man. Like i was secretly gaslighting others that i am one and then feeling dishonest (?) in some way that it worked? Even tho i wasnt gaslighting anyone ofc.

Also i think im indifferent to pronouns? Like, I've been "he" for my entire life and i think thats okay. But..
"You wanna say 'they'?" Okayyy yea alrighty
"You refer to me as 'she'?" Uhh Okayy? I mean that would be strange at first cuz of it being unfamiliar. But I wouldn't give a fuck I think. Maybe it would even feel nice in some way. "hey can you help her real quick?", that doesn't sound bad.

Same with clothing. I wanna get even more into alternative style. But like, neutral? I don't wanna look like a strong male or smth, but also not too feminine? Preferably a perfectly androgynous style with mixed elements.

It's like, I just have my name in my head but no thoughts after that. Nothing thats tied to gender?

Lastly i dont think im experiencing dysphoria. (i know that this is not a definite yes/no criteria). I do have issues with "having a body" in general but thats for different reasons i think.

Yeaaa so very long text, sorry about that haha 😅
(also yea, this is a new account, i feel more comfortable with that)

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Nb Couple first name ask.

Hi all,

We are a NB couple who want both the X marker in our passports.

Both we are inside the furry fandom and wearing and making fursuits, and have a cat as fursona.

Now we can also change our first names when obtain for the x marker.

Both we want have the same first cat looking first name.

We want change our names into Feline-Katze ( Katze translated to english means cat ).

That's the idea what we both have in our minds to become more feline/cat.

What do you people think about our idea, to be a couple both with the X marker and both with the same first names?

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u/Skovkatt- — 1 day ago

Am i the only one who doesnt feel dysphoric about bathrooms

I look female so I usually use womens bathrooms

And I think im fine with this

Even if I got forced to use mens bathroom with cis men I dont think i would care much

to me bathrooms are just place to shit and wash my hands nothing more

But i'd prefer to use gender neutral bathroom if there is a one tho

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u/Accomplished_Low4344 — 2 days ago

I know I'm not Cis, but is it weird that I don't consider myself Trans?

Recently I came out to myself and the closest label I found similar to what I feel is a demiboy, personally, as someone who always struggled to define themself, for once I felt right. However as the title says, although I know that my gender is not Cis, I'm not really comfortable referring to myself as Trans. I was wondering if this is a thing that anyone else feel, or if I'm just the only one. I want to add that I am AMAB, which I'm not entirely sure even has anything to do with what I'm experiencing, but I think it could so I just wanted to state it.

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u/JeremyStars423 — 2 days ago

anyone know the most used term to refer to ppl who are prejudiced against nonbinary ppl? i have a few issues with some ones being used today

so “enbyphobe”/“nonbinaryphobe” is just a total no from me, given how laughed upon those terms are. “transmeds” typically covers a whole lot of ppl who are that but it only mostly applies to those who are trans/allied with trans ppl. and “exorsexist” is the only term i rlly know of that describes that, and i still use it alot to this day, with the micro-problem that it is less well-known, but my slightly bigger issue with it is that it surprisingly sounds too cool to be used to describe a subsection of bigots in this world lol. so yeah i can quickly see that word being used by them in a proud sense and stuff quickly collapsing after that

so these are all the terms i know of off the top of my head, is there a term besides those to apply to ppl in general who are that, regardless if they’re cis bigots or trans? (also isn’t the obvious term that is transphobia, but a term that specifically pertains to prejudice against non-binary trans ppl)

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u/Qlowquest — 2 days ago

Those who have no option but pretend to be cis/your AGAB, how do you make it not too uncomfortable?

My body dysphoria isn't always there and it's not always that bad, but i hate it when people inevitably refer to me as a woman or compliment my feminine features. I also don't refer to myself as a woman/girl/etc unless it's really necessary because it makes me uncomfortable, but i feel like it makes me seem strange to others.

Can i somehow get more comfortable living as a woman? I'll try creating a character that's my ideal self, but i think i need to get comfortable with my real life female self too.

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u/blahajenjoyerr — 3 days ago

How does a non binary decides to take T?

Hi, i’m 21 (he/they) and I found out I was non binary when I was 14, jumped through bigender and gender fluid till I found out I was actually agender.

So, a month ago I had a little episode and my friend helped me (the context is really long and uncomfortable), I started going on a rant about how I was never gonna be a real boy, how I would never be able to do things boys do, and have the things boys have.

Like: Mainly build, deep voice, goatee, have sex, masturbate and ejaculate like a boy, but here’s the switch, I don’t want to be a boy, at least not for now and never wanted to, yes, ever since a child I would express how much I wanted to be born a boy, still, I would love to be born a man (not raised tho) but I don’t know if I can transition into one.

I’ve searched all the surgeries (meta and phallo) and idk it kinda of gets me because I have lived in this body for 21 years, I got used to the body, and I don’t know how it would be changing it, like, I love my pussy and the feeling it brings me, when I was a kid I had a dream that I had both private parts (pussy and dick) and it was amazing, I wish I could have that but I can’t.

So yeah that’s it, I know many people are gonna tell me to take this slow because I haven’t even started T yet, but that’s the thing, I want to be sure on what I want so I don’t regret it, I know you can stop T whenever you want but there are irreversible things like bottom growth, and i really don’t know how my mental health would be if I regretted taking T and never have a pussy again.

I also know that the way you see yourself can change on T and yes I have a therapist, just wanted to know people’s experiences.

I don’t know if you’ll be able to understand me but I hope somebody can help me because I spend hours on my day thinking how much I would love myself more if I had a goatee, mainly build, how much my self esteem steam would spike and things like that but at times I just get myself thinking “this body is ok” because im used to so many things in it and I don’t know how it would be to change it.

Like yeah im okay in this body but I don’t feel pretty, i’m not polite, I hate myself, life and everything, I am super irritable with everything, I used to sh when I was 12, I have anger issues, you know? i’m ok in this body but anyone can tell I don’t love or even like it.

I’m 21, 5’2 in height, weighs 100lbs max and have an ectomorph biotype, I dont know if this will change that much but i’m not ready to, I want to be bulkier and taller but also don’t know if that’s gonna happen.

you don’t have to give me advice, if you could only reply with a relatable experience that would already be awesome, thank you everyone and sorry if I made any keyboard mistake 🙄

I posted this because i’m having A LOT of trouble seeing the future “but do you see yourself with a feminine or masculine body type?” like I don’t know bro i’ve been thinking abt unaliving myself since I was 12 😭😭 but yeah it really bothers me in public when someone looks at me and asks “are you a girl or a boy” and I love it but I gotta take all my happiness away by answering “girl” but yeah I don’t feel like neither and don’t want to be neither despite wanting a mainly body, like I can’t imagine myself replying “boy” to this or even seeing myself like a boy.

GUYS IM TALKING ABT THE CLITORIS NOT THE VAGINAL CANAL HAHA SORRY

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u/TecToniic49 — 3 days ago

Is anyone else just numb to being perceived as their AGAB?

It's crazy cuz I've been on a low dose of T for 3 years and 7 months post op. I have a deep voice , a wispy mustache, I shave my beard hair due to sensory issues . But I'm fairly hairy . Overall I feel like I " pass" since I'm transmasc but I don't which I'm ok with now but in the past it would really bug me. I stopped dressing feminine when I first started T and changed how I looked to " pass " since I thought I was a binary trans man but nothing worked . Now post op top surgery I can give less of a fuck but it still hurts. I can actually wear girly clothes without feeling dysphoric and I love to talk now that I basically can't be quiet at times . I just wonder what clocks me at times lol. I'm just so numb to it. I just wonder if anyone else is just so numb to being misgendered that it just doesn't phase them anymore .

I mean I would prefer they/them , but overall I can care less about what people call me since I actually feel happy in my body which is something I haven't felt since I was a kid. I just wonder if not caring anymore is a part of the trans experience in anyway. I mean my pronouns are they/he. They/them for other lbgt+ peeps and he/him for everyone else like family which would never use gender neutral pronouns or people who are cishet that I know who don't get being Nonbinary and mess my pronouns up . I rather just be called he/him for simplicity. But also I'm okay with strangers using my AGAB pronouns since I can't really do something about a random person using them I feel like I should care or atleast feel expected to care . But I just don't have enough spoons .

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u/4ng3licNymph-jpeg — 3 days ago

Getting my thoughts in order about hrt and social transition, looking for advice/validation if anything

Hey all, for some background I (almost 22"M") have been having mixed feelings for a while and have settled on likely being some flavor of nonbinary (most likely agender). I've known for years I wasn't cis, but had--what I thought at the time was--very minor dysphoria except for facial hair which went away as long as I shaved, and a general ew feeling around traditional gender roles. I never told anybody I was nonbinary because I always thought I'd be ok "playing the part" of a cis guy.

I'd been flip flopping on the idea of hrt for a few years at this point, but only seriously considering it recently. I noticed as I'm entering my 20s that my beard is finally getting to the point I have a visible shadow after shaving and unfortunately I'm having early stages of a receding hairline. It's made me come to the conclusion that *I don't want to age as a guy.*

After that, things clicked and I'm like 90% sure I want to start taking hrt to have a more androgynous body and not keep aging as a man. I'm interested in the physical effects of hrt, and even just thinking about it has helped mentally. Thinking of being on hrt has made start eating less and exercising to lose weight. I've been fat since I was in my teens and never had motivation to lose weight because I felt disconnected from my body. Now that I see a future where I'm happy with my body I'm finally getting the motivation to lose weight.

That said, by far the most intimidating part though is social transition/being visibly queer. I'm ace but that doesn't really affect my life aside from not having a partner and have been cis presenting my whole life. I thought I was out and being LGBT didn't affect me, but man is it intimidating being out when it'd affect my physical appearance.

I live with my Mom and am currently dependent on her (only working part time--other mental health reasons). Because of financial reasons and the fact She's a very observant and detail-oriented person, she'd definitely notice me getting Rx's or transitioning. She's wonderful and we have a very close relationship, but had me quite late as an older parent. She's very supportive of gay rights but trans rights are a much more recent movement to her, and I think she doesn't "get" being trans the same way she "gets" being gay.

I've tried to slowly bring up trans issues in conversations to gauge her thoughts. She seemed somewhat critical of trans people while I was growing up from the anti-trans sentiment of the 2010s, but has been getting better as she's met trans people through her work, seen more trans rep in media, etc. and seen that they're just normal people. I think she'd be supportive of me, especially since I'm still planning on being cis-presenting for a while and she'd have time to adjust, but it's still a really intimidating conversation to have. I had a really easy coming out as bi (before I realized I was ace) and I'm finally realizing how scary it can be.

Sorry for the rambly post. I originally started it as a "how did you know hrt was for you" post, but as I was writing it I realized I already knew what I wanted and am more just intimidated by the process of transitioning and coming out to my family. If anyone wants to share their experiences I'd really appreciate it, just trying to work up the courage to start hrt and by extension out myself to family/close friends.

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u/man-of-pipis — 3 days ago

I hate how hard it is for me to relate to most of my trans friends

Hey yall, agender here, mostly present myself as male since my country isn't good for non-cishets.

Something Ive been noticing more and more about myself recently is how awkward I feel whenever someone starts talking about their gender, especially if they are pretty directly trans (by that I mean their gender identity is opposite of what they were assigned at birth), just to clarify, I have absolutely nothing against trans people, its a mental struggle of my own. Im pretty sure its because genuine desire to conform to a specific gender, while completely normal, feels so fucking alien to me. To me having to conform feels like a prison, I get a bitter taste in my throat whenever I have to refer to myself as a guy, I want to cry every time I see a beautiful dress that Id look lovely in, but I can't wear it since it's not what guys wear, it feels like shackles, like a constraint, I fucking hate it with my whole heart. I would never conform if it wasn't for societal expectations and it feels so odd seeing someone not cis wanting to be a specific gender and suffering when they are unable to do so for one reason or another. In my head this desire is built specifically by what you're expected to be like because of your gender identity.

Anyways I once again want to say that I am by no means hateful towards any gender identity I think Im just a little fucked up and it makes me feel really weird when gender identities come up in a discussion and I wanted to share it somewhere since I really dont know where I can talk about it. I'm wondering if anyone can relate and it would be nice to hear some advice about what I should do with these feelings

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u/stupidlilboy — 3 days ago

I don't think there's anything that could fix my dysphoria.

It's a bit of a doomer post, but I'm so dysphoric. I wanna look androgynous but it's impossible for me. I have wide hips and my body looks curvy and I'm short. I work out a lot to balance it out which helps, and I have chest dysphoria, but getting top surgery would make my butt look too big compared to my flat chest and that would give me even more dysphoria.

I could take T to have a more masculine appearance, but if I spend enough time on T I'll just look like a guy which would also give me dysphoria.

If I don't transition medically, I'm dysphoric, but if I transition that would also make me dysphoric in other ways. I can't win and idk what to do

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u/moldy_bread3 — 4 days ago

For those who have done Microdosing of HRT/Estrogen

Hi all. Transfem leaning Enby here. I much prefer to be a feminine appearing person, and I've accepted to some degree that I'm both Trans and Nonbinary.

However, I do not have massive gender dysphoria. I like my body. I just wish it was more... feminine. I don't really necessarily desire to completely change myself from the inside out with a whole HRT regimen. However, subtle things, like that could possibly be provided from smaller doses of HRT, I feel like I could possibly roll with.

For those who have done similarly, what exactly have been your affects? Also, are sexual affects less likely for those who only micro dose, compared to those that go all out? I'm married to a cisgender woman, and I don't particularly relish the idea of not being able to perform sexually or lose the use of my penis.

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u/SendThisVoidAway18 — 4 days ago
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being genderless in “gender-dominated” industries: the game doesn’t make sense to me and i just seem bitter because i’m losing 🙃

hi! ⭐️

so i’ve been unemployed for about six months, and unresolved gender issues are part of why i can unfortunately never hold down a job. i am agender and have a fluid presentation; i have a VERY “feminine” body, and while i never would’ve chosen this body for myself, i try to make the best of it by wearing what i like and doing what i want, regardless of how disparate those choices may be from a social or aesthetic lens. i am not medically transitioning, nor modifying the body in any way (other than, like, piercings 😉); i don’t identify with this body, but i find some form of joy in using it as a canvas for makeup and fashion.

i am from a healthcare background, which is primarily a woman-dominated industry, though i did once work in a healthcare facility where the majority of employees were men. i have never once successfully been “out” in the workplace, and i feel like being out and not being out both cause problems for me, unfortunately. in the workplace that was primarily men, i was accidentally outed when an angry resident ripped my shirt open and everyone saw i was wearing a chest binder; i hadn’t been passing as a man AT ALL, but as a weird woman, and seeing that i was intentionally flattening my chest made people question if there were reasons why - and obviously there WERE, but i explained the reasons very poorly, and for a little while, people believed i was an early-transition binary trans man, but when i never transitioned or got better in any way, they stopped believing me, and it sort of created an environment where i had to prove myself as at least neutral among these men, which i couldn’t do, and i was eventually let go.

i moved onto a nursing home, which is a very woman-centered environment, both from the perspective of employees and residents. i was on the receiving end of invasive questions from both residents and staff, especially about my body and my weight; again, people were flabbergasted that i appeared to have no chest, but have incredibly wide hips. my voice was also an issue, because i have a cis-passing deep voice, and obviously i won’t do anything to “correct” is, because it’s actually the only thing in this body i have going for me; my voice was perceived as so “dissonant” from my body that HR actually had to get involved - not on my behalf, but on behalf of the company, and i was branded as a troublemaker. i tried to work harder and be a more productive and valuable employee to prove that both the shape of my body and my inability to accept the shape of my body shouldn’t matter in a workplace environment, but was eventually fired.

i’m now in the second rounds of interviews at a warehouse that has openly stated they would prefer a man for this role. because i was assigned female at birth, and have a body more feminine than cis women’s bodies, i am highly unlikely to be considered for the job - but i also really need money. 🥲 but if i DO land this job, i’m really worried about my ability to make it work in a position where people will have sexist thoughts against me even being there. obviously, i am unable to convince people that i’m an ally to women but am of a different gender altogether, so that’s out. but i’m worried i’ll spiral under both their sexist bullshit and the fact that it’s only happening to me in particular because of the body i got trapped in. i feel like i’m almost incapable of working anywhere where my body can be seen, which is unfortunately MOST POSITIONS. 🙃

people can obviously tell there’s something “off” about me as it relates to gender, but they can never tell what it is, and then i do a poor job of picking up the slack and explaining what’s going on. in my vision of a perfect world in this scenario, i’d get the warehouse job, be the weird genderless employee in the corner who doesn’t really talk a lot but isn’t unkind, and management wouldn’t be sexist to ANYONE, regardless of how they identify or what they were assigned at birth or what body type they have. in a less-perfect vision of that, i’d still be the weird genderless guy in the corner, and i’d be an ally TO anyone experiencing sexism, but my personal body type wouldn’t be brought into it at all.

i should also mention: I AM NOT AGENDER TO ESCAPE SEXISM - OBVIOUSLY I HAVE NOT ESCAPED SEXISM, AND I DO NOT BELIEVE ANYONE SHOULD HAVE TO PUT UP WITH SEXIST ATTITUDES OR BEHAVIORS OR DISCRIMINATION AT ALL!!! because i know somebody’s gonna see this as me degendering myself to escape patriarchy and leaving women behind, and i PROMISE you it’s not that; i’m just autistic, i don’t have a gender, but sexism and gender discrimination literally also do not make sense to me and i don’t want to be an ally to people who experience it, because that requires people to experience it and i don’t WANT people to experience it, but in a world WHERE people are made to experience sexism, i will always be an ally to them because i personally find it to be so illogical and dehumanizing and egregious. but i also literally do not perceive myself as anything, in the interview one person was saying to another that corporate might take issue with them onboarding “her” because of “her gender”, and despite BEING THE ONLY PERSON THEY WERE INTERVIEWING, it took me way too long to figure out she was ME 🥲 because, in my mind, there’s nothing wrong with being a woman, a woman is a morally-neutral thing to be, but i am genderless and can pass as male.

but obviously my body is NOT genderless, and i CANT pass as male. but i’m not comfortable changing the body, and obviously have no fucking money anyway, it’s been six months. so what do i DO?!

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