korra is the main character any relationship she is in needs a certain amount of buildup so korra would have higher standards then say bolin with a side character or sokka

on the blush stuff as ikiinn put it : The thing with the blush scene is that while, yes, it’s easy to see as Korra having a crush on Asami if it’s taken out of the context of the show, I feel like that sort of ignores the way that it contradicts Korra’s previous characterization with regards to crushing on people.

I mean, we all saw how Korra acted when she was crushing on Mako, right? One of the things I liked most about her portrayal there was that she wasn’t insecure and blushy about liking Mako. She blushed a couple of times in situations where she was actually embarrassed by her actions towards him, but she never blushed just because she liked him or he complimented her.

And, in contrast, she did blush when Bolin complimented her, but she was never interested in him romantically.

If Korra were Katara or Aang or Opal, I’d definitely see the blush as romantic. But Korra is Korra, and that means that this sort of blushiness isn’t actually in-character for her. It’s a lot more consistent with her previous characterization for her to be blushing because she’s feeling insecure about herself than because she’s feeling insecure because of romantic feelings.

and to be blunt korra and asami didnt get anywhere enough for a romance what they got belonged to the realms of friendship

( if anything it is makorra that got enough for a korra single but hints to makorra getting backtogether given the ship tease in b4 and b3 ( in b3 and b4 they barely interacted or got focus

some people try to make an arguement about subtlety or censorship but korra isnt subtle person. the way she reacted to asamis compliment is how korra reacted to bolins compliment in both times they felt bad about themselves

>“Censorship explains why we couldn’t get a kiss and an “I love you” in the finale or blatant romantic scenes, not the utter lack of Korra-Asami interaction as a whole. They had six (to six and a half) minutes of interaction in the last season, spread out over six interactions/conversations. They’ve had nearly no on-screen interaction since “Long Live the Queen,” actually. They had the 5 second “I can come to the South Pole” convo in “Korra Alone” (which Korra refused), the single letter, their interactions in “Reunions,” and then the tea scene in “Remembrances.” After that, they don’t speak again until the last two minutes of the finale. The episode after “Remembrances” is the Korra-Mako field trip to the Spirit Wilds and Zaheer’s prison and the culmination of Korra’s recovery arc. Where was Asami? She had two lines in the whole episode, and they were both to Varrick.”

to be honest korra showed more emotional intimacy to kuvira and opal then she did to asami

while asami failed to support korra in remembrances mako succeeded to support korra in the korra and mako fieldtrip

( and his speech in remembrances sends the message that he would have halped korra in the remembrances episode)

( and it bothers people when they try to equate korrasami to kataang going but here is the image of korra and asami standing right next to each other nad both their names start with the same letters

in terms of narrative structure, relationship build-up, and actual interactions,

makorra is the kataang of the relationship

I have seen plenty of people make the but if asami was a guy excuse which ignores the obvious counterpoint that if asami was a guy that means by b3 he has only shown attraction to men

( I feel the only reason korrasami took off was the irrational hate for mako so they ship it to spite and punish mako for daring to be a flawed man who was emotionally immature in conflict resolution and try to vilify mako to be something he isnt

seriously korra is just as responsible for the mess by the logic korra and mako should both end the show single

korrasami seemed nonexistent ( I mean my take mako took every role meant for the love interest heck when jinora said they couldnt find her it was mako's face that was focused on

and it didnt help how korrasami shippers accuse people of homophobia for not shipping it or claiming that they would see evidence if asami was a guy (when not really ( nothing would really change korra has shown no interest in asami ( not to mention I have to note that two girls would interact differently from a guy and a girl ( gender of course is important)

I could say if asami were a guy he would be hated and insulted

another part of the korrrsami hatred is bryke using the status of being a same sex ship as shield ( or how they only threw it in in last minutes for publicity of making a same sex ship canon only caring about the genders involved )

a big part of the hate comes from the accusations of homophobia or people claiming you would ship it if asami was a guy ( why target asami not korra) ignoring asamis character and how it would look if genderbent

lets be real if we keep korra as a guy people would say asami is a shallow love interest ( and if anything

or the heteronormativity claim saying you would ship it if one of them was a guy you just didnt see it because of het lenses comes off as an insulting and desperate acccusation to deflect from korrasami having nonexistent buildup

people can flip it on them and say they only ship it because its 2 girls and the irrrational hatred for mako daring to be a human being with flaws so they feel the need to spite and punish him and seeing evidence where there is none

the attempts to claim not seeing evidence for korrasami is due to some bias or moral failing or that not shipping it is a moral failing just adds to the anger

not to mention trying to undermine mako and korras relationship ( from claiming they broke up due to incompatibility and acting like arguing at all is unhealthy to undermining b1 and b2 korra and claiming she defined herself around a boy I remember seeing people who would reduce the complex character korra was in books 1 & 2 to “bratty teenage girl likes boys tew much until she dates a girl and magically all possible issues are resolved because all same sex couples work like tumblr fairytales”

or the fanfics I have seen which do that or claim mako didnt love korra as a person when mako always loved her as a person his love for her always came down from understanding

I have to be real it feels like korrasami only happened due to the haters poisoning brykes minds and that effecting their writing like the whole korra needed to suffer to learn compassion etc

lets be real here korra has shown no romantic feelings for each other nor strong platonic feelings for asami. korra is not passive or subtle we see how she acted with mako.

korra blushing at asamis compliment If it was someone besides korra I might have thought maybe ( but korra isnt the type to behave that way
Its why I agree with ikkins posts on why korrasami couldnt last

"It’s not in-line with the way we saw Korra act as part of a couple, though. Even at its fluffiest, Korra’s interactions with Mako were always active rather than passive; she’s never come off as the sort of person who’d get much out of sitting around, even if it was with someone she loved. Just like in the finale, Asami’s desires and preferences are given primacy and Korra’s are handwaved away for the sake of shipping fluff. =/

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korra was so ooc the only explanation for it is korra still having issues

( which is why if we keep the finale

there are some ways to explain Korra’s actions that aren’t horribly out of character, at least – say, Korra feels guilty about what happened to Hiroshi and wants to try to help Asami cope

"The fact that Korra and Asami didn’t make out was never my issue. My issue is that Asami was never treated like a main character after Book 1 and that their platonic interactions in Book 4 were tepid and shallow . My issue is that people are demanding I be invested in a romantic ship that the creators seemed barely interested in developing as a friendship. And yeah, this shit is subjective, and if you picked up on romantic subtext, then good for you, but a whole lot of folks over here did not, and we think it is cheap and unfair to be told by two straight men (and frankly a lot of straight people in the fandom) that this is due to some moral failing on our part.

Furthermore, can we not remind people enough times that Bryke didn’t even check with the network until most of Book 4 was already in the can? If this was so fucking important then why didn’t they, I dunno, run it by an exec at the scripting stage? Why does this entire thing feel like such a fucking afterthought? Why are you demanding that people bow down and worship two straight men for putting in literally the least amount of effort possible on this whole thing?

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I would suggest a makorra story where mako talks to korra due to worry and mimics what korra did

in b1 and basically confess ( I feel like he should do this knowing of asamis feelings for korra for in the past he was so afraid of disappointing people he disappointed everyone and avoided conflict due to seeing starting conflict equals to burning bridges that he would be willing to be vulnerable like this ( well what he did in b1 was an example of that to a lesser extent where he gave up control)

and chose to try be happy even if it meant someone he cared about ( asami ) got hurt ( I find the idea of charater growth for him means being happy for korrasami to be silly.

I dunno, I just get the vibe that Tenzin is the show's narrator, and not just because he narrates the intro. The show is mainly about legacy and change, and it's embodied in Tenzin and Korra’s relationship.

Tenzin is at first a stickler for traditions but his attitude gradually changes as he observes Korra’s progress. He sort of conveys how the audience felt about the show's change in aesthetics and Aang's legacy going forward.

What the hellll is up with Korra and korrasami hate like??? And why do people keep insisting that korra and asami's relationship made no sense, as if her relationship with mako made any sense??? They weren't even compatible, at least korra and asami were close and bonded.

What the title says

This is a thought I've had long before I knew anything about Seven Havens (and I still don't know much, and I don't know if this post applies to it at all), but I've been thinking about how the supposed wise and noble sages of the world tell us that respecting the spirits is of paramount importance.

And from a certain point of view, I get that. The Mother of Faces, for example, is extremely old and has been performing a service for humanity for who knows how many eons. Someone so old and so powerful is prone to be proud and to expect to be acknowledged and respected for what they have been doing for so long.

But spirits in general... On the whole, they generally seem (at best) not to care about humans either way, or (at worse) to be outright hostile.

During Avatar Wan's time, he fought against humans to protect the spirits. But the Spirit World is where the spirits are from, and they had pretty much invaded and conquered the physical world at that time. They kill and mutilate humans with little to no remorse.

Wan Shi Tong doesn't seem to care that the Avatar is a different person when they reincarante and let his grudge with Aang carry over to Korra. Even Koh the Face Stealer recognized that different avatars are different people.

And the spirits who dwelled in the wilds of Republic City equated Korra's desire to defend their mutual home to a would be conqueror's desire to destroy and control. And then they disappeared until the battle was over, only for Tenzin to celebrate their return, when all they had done was neglect Korra, who was one of the few humans actually trying to bridge the differences between humans and spirits without *being* the bridge herself.

So, I suppose I'll just let the title of this post speak for itself: Do the spirits truly deserve respect? What have they done to earn it?

I get that a few spirits are supportive of humans, but those tend to be unique individuals rather than groups. Before the cute little spirits who gathered in the Tree Of Time at the start of Book Four, I don't think I've ever seen that many spirits before or since who were truly friendly and just offered unconditional acceptance and help.

And when we get to the more powerful spirits... Tui and La seem to respect the humans who respect them and rage against some random guest character nobody remembers who hurt them. Ensign Zu or something? The Mother Of Faces seems proud, but not violent. Koh is happy to steal the face of anyone he encounters, it seems. Wan Shi Tong is arrogant and holds unreasonable grudges. Father Glowworm is just bad news. I recall a mountain spirit that Korra and Asami didn't realize they were climbing who - if I recall correctly (and I might not be) - did not care to listen to their arguments and tossed them a long way and would have probably killed them both if not for Korra's bending.

And spirits on the whole tend to expect a certain level of respect from humans but generally don't feel any obligation to respect show their own respect to humans in turn.

To put things in terms for a proper Avatar... Is it just me, or does the whole dynamic seem fundamentally Out Of Balance?