r/nonduality

Can anyone advise me on how to get out of the spiral loops when it comes to thinking about thinking, or thoughts that arise about being aware of thoughts type of thing.

It feels like chasing my tail and also makes me feel like there’s no way of arriving at what it is I’m seeking for. Like it doesn’t even exist so why try, or that I’m just wasting my time believing that if I chase my tail hard enough some freedom from anxiety will happen. It’s actually giving me tons of anxiety.

That the higher the levels of conciousness the better reaction to psychedelics? Why some people get beautiful experiences after shrooms or THC and other get full blown psychotic?

I’m so identified and if I have any clarity it’s 30 seconds.

There was something noticed in meditation today for the first time. There is the witness / observer / awareness and then there’s the observed—even the witness / awareness is an object within consciousness. The Witness does not mean ego, it is prior, then there’s something even prior to awareness—prefer the term absolute consciousness that I stole from Maharaj because I couldn’t come up with a better one. I never knew what he meant till today.

I know I’ll never be able to describe this perfectly using words. But sharing is caring.

Flow, awareness, presence, non-self, true self, oneness...

These and many others are all subtle interpretative frameworks that the mind tends to land on to in the spiritual path. They are necessary tools that aid the understanding and the seeing beyond the grosser interpretative framework of the self-construct, which the belief in is what causes the bulk of our apparent suffering.

However, the biggest freedom manifests when these spiritual views themselves are also questioned and seen beyond. Only then is experience allowed the total freedom to constantly construct and destroy these seeming structures without the self-imposed imaginary pressure to land anywhere in particular, or to maintain any one particular perception in time.

It's almost like a transcendental game of lego where the pieces themselves, their reality status and even the time and space where the game is being played in will all be made to look different at different times, completely changing the rules at its own whims.

And this post also inevitably outlines an interpretative framework that is liable to be shattered. It's what happens anytime we open our mouths. But I'm not convinced the solution is simply to 'shut up', then, as even that movement of intention will have its own set of ideas and assumptions behind it, which when they go unquestioned then easily becomes just another dogma.

(was gonna post on r/enlightenment but this subreddit seems more helpful) Hi i'm 16, and have had a couple spiritual non dualistic states of awareness before (mostly psychedelic) and Ive learned a bit about all the buddha stuff but having a hard time going deeper. I would appreciate some tips on meditation or practices, i've heard there is many types but i find myself just sitting their and thinking or not thinking, or just trying to let go but it doesn't feel like i' getting anywhere. Should i be asking myself questions should I just let myself be. I can do these things but they dont feel like i'm any closer to a better understanding/experience of non duality.

Sorry if this is a bit convoluted.

I experienced a non-dual state where I was not separable from God/consciousness. I saw how I had mistaken my thoughts and life experiences for reality. I was full of love and compassion, and laughed so hard because the truth is so simple and just here under our noses.

That feeling has gradually subsided. Now I just feel the pain of separation and longing to return to that unity. I also know that the more I want it, the more out of reach it becomes.

So what now? I don’t want to be blind again, and I also feel a bit disoriented about who I am and what to do.

Has anyone had this experience?

For a long time I was shocked by the realization that awareness is empty. But I now realize it's only empty relative to all the supposed forms of the mind. It's actually incredibly full of everything that I am. I see no point in trying to describe this further. Has anybody else had a similar insight? I want to ask if this Is this even an accurate way of thinking, but it feels pretty non-thought related.

I've been meditating for about 20 years. I've had the realization of my true nature, and there are times when my thinking completely stops for hours, and sometimes, with shorter or longer interruptions, even for days.

However, my thinking eventually starts up again, and the same old negative thought patterns return. Even though I'm now mostly the observer of these thoughts rather than identifying with them, they still affect my experience.

If I can't remain in continuous presence all the time, wouldn't it make sense to consciously cultivate gratitude and more positive ways of thinking? If the stream of thought is going to restart anyway, why not shape it into something that is more beneficial and enjoyable instead of letting the old patterns take over?

How do you approach this? What is the long-term solution from your perspective?

A civilization millions of years more advanced might manipulate stars or black holes in ways we can't.

Above the line,so what could the Future discover or able? Do you've idea? Beyond thoughts? Like Electricity, People didn't even think about that, it exist, it's kinda miracle

If Moksha is the sole purpose of life, sanyaasa seems like the obvious conclusion. Why keep one foot in samsara at all?

But here's my honest hesitation: my upbringing was nowhere near a renunciate life. And I fear that if I renounce, my "detachment" would quietly decay into tamas – inertia dressed up as vairagya.

The Gita keeps pointing me toward karma yoga instead: stay in the world, act selflessly, surrender the fruits. But I don't know if that's clarity or the mind negotiating terms to stay comfortable

For anyone who's lived inside this question: did clarity come before you chose or only after you'd lived the choice for a while? How did you decide?

Self control is just an ego battle where you grit your teeth to suppress an urge; the desire is still there, and you are using brute willpower to cage the animal. Awareness is stepping out of the boxing ring entirely to watch the match from the stands. It is the difference between wrestling a thief in a dark room versus simply turning on a bright flashlight—the moment the light hits him, he runs. When you observe a toxic urge like a silent witness, you aren't fighting it; you are shining a light on it, and its momentum naturally collapses.

On our spiritual journey, we often deconstruct what we once believed—society, self, family, physical universe—and call them illusions. But this is consciousness discovering how it constructs reality. For consciousness to create something, it must forget it made it—like a self-hypnosis. Without that forgetting, consciousness would see through it instantly. So when you uncover these constructions, don’t be disappointed as if someone fooled you into believing an illusion against your will. Well someone did. And it was you. This is how YOU created reality in the first place.
The fooling is part of the design. This isn’t about your personal self—it’s consciousness playing its creative game. Appreciate how it forms reality, even through fooling and forgetting.

Your daily life brings up all kinds of energies and identities in you, of the kind you could never in a million years bring it up yourself on your meditation cushion. These are the ones that haven't been let go of. And in that sense life is the MAIN spiritual practice. Formal spiritual practice like meditation or self inquiry is a great starting point. But ultimately you gonna have to engage in the main spiritual practice, which is your life itself.

You are Already Awake yet dreaming. Awakened are the ones who know that no one needs awakening and all those who claim awakening and waiting to awaken are veiled from the Self that they already are.

Spiritual Journey isn't a journey inwards nor outwards. Infact no one was ever born, nor needed awakening. The Enlightened as well as the one unenlightened is the same Self playing as you, me, space and time. When you realize that you are the Self there is no one left to claim awakening, and until you realize the Self, you are asleep - yet you are still the Self.

At no point in space nor time were you not the Self nor anything that you can sense was separate from this Self that you already are.

The Seeker was always seeking the Self. They are inseparable - veiled or dreaming the separation that there is a writer of this post and a reader and a screen.

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