r/rpg_gamers

Gosto muito do sistema de proficiência em jogos de rpg, um dos meus favoritos é Final Fantasy 2, onde as habilidades melhoram conforme você as usa:

Usar espadas, aumenta dano, chance de acerto e quantidade de golpes;

Usar uma magia varias vezes, faz com que ela fique mais forte e mude visualmente;

Receber danos aumenta vida, resistencia ao tipo de dano.

Sei que Elder Scrolls usa esse sistema. Mais alguma serie de jogos que vocês recomendam?

So I've finally finish the "big three" of the modern CRPGs: Baldurs Gate 3, Pathfinder: Wrath of The Righteous and Divinity Original Sin 2. All three are fantastic but I wanted to share my thoughts on where the three shine the best in comparison with one another.

Pathfinder WoTR: Best lore, power fantasy and really makes you feel the stakes of the campaign. The roleplay options are absolutely incredible. I played as a Angel Crusader and a Dragon Blood Shifter True Aeon. No spoilers but the Aeon scene made me shout for joy!!!! (You guys know what I'm talking about). Truly the lore of the Pathfinder universe is so enchanting. The creation of the universe, the different gods, the distinction between the Abyss and Hell, all of it is so interesting. The first act of the game is one of the best acts ive played in all gaming - this game is actually incredible the more i think about it. Overall solid game and Regill is the best companion out of all 3 games, absolutely brilliantly written character.

--- Weaknesses: Pacing fell off for me around the abyss section, I felt like they rushed the last acts. The Deskari final fight was extremely anti climactic and the overall reason for the world wound being created was a let down for me. Crusade mode was better than Kingmakers kingdom management, but it did get in the way of the story for me. Combat is way too buff heavy, so I played on Daring and below because I couldn't be bothered to keep buffing. Though enduring spells did help.

Baldurs Gate 3: Best combat and most accessible of the three. It's a really solid game and the one I've played the most. It's very comfortable and the diversity of build options is where this game truly shines. I've had many playthroughs but I completed the game as a Half Elf Durge Moon Druid romancing Shadow Heart, a Light Cleric/Star Druid romancing Karlach, and a Sword Bard Gith who romanced Laezel. Shout out the Dark Urge, truly the best way to experience the game. Astarians scene post Cazador fight was the most emotionally charged scene out of all 3 games and actually moved me.

--- Weaknesses: Rushed final act. Main story was the weakest of the three but I appreciate how they accommodated player choice! I felt like the main story took a back seat to each acts story. I wish they would have given us more on the tadpole and mindflayers. Perhaps have us see more NPCs randomly transform in fights pre act 3 and/or see some more hostile mind flayers in game. Act 3 had an awesome moment where you entered a mill and a farmer had recently changed into a rabid mindflayer; the game needed more of that. Also, it's a crime that Zevlor wasn't made a companion but Halsin was. I think I'm in a minority that too much emphasis was put on sex/romance at the cost of some possibilities. Overall, the way the lore was presented in this game was the weakest of the three.

Divinity Original Sin 2: Best overall writing and story. Absolutely incredible story. The main story was absolutely fantastic, from start to finish, the writing (IMO) was the tightest and most consistent of the three. I didnt feel a drop off in quality as the game went on, and the lore reveals were excellently done, and had me at the edge of my seat. Combat took some time to get used to but once you get going its actually very enjoyable. When I play I can feel the BG3 DNA in it. The voice acting in this game is so good. I played as Ifan and I'm currently going through it again as Fane.

--- Weaknesses: Buying spell books to get new skills is absolutely stupid and is so annoying loool. Apart from that, I haven't got much to say. The game is near perfect for me. Not sure I'm entirely positive about the armour/magic armour system, since the game gets CC reliant but I'm sure you guys have your thoughts on that.

Overall, all three are great and if you haven't played it, give it a shot. What do you guys think?

This game looks amazing. How is it? I really like the aesthetic and the surreal vibe from some clips I’ve seen of it.

Never played anything like it. I’ve seen comparisons to Morrowind which I haven’t played.

I’ve heard the gameplay isn’t great, which I don’t mind. I love some games despite bad or repetitive gameplay, as long as the strengths outweigh it.

Speaking of strengths I’ve see lots of praise for the exploration. Is it that good? Exploring is my favorite part of my favorite RPGs, that or the writing.

Edit: bought it. Having a great time. Combat is as I expected but at least it’s easy so far.

I played Bg3 first then played Dos 2 now going through dos 1 what other games are there with larians crpg style or other games that I would like ?

Recommend mostly crpgs I've already played kcd and the witcher

And also I just dont really like dragon age I will play them when they get a remake origins is just outdated its like playing witcher 1

I love some RPGs, but I tend to give up on the popular ones 😭.

Probably cause of my ADHD, I feel like most RPGs are just trying to waste my time with all the running around and incosistent quality of side quests and dialogue 😂. The highs might be really high, but because of the lows, I tend to drop them (even if I'm 100+ hours in).

I love good side quests, but I'm really easily put off by generic quests that feel unimportant.

To give you examples of games I liked/disliked:

I liked the witcher + the witcher 2, but I don't enjoy the witcher 3 at all.

I think KCD (both 1 and 2) are great games, I especially like the early combat in those - but I hated the incosistent quality of side quests and all the running around.

RPGs I enjoyed & completed: BG3, Divinity 2, witcher+witcher 2, Disco Elysium -- also souls-likes and fps rpgs, but I won't list those here.

Because of these reasons, I prefer linear storytelling, instead of open-world type stuff. Only because they tend to have less bloat

I don't care about graphics or how detailed the world is. I just want an RPG that's engaging to play throughout, with a gripping story🤔. The lows are probably more important to me than the highs. I hope that makes sense.

Do you have any recommendations?

It’s one of the biggest see-saws for me when turn based RPGs are in question. But let me tell you what I mean by turn based “traditional”

Baldur’s Gate 3 exemplifies this best. Party on one side, enemies on the other - all the weight is in builds, resource management, turn order, party synergy, and knowing when to burn the good spells instead of hoarding those spell uses like it’s gold. It’s what I love but also something I end up hating on so much in Pathfinder, particularly on harder settings where I have to pop 20+ pots and scrolls before engaging anything, not even mentioning the DLCs… But there’s a familiarity to it and it’s by far the easiest way to control your party. Safe to say, this is my favorite turn based “pacing”

It’s easier for me than RTwP - I only vibed with it in Dragon Age Origins and I kind of started liking it in Pillars of Eternity after I learned to play. It’s bulkier, more stuff going on and if you aren’t good, it can be unclear whose “turn” it is and if you’ve accidentally missed a good move. In general, I like RTwP but … haha, I just don’t have the skill for it to play optimally, ergo this would be my least favorite. Not the games that have it but the system

Tactical RPGs meanwhile always feel like puzzles to solve, more meticulous, less flashy usually and spacing and heigh advantage and all those micro details, terrain… all of it matters so there’s more strategy. Battle Brothers makes spacing, injuries, weapon reach, morale, and formation feel all so brutally important. Tactical Breach Wizards is the most puzzle like of all, where the fun is in finding the cleanest way to resolve a fight. I also tried some newer ones. Happy Bastards is one I’ve been watching because of the mid-fight party switching, which sounds like the kind of thing that could make party composition feel less locked-in and more reactive in battle. And indeed, the idea that you have a “roster” is pretty much something stemming from these games. Feels more like leading a whole troop instead of a classic RPG team, and that’s what makes them so interesting, straddling that line between RPG and strategy… 

So purely gameplay-wise, I think tactical RPGs have the higher ceiling for me, because movement and spae add another layer of decisions that traditional turn-based combat usually has to replace with deeper systems elsewhere. 

But!... I also think tactical games can become exhausting faster. A simple fight in a traditional RPG can be satisfying in two minutes. A simple fight in a tactical RPG sometimes still last half an hour or more. If you played Battle Brothers against the undead invasion superevent, you know what I’m talking about.

Do you prefer the cleaner party vs party style or the grid positioning and “heavy” tactical gameplay or smthing in between?

How is this game so niche? There's literally not even a subreddit on it.

Dread Delusion is an artistically gorgeous, PS1-vibes beauty of a game with a completely alien world, a lot of different cultures and REAL moral complications. Not "big bad" vs "morally grey but eventually good" (except the ending, which is clearly more black-and-white but I won't spoiler more).

The gameplay is barebones: you've got stats, swords, bows and magic spells, like the Elder Scrolls games. It is often compared to Morrowind for the amazing sense of exploration and wacky, intriguing lore, although it's mechanically far simpler.

But the characters, the dialogues, the journey, the sights, the morality of the various cultures and factions... They rock.

I'm here to recommend it to anyone who's been wanting to scratch that old-school, atmospheric, first person RPG itch.

Weird thing that got me writing this, but hear me out on this. I love ranged builds as a concept but never played them in any Fromsoft game ever, but I felt that pull of Dark Souls again and I wanted to be something other than the rapier abusing knight-duelist that somehow I always end up as in the game (or the katana enjoyer, yes I’m that guy)

And it’s great, frustratingly great but - great, is one word to describe it. Really forces you to keep your distance more than you usually would, and the contour of the game just feels different, more gimmicky but I disagree with people who say that there was little thought given to ranged weapons. The playing field is just so much more asymmetrical. It’s also not as good as just using magic, but it’s viable, and it has flavor, it also feel surprisingly good when you mix in a bit of melee and weapons switch all the time.

This got me thinking, what are the best games all round for being an archer/ranger type, both from the perspective of roleplay but also judging on how fun they are to play. Whether they’re overpowered, underpowered or neither, I’m not taking about how meta optimal they are. 

For example, in ARPGs they tend to be bonkers (crossbow builds in Path of Exile or the Falconer in Last Epoch that absolutely shreds waves of mobs) or in some games you’re meant to synergize ranged and melee like in Van Hellsing. And from what I could tell, that newly announced arpg, The Dark West, even has an interface slot for ammo so I can only assume ranged gunslinging will pay a major factor in the class building. At least I hope so, I feel that too few of these games make ranged builds feel interesting, which is weird because Bowazon in Diablo was among my favorites, one of rare ranged builds I thoroughly enjoyed playing.

Then you have CRPGs and tactical games, where they’re so satisfying purely because of the tactical utility they give you as backliners (especially tactical games where height advantage and such is really key to winning a lot of battles).

And of course the soulslike action variety where ranged has always been (seen) more of a utility thing than something most players will base their playstyles around, especially with so many flashier options to choose from.

What’s your horse in this race? I myself didn’t care for ranged gameplay that much but I’ve begun making it a point to try exploring other playstyles other than the barbarian/warrior and occasionally classic mage types I usually go for.

Not necessarily the ‘best’ role-playing game ever created, but the one that truly marked a turning point for the genre when it was released.

For me, it was probably Baldur’s Gate II: Shadows of Amn.

At the time, it struck me as massive in every sense: the narrative, the interactions with companions, the quest design, the world-building, the freedom, the atmosphere... It really felt as though role-playing games had suddenly evolved into something far more immersive and ambitious. I think much of the design of modern role-playing games is still influenced by it today.

Hey, I'm looking for actual games playable on my iPad (yeah the horror I know. But I wanna lay in bed while gaming sometimes). What do I mean by „actual"? No micro transaction BS, no waiting times, an actual finished and polished game like on PC. And yes, I am willing to pay for the actual game like l'd buy any pc game.

Games I've played and loved for iOS:

KOTOR I&ll (this is exactly the kind of game I'm looking for. I couldn't believe when these came out for iOS! One of my childhood favs <3)

Final fantasy (literally every version they released for iOS but IX has always been my favourite. But not 100% what I'm looking for)

Some Lego games (tho they are less like what I'm looking for currently. Still, Lego Star Wars is to date their best)

And I just realised that those are the remakes for games I used to play back in the day. XD

in general, I like fantasy RPGs and stealth games. I spent countless hours on the likes of Gothic, Elder scrolls and Assassin's Creed games as well as Styx, Hogwarts Legacy and so on just as highlights (and omg I just remembered vampire dawn I&ll. Those were great! God I'm old)

Can you recommend me other games in that vein of thought that are available on iOS to play on an iPad (which is old as dirt btw)?

Kind of similar to the scene in knights of the old republic 1 where the gang is imprisoned and asked/tortured for information, and then there’s a big prison break. Doesn’t necessarily have to be like that just using that as an example for yall to go off of.