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Line-up featuring: Ciara, T-Pain, and Erykah Badu

The 1988 Line-up is:

Terence Trent D'Arby, Pebbles, Rick James, and Miki Howard

Line-up featuring:

Jill Scott, Coco Jones, Doechii, Lil Yachty, and Chance the Rapper

Did you like these characters? Did you like the representation? Did you feel like any of them was YOU? Did you feel like you were finally seeing yourself on screen?

The characters:

Dwayne Wayne (A Different World)

Jett Jackson (The Famous Jett Jackson)

Kyle Barker (Living Single)

T.J. Henderson (Smart Guy)

Carlton Banks (Fresh Prince of Bel-Air)

Randall Pearson (This Is Us)

Chidi Anagonye (The Good Place)

Did these particular TV characters feel like a good representation? Did you feel like they were realistic? Did you feel like any of these characters were YOU? Did you feel like you finally saw yourself on TV for the first time?

The characters featured:

Denise Huxtable (The Cosby Show)

Lynn Searcy (Girlfriends)

Mona Thorne (Half and Half)

Spirit Jones (One on One)

Winifred 'Freddie' Brooks (A Different World)

Synclaire James (Living Single)

Have you read her memoir? What did you think?

Have you read her memoir? What did you think?

There may be spoilers!!!!

Let's talk about The Polygamists. It's a South African show on Netflix that is gaining quite an audience.

It is a far more layered show than you would think if you just start watching it.

Family dynamics, economics, misogyny, women's autonomy, patriarchy, financial abuse, etc.

The main theme I keep coming back to is women's autonomy. What do you all think about that as you watch the show? Why don't the women see that they have more power than they do? Or maybe they don't? Let's discuss.

I have talked about ending this sub for a few weeks now. I have received the most interesting/odd responses since then. I posted a few more posts, and they received engagement. Apparently, many people didn't know this sub existed until I shared my last couple of posts. So, they have been sending me messages. I have to share this important FINAL, FINAL message. This is what I didn't expect as this sub comes to a close. I am going to give you all THE REAL TEA!

The sub will close out officially at midnight on Saturday, and all posts will be removed.

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Interesting notes:

******I was recently told by someone after looking at my posts...the attention on my posts would be better if I posted in a Pro-Black sub. Haha. The irony in that is so funny to me. It's so funny to me that this person GOT IT...but didn't get it at the same time. I AM BLACK posting in a sub I created about a BLACK FAMILY...yet...because they are so used to Reddit being antagonizing toward Black people, it is assumed my content isn't meant to be Pro-Black. This sub was ALWAYS Pro-Black. For those who don't understand what that means -it doesn't mean Anti-White for one.

Definition of Pro-Black: intentional mindset and movement centered on the celebration, empowerment, and advancement of Black people. It focuses on building social, political, and economic power while fostering self-determination, community growth, and cultural pride.

Special note: Also, if you ever come across someone named JaneDi in any Michael subs...be careful. This person DOES NOT LIKE BLACK PEOPLE! They are an obsessive Michael fan who goes on and on with lies and nonsense.

People are free to do whatever they want, but if you are a fan of Michael or the whole family and are a Black American - I WILL tell you what subs NOT to join: MichaelTheMovie, MichaelJacksonExposed, MichaeJacksonTruther, and LovingMichaelJackson. There are probably the same moderators for all of these. These are the main subs that HATE Black people, hate his siblings, and are obsessive. They DO NOT CARE about facts.

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I wish I could explain to you all how much hate I received because I created this sub. This sub was always meant to be a Black American perspective of this Black American Musical Family. Yes, I'm Pro-Black and I exist on Reddit. I didn't know that was supposed to be taboo. I received a lot of hate from non-Black Michael fans. They hate the family. They hate how I talk about him because I don't stan over him. They hate how I questioned some of his decisions over the years - the same way I questioned the decisions of ALL of his siblings.

I was supposed to do what all the other subs do - talk trash about his siblings, and he was supposed to be hands off.

I was NEVER going to do that. That wouldn't be realistic or fair. I have been SO TIRED of all the other subs painting the narrative that ALL the other Jacksons are/were problematic, but Michael was the saint. They never tell all the REAL stories that show that ALL of the Jacksons had issues. They were HUMAN.

Yet, somehow Michael gets to be HUMAN with his flaws, but the others were EVIL. The other subs keep that narrative going, and people believe it. If you try to follow it up with facts to prove this is NOT the situation, they harass you and block you.

They are NOT fair and balanced in the other subs with their Jackson content. They are NOT fair and balanced when they discuss Michael's siblings. They portray them all as the worst people on Earth. They have an excuse for everything crazy Michael ever did - but never give that grace to any of his siblings. They always give the same damn old excuse - Joe abused him.

How long was Michael supposed to use Joe as his excuse for his poor decisions into his 30s and 40s?! Also....as far as I know of Joe using his belt and the spankings...he did that to his other kids too...so I don't want to hear about it anyway! I was spanked, and my parents used a belt on me too. MANY kids were spanked, or their parents whipped them with belts or tree branches growing up. If that alone made Joe evil...then almost every damn parent pre-1985 was evil! I don't want to hear about it anymore. NOW...if there is proof that more than that was going on (like what LaToya suggested...then we can talk...otherwise I AM TIRED of hearing about Joe!) YES...I SAID IT!

I was harassed and threatened for simply wanting to tell THE TRUTH. They want to fantasize and idolize Michael and treat the rest of the family as evil villains. Certain White and Asian non-American Michael fans wanted me to villainize this Black family to make them feel better about their own hate. They wanted me to do that IN MY SUB!

I want you all to go with me for just a moment - how do you think that made me feel?

I have 20-somethings that are non-Black Michael fans calling me all kinds of derogatory names, AND they are calling his BLACK siblings derogatory names, and I am supposed to just take it! Really? Do you all think that's fair or right?

I am supposed to allow that kind of behavior....just because you stan Michael. When you start calling ME and his BLACK siblings derogatory names then it isn't really even about Michael anymore. They have deeper issues. Yet they tried to act like I'm the problem! Many of them ADMITTED they don't even like Black Americans, nor do they like Black music artists, but they liked Michael.

I don't know WHAT they thought Michael was if they hate everybody BLACK! Yet, they called ME the racist. Haha.

That's where his kids come in. Michael is OK to those fans because of what his kids are. I saw right through that when those kids were little! I knew what time it was. I knew this is what many Black Americans were going to have to deal with in the future. I remember thinking when they were little: Black Americans are going to have to fight non-Black Americans over Michael because of these kids that have no Jackson DNA. The non-Black fans will WIN because the white fans will defend and look out for those kids no matter what (because those kids are one of them!). They know it! Michael will now forever have proximity to whiteness through his non-Black kids and yet people swear Michael was Pro-Black! These particular fans would NEVER do that for actual Black kids. They would NEVER fight for actual Black kids even if they belonged to Michael. If Michael had a Black wife and Black biological or adopted kids -that would have NEVER happened. Those kids would be treated the same way as the other 2nd generation kids in the family. The only ones who would care about them would be the Black Americans.

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Non-Black Michael fans go gaga over those kids that aren't Black. Yet, the actual BLACK Jacksons have to fight for their lives on social media over racist BS every day created BY certain Michael fans. The irony still blows my mind.

How the hell did we get here?

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I often wonder if Michael actually had Black children, if they would go to bat for him the way they do. They care more about his non-biological kids that are NOT Black than they would have ever cared for any of the actual Black people he was related to who went through just as much racism, hate, and abuse as he did. Yet, they don't care about ANY of that! So, it tells me all I need to know.

It's NEVER been about feeling bad for this Black family and the HATE they had to endure in the 1960s, 1970s, and even into the 1980s. They HATE when I mention that the other siblings went through stuff too. They don't want to hear anything about it. Apparently only 1 person in this HUGE family was allowed to have trauma. I call out their BS, and they hate me. I don't care!

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Online in the Michael or Jackson subs - These are mostly 20-year-olds in European and Asian countries trying to explain Michael or Joe or Jeramine to me. A person old enough to be their parent. They share the same lies and misinformation with each other. They forget there are people online who are older than all of them. They forget some people knew of Michael and the Jacksons long before they were born. They forget some of us have knowledge that predates Google - and you can't even find everything on Google. Sorry...AI doesn't know everything!

I keep telling these people the same thing over and over. I am not even asking them to believe ME - I am just asking them to stop using Google for everything and stop going to biased fansties for all their information. The biased sites worship Michael and only tell all the bad things about his family members. They are not balanced AT ALL. There is zero objectivity. You don't get both sides of the story...you just get the version where Michael is the saint and everyone else is evil. The same story every day! Yet, when it comes to Michael, they expect you to be fair and balanced when talking about him. It NEVER works both ways when it comes to his parents or his siblings, and no one but me ever calls the hypocrisy out!

None of the siblings are ever allowed to speak up in their own defense or explain anything about themselves. I have literally seen in some Michael subs where Janet or Jermaine literally had a quote of something they said....and fans in that Michael sub will come up with their OWN version of what Janet or Jermaine said. They won't LISTEN to the words that Janet or Jermaine said for themselves. No...they can't because they don't actually CARE what they have to say about ANYTHING - they need them to be villains! They can't sympathize with the villains! See how crazy that is!

It's exhausting. Even though that's not why I'm ending the sub...I can't say I am not happy to NOT deal with the delusional stans anymore.

Good luck to the rest of you!

For those who watched Queen Sugar, why do you think it's not in conversation when it comes to one of the great Black TV dramas?

The show started in 2016. It had 7 seasons. The audience watched the Bordelon family endure so much heartache, tragedy, but also love in those 7 seasons. The show was a look at generational secrets, Louisiana history, Black US history, ownership, social structures, and economics. The culmination of that show made me cry. I hadn't cried at the end of a show since The Cosby Show. It was a beautiful ending to a beautiful journey with this family.

I thought it was an amazing show, but I also know it was on the OWN Network (Oprah's network), so I think alot of people didn't know about the show, didn't have access to it, or they were boycotting Oprah so they didn't watch OWN.

Some people were asking for a Season 2. They got it!

They both played their version of Joe Jackson in a film this year. Who played Joe Jackson best? That part was me joking...

Eddie's son Eric married Martin's daughter Jasmine back in 2025. They welcomed their first child - their daughter Ari Syke in April. Eddie and Martin have enjoyed spending time with their granddaughter since her birth.

Nivea recently revealed her diagnosis and has been undergoing treatment for several months.

Book blurb:

Black Buck by Mateo Askaripour is a satirical debut novel about Darren, a young Black man who gets recruited from his Starbucks job into a high-pressure, all-white tech startup, where he reinvents himself as "Buck" to succeed in a toxic, racist environment. The book skewers startup culture and capitalism, exploring themes of ambition, race, and identity as Darren navigates the challenges of being the "token Black guy" and eventually plots to help other people of color infiltrate the sales force.

Which actor played the hell out of their part and helped make the movie for you? You can only pick 1!

Let's get the conversation going.