Elseworld Concept Pitch-Wonder Woman and the Creature Commandos

I found an omnibus of the original run of Creature Commandos from the 1980s and while reading it, had a lightbulb moment as to how to do something different with the idea of a monster squad in WW2

still all in the air but basically Wonder Woman is asked by the allies to use her knowledge and training of magic and the world of gods and monsters to lead the Creature Commandos with Steve Trevor and Sgt Rock against Paula Von Gunther and her army of nazi monster men.

i dunno just something to try different with Wonder Woman since they always give Batman all the cool ideas.

if people react positively I might pick at it more

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u/Chumlee1917 — 9 hours ago

Could this work as a variation of Zod?

Was talking to someone and they brought up Zod and doing a version of him inspired by the tragedy of Macbeth. And while I was thinking and chewing it over, I started thinking about using Shakespeare's Coriolanus as an idea for a different version of Zod to change things up from the usual. And this will require a very brief summary of Coriolanus

The short short version-Coriolanus is a Roman general who beats an enemy of Rome (very early Roman republic days) and his allies and friends tell him to run for consul, where it blows up in his face and makes him and the people of Rome hate each other, so they banish him and Coriolanus out of spite goes to the very enemy of Rome he just defeated and together they start beating up on Rome. Until Rome gets Coriolanus' family, namely his wife and son to agree to peace in exchange for being allowed to go home. So Coriolanus does....and then his allies kill him for betraying them.

So the Zod version would be, He was a great general of Krypton who fought many battles and wars for the Empire, then (still fuzzy here) something happens that makes him declared an enemy of Krypton and he and his family and most loyal followers are banished to the Phantom Zone. Then something happens where he and his followers manage to escape the Phantom zone following Krypton's destruction and ending up on Earth, but because there are still many remnants of Krypton and Kryptonian connected entities like Brianiac, Zod declares Krypton his enemy for what they did to him and earth now has his allegiance. Still super fuzzy as to how exactly he would view Clark/Kara in all this and whether or not this would still have Zod be a villain....or more like a lawful evil who will defend his new home, but he ain't exactly buddy buddy with Superman and seeing eye to eye on everything but he will defend Earth to the last with Superman when like Darkseid invades

u/Chumlee1917 — 1 day ago

The problem with Ares...and how I would try it and do it

This all started from this weekend reading Greg Rucka's Year One. And something was bothering me because the rest of the comic I would give anywhere from an 8-9/10............except for Ares who I found to be the weakest part. And then it got me thinking that Ares for me has been one of those Wonder Woman villains who gets boiled down to again and again, big guy in a tin suit with horns and well....I just don't think that's how he should be.

Now by all means if you know a writer/arc that does it better, please tell me. But to continue

I think, if I was doing it, Ares should be more "abstract" as in, yes there is Ares the God of War, but like how the 2017 movie did it....till it dropped the ball, in that Ares doesn't do anything directly, but he's a presence, the little devil on the shoulder whispering in people's ears feeding their anger, their hatreds, all he does is suggest and encourage people to do the worst option, but, and this would have to tie into how the other gods of Olympus are written, he's not directly showing up with a spear and magic helmet to smash up the place. And when he does show up, in disguise, would be like Nic Cage's character in The Lord of War offering gifts of great and terrible weapons to those eager to use his services. Or he finds and creates metahuman villains for Diana to deal with while he can turn to Olympus and act like his hands are clean.

So then, when Diana shows up and confronts him the first time, see a scene of him and Diana standing in like Rome or Sparta, and he goes, "I may be the God of War, but these humans, they do it all themselves even when I do nothing because it is the nature of man to be stupid and violent." And then when Diana foolishly tries to fight him, he easily swats her aside and lays a beat down and tells her flat out, "Tell me Amazon, why am I the villain of your tale when the Amazons are my creation and you time and time again pray to a Goddess of War for aid, that is her sword you carry after all. You were created as a weapon of war by the goddesses of Olympus to be controlled by them. You were trained your whole life to kill and slay man, what does that really say about you, hmmm?"

And then the rest of her arc with and several fights with Ares would be more Diana coming to terms that yes she was created to be a warrior, but also a servant of peace and a philosophical battle of wills over the nature of war and violence and peace, and eventually Ares playing himself into creating his own destruction at Diana's hands thanks in part to Olympus sick of Ares and wanting him punished...but as he falls, he mocks her saying, "So begins a new God of War"

which then leads to the final phase of this character journey for Diana that would be Goddess of War Diana on her journey to transform into the Goddess of Peace....and all the while there's ghost Ares (real or in her mind) taunting her the whole time until Diana beats him one last time by choosing the olive branch over the sword and leaving Ares behind in darkness.

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u/Chumlee1917 — 2 days ago
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I'm sure this question gets asked a bajillion time but, where's a good place to start with Thor?

So I know and am planning on getting the Penguin Classic Marvel Thor omnibus that is coming out in November of this year.

But I'm curious as to what you all would recommend as the Must Read Thor authors/runs (and if there are any do not read Thor Arcs) and I'm open to 1960s-2020s. And is there anything to know beforehand when picking up Thor?

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u/Chumlee1917 — 4 days ago

Random late night thought, do you think with some mild tweaking, Rose & Thorn could work as a Wonder Woman story?

Notice, I didn't say villain, I said story. As in this is a very small, self contained, personal stakes only story.
Using the Caped Crusader version as the starting point of Rose being the victim of a very violent crime causing Thorn to come out of her broken psyche to help her get her revenge against the mob that destroyed her and Diana wants to help Rose heal from her trauma but Rose and even more so Thorn are too bent on revenge to let go and so Diana has to get unconventional to save Rose from herself because she, Diana, sees Rose's vengeance and goes.....what you are doing is wrong....but I get it because she has pity and sees Rose as the victim.

u/Chumlee1917 — 8 days ago

Who else to read besides Jed MacKay and Stan Lee?

I know this question gets asked too much about where to start with Doctor Strange comics, so I am aware that Jed MacKay's run is a good place to start and I intend to. But I'm curious what other arcs to read after him. What are considered the "Must Read Doctor Strange" stand alone arcs that cover Stan Lee to the 2020s to get the best gist of Doctor Strange.

and are there any arcs/writers that you would put in the "Avoid this like the plague"

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u/Chumlee1917 — 8 days ago

What is the Iliad but Homer writing down someone's Yaoi fanfiction about Achilles and Patroclus

u/Chumlee1917 — 13 days ago
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Fair Game Friday

Side note-Currently listening to the Odyssey (Robert Fagles translation) read by Sir Ian McKellen, goddamn what a masterpiece

u/Chumlee1917 — 13 days ago

*Cranks up the Anvil of Crom theme to 11*

The screwy thing is I just finished reading Marvel's Conan Chronicles Volume 1 by Kurt Busiek when all of this dropped. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

u/Chumlee1917 — 14 days ago

Realistically after First Bull Run, who could have Lincoln picked besides McClellan to fix the broken army?

Key word is realistically so no Grant or Sherman because they weren't ready yet. Both of them had to go through nearly 3 years of war to finally be ready to be the war winners.

The South it seemed got all the old senior officers of the old army besides Scott, was there anyone in the North in 1861 who could have organized and trained the Army of the Potomac and then properly use it against Virginia?

Because that has always been the headscratcher about 1861 to 1862, Lincoln picks the very overrated McClellan who comes in and develops an ego so swollen it could be seen from space and yet squandered months on end refusing to fight and burning up any goodwill he had with Congress and the White House, and even when Lincoln finally forced his hand, squandered both times he was in command and got thousands of men needlessly killed because he refused accept the fact that war requires men dying and going on the offense.

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u/Chumlee1917 — 17 days ago

Batman Caped Crusader gave me an idea for Zara of the Crimson Flame

Basically the gist would start with Zara and the Crimson Flame being a massive con to rob people of their wealth like her Golden Age version, but then something happens when Wonder Woman stops her that causes her to go coo coo bananas because she has a vision of a fire demon/diety (work in progress) who commands Zara to find them so then Zara escapes Wonder Woman and goes on a quest to find said fire magic source and throws herself into it and out comes new Zara who now has magic fire powers and wants to burn the world down in the name of her new fire demon to "purify" it. Really play up the idea that Wonder Woman serves the Goddesses of the Greek Pantheon but there are other gods out there making their own super beings to serve their purposes in the long running feud all these pantheons have over who gets to be top dog of planet earth
Including a pic from Caped Crusader to show where the inspiration came from

u/Chumlee1917 — 17 days ago
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Alright, I'm hooked, recommend more Scott Snyder Batman arcs to read

I finally bought the first two volumes of Absolute Batman and am hooked. And I know Scott Snyder has written a ton of Batman over the last while so, what do you all recommend?

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u/Chumlee1917 — 29 days ago

Hear me out for a location for Absolute Wonder Woman to go to in the future, Skartaris from DC's Warlord comics

Basically I think Sword and Sorcery would be a great place for Absolute Wonder Woman to make her own mark beyond what we already have since both AB and AS are still in the sci fi horror so why not let Wonder Woman have a chance with Fantasy horror and so an arc that has her end up in Absolute Skartaris that is basically Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal and Robert E. Howard's Conan the Barbarian, a world of magic and monsters that's inbetween worlds. Still hashing out the details but basically, a little something something to push Absolute Wonder Woman a bit more in tone to the other two. IE like here Absolute Mouseman is a giant mutant ratking monster who rules a horde of cannibal monster rats. Or like Paula Von Gunther and her people got trapped here and now we have barbarian nazis who ride sabertooth lions. I dunno, but you see the vision right?

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u/Chumlee1917 — 1 month ago

Hear me out for a location for Absolute Wonder Woman to go to in the future, Skartaris from DC's Warlord comics

Basically I think Sword and Sorcery would be a great place for Absolute Wonder Woman to make her own mark beyond what we already have since both AB and AS are still in the sci fi horror so why not let Wonder Woman have a chance with Fantasy horror and so an arc that has her end up in Absolute Skartaris that is basically Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal and Robert E. Howard's Conan the Barbarian, a world of magic and monsters that's inbetween worlds. Still hashing out the details but basically, a little something something to push Absolute Wonder Woman a bit more in tone to the other two. IE like here Absolute Mouseman is a giant mutant ratking monster who rules a horde of cannibal monster rats. Or like Paula Von Gunther and her people got trapped here and now we have barbarian nazis who ride sabertooth lions. I dunno, but you see the vision right?

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u/Chumlee1917 — 1 month ago