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(DESK) getting deleted posts back up

Both this account u/ExoticWalk2 and u/DirectionCute7530 were reinstated pretty quickly

if possible, could you undelete my posts and comments on both accounts?

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u/ExoticWalk2 — 7 hours ago

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What is my CQS

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u/ExoticWalk2 — 8 hours ago

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What Visited Muhammad Left Him Terrified and Suicidal (First Revelation)

In a sahih (authentic) hadith, an "angel" seized Muhammad in a cave and crushed him three times until he "could not bear it anymore." He went home "twitching with terror," telling his wife Khadijah to cover him and asking her, "O Khadija, what is wrong with me?"

This is the first revelation of the Quran.

Then he tried "several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains" until the "angel" came back.

From a credible Hadith (Sahih Bukhari 6982):

>"(The Prophet (ﷺ) added), "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, "I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?)." Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said, "Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous…up to….. ..that which he knew not." (96.15) Then Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) returned with the Inspiration, his neck muscles twitching with terror till he entered upon Khadija and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and then he said, "O Khadija, what is wrong with me?"

>”the Prophet (ﷺ) became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Gabriel would appear before him and say, "O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) in truth" whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to become long, he would do as before"
Sahih Bukhari 6982

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources):
https://islamsproblems.com/muhammad-first-revelation-terror/

u/ExoticWalk2 — 2 days ago

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The Precedent of October 7th in Authentic Hadiths

"Khaybar, Khaybar, ya yahud! Jaish Muhammad soufa yaʿoud!" is a chant used by HAMAS to taunt Jews meaning "Khaybar, Khaybar, oh Jews! The army of Muhammad will return!"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khaybar_Khaybar_ya_yahud

Here's Jewish woman Safiya's story in Khaybar according to authentic hadiths and Muhammad's earliest biography (everything cited and quoted verbatim):

Muhammad killed Safiya's father and people, tortured her husband Kinana for treasure by placing fire on Kinana's chest until he was nearly dead, then beheaded him. Then he took Safiya because she looked pretty, and had sex with her in a tent on the 3 day journey back from Khaibar to Medina as a companion circled the tent with a sword because he "was afraid for you [Muhammad] with this woman [Safiya] for you have killed her father, her husband, and her people." (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, p. 517)

>"Khaibar is destroyed...The Prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and women taken as captives. Safiya was among the captives. She first came in the share of Dihya Al-Kalbi, but later she belonged to the Prophet."
Sahih Bukhari 4200

>"Kinana al-Rabi [Safiya's husband] who had the custody of the treasure of Banu Nadir, was brought to the apostle ... the apostle gave orders 'Torture him until you extract what he has.' So he kindled a fire on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama and he struck off his head."
Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, p. 515

>"The beauty of Safiya bint Huyai whose husband had been killed while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself."
Sahih Bukhari 4211

>"The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way from Khaibar, where he consummated his marriage with her."
Sahih Bukhari 4212

>"The apostle passed the night with her in a tent of his. Abu Ayyub… passed the night girt with his sword, guarding the apostle and going round the tent… 'I was afraid for you with this woman for you have killed her father, her husband, and her people.'"
Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, p. 517

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblems.com/muhammad-safiya-family-killed/

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u/ExoticWalk2 — 2 days ago

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Muhammad killed Safiya's family, tortured and killed her husband Kinana for treasure, then had sex with her in a tent on the road back

Here is her story from Muhammad's earliest biography and authentic hadiths:

>"The beauty of Safiya bint Huyai whose husband had been killed while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself."
Sahih Bukhari 4211

>"The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way from Khaibar, where he consummated his marriage with her."
Sahih Bukhari 4212

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblems.com

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u/ExoticWalk2 — 2 days ago

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Muhammad killed Safiya's family, tortured and killed her husband Kinana for treasure, then had sex with her in a tent on the road back

Here is her story from Muhammad's earliest biography and authentic hadiths:

>"The beauty of Safiya bint Huyai whose husband had been killed while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself."
Sahih Bukhari 4211

>"The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way from Khaibar, where he consummated his marriage with her."
Sahih Bukhari 4212

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblems.com

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u/ExoticWalk2 — 3 days ago

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Muhammad approves Ali having sex with a captive girl taken in war and says he deserves more

In a sahih (authentic) hadith, Ali (Muhammad's cousin, son-in-law, and central figure of Shia Islam) took a captive girl from the war booty and had sex with her. When someone reported this, Muhammad said Ali deserves more.

>"The Prophet (ﷺ) sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (of the booty) and I hated Ali, and Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave-girl from the Khumus). I said to Khalid, "Don't you see this (i.e. Ali)?" When we reached the Prophet (ﷺ) I mentioned that to him. He said, "O Buraida! Do you hate Ali?" I said, "Yes." He said, "Do you hate him, for he deserves more than that from the Khumus."
Sahih Bukhari 4350

I expanded and organized this argument (and others) with linked sources here:
https://islamsproblems.com/ali-captive-girl-war/

u/ExoticWalk2 — 3 days ago

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The Precedent of October 7th in Authentic Hadiths

Here's Jewish woman Safiya's story in Khaybar according to authentic hadiths and Muhammad's earliest biography (everything cited and quoted verbatim):

>"The beauty of Safiya bint Huyai whose husband had been killed while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself."
Sahih Bukhari 4211

>"The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way from Khaibar, where he consummated his marriage with her."
Sahih Bukhari 4212

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblems.com/muhammad-safiya-family-killed/

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u/ExoticWalk2 — 3 days ago

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The Precedent of October 7th in Authentic Hadiths

Here's Jewish woman Safiya's story in Khaybar according to authentic hadiths and Muhammad's earliest biography (everything cited and quoted verbatim):

>"The beauty of Safiya bint Huyai whose husband had been killed while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself."
Sahih Bukhari 4211

>"The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way from Khaibar, where he consummated his marriage with her."
Sahih Bukhari 4212

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblems.com/muhammad-safiya-family-killed/

u/ExoticWalk2 — 4 days ago

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Muhammad killed Safiya's family, tortured and killed her husband Kinana for treasure, then had sex with her in a tent on the road back

Here is her story from Muhammad's earliest biography and authentic hadiths:

>"The beauty of Safiya bint Huyai whose husband had been killed while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself."
Sahih Bukhari 4211

>"The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way from Khaibar, where he consummated his marriage with her."
Sahih Bukhari 4212

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblems.com

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u/ExoticWalk2 — 4 days ago

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Muhammad killed Safiya's family, tortured and killed her husband Kinana for treasure, then had sex with her in a tent on the road back

Here is her story from Muhammad's earliest biography and authentic hadiths:

>"The beauty of Safiya bint Huyai whose husband had been killed while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself."
Sahih Bukhari 4211

>"The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way from Khaibar, where he consummated his marriage with her."
Sahih Bukhari 4212

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblems.com

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u/ExoticWalk2 — 5 days ago

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Ali burns people alive for leaving Islam but Ibn Abbas clarifies Muhammad said to kill them

In a sahih (authentic) hadith, Ali (Muhammad's cousin, son-in-law, and central figure of Shia Islam) burns people alive for leaving Islam but Ibn Abbas clarifies Muhammad said to kill them.

This is consistent with Quran 4:89 which says:

>"But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them"

From a credible hadith (Sahih Bukhari 6922):

>"Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"
Sahih Bukhari 6922

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources):
https://islamsproblems.com/apostates-burned-and-killed/

u/ExoticWalk2 — 5 days ago

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Muhammad killed Safiya's family, tortured and killed her husband Kinana for treasure, then had sex with her in a tent on the road back

Here is her story from Muhammad's earliest biography and authentic hadiths:

>"The beauty of Safiya bint Huyai whose husband had been killed while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself."
Sahih Bukhari 4211

>"The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way from Khaibar, where he consummated his marriage with her."
Sahih Bukhari 4212

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblems.com

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u/ExoticWalk2 — 6 days ago

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Muhammad killed Safiya's family, tortured and killed her husband Kinana for treasure, then had sex with her in a tent on the road back

Here is her story from Muhammad's earliest biography and authentic hadiths:

>"The beauty of Safiya bint Huyai whose husband had been killed while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself."
Sahih Bukhari 4211

>"The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way from Khaibar, where he consummated his marriage with her."
Sahih Bukhari 4212

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblems.com

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u/ExoticWalk2 — 7 days ago

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Muhammad killed Safiya's family, tortured and killed her husband Kinana for treasure, then had sex with her in a tent on the road back

Here is her story from Muhammad's earliest biography and authentic hadiths:

>"The beauty of Safiya bint Huyai whose husband had been killed while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself."
Sahih Bukhari 4211

>"The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way from Khaibar, where he consummated his marriage with her."
Sahih Bukhari 4212

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblems.com

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u/ExoticWalk2 — 9 days ago

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Muhammad killed Safiya's family, tortured and killed her husband Kinana for treasure, then had sex with her in a tent on the road back

Here is her story from Muhammad's earliest biography and authentic hadiths:

>"The beauty of Safiya bint Huyai whose husband had been killed while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself."
Sahih Bukhari 4211

>"The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way from Khaibar, where he consummated his marriage with her."
Sahih Bukhari 4212

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblems.com

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u/ExoticWalk2 — 10 days ago

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Errors in Islamic Embryology

Thesis: Quran's and the hadith's description of embryonic and fetal development has at least three errors.

Error 1
Sahih (authentic) hadiths say women have a "thin and yellow" discharge and that the child resembles whoever discharges first during intercourse.

Here is the error from authentic hadiths:

>"Man's discharge (i.e. sperm) is thick and white and the discharge of woman is thin and yellow"
Sahih Muslim 311

>"If a man has sexual intercourse with his wife and gets discharge first, the child will resemble the father, and if the woman gets discharge first, the child will resemble her."
Sahih Bukhari 3329

>"O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Does a woman get a discharge?" He replied, "Yes... and that is why the son resembles his mother."
Sahih Bukhari 130

Ibn Hajar, the authoritative classical commentator on Sahih Bukhari, systematized the same error in his commentary on Sahih Bukhari 3329:

>1. "The man's fluid precedes and is more in quantity - the child is male and resembles the man.
2. The opposite - the woman's fluid precedes and is more - the child is female and resembles her.
3. The man's fluid precedes, but the woman's fluid is more - the child is male but resembles the woman.
4. The opposite - the woman's fluid precedes, but the man's fluid is more - the child is female but resembles the man.
5. The man's fluid precedes and they are equal - the child is male but without specific resemblance."

Ibn Hajar, Fath al-Bari 7/273

But women have no "thin and yellow" discharge that contributes to the child's resemblance.
And the child's resemblance is based on genetics not who discharges first.

Error 2

Sahih (authentic) hadiths and Ibn Kathir's commentary say you remain a sperm drop in the womb for 40 days:

>"Allah's Messenger as saying: The semen stays in the womb for forty [40] nights."
Sahih Muslim 2645c

>"When the nutfah (drop of semen) settles in the womb, it remains a nutfah (drop of semen) for forty [40] nights."
Al-Mu'jam al-Saghir 16

>"This is because when the nutfah (drop of semen) settles in the womb of the woman, it remains for forty [40] days in that state."
Ibn Kathir commentary

Sahih Bukhari says you are a clot of blood from 40-80 days and a piece of flesh from 80-120 days:

>"and then he becomes a clot of thick blood for a similar period [40-80 days],
and then a piece of flesh for a similar period [80-120 days]"
Sahih Bukhari 3208

Errors:

But by day 40, you aren't just a drop of sperm - you are an embryo with a heartbeat.
Between days 40-80, you aren't a blood clot - you develop fingers and toes.
Between 80-120 days, you aren't a lump of flesh - you develop bones.

Error 3

Quran 23:14 gives the order of embryonic development but says flesh comes after bones.

>"Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump [of flesh], and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We covered the bones with flesh; then We developed him into another creation. So blessed is Allāh, the best of creators."
Quran 23:14

But muscle and skeletal development occur together while muscle differentiation starts in the 5th week and bone formation begins in the 6th week:

>"Myogenesis [muscle formation] occurs immediately adjacent to, and concurrent [at the same time] with, the development of the skeleton during embryogenesis."
DiGirolamo et al. (PMC/NIH)

>"Bone ossification, or osteogenesis, is the process of bone formation. This process begins between the sixth [6th] and seventh [7th] weeks of embryonic development." Breeland et al. (NCBI)

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblems.com/quran-embryology-errors/

u/Classic-Difficulty12 — 8 days ago

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Absurd Alexander the Great Fanfiction in the Quran

Thesis: Surah Al-Kahf in the Quran ends with the story of a character named Dhul Qarnayn which secular scholars trace to legends about Alexander the Great.

Story in the Quran:

The Dhul Qarnayn story begins: “They will ask thee [Muhammad] of Dhu'l-Qarneyn.” (the story was circulating at the time).

In it, he traveled until he reached (balagha) the setting place of the sun and found (wajada) the sun setting in a muddy spring, and found (wajada) a community near it. Then he reached (balagha) the rising place of the sun where people had no shelter from it. Then he followed another path until he reached (balagha) a place between two mountains, where he found (wajada) a people asking for help against Gog and Magog. He builds an iron and copper wall between the cliffs to seal them off until doomsday.
Quran 18:83-99.

Parallels:

Quran:

>Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness.
Quran 18:86
Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter therefrom.
Quran 18:90

Alexander Legend:

>"So the whole camp mounted, and Alexander and his troops went up between the fetid sea and the bright sea to the place where the sun enters the window of heaven; for the sun is the servant of the Lord, and neither by night nor by day does he cease from his travelling. The place of his rising is over the sea, and the people who dwell there, when he is about to rise, flee away and hide themselves in the sea, that they be not burnt by his rays."
Budge, Syriac Alexander Legend, p. 148

Quran:

>"Then he followed a road ... Till, when he came between the two mountains, They said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Lo! Gog and Magog are spoiling the land ... Give me pieces of iron... Bring me molten copper to pour thereon ... And (Gog and Magog) were not able to surmount... but when the promise of my Lord cometh to pass, He will lay it low"
Quran 18:94-99

Alexander Legend:

>"He said to them, 'Who are their kings?' The old men said: 'Gog and Magog' ... Let us make a gate of brass and close up this breach… Alexander commanded… workers in iron ... workers in brass… they put down brass and iron… then they brought it and made a gate...when the world shall come to an end by the command of God... The Lord shall send His sign from heaven… and it shall be destroyed and fall."
Budge, Syriac Alexander Legend, p. 150-153

Scholarship:

>"Thus, quite strikingly, almost every element of this short Qur'anic tale finds a more explicit and detailed counterpart in the Syriac Alexander Legend."
Van Bladel, p. 181

>"Could the Syriac text have its source in the Qur'an? If this were the case, then the Syriac text would have to be seen as a highly expanded version of the Qur'anic account... However, the Syriac text contains no references to the Arabic language the type of which one might expect to find if its purpose was to explain an Arabic text, and it is impossible to see why a Syriac apocalypse written around 630 would be drawing on an Arabic tradition some years before the Arab conquests, when the community at Mecca was far from well known outside Arabia. Moreover, the very specific political message of the Alexander Legend would not make any sense in this scenario. This possibility must therefore be discounted."
Van Bladel, p. 189

Questions About Quran 18:83-99 That Only the Syriac Alexander Legend Answers

The version of the Alexander Legend in the Quran has key details missing:

1. Why Is Dhul Qarnayn Called "The Two-Horned One" (Quran 18:83)?
Answer: God gave Alexander horns on his head as weapons to destroy kingdoms.

>"thou hast made me horns upon my head, wherewith I might thrust down the kingdoms of the world"
Budge, Syriac Alexander Legend, p. 146

2. Why Do the People at the Sun's Rising Place Have No Shelter (Quran 18:90)?
Answer: The sun's heat at its rising place is so intense that it splits rocks.

>"the people who dwell there, when he is about to rise, flee away and hide themselves in the sea, that they be not burnt by his rays ... as soon as they see the sun passing [over them], men and birds flee away from before him and hide in the caves, for rocks are rent [split] by his blazing heat and fall down"
Budge, Syriac Alexander Legend, p. 148

3. Why Does Dhul Qarnayn Randomly Punish Wrongdoers at the Setting Place of the Sun (Quran 18:87)?
Answer: Alexander used condemned criminals, guilty of death, to test the fetid sea and confirm it was lethal.

>"Now Alexander thought within himself, 'If it be true as they say, that everyone who comes near the foetid sea dies, it is better that these who are guilty of death should die'"
Budge, Syriac Alexander Legend, p. 148

>He tested the efficacy of the deadly, fetid waters with the lives of convicts. This passage helps to explain the option given, for no apparent reason, by God to Dhul-Qarnayn in the Qur'an: either to punish the people or to do them a kindness.
Van Bladel, p. 189

Compare them yourself:

Dhul Qarnayn passage in Quran 18:83-99 (only 17 verses).
The Syriac Alexander Legend, pp. 144-158 (15 pages).

I have posted this argument and other arguments with citations here:
https://islamsproblems.com/quran-sun-sets-in-muddy-spring/

u/ExoticWalk2 — 22 days ago