u/SeaworthinessFun4366

the conversations I had with family members and doctors when I was close to healing

with a female psychiatrist

me: *talking about what I feel*

her: are you depressed?

me: yes (you tell me, weren't you here to diagnose me?

her: it will get better

later appointments

me: when I took antidepressants, suicidal thoughts came back but in the day time, I feel light due to intake of antidepressants

her: pills don't cause those thoughts

with my mom

her: what were you thinking?

me: I had suicidal thoughts

her: it is a sin. didn't you know that?

me: (wtf? it is medical condition, not ungratefulness)

another conservation with my mom

her: you should be thankful and grateful

me: ...

her: because prophet Muhammad struggled a lot more than, who even are you compared to him?

me: ... (I know you are trying to help, but invalidating my struggles doesn't help me)

her: what will people say? what will you say to your friends (she meant my classmates, I have 4 friends, the rest are classmates)

with my older uncle

me: I wanna be financially independent

him: so work

me: why aren't you letting me go home if so?

him: you will be poor if you don't make your mother content

me: I won't be!

him: you joined some kind mind realising cult thing

me: ... (wtf?)

with my grandpa

me: i don't wanna work like a slave for 40 years until I'm 60+

him: you became stupid

me: ...

him: will you go back to college

me: no

him: why?

me: idk

him: why?

me: ...

new psychiatrist who is friend of my older uncle

him: *praising my wins*

me: when I talk to my mom about those thoughts, she said it is a sin

him: hmm yeah it is a sin, but what can we do about it? it is a medical condition

him to my grandma: you guys treat him now as a young adult not a child. he has some psychological traumas, they are not severe.

her: ok ok

problems I faced that they give me advices but I don't see them applying on me. for example, accept people without changing (my mom). but she tried to change me. it failed horribly. And, doctors don't ask questions related to mental disorders. they just were quick to prescribe medications

I sat with my scary thoughts and overwhelming emotions most of time during last 2 months. maybe it is called meditation.

but healing changed me, but it seems like my family didn't want me to be healed because I became disobedient to them. I became autonomous.

is it culture or islam?

I am deist, I left Islam 2-3 weeks ago but they are making me follow Islam

in my country, there is a proverb "if you make one of your parents content, God will be pleased with you".

How true is that in Islam? or is it cultural thing? or just to control children's life?

my family is forcing me to make my mom content in order to acquire Allah's blessings. I mean I can do good for my mom even though Gods or people don't tell me. they are weaponizing religion against my will

in my country, there is a proverb "if you make one of your parents content, God will be pleased with you".

How true is that in Islam? or is it cultural thing? or just to control children's life?

my family is forcing me to make my mom content in order to acquire Allah's blessings. I mean I can do good for my mom even though Gods or people don't tell me. they are weaponizing religion against my will

Muslim: Then you should too can prove atheism. It's all speculation. Darwin himself was a Catholic. Is there any such thing as evolution being a fact?

me: In atheism or in science, everything is based on observation, it is said that in religions, believe this and do not question, or you are an infidel.

Muslim: So you don't believe in evolution. Because it's impossible to observe. Then science has nothing to do with atheism. Because a scientific person doesn't believe that the world came from nothing.

me: You are mistaking me for an atheist. i am a deist. I believe in a creator. but I know that he did not interfere

Muslim: We prove the existence of God based on our religion. Why did God create the cosmos if he did not interfere? The world is full of injustice. Not all evildoers are punished. Does God, being omnipotent, remain a spectator to these things? This is injustice. God cannot be unjust.

me: study the philosophy of absurdism.

Why is Allah watching the conflict between Israel and Palestine?

There is not only Islamic philosophy, there are other philosophical directions as well

Mom: I understand your struggles, I understand your feelings, I understand your depression

Me: ...

Her: You should be thankful because Muhammad had suffered more than you. Even Allah's Prophet suffered, who even are you? Thank Allah, be grateful and thankful

Me: ... (Wtf? Do you think depression is all about sadness, wtf? Just because of someone who struggled more than me doesn't mean my feelings are invalid)

Her: you love somebody,r right. You are in wrong path. That love is from Satan. Men shouldn't be like that.

Me: ... (I don't love anyone anymore. I have been rejected 4 times in life. And is that your support?)

Her: I don't want you to become like your dad. I want you to become like your uncles

Me: I don't love girls anymore. (Do you think my uncles' life are 10/10, I wanna be myself that's all)

Her: whatever you say

\\\*\\\*\\\*

I overcome depression but when my insomnia is triggered, I can't sleep

Mom: I understand your struggles, I understand your feelings, I understand your depression

Me: ...

Her: You should be thankful because Muhammad (i am doing it on purpose hahaha) had suffered more than you. Even Allah's Prophet suffered, who even are you? Thank Allah, be grateful and thankful

Me: ... (Wtf? Do you think depression is all about sadness, wtf? Just because of someone who struggled more than me doesn't mean my feelings are invalid)

Her: you love somebody,r right. You are in wrong path. That love is from Satan. Men shouldn't be like that.

Me: ... (I don't love anyone anymore. I have been rejected 4 times in life. And is that your support?)

Her: I don't want you to become like your dad. I want you to become like your uncles

Me: I don't love girls anymore. (Do you think my uncles' life are 10/10, I wanna be myself that's all)

Her: whatever you say

\\\*\\\*\\\*

I overcome depression but when my insomnia is triggered, I can't sleep

Mom: I understand your struggles, I understand your feelings, I understand your depression

Me: ...

Her: You should be thankful because Muhammad (i am doing it on purpose hahaha) had suffered more than you. Even Allah's Prophet suffered, who even are you? Thank Allah, be grateful and thankful

Me: ... (Wtf? Do you think depression is all about sadness, wtf? Just because of someone who struggled more than me doesn't mean my feelings are invalid)

Her: you love somebody,r right. You are in wrong path. That love is from Satan. Men shouldn't be like that.

Me: ... (I don't love anyone anymore. I have been rejected 4 times in life. And is that your support?)

Her: I don't want you to become like your dad. I want you to become like your uncles

Me: I don't love girls anymore. (Do you think my uncles' life are 10/10, I wanna be myself that's all)

Her: whatever you say

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I overcome depression but when my insomnia is triggered, I can't sleep

Mom: I understand your struggles, I understand your feelings, I understand your depression

Me: ...

Her: You should be thankful because Muhammad (i am doing it on purpose hahaha) had suffered more than you. Even Allah's Prophet suffered, who even are you? Thank Allah, be grateful and thankful

Me: ... (Wtf? Do you think depression is all about sadness, wtf? Just because of someone who struggled more than me doesn't mean my feelings are invalid)

Her: you love somebody,r right. You are in wrong path. That love is from Satan. Men shouldn't be like that.

Me: ... (I don't love anyone anymore. I have been rejected 4 times in life. And is that your support?)

Her: I don't want you to become like your dad. I want you to become like your uncles

Me: I don't love girls anymore. (Do you think my uncles' life are 10/10, I wanna be myself that's all)

Her: whatever you say

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I overcome depression but when my insomnia is triggered, I can't sleep

Would you be with friends if a person was Uzbek ex-muslim?

Sobıq musulmon Özbek döstilar bölsa döst bölarmidilar?

I told my buddy that I am no longer muslim. He said I am following wrong path. He doesn't know the religion

Bitta oşnamga endı musulmon emasman degandım, sız xato yöldasız deb kettı. Özı dindan xabarı yöq

One of main reasons why many ex-muslims talk about Islam nonstop is that we know Islam.

How do they expect us to talk Judaism while we have Islamic background.

And also most of former muslims were forced to learn Qur'an and Hadiths and faced contradictions.

So we talk about Islam because we know Islam more than average muslims

Ota rozı - Xudo rozı, Ona rozı - Xudo rozı degan maqol bor.

Payğambar Afandınıñ otası tuğılışıdan oldın ölgan, onası esa 6 yoşlıgıda ölgan.

Demak Payğambar Afandıdan Xudo rozı emasmı?!

I am an ISFP. I had a persona who is an ENTJ. One day I felt that we merged. What happens if an ISFP and an ENTJ merged into a single identity?

How can I live with this?
20m, my family follows islam, my mom is forcing religion onto me.

because of that, my mind became atheist, but my heart still believes God. I don't know what to do