u/StepKitchen2409

Just wanted to air my thoughts & findings of my BF6 session today using a controller - can’t post this on the main BF6 sub for some reason but here we go

I want to preface and say I have no bias or preference if you are a controller or a MnK player - play what you enjoy and as you should hopefully read on, I feel that both inputs are fairly well balanced

I’m a decent mouse player, Master rank in the Voltaic benchmarks apparently puts me in the top 3-4% of aim trainers. I love the knowledge/science behind learning to aim correctly (it’s a deep rabbit hole) and I understand it well along with the practical follow through to back up the theory.

I usually play BF6 with a mouse and do pretty well, 4.5k/d and drop a 100+ kill game every now and then as infantry - I still die a lot due to being a rush/frontline kind of player and making bad positioning decisions (definitely a game sense issue)

Today I decided to play with a controller, I use controller on and off, never really seriously and not played much of BF6 with a controller. I used a controller for majority of my childhood and on/off gaming later on. I would consider myself maybe above average with a controller when I’m dialled in.

Before I started BF6 I did a few aiming routines in aimlabs with the controller, like I would do with a mouse before I play any FPS game, even if it’s a casual game like BF6. Aimlabs has no aim assist and the settings are quirkier than the settings in BF6 but I did it anyway

First game I load into with a controller, I go on a tear and get an 18 kill streak off the bat, ending a game of Escalation 53-9 - my brain could not fathom??? Perhaps an easier lobby? There were no bots in this lobby

Load into a second game, this time Breakthrough. Few deaths straight away. Perhaps my last game was a fluke and this is controller for me??? Come back with 13 kills straight to bring to me 13-4. Attacking side, lost the game, top of the leaderboard and 41-11.

These are the sort of k/d’s that I get with my mouse?! Is my 1000+ hours of aim training totally wasted in a game like BF6 lol???

My conclusion:

Playing with a controller was really fun for me and I enjoyed every minute of it. There were straight up kills I got with a controller that I knew I’d likely have not gotten with a mouse. Example - enemy is on a nasty head glitch and I can only see a tiny head in the distance, controller just ended them quickly. I know with a mouse these are trickier to hit and often require tap firing. Hip firing on a controller is a lot fun too!

The aim assist, I definitely visually saw, and felt, the reticle sticking to the enemy. Is it too strong? I don’t think so. I just wanted to pick up a controller and play, and be somewhat competitive and I was just that. I am objectively better with a mouse because of the time I’ve spent working on that skill, but I was just as good, and quite quickly. I think it’s balanced for the most part. Although if I had spent 1000+ hours aim training with a controller instead of a mouse, I think the outcome would be ridiculous. I felt the Aimlabs routines I was running for controller were really really beneficial and gave me a boost even before I shot an enemy in game.

What assist struggled with on controller was the snap of a mouse. If you have good aim with a mouse you know this is called target switching, it’s potentially one of my strongest aiming categories. Going from 2 or more adjacent enemies on controller is more difficult for sure. A mouse I will just snap from 1st to 2nd with no issues. If the enemies are behind one another, I always use penetration ammo so it felt the same on controller and MnK. The controller felt like sticky and hard to switch to the next target.

Recoil, I only noticed it marginally. It’s definitely a little less on controller, on guns like the VCR for example, I can beam at considerable distance full auto with a controller and won’t get away with that as much on a mouse.

I play with 40cm/360 in BF6 on mouse and I used 70 sensitivity on controller. It felt really cool to be able to flick and rotate on controller really fast, it was odd seeing my screen move so rapidly. To the point going back to mouse felt visually slow.

Finally - I believe the game is balanced for both inputs. I love that if I’m not feeling like using a desk/mouse I can just sit back with a controller and play and still have fun. I’m going to start implementing small amounts of time to controller aim training the same way I would with a mouse aiming program and I’m excited to see the results and how they translate in game.

Anybody else experimented with this? Or gone down a different route? I know some mouse players will use a controller if the game has aim assist so I’m curious to hear/discuss

My friends and I were talking about benchmark ranks.

Im jade complete working my way to Master rank on VT benchmarks - my friend is Master II in Aimlabs and we wanted to know how comparable these are?

Is there a difference in difficulty? Since we both have our own experiences on separate benchmarks we didn’t really know so that’s the post

Im a real firm believer in being able to increase your skill ceiling higher by using a moderate to slow sensitivity. This reason I say this is because a mod-slow sens translates to larger mouse movements. In my personal experience larger movements equals better consistency with accuracy and speed shortly follows once adapted.

For example a 10cm/360 will move his mouse a fraction to hit a target on the side of his screen. A 60cm/360 player will have to move his mouse considerably to hit the same target.

How consistently and quickly can you subconsciously flick your mouse to the exact 1cm x 1cm square on a mousepad that is directly on the target?

Well, as I’m now approaching GM complete my progress is not what it used to be. Diminishing returns even when I put extra time in.

So here’s what I’ve been doing:

A scenario like 1 wall 1 target works best for this, the size of the target is totally dependent on you.

You are not shooting for score. You are training.

Before you initiate your flick to the next target, close your eyes and open them once the flick has stopped. How close/far to the target were you?

Experimenting myself, if I over flick my targets the entire run and the next run, lower my sens, and then rerun the scenario again, I’m closer and closer to the target. Eventually ending in a near perfect run of landing my flicks with entirely my perception of where my mouse should land on the mouse pad.

Somehow I feel like I’m training my subconscious, like I’m listening to how much my brain thinks it needs to move my arm/wrist to get to the target. I’m not sure if the science behind it - by my god, IT WORKS! (at least it has for me, very well)

Any thoughts on this?

It sounds dumb and maybe it is, but I genuinely believe it’s only benefiting the training side of things and having done this every day for a number of weeks now, I feel like I’m sharper than ever with clicking dots!

My mouse settings give me an option to change the angle of my sensor to match my grip.

I’ve noticed my hand is always at a slight angle but I’ve never thought about it in game or aim training ever.

Is this something to consider using?

Anybody a decently high level aimer using this tech? Or just keep it at 0 degrees?

It happens randomly, no given time or warning.

At least once per day.

Black screens, fans shoot up to full speed.

Only way to stop (at least I’ve found) is turning power off at the wall.

Where to start pls?

I’ve recently learnt about expansion and contraction phases within aimtraining and I’ve noticed both phases a whole bunch.

These are my own interpretations so bear with me.

Expansion - when you feel the work put in coming into practice, like you touch the mouse and your crosshairs just land where they need to be and stay on target if need to be, switching from target to target is crisp, smooth yet fast

Contraction - you’re not hitting PB’s, it feels like a grind to get anywhere, scenarios feel like going through the motions a little, almost as if progress has halted entirely. These phases I’ve learnt to enjoy much more - they’ll never deter me entirely from playing at all, I just embrace it. I know shortly I’ll get that slingshot effect in my progress.

I’ve noticed for me, if I sleep great that days aiming or playing is just elevated and at its best. Sleep being my biggest driver.

I also love playing harder scenarios than I’m currently capable of handling - really playing them. Grinding them over and over with full conviction. Then returning the the scenario I intend to get better at and smashing a PB.

I also love changing sensitivity. I train with 100+cm to teach me to be fast with my arms. I train with 10-20cm to teach me tiny finger/hand/wrist control. I mostly play circa 40cm in my games and majority of my benchmarks scenarios.

So it got me thinking - what does everyone else think leads to their biggest jumps in progress? And do you prioritise it? (Like sleep for example)

I’m about 300 hours into aim training.

On aimlabs, usually I watch the top 3 leaderboard after my own attempts.

I noticed that their targets were like 50% larger than mine and the screen was zoomed in.

Lowered my FOV from 103 to 70 and my targets were the same size and obviously I hit a new PB.

Doesn’t this defeat the purpose of aim training???

I’m confused…should I be doing this to achieve a higher score and rank? Is this not just total cheese? 🧀

I’ve spent 300+ hours aim training seriously tryna bust my ass to get new benchmark scores and rank with 103FOV…was I supposed to be setting it to 70?!????

Have browsed this topic lightly on Reddit - is the Nvidia filter worth using for BF6 or just keep it standard?

Also, if using, does it affect performance/input latency?

Humour me please: I just want to decrease my PC latency as much as possible.

From mouse/keyboard/input latency to fps latency.

I have ‘debloated’ my windows and have no other apps running in the background when gaming. But I still want to lower this as much as possible.

Nvidia overlay used to give me 6-11ms in game but now I’m at 17-24ms so something has changed and I just want to see how low I can get this number.

What would/do you have to do to decrease latency please?

Got a long flight tomorrow - want to download some YouTube playlists of educational stuff.

Any content creators to recommend or links to playlists?

Thanks

Basically - I am always changing up my sens, just to train a range of them.

I view top leaderboard runs a lot to get an idea of what they’re doing, but I’m ALWAYS wondering what sensitivity cm/360 they’re using.

Is this a feature currently in Aimlabs and I’ve just overlooked it?

Or, is it a feature coming soon? (Pls 🙏)

Sens has become a really rabbit hole-esque topic to me and also a big mental bug.

I aim train quite a lot, often more than I’m actually playing a game - just because I really enjoy the process and find it mega rewarding.

That said, I really struggle with picking the Sens I want to use in game for the day.

Does anybody warm up, fiddle with Sens and change it in game, on a daily basis?

I say this because I literally completed Topaz on 16cm/360 and I felt bottlenecked for a while because I lacked stability. Over many hours I’ve slowly ramped up to nearly 40cm/360 which feels great for aimtraining as an all round purpose sens.

But in the games I play (mainly BF6 or COD at the moment) I find the ability to rotate to be such a hindrance with these more stable cm/360 as opposed to say 25-35cm - but in my aimtraining I’m so much more consistent with 40-60cm/360.

So - I am really curious to hear:

- how you got to your sens? pls explain it as methodically as you can

- how often do you change your sens?

- where did most of your progress come from using a high or low sens?