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Eric Davis confirms he saw photos of craft and bodies: "That took it to a higher level, kicked it up several notches of reality, made it very clear that this reality is very hard, very physical, very real", "I saw the evidence and it's stark". He also confirms retrievals in 1930s, 40s, 53 and 58

Update: Eric Davis is being interviewed right now

See this post. 10 minutes in and he is already talking about seeing craft at skinwalker ranch, orbs, poltergeist activity following him, etc

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This was posted on X by Joe Murgia:

> James Fox: "Put me wherever you were when you got to see photographs of crash retrieval and documents. What did that feel like?"

> Eric Davis: "That was startling when I actually... see... recorded evidence with my own eyes: photographs, reports, and whatnot. That took it to a higher level. That kicked it up several notches of reality and made it very clear that this reality is very hard, very physical, very real"

> Eric Davis: "This type of evidence you can't come by in the open literature. It's not public; it's classified and I can't discuss what it was but I can tell you: yeah it's a crash retrieval, there's a craft and there's alien bodies. That's all I can say about it"

> James Fox: "You swear on your life that you saw those pictures?"

> Eric Davis: "Oh I swear on my life and everybody's life, my children's life, so yeah I am absolutely telling you the truth. I saw the evidence and it's stark! I can't tell you the exact number because it is classified but I'll just say there are a few dozen total retrievals"

> James Fox: "1930s crash retrieval?"

> Eric Davis: "It's in the classified record that that is a real event. 1940s? Yes! [...] in '53 and one in '58, but there are others"

u/Theferael_me — 2 hours ago
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Coulthart reveals disclosure dynamics: "an intention by James Clapper to try and impose a [controled disclosure]narrative on the public using Luis as a frontman". Grusch revelations disturbed Clappers plan. Coulthart says Elizondo worked in Legacy Program. White House is considering appointing him

Update: UAPGERB confirms he heard similar statements

See bottom of this post

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In the latest Q&A Coulthart descibes some of the disclosure dynamics going on.

Timestamp 18:23:

Coulthart: Elizondo is the one the White House considers appointing

> Coulthart: "I'm not going to lie to you, that the gentleman that I've been talking about whom I suspect might be up for a big position is Luis Elizondo.

Coulthart: Elizondo needs to be more forthcoming about his past roles

> Coulthart: "[...] I think Luis needs to be more forthcoming about his past roles. And I like and respect Luis a lot. And I think he's in a difficult position because he's bound by his security oath about what he can reveal about his past roles. I know he can't talk about it"

Many people think Elizondo was part of a previous agenda

> Coulthart: "It's a ridiculous situation, but there are people who bitterly resent and don't think it's a good idea that Luis be appointed to a position of power in UAP transparency because they think that he was part of a previous agenda that was essentially to try to control the narrative to restrict what the public is entitled to know about the UAP disclosure"

James Clapper launched the controlled disclosure plan, with Elizondo as a frontman

> Coulthart: "And I think a lot of this was an intention by James Clapper, General James Clapper, to try and impose a narrative on the public domain using Luis as a frontman, a highly urbane, articulate, and likable frontman to try to restrict what the public was told about crash retrievals"

Grusch disturbed Clappers controlled disclosure plan

> Coulthart: "And it struck me over the years that I've been covering this issue that the story that we ran with David Grush really wrongfooted all of this. That all of a sudden David comes out and says, "Hang on a moment. We're not just arguing here about whether there are aliens or not. What we're talking about here is a crash retrieval and reverse engineering program and I'm saying it's real." he says"

> Coulthart: "And I think that did wrong foot that national security state attempt to try and provide a controlled disclosure. But I refuse to accept that the people like Luis Elizondo who were part of that attempt at a controlled disclosure were motivated by bad things. They're patriots. They love their country"

Grusch disappointed in Clapper: "he placed people in critical roles to manage this issue both publicly and non-publicly"

Here is a video where Grusch says Clapper managed the crash retrieval issue. He describes a "game of thrones" activity with multiple factions of the deep state, obama, clinton, trump involvement.

> Grusch: "And I'm a little bit disappointed as a fellow Air Force officer, and certainly General Clapper rate rose to the ranks as three-star general. That's all he said in the documentary, that that was a program he was aware of. In fact, without being inappropriate, I will say that General Clapper was well aware of the crash retrieval issue, managed the crash retrieval issue, and when he was the DNI, USDI, and DIA director, he placed people in critical roles to manage this issue both publicly and I'll just say not non-publicly as well"

Grusch: "General Clapper, Stephanie Wilson: be greater leaders on this"

> Grusch: "And I'll allow the audience to distill what I'm saying at the at the risk of being inappropriate or going too far with my discussion. So, General Clapper, Stephanie Wilson, other folks in the IC that are well aware of this issue that were in rooms discussing this issue, I ask you to be greater leaders on this. I should not be the only former military officer and intelligence official that is being completely candid with the information that they were exposed to"

Back to Coultharts Q&A video:

Coulthart: Elizondo worked in the Legacy Program

> Coulthart: "And I've spoken to people in the legacy program who knew Luis [Coulthart addresses elizondo directly] Luis: I know a lot of people, and they know you, and I know you can't speak about the role that you've held within the legacy program, but you did. And I think we've got to stop this nonsense because it's becoming destructive"

Elizondo is not in the "suppress reverse engineering" gatekeeper faction

> Coulthart: "[...] there is clearly a gatekeeper faction and Luis is not part of that gatekeeper faction that are trying to totally suppress the existence of crash retrievals and reverse engineering. And why do I believe that? Because he's talked candidly about the fact that Roswell was real and that there have been crash retrievals and that there has been reverse engineering. Now, he may not have done that if it wasn't for David Grush coming up, but [...]

If im understanding it right, Clappers plan initially was not to reveal reverse engineering (or not as fast as Grusch did it), but now that the toothpaste is out of the tube, it does. Still not full disclosure (abductions, agreements, etc), so it is definitely still controlled disclosure

Coulthart: I was very skeptical, but Trump and Miller are deadly serious about this topic

Timestamp 6:42:

> Coulthart: "I was very skeptical, very very cynical about the idea that President Trump, members of the actual executive administration of the US government are serious at all about UAP disclosure, that Trump was essentially just humoring this idea"

> Coulthart: "But it's been impressed upon me by quite a number of politicians both on and off the record. And you'll see some of those interviews shortly that Trump is serious. And the way that he's demonstrated how serious he is is by getting Steven Miller, his deputy chief of staff, to handle this brief. They are deadly serious. They are actually engaged with this topic"

What was Elizondo's role in Legacy Program?

For anyone wondering, see this image

UAPGERB: there are 2 allegations

Posted on X:

> Similar to @rosscoulthart I have heard similar statements from individuals within or on the periphery of the Legacy Programs regarding Mr. Elizondo. These allegations are two-fold:

> (1) From 2009-2017, Lue operated the AATIP, a cover program for several National Security Council-led activities at the behest of DNI James Clapper. This effort originated from within the Legacy Program onion (Clapper) and sought to push a partial disclosure/transparency initiative, culminating in attempts to establish Hillary Clinton as the "disclosure" president.

> (2) Separate from the AATIP, Elizondo has a very deep history within the Legacy architecture, specifically surrounding program protection.....

> I believe both of these allegations are not only true, but must be carefully considered, evaluated, and understood by both the public and White House.

> Lue said it best in a recent interview that history will remember him as a patriot or a villain. I do still think there is an opportunity for history to remember him as a patriot (I believe Lue believes he's operating as an American patriot), but time is running out, and there can only be so many lies, half-truths, and questionable actions before the house of cards crumbles...

u/Theferael_me — 7 days ago
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US Rep. Eric Burlison stated (in a recorded Space on X) that he was told directly by David Grusch there are “Nordics” a few hundred years ahead of us, and the “Greys” are being sent here by another far more advanced species

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u/NotBradPitt9 — 21 days ago
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Not sure when Pellegrino last made the second round of a Masters but he will now play the Frenchman Fils.

u/Theferael_me — 2 months ago
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Perhaps the greatest comic opera and arguably Mozart's finest opera. What a shame the opera house wasn't preserved. It was demolished in 1888 and moved to a new location.

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