I tried my best to link some relatively mysterious creatures.

My Theory:

The Old Ones caught early Zoats already existing on the whfb world to modify; uncaptured Zoats retreated to the forests to stay hidden.

The captured Zoats began being genetically modified into other creatures, two of which are Dragon Ogres and Troglodytes (a type of primitive lizardman); populations of these escaped into the wild or were discarded to govern themselves.

The Old Ones created "true" Ogres and Lizardmen, potentially from this stock or otherwise—the origin remains truly unknown. Evidence for this hypothesis is the morphological traits shared by different species, combined with the knowledge of how the Old Ones genetically/magically modified and created many of the known races.

Each population throughout this development had a purpose:

Group A: Zoats -> Troglodytes -> [potentially] Lizardmen?. They were modified from being quadrupedal and were "dumbed down" to eventually be remade into a group absolutely subservient to the Old Ones as chief servants, enforcers, and builders.

Group B: Zoats -> Dragon Ogres -> [true] Ogres. They were modified over this process to be highly adaptable laborers in climates where Lizardmen were less able to thrive, before shifting to an anti-chaos role. The interim most of the Dragon Ogres were made to resistant to further modification for greater adaptability; the bulk of them were discarded into the world where they fell to Chaos en masse, fearing their former captors. They remain quadrupedal and reptilian on the bottom half.

So many thousands of years have gone by that all five extant populations have forgotten their related history.

Anyways that would explain why so many different similar things exist at least on part including why radical different traits are present in similar but not known to be related things.

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u/thesithcultist — 8 days ago
▲ 1.4k r/elfenlied+2 crossposts

Art: 31221 Gustav Klimt - The Kiss (Source: Buggy)

u/BrickTap — 10 days ago

What is used as the state/military emblem or flag colors of Melniboné as depicted in the comics

I'm shure there is variation in the different depictions and I have only read the first 2 books but didn't notice anything so stand out like the Ruby throne or anything on banners.

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u/thesithcultist — 13 days ago

I been building the new Armageddon release but why it different from the one on the back of the box?

u/thesithcultist — 26 days ago
▲ 30 r/Grimdank+1 crossposts

Rhinox I never knew her?

Missing from the range for another decade we'll underway

u/thesithcultist — 29 days ago

It's going to be great I have to exclaim, as a fan of both knowing what was made last by this team

Also getting into the Elric saga most lately after seeing how both comunitys overlap in this niche, there is no way that this ape man is not a neolithic inspired rendition of a Melnibonéin and I have no idea where else to share that other than shoehorning it here right now. Let's discuss it all

u/thesithcultist — 1 month ago
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Is that lightning in the east horizon out of town tonight, yellow flashes in sky at 9:30 ish on 6-18

Did anyone else see this, is it like the power company or lightning?

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u/thesithcultist — 1 month ago
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I didn't stick them to anything yet but they been balancing here for a while, what did you guys commit them to for ideas?

Is as titled

u/thesithcultist — 1 month ago

Is Whiskers an animal or a God

Like a familiar or like Loki I meant spacificaly? I'm halfway through The Fortress of Pearl and Jasper was here for fleetin moments. I added "the cat" to me notes but crossed it out because I'm having conflicting hunches if it's super important or completely dismissive based on the tone and what is going on in the Saga so far. The tone of the meeting threw me off as to the true nature and the what is shown to perceive of them. I can tell Jasper is to return as like a antagonist but not the big bad, or am I missing something? Please be light on spoilers if you can

Tl;Dr do these two return Y/N before the book ends, become recurring characters later or are they forgettable but most of all is the Cat simply or supernaturally more complex?

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u/thesithcultist — 2 months ago

Trying to make a all encompassing list of off-model Space Marines, pseudo-Astartes, proto-Astartes in lore drop more names for I if you know any please

Abraxus gent

Leetu

Igori

Luther

Kor Phaeron

Larana Utar

Vasila Manatu

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u/thesithcultist — 3 months ago