r/TwiceExceptional

Anyone feeling like they want people to stop having expectations of them?

Ever since I remember myself I can remember people having expectations of me. That I should study more, work more, present myself this way, do this, don't do that, etc. And I am so burnt out I want to tell people to shove these expectations up you know where.

Idk, I was pretty much the school's smart kid (to the point where I, someone with a working-class background in Greece, ended up with a full-ride scholarship in a pretty decent US college, which I've now come to hate because of its own expectations). But since I have AuDHD, I will be in a position where people know enough to exploit me, but never enough to see me as a peer. I feel like I'm always too much for them, yet I'm also in a position where they always expect sth from me. And I want them to stfu, but I know I have to keep face and not burn bridges and all that bs. Does anyone else feel like this?

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u/VivianAeterna125 — 1 day ago

Late-diagnosed ADHD adult with high WAIS scores — possible 2e or just high intelligence?

Hello everyone,

I recently underwent a full neuropsychological evaluation because my psychiatrist suspected ADHD and possibly twice-exceptionality (2e), so he referred me to a neuropsychologist experienced in adult ADHD assessment.

The evaluation included:

  • WAIS-IV
  • Rey Complex Figure Test
  • Executive functioning and ADHD-related scales/tests

The neuropsychologist diagnosed me with moderate combined ADHD, but stated that I do not meet criteria for giftedness / twice-exceptionality mainly because of a 16-point discrepancy between my VCI and PRI scores on the WAIS-IV.

According to her interpretation, this discrepancy would be inconsistent with a gifted cognitive profile. She used the metaphor of “a Ferrari engine trapped in a golf cart” to describe my functioning.

However, my psychiatrist disagrees with several aspects of the interpretation. He believes the context surrounding the testing was not sufficiently considered, especially:

  • untreated ADHD at the time of testing,
  • chronic anxiety history,
  • and the fact that I have been treated with antidepressants for GAD for over 10 years.

Interestingly, the neuropsychologist concluded that I do not currently meet full criteria for GAD, although the testing still showed moderate anxiety traits. My psychiatrist argued that long-term treatment may have partially reduced the visible anxiety profile during testing.

At the moment, he is considering:

  • ADHD,
  • ADHD + giftedness / 2e,
  • and anxiety as overlapping possibilities.

This divergence between professionals has honestly left me confused.

I’ve been reading extensively about ADHD, but I do not fully relate to many “classic” ADHD presentations.

Some personal traits/history that seem relevant:

  • extremely talkative and mentally hyperactive since childhood,
  • highly curious and investigative,
  • tendency to hyperfocus deeply on topics of interest,
  • difficulty letting go of unanswered questions or illogical explanations,
  • tendency to overwhelm people unintentionally by going too deep into discussions,
  • intense intellectual interests often perceived as “too much” or “weird” by others,
  • very strong verbal/auditory memory,
  • unusually easy language acquisition,
  • adaptation to different cultures/languages,
  • chronic feeling of being misunderstood socially,
  • excellent academic performance with very little studying during childhood/adolescence,
  • increasing executive dysfunction only becoming obvious in adulthood with higher life demands.

WAIS-IV results:

  • FSIQ: 131
  • VCI: 137
  • PRI: 121
  • WMI: 133
  • PSI: 129

WAIS-IV subtests (raw scores):

  • Vocabulary: 62
  • Similarities: 38
  • Comprehension: 33
  • Information: 18
  • Block Design: 44
  • Matrix Reasoning: 17
  • Picture Arrangement: 17
  • Picture Completion: 25
  • Digit Span: 21
  • Letter-Number Sequencing: 21
  • Arithmetic: 21
  • Coding: 88
  • Symbol Search: 46

Executive functioning / ADHD-related tests:

BDEFS (Barkley Deficits in Executive Functioning Scale):

  • Total Score: Percentile 90
  • Time Management: Percentile 95
  • Motivation: Percentile 90
  • Organization / Problem Solving: Percentile 80
  • Emotional Regulation: Percentile 80
  • Self-Control: Percentile 60
  • ADHD Symptoms Index: Percentile 95
  • Dysexecutive Symptoms Index: Percentile 90

ADT (Time Management Inventory):

  • 59 affirmative responses indicating significant executive functioning and time-management difficulties.

FDT (Five Digits Test):

  • Reading: Percentile 75
  • Counting: Percentile 50–75
  • Choice / Inhibitory Control: Percentile 50–75
  • Alternation / Cognitive Flexibility: Percentile 75–95
  • Inhibition Index: Percentile 50–75
  • Flexibility Index: Percentile 75–95

ETDAH-AD: Higher elevations in:

  • Inattention
  • Emotional aspects
  • Self-regulation of attention/motivation/action

Lower elevation in:

  • Impulsivity

Rey Complex Figure Test: The report described:

  • organizational inefficiency,
  • executive inconsistency,
  • attentional fluctuation,
  • and overload under complex/open-ended tasks.

I’m currently starting ADHD medication treatment and considering whether I should seek a second neuropsychological opinion about my tests' results.

I would genuinely appreciate hearing from people familiar with:

  • gifted ADHD / 2e presentations,
  • heterogeneous WAIS profiles,
  • or adults diagnosed later in life.

Does this profile sound more consistent with:

  • ADHD alone with high intelligence,
  • or a possible twice-exceptional presentation?
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u/gicort — 2 days ago

Could this be signs of 2e at 28 months?

Our son is 28 months and has a severe speech delay (suspected apraxia /phonological delay) but it seems his letter awareness and other comprehension is advanced.

He can recognize all letters out of order and random, as well as the alphabet in order, knows the name and sound for each letter, can match all letters with pictures (that he hasn't seen before) eg pick up a G and then a picture of a goat, spells out words on signs etc.

This is an example of him reading letters from cards that he'd only seen once or twice before months ago. He also knows letters just by their shadow/shape on a board.

Could this be a sign of gifted/2e? Obviously we are getting him support for speech but now we are so wondering if something else is going on as well.

His speech is very delayed he only really says single words, didn't say Mama until 27 months, does some combos and sentences more recently but literally reduced down to a few one syllables words, struggles hugely with syllables, drops end consonants on every word... but can do this with letters.

ST says no signs of ASD which would tend to agree with but of course open minded on that one, and he doesn't fixate or anything on the letters, just really good at them.

Any advice/ experience much appreciated, or thoughts on if this is age appropriate etc?

u/Relative-Letter-6345 — 2 days ago
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School is suggesting my son repeats 1st grade,, for “social concerns”

My son skipped kindergarten and was moved from pre-k directly into 1st grade because he was academically advanced. He is now finishing 1st grade, and his teacher/principal are recommending retention in 1st grade for “social maturity” concerns, not academic or behavioral concerns.

Academically, they agree he is above grade level. In fact, many of the solutions they proposed for retaining him involve giving him advanced work, allowing him to attend higher-grade science classes, differentiated assignments, iPad learning, etc.

He also has ADHD and recently started Vyvanse, which his teacher says has significantly improved his attention and classroom behavior. He is currently undergoing autism evaluations through the school psychologist, and we have an active ARD process pending. He was experiencing behavioral issues at school like using the middle finger, and saying things to other students that shouldn’t be said at school. We immediately scheduled him an appt with his physician and he got his ADHD diagnosis the day of the appointment. It was like a “no brainer.” Once the medication was started, absolutely all behavioral concerns ceased.

Some of the “social concerns” seem to involve:
- correcting peers on technically accurate information,
- arguing about factual/scientific concepts,
- literal thinking,
-inability to regulate emotions
- difficulty transitioning between tasks
- and seeming socially out of sync with same-age classmates.

However, he is very verbal, socially motivated, and actually interacts extremely well with adults. He independently initiates conversations, asks reciprocal questions, remembers details about people, and has no fear around social interaction in general.

Another important detail: his birthday is only 5 days after the school cutoff date. Had he been born on his due date instead of several days late, he would naturally be entering 2nd grade right now anyway.

I’m struggling with whether retaining him would actually help, or whether it would create more issues by putting him in an academically under-stimulating environment where he is even more out of sync with peers intellectually.

I’m especially concerned because the proposed first-grade plan sounds much more “accommodated” and socially isolating than simply moving him to 2nd grade with targeted social supports.

Has anyone experienced something similar with a gifted/ADHD/autistic or “twice exceptional” child? Did retention help? Or did accommodations/supports in the next grade work better long-term socially and emotionally?

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u/Backwoodskenz — 3 days ago

Panicking 2e (4e?) multi-potentate chronically ill tutor looking for help finding summer work...

I’m a private tutor and a certified teacher. The recent tech layoffs have totally throttled my client base and two students just graduated as well. And rather than have room to be happy for them, I feel like I’m treading water trying to figure out where i can post to get students. I tutor ALMOST everything (b/c adhd and no dominant region of my brain)… I even had some lady attack me on next door saying I can’t possibly enjoy all the subjects I tutor. I refuse to tutor the subjects i don’t enjoy, tyvm… anyway, anyone have any leads? I’ll attach my flyer here and my tutoring bio pics.

u/AyraAurelia — 3 days ago

High reasoning gifted child with low processing speed - looking for similar experiences

Hi everyone,

I’m looking for parents who recognize this kind of profile in their child.

My 8 year old son recently had a WISC-V assessment. His Fluid Reasoning score was 147, with very high verbal and visual-spatial scores too, but his processing speed was only 83. His reading, spelling and fluency scores are much lower than you would expect when you talk to him or see how he thinks.

He understands things instantly, sees patterns immediately and often seems to “just know” things without needing much explanation. But at the same time he struggles with speed, automatisation, handwriting, routine schoolwork and getting thoughts onto paper fast enough.

It sometimes feels like he is both extremely advanced and struggling at the same time and I honestly find that combination confusing as a parent.

I think I’m mainly looking for parents of children with profiles like:
gifted + dyslexia
gifted + ADHD
2e / 3e
high reasoning but slow output
children who think much faster/deeper than they can practically show at school

What helped your child most?
What did schools misunderstand?
Did things improve with the right environment?

Would really appreciate hearing from people who recognize this.

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u/Impressive_Bat_3577 — 5 days ago

I'm so angry.. how can I be so smart and so stupid at the same time.

I just went to the variety store. I was in a rush; they were closing in 10 minutes and it was just around the corner, so I called and said I’d be there in 7. I was, lol. “See you in seven.” 😂

I needed cigarettes and wanted to pick up a six-pack before they closed; mostly the cigarettes. While there, I noticed they sold subs. I thought they were prepackaged with everything on them, but then he told me I had to pick up my items separately. I almost forgot the cigarettes, but thankfully I remembered.

I said goodbye and went outside. They closed up the store, walked by me, and I waved at them. Then I unlocked my bike and went home.

Once I got home and unpacked everything... guess what? No sub. :-(

How can I be so stupid? I can argue with people for hours and analyze complex ideas, yet I can’t remember where my damn sub is. How can I be so smart and so stupid at the same time?

Of course I got emotionally deregulated about it and started freaking out. I had to hop back on my bike and go back hoping for the best ​and thankfully found it lying on the sidewalk near where I parked.

Sometimes I hate me. 😟​

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u/Midnight5691 — 5 days ago
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Grieving having to leave to protect my health

Everything was going well before 2020 and being 2e and AuDHD the compensation got harder and harder and it broke me. Now on recovery I had to make peace with tenure track not being a healthy option and would probably need to go back to doing what I could naturally do well because that will give my nervous system a break it desperately needs. Any of you have experienced this? And how do you get past the loss?

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u/Creative_Snow_879 — 6 days ago

2e person looking for help, connection, resources, and a path to proper cognitive assessment

Hey,

I'm a 3rd-year physics undergrad, international student, and I've been grinding through a genuinely brutal stretch — immigration stress, financial pressure, academic overload, and chronic sleep deprivation that's been running for months.

I self-identify as twice-exceptional. High conceptual ceiling, significant executive output gap. The kind of brain that solves things nobody asked me to solve and then misses the deadline for the thing I was supposed to do.

The problem: I've never had a proper cognitive assessment. No WAIS-IV, no documented profile, nothing official. And without that, every institutional system I touch misreads me — either as not trying hard enough, or right now, as something I'm not.

Psychiatry under DSM suspects it as the symptoms of Psychosis, while I struggle to make them understand about 2e but they respond that there is no study in the field of psychiatry as such as 2e-cognitive profile. I'm not looking for validation. I'm looking for:

  • Anyone who's navigated getting a real 2e assessment (especially WAIS-IV with GAI + subtest scores)
  • Doctors or psychologists who actually understand 2e vs. misdiagnosis
  • Resources, communities, or people who get the specific texture of this

If you've been through the pipeline and come out with something that actually documented who you are — I want to hear how you got there.

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u/Luca_Nyx — 5 days ago
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hi all can anyone say facts whats the diffrfence between 2e and 3e

whats the 3 in 3e im 2e but what marks or kiteria do u need to have 3e and what is it ?

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u/dyslexticboy12 — 7 days ago

Flow State in Neurodivergent People

The "Pseudo-Flow": The Cognitive Engineering of Thrice-Exceptionality (ASD + ADHD + Giftedness)

Traditional psychological literature defines the "State of Flow" (Csikszentmihalyi) as a moment of total immersion, where an individual merges with the task, loses self-awareness, and operates on an energy-efficient autopilot.

However, for individuals living at the intersection of Thrice-Exceptionality (3e) — the coexistence of Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD), Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), and Giftedness —, there is a qualitatively different high-performance state. We call this phenomenon Pseudo-Flow.

While common flow is based on passive automation, Pseudo-Flow is a state of active neurocognitive hyperconnection, where the three conditions cease to conflict and instead operate in perfect mechanical synergy.

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■ The Anatomy of Pseudo-Flow: The Three-Engine Formula

Unlike neurotypical flow, which depends on ideal external environmental factors, Pseudo-Flow can be intentionally activated through reverse engineering. For this state to occur, the task must simultaneously meet three specific neurodivergent criteria:

● Direction (The ASD Anchor): The autistic brain rejects ambiguity and structural chaos. The trigger requires a clearly defined and deeply understood goal. This eliminates the anxiety of uncertainty, providing rigid and safe tracks for the focus to latch onto.

● Dopaminergic Fuel (The ADHD Ignition): ADHD brains operate with a baseline dopamine deficit. The goal must carry high anticipatory reward or a stimulating sense of novelty. This silences internal conflict: ADHD and ASD agree, desiring and pursuing the exact same outcome.

● Systemic Complexity (The Gifted Processor): If a task is too simple, ADHD gets bored and ASD stagnates. The state requires a complex intellectual challenge — a structured puzzle that forces the mind to unravel hidden patterns, fully engaging the central processing unit of giftedness.

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■■ Clinical Contrast: Common Flow vs. Pseudo-Flow

To understand the difference in processing, here is the direct contrast of each cognitive characteristic between the two states:

Attentional Focus

● Csikszentmihalyi's Flow: Total, hyper-focused, and linear attention on a single activity at a time.

● Pseudo-Flow (Thrice-Exceptionality): Multiple and simultaneous parallel attention, actively managing 2 to 4 complex thought streams at the same time.

Self-Awareness

● Csikszentmihalyi's Flow: Lost or drastically reduced. The individual experiences a blind fusion with the task, forgetting their own existence.

● Pseudo-Flow (Thrice-Exceptionality): Maintained and expanded. Chronic, active metacognition occurs in real-time; the individual analyzes the problem while consciously watching themselves perform.

Temporal Perception

● Csikszentmihalyi's Flow: Total loss of the track of time. Hours pass without the person noticing the clock.

● Pseudo-Flow (Thrice-Exceptionality): Deeply altered or accelerated temporal perception, yet fully monitored and tracked by the conscious mind.

Biological and Energy Cost

● Csikszentmihalyi's Flow: Low cost. The brain optimizes resources by shutting down irrelevant areas, entering an energy-efficient autopilot.

● Pseudo-Flow (Thrice-Exceptionality): Extremely high cost. There is an active structural hyperconnection that consumes cellular glucose and oxygen at an industrial speed.

State Termination

● Csikszentmihalyi's Flow: Ends naturally when the physical task is completed or interrupted by external factors.

● Pseudo-Flow (Thrice-Exceptionality): Has no visible natural end. Since the goal is usually abstract (connecting ideas, evolving, deciphering), the brain continues to process in the background indefinitely, generating a high risk of abrupt exhaustion ("frying" or neurodivergent burnout).

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■ The Biological Price: The Demand for Cellular Fuel

Due to the analytical hyperawareness and parallel processing that never turn off, individuals in Pseudo-Flow often experience abrupt crash after a short period of high performance.

The brain depletes its energy reserves at an alarming rate, emitting immediate physical signals that break the state: an urgent need for glucose (an uncontrollable craving for sweets), frequent yawning, and sudden, heavy sleepiness. This is the biological machine forcing a safety shutdown to prevent a neuronal collapse.

● Why Does Science Ignore This State?

Clinical psychology and traditional psychiatry have historically operated from a deficit-based perspective, studying autism, ADHD, and giftedness in isolated boxes. ●

When non-specialized professionals evaluate a thrice-exceptional individual operating in Pseudo-Flow, they frequently make serious diagnostic errors. They misinterpret active metacognition as paranoia, the isolation of hyperfocus as schizoid traits, post-flow metabolic exhaustion as clinical depression, and the cold analytical speed of giftedness as psychopathy.

They separate phenomena individually, failing to realize that these traits are pieces of a puzzle. When all pieces fit together, they form a distinct neuroarchitectural image that is entirely different from the conditions viewed in isolation.

Pseudo-Flow is not a pathology; it is the apex of functional organization in a complex neuroarchitecture. Understanding its gears is the first step for thrice-exceptional individuals to use it intentionally and safely, learning to dose their own fuel before the body forces a blackout.

(Text co-authored with an AI, based entirely on my lived experiences and cognitive mapping).

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u/7h3EDestroyer — 8 days ago

Not finding pleasure in anything

I’ve always had issues relating with other people and could never find anything stimulating enough to hold my attention. My family always knew I had ADHD but I recently just got a formal diagnosis where they also told me I had autism and a high IQ. I’ve always been praised for my intelligence and everyone acts like it’s such a gift but I feel so completely empty 24/7. I recently saw a stat that said suicide in 2e individuals with autism is 6x higher than the general population and it answered so many questions. I started having these problems around 12 and life hasn’t gotten much better since. If you’ve seen the boys, I heavily relate with Sister Sage. Just this growing apathy and hatred for others. I’ve been getting better for a while but having moved to a new county and not having my friends, family, partner, or therapist around have opened the door for these feelings to come back. I guess I’m just curious if anyone else, specifically 2e persons with autism, feel this way and how do you deal with feeling like an alien incapable of connection or pleasure.

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u/ottomanhistoryfan — 7 days ago

Parent of a highly emotional 8 years old with 150 IQ who struggles with languages

Hi, i am a parent of a highly emotional, kind and smart child, who refuses to make friends outside of his home. His parents (us) are his only friends. I have the following questions -

  1. His IQ of 150+ suggests he is twice exceptional ? How is that defined ? What does it mean to be a parent of a child with high IQ?

  2. He has anxiety and shoes depressive tendencies, while we try our best to keep the house full of love and laughter, is it common ? Can it be genetic?

  3. Given his language reading and writing difficulties, we assumed he might be dyslexic but that was not captured in his learning disability assessment. What are we dealing with then?

  4. What are the possible international support ecosystem available for such kids?

  5. Are kids with high IQ likely to have a learning disability as well ?

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u/Richesbegins — 9 days ago

Searching for people

My Life Story

A little introduction.

A Just made a post and fell into bad Habits and lashed out.

TL;DR

I was a Bit of a dick all my Life because I felt like an extrem underachiever. Online Troll. But I am turning my Life around 180 in a speedrun. I never thought of myself as a Genius always as a loser. I was always good at everything and mastered nothing. I am changing my Life but still have self doubts. The Text ist a Bit messy because of my mind. I am searching for people who maybe expirienced the Same.

What I want to say in my awkward way is that I Had something like an awakening. I will try to explain it. I was always a angry Person. I argue with people online and Always get annoyed at people easily. But what I want to say is something positive.

I am starting so turn my Life 180 at the moment and I want to find people who went through the same. But its hard. I want to explain what I am going through and you can judge. Sorry it will be a Bit chaotic.

My mind is a any given moment of my Life going 200 I can Stop the thought for a few Seconds Up to a few minutes but it is incredibly overwehlming when I dont think. I notice every Detail. I never Had to learn for anything yet I made it to university where I dropped Out because I couldnt learn. I never knew how. I have a steady relationship even thought I am a Bit of a dick. I Love her and we are together for 12 years. I make a lot of Jokes and dumb comments but I never make them hurtfull and she luckily shares my Humor its a perfect Match. But I Unleashed online. I was basically a Hardcore Troll. But only in Games. Here I was just the annoying dick. But I havent done it in a while because I was busy. I created I Organisation System that fits me. I have Notebooks so I can physically Limit myself. 1 Page for a day 1 for a week. 1 Notebook per Project. My Chaos stopped. I can Work in parallel in several Projects. I am doing something for A and have a thought for B. Boom Switch notebooks. I can let my brain flow Out on paper. A physical limitation. I quit my Job recently and started a company. Its going pretty good so far. I luckily saved Up some Money because I Always was good with Money and grew Up pooras a Migrant.

But thats Not all. Thanks mostly to my girlfriend how is incredibly emotional I explored that Side to. I noticed behaviour patterns why I do Things. I started correcting them. I lashed out because I was frustrated and angry at the world. Imagine my Situation. Everyone Always told me how smart I am. As a Kid I got tested but it was for disability. I was incredibly Bad at German. I am a russian Migrant who Fell through the Cracks of the system. They Said I have a Reading disability but basically the posibility of hpi. But my parents could barely speak German and Nobody cared. So I never got the help I needed. I achieved a somewhat succesfull Life but in my head I always know everything. I understand everything at the First time. And because of the I am an incredibly perfectionist. If you never Had to learn for anything 80% of your Life you dont know how to learn. I am a Classic Jack of all trades, master of none. I tried an incredibly amount of Hobbys in my youth and was good at every single one. But I never mastered any. Because I hate Repetition. In my head I finished it. I know how it works. I Player guitar for a week and was decent. I knew all chords could Play a few simple Songs. But in my head I Had those incredibly songs which you can only achieve after years of Work and I dropped it. And now I am starting to learn how to do it. I changed my behaviour to Work in Things I want achieve. Ok you cant learn we Change to what you can. My brain craves Input at all Times. So I Set a Goal and than Go analytically through how I get there and what I need. I dont learn an entire profession like learning how to cook, I want to make this dish so what do I need for it. Knowledge build through Reputation.

And I know this Sounds Like a made it all Up and try to boast but I dont. My girlfriend is the polar opposit. She is the Classic deer in headlight Person. I am really sorry for how I often was a dick because she needed more time to react and for me Seconds feel like minutes. But I think that she is incredibly smart. So recently we started exploring how we think and why we do things and she has Bad metacognitivity. She needs to think what she does. One time she chased our dog who Ran on the street while having both hands full grocery. She never thought ahead to Put them down. I dont think she is any dumber than me. She has an incredible Work ethics and excells in the Things she does she Just needs longer to understand but thats Not her fault Like its Not my achievement that I can do what I do. I was born with it and I was an incredibly failure for 35 years of my Life because I never got a guide to my brain.

And basically every single aspect of my life is better. I share my thoughts with my girlfriend and am slowly opening Up. I was always very closed Up stoic Person. I am less annoyed at people because they dont know better. Some people are in the moment. I am way relaxter. I Switch between times for Work and when I turn of. But I Always have a Notebook for ideas to write them down. I Take creative Sessions without any form of digital Input. I started going on our terrace now since it got warmer. When its raining and I turn my head of its incredible. All the Input Sounds smells vision Feeling the rain.

This all happened over 2 month. And I feel really good. I am relaxed Things are going well the relationship is better but I still have so many self doubts. Failing at EVERYTHING I every tried for my Standards and now Feeling Like success I am afraid its going to collaps. There is always the voice you will fuck it Up one way.

If you have expirienced anything like that or know anyone that has please contact me.

And yes I am going to a shrink but I am searching for real Life expirience.

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u/Cr0ss0ver — 8 days ago

Waiting to be assessed (ADHD + Giftedness)

Hi!

46M here.

I was diagnosed with ADHD in 2018 (age 38). The diagnosis (and later, drug treatment) was a big relief and helped a lot with focus and follow-through.

As the years have gone on, I’ve started wondering whether I’m also “2e” in the gifted/ADHD sense, especially because once my ADHD was treated, I noticed I could concentrate longer, think more systematically, and solve problems more effectively than I expected. That shift has made me question whether I’ve been underestimating my strengths for most of my life.

I’m currently on a long waitlist for a formal assessment. In the meantime I took the Mensa test and landed at the 97th percentile, so I’m not treating that as “proof” of anything, but it did make me curious enough to pursue proper testing.

I’ve also read about autism and AuDHD, but I don’t strongly relate to many of the core autism traits (though I realize there’s overlap and masking, especially in adults).

Questions for those of you who figured out 2e later in life:

  1. After treating ADHD, did your “gifted/2e” traits become more obvious? What changed for you?
  2. Any suggestions on how to describe this clearly to an assessor so they don’t dismiss it as “just ADHD” (or, conversely, miss the ADHD because of strengths)?
  3. What measures helped you in your day to day for coping with your ADHD and your giftedness in order not to become burned out.

Thanks for reading.

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u/urself25 — 8 days ago

What do you struggle with?

Until now I've been dedicating part of my time to Neurodivergence and ADHD, but I'm planning to focus on 2e for a while. I especially like researching about:

· How metabolic health (keto, electrolytes, gut-brain axis) affects 2e mood, focus, and RSD

· The hidden systemic structures that exhaust us (corporate, legal, family)

· Practical self-defense strategies for burnout, rejection sensitivity, and energy regulation

I would like to know what are your biggest struggles.

I'll research about the topics and share actionable strategies. I will inform content, not therapy. There is no secret agenda. What I find out I will share because it also helps myself.

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u/NoorLung — 11 days ago

Brain Dump. Am I 2E?

27(M). Here are my traits, my strengths and challenges. I went through depression and therapy at the age 24. I just know my IQ score, from the test WAIS IV, not any other diagnosis. I consider myself too average to be special and too weird to be normal. I can and cannot relate to a lot of labels/categories and don’t know how to tackle down my life projects nor how to improve my daily life and discipline. Advices, support, comments, answers and questions are what I will avidly read and be expecting. Thank you in advance.

Neurodiversity:

Internalised Adhd (ADD)??

  • daydreaming
  • shy kid
  • raised by women and relating way more often to women, have had more female friends
  • endless rush of thoughts/ questions (with the right people)
  • unable to get angry
  • very patient
  • doodled in class
  • emotional damage (hyperempathy, hyperemotionality)
  • unable to limit myself when left on my own

Giftedness:

  • easily got good grades in school until my 15s
  • 10 minutes cram periods before exams in high school proved to be enough
  • very good memory, especially of emotionally important events (up to 25 years ago)
  • analytical thinking and love puzzles, complexity in many topics (philosophy, religion, maths, physics, languages)
  • IQ of 140 with discrepancies VCI 141 PRI 140 WMI 117 PSI 120 and each of these subtests were with various results ranging from 11 to 18 in exercices
  • gives good advice to people or good at reading them
  • unmotivated by success in career or money
  • love sarcasm, dark humor, refined jokes and 3rd degree humor

Social challenges:

  • difficulty to understand or feel the right timing for jokes, commentaries or no filter on some thoughts???
  • had no friends other than my brother and a neighbour until I was 13
  • never stuck in groups of friends
  • difficulty to be a friend to my friends

Other challenges:

  • being on time
  • taking notes from a listening class (or powerpoint)
  • reviewing class contents, study in a library or at home
  • lost interest/hope in many of my childhood dreams
  • learn lyrics without reading them multiple times(very hard)
  • watch a movie or series I watched 15 years ago
  • function without dopamine (girlfriend and friends Number 1 healthy dopamine source, then comes cheap dopamine)
  • low self esteem
  • organise/plan my week/day
  • start activities/tasks, especially if only impacting myself

Side notes:

  • I hate hearing to “be a man”
  • what is Body Doubling?
  • sorry about my imperfect english
  • I currently live in Germany and don’t know if I could study a bachelor
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u/A_Swiss_Dude — 11 days ago

r/Twiceexceptional feels like home

This might sound a bit tacky but I really appreciate this community, whenever I have had any questions you were the ones that never failed to give a thoughtful unbiased answer, and for that I wanna say thank you.

It honestly feels like I finally found my crowd, and I don't have to worry about you guys taking basic questions the wrong way, or using cheap ad hominems to socially punish me for a misinterpreted slight when I'm just being curious.

I don't know if it is the intelligence or what not, but you guys seem way more human than many other groups I have met.

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u/TheWholesomeOtter — 11 days ago