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Using 17.5K Atmos vs 22K BA

Trying to get the group thought on this.

I have 470K Atmos in my account as well as BILT Palladium with 190K points and BILT Platinum and I also have Alaska Summit card.

I also have 176K BA (from the Kate Spade deal, got them for $705 of stuff we bought) as well as > 1.5 million in both Amex and Chase each, so easier to top off.

I’m saving AA flights to Hawaii for Spring Break next year from California. I found several dates with saver Y space, Alaska is 17.5K but I have Summit so no partner fee and fully refundable. However I’m very protective of Alaska miles.

BA is 22K and if I cancel I lose the $5.60 but honestly not that big a deal.

Cash prices right now are $885 a person so Alaska would be close to 2.5cpp while BA would be around 2cpp.

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u/pointstopointb — 24 hours ago

Is 68,000 Atmos Rewards points round trip from JFK to Hong Kong a good redemption?

I recently booked a round-trip economy ticket from JFK to Hong Kong on Cathay Pacific through the Atmos Rewards Global Getaway promotion.
Both flights are nonstop, and the entire round trip cost 68,000 Atmos Rewards points plus taxes and fees. This will be my first time redeeming points for a long-haul international flight.
For those familiar with Atmos Rewards or award travel, would you consider this a good redemption? How does it compare with other ways I could have used 68,000 Atmos points?
I’m happy with the booking either way, but I’m curious how more experienced points travelers would evaluate it.

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u/coolkid876890 — 1 day ago

PSA - Avianca is awesome! Plus Remember to shop around before paying ridiculous amount of miles/dollars.

I wanted to book a last-minute flight to a destination in Northern BC, Canada, from Vancouver, and Air Canada wanted me to pay CA$1,621 for it, or about 91K miles + taxes and fees. I was able to book these exact same flights with United for 35K miles and US$26 in taxes and fees. If I had Avianca miles, this redemption would have cost me 12K miles + taxes and fees!

https://imgur.com/a/6aJh4Ht

u/Gnadev — 1 day ago

Citi TYP or Amex MR? Flyingblue transfer

Planning a trip next month - found availability for one-way for about 130k in J. Tempted to wait to see if the price drops as the date gets closer. But Citi right now has a 20% promo, making the transfer closer to 100k + what I already have in my account. Buuuut, I have a ton more AMEX points (almost 200k vs 100k).

Anyone have any wisdom on which transfer is preferred? I would assume it is best to transfer Citi, but also worried it may take a while since I have never done a TYP -> FB, but have done it for AMEX.

Still annoyed the flight is soon and prices remain sky high. I saw a flight to AMS for 500k, ridiculous.

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u/cronaldo7 — 1 day ago

Qatar deducting avios almost a year later, after flight

Just wanted to add a data point for future searches. I posted the following several months ago:

"Complicated, but:
in the process of waiting for my account to unlock so that i could transfer avios (that were transferred to me from my husband) from BA to QR (what is it, 10d waiting period now?), i realized my flexfare flights nbo-iad were gone. Panicked, because i already have 2 pax on the flight, so I booked 2 econ fares nbo-doh-iad.
Then it hit me that maybe just the doh-iad leg was available in J, and i looked... and there it was. So i cancelled the previous booking, did the chat function to get my avios back quickly, and then booked the doh-iad legs in J with plans to pay cash for nbo-doh and hopefully upgrade with avios later.
When I booked doh-iad, even though 78k of the avios were still in my BA acct, it let me pay with those, somehow. Just paid taxes.
taxes have been charged to my card. Tickets have been issued. Receipts in email. I selected seats and have ticket numbers.
all 300k of my avios are still there.
Do I have seats?"

Update today:

The points were never deducted, and we flew the flights last week with no issue. this morning, QA calls me to demand i transfer avios from my BA account because I owe them 280k. I asked "what would you have done if i did not have the avios to pay for a flight i've already taken?" and she refused to give me an answer.

Guess I'm glad I never found another use for those points. Just wanted to post this here in case anyone else thinks theyve gotten lucky and not had their avios deducted

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u/dbsummers — 1 day ago

Pretty decent SEA to ATH/CDG business class availability on Alaska/AA

Alaska just opened up two new routes next summer in 2027. Flights are from May to August

Alaska awards are 95k. AA is 57.5k miles.

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u/omdongi — 1 day ago

Help me choose: United vs. Ethiopian to Cape Town (Solo 30s Female, Award Booking)

Hi everyone,

I am a solo female traveler in my 30s booking a trip from Atlanta (ATL) to Cape Town (CPT) for late September. I am using United MileagePlus miles (49,500 miles for either option), and both routes have virtually identical total travel times and costs.
I travel with a carry-on only, so I am not worried about checked baggage or domestic bag transfers. I have Amex MR points and Avios as well, but couldn't find any alternative routes with decent award availability or arrival times (so annoyed Qatar doesn't fly out of ATL anymore).

I am completely torn between these two options:
Option 1: JetBlue + United+ South African
Route: ATL > EWR (JetBlue) > JNB (United) > CPT (SAA)

Total Time: 27 hours, 20 minutes

Cape Town Arrival Time: 11:38 PM

Pros/Cons: I love the idea of flying United because it's an airline I am highly familiar with for such a long journey. However, the 11:38 PM arrival time in Cape Town scares me. Even though I plan to arrange a private hotel shuttle pickup, landing past midnight makes me incredibly uneasy based on what I’ve read about the roadways at night in Capetown. I’ve done late arrivals into Delhi and Cairo before, but this seems significantly more risky.

Option 2: United + Ethiopian Airlines
Route: ATL > IAD (United) > ADD (Ethiopian) > CPT (Ethiopian)

Total Time: 26 hours, 30 minutes

Cape Town Arrival Time: 2:00 PM

Pros/Cons: The 2:00 PM arrival time is vastly superior and feels much safer for a solo traveler. However, I have never flown Ethiopian Airlines before. The idea of flying an unfamiliar carrier for an ultra-long-haul journey makes me a bit hesitant, and I've read mixed reviews about the transit security lines at Addis Ababa (ADD).

Given that I am traveling solo, carry-on only, and have hotel transport arranged for Cape Town:
For those who know Cape Town, is an 11:38 PM arrival with a pre-arranged hotel shuttle actually a safety issue, or am I overthinking the anxiety?

For those who have flown Ethiopian, did you feel confident they would handle things like missed connections or flight cancellations well?

Which route would you choose in my shoes? Thanks in advance!

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u/throwaway7845777 — 2 days ago

Saw a good deal (I think) and booked it. Wondering now if I got decent value for my points.

Hi,

I am very new to collecting airline points and this is my first booking using points.

I have booked the following: 2 x return/round-trip economy flights from UK to Caribbean (via Amsterdam)

Flights were booked using Virgin Reward points but flights are operated by KLM.

Total cost for return/round-trip flights for 2 adults: 56,000 points and £442 taxes. The cash price for the same flights would be £2352 total.

I am happy with my booking but have since read that using points for long haul economy flights is often really poor value. Just wondering if anyone has any insight into whether I got a good deal, just so I know for if I see similar offers in future.

Thanks!

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u/PettyBots — 1 day ago

Success Story and a Quick Question

Lurked on this sub for time and have learned a lot, so figured I'd share a success story.

I've been a casual in the game for about 15 years, having made about ~6 international redemptions up front. So a reasonable level of baseline knowledge, but not nearly as much as the pros.

My girlfriend has a three week sabbatical over the back half of December and into January. She's heading to Oceania. I, as a lowly bartender, most certainly do not have three weeks, paid or otherwise, lol. I do have some American and UR miles so I set about finding a way to to meet her in Melbourne. After some time searching, likely sub-optimal routes/strategy, I signed up for the paid version of points.aero and was able to, by pure luck, find a flight out of Houston (via DFW) to Melbourne in business for 80K Aadvantage miles on Qantas. The routing isn't great, but I don't mind. I'll have to reposition from Chicago to Houston, then fly from Houston to DFW, layover overnight, then direct to MEL.

Current itinerary is:

December 25th - Work 11 hours bartending, Late flight to reposition to Houston, find cheap hotel

December 26th - AA3848 IAH to DFW, 8:18pm - 9:49pm

December 27th - QF22 DFW to MEL, 6:25pm - 5am (+2)

My question is, is it possible to remove to the Houston to DFW leg. Naturally I'd just rather reposition to Dallas and save myself a late night Christmas Day flight and night in Houston. I'm calling to see what their customer support says, typing this up to kill time while waiting the queue lol.

Even if I can't I'm still pretty thrilled to have found a business class seat to that part of the world during that time of the year. It appears the flight is nearly 18 hours!

We'll be departing MEL for Paris on January 3rd, and found two seats with Q Suites on Qatar. Spend a few days there, she'll fly home, and I'll likely tool around a bit and end in a city that has a direct flight back to Chicago. That notion is exciting in it's own right as I haven't been to Europe since pre-pandemic times. Maybe take the train to Edinburgh or Munich, or shoot over to Dublin, so many options!! Even a paid economy seat back to Chicago will be no issue at all after those long-hauls.

No real point to this longwinded post other than to say, for the casuals out there like me, hold out hope and use the tools that are available to us, there are still deals to be had for the vigilant!

Thanks to this sub for increasing my knowledge and sharing anecdotal stories over the years.

u/chicagomike83 — 1 day ago

Best Airline Upgrade Rates?

I have to fly to Paris for work. The company is only paying for economy.

I’m fine to upgrade myself with points or cash. Who typically has the best upgrade options in terms of
cost? I’ve found that upgrades on KLM are typically cheaper than Delta. Is the same true for AirFrance?

Preference for a nonstop between JFK/EWR and CDG but willing to lay over if it means that I’ll have batter upgrade rate.

Thanks for your help!

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u/Impressive-Big-9788 — 1 day ago

JetBlue Frequent Flyer Program Scam

Before you say this is the norm, I will preface with absolute certainty that this is not the case when I’ve flown on other airlines and done the same.

This has happened every time without fail for the past 5 years when I’ve flown JetBlue. I fly JetBlue and want to credit the miles to a different program. It is impossible if you have an existing JetBlue account. I am certain that I have never entered my JetBlue number at any point for any of these bookings. However, either the phone number and/or email used to book are the same as the one on my JetBlue account. There is not much I can do, some people don’t have access to multiple phone numbers or emails. That permanently connects the booking to your JetBlue account. I have screenshots from “manage booking” showing a different airline’s frequent flyer program. I have screenshots of chat with support (before flying) confirming that there is no sign of my JetBlue account anywhere in my booking. All of this and EVERY TIME, it is still credited to TrueBlue. It is almost impossible to get it reversed and takes half a year.

Delta, China Southern, America, Alaska, China Eastern, ANA, Saudia, Qatar Airways, Virgin Atlantic, Air France, just to name a few. None have this problem. Please don’t accept this as the norm. I see this as a dishonest business practice. Honestly, the only solutions are deleting my JetBlue account and/or never flying JetBlue again.

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u/ePlayablez — 1 day ago

LAX to Paris CDG: Delta One or Air France Business class

Deciding between Delta one from LAX to Paris for 106k skymiles + $6 or Air France 60k miles + $293 taxes/fees.

Air France: 777-300 (not the a350)
Delta: A350-900

Lax has the delta one lounge and i can obtain platinum status.

Edit:
Booked Delta One on the a350 since i already had enough skymiles there.

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u/BD-Energy01 — 2 days ago
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Flying Blue Reward Redemption Glitch

Hi guys!

Does anyone get luck booking award flights through AirFrance? This has been a nightmare for me. I saw on Air France they had availability for a specific flight I have been wanting. I transferred points from AMEX to flying blue and right as I was checking out on Air France the website crashes. Once I reload, the flight is no longer available. Same thing happened again today and as soon I saw the flight available, I called AirFrance and they tell me the flight is no longer available. I took screenshots of everything I saw on my end. Anyone have suggestions on what to do? I refuse to book through them again but I have a bunch of points already transferred and dont want to waste it. UGH.

Thank you!

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u/jthomas2018 — 2 days ago

LAX to CDG Air France Business

I’m looking to fly business class for the first time to Paris sometime around May. I’m seeing Air France business class awards going for around 250k Flying Blue points one way. Is this pretty typical? I thought I saw significantly cheaper redemptions in different posts. I’m wondering if this is about as cheap as it gets

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u/TheMVLi — 2 days ago

ewr to mex july

Looking for advice. I’m finding round trip economy tickets Ewr to Mex for 3 people (1 adult 2 kids) for 62,500 points and 642usd. The flight is booked through Air France on Aeromexico. I am showing a cash price in eco my on United for 2500. Delta seems to have flights too but I don’t have delta rewards. My friend is advising me to wait for placeholder fares to drop for July travel. I think I found a good deal. Can anyone advise? Thanks!

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u/ipaglynner — 1 day ago

How to figure out necessary Krisflyer miles

Hi. Can anyone help me figure out how many miles it will cost to book a flight on Singapore airlines for my honeymoon. I’m considering transferring my credit card points to Krisflyer miles but of course need to know the points necessary for the ticket before I do so. The Singapore airlines site won’t even let me view award flights with a current mile balance of 0.

Flight would be PDX to BKK on December 7th. The option I’m most keen on (and based on dollar price is cheapest) is PDX-SFO-SIN-BKK.

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u/Alive_Ad_6200 — 2 days ago

Alaska awards blocked on LHR to JFK?

I was recently searching for some Alaska awards between LHR to JFK, but upon looking, basically there are zero award fares being made available for the entire calendar year.

While I understand that awards are contingent upon partner availability, every other US route like BOS/PHL/CLT, etc. still has awards. And what stands out is that you can still route via JFK to these other US destinations.

Second, it seems to be partner agnostic, it would make sense if it was just BA or just AA, but basically no European airline has partner availability in any class whether it's BA/AA/AY/EL/IB etc.

If you search NYC area airports, you'll get routing to EWR only, not even LGA.

Not sure if this is something going on in the back-end, or if Alaska has some kind of block on LHR to JFK.

Crosspost for images

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u/srekai — 2 days ago

Is AEROPLAN Lufthansa bookings dead?

I have been watching Lufthansa booking and availing for the past 6 or so months and I noticed a huge chance in the last month or so. Using seats.aero I see 1 flight with 4 or more business class seats for the entire month of May and June of 2027 when I look for the entire east coast to any Europe destination.

Typically Lufthansa business was released about 290 days out to Aeroplan. I’m seeing only 4 options with 2 seats and almost no 4+ seats opening up for summer 2027.

If I change the dates to cover April (which I assume is Spring break season) I see 271 options for April which is why I’m alarmed.

Do we think this is the deval and evolution of Lufthansa or is this just them not releasing their 2027 Summer schedule fully yet??

Thanks trying to make some decisions and unsure if I should consider this path to Europe dead for 2027.

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u/Slow-Bunch-2584 — 2 days ago