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Thank you for your help! Mental fatigue questionnaire study update — how the scale was put together and what this round is doing
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Thank you for your help! Mental fatigue questionnaire study update — how the scale was put together and what this round is doing

Last month I posted here recruiting for my PhD study developing an acute and chronic scale measuring mental fatigue in sport. First off, I want to say a big thank you to everyone who took the time to fill it out. The responses have been brilliant and a few of the comments made me see the problem through a different lens, especially as my background is in climbing and weightlifting so seeing it from a runners perspective was really helpful. A few people also asked how the questionnaire was put together and what this round is doing, and I should have laid that out from the start. Full references are in a separate comment below.

Where the items came from

The scale is being developed following Boateng et al.'s (2018) framework for scale development, which is a detailed primer explaining how to develop and validate scales in behavioural and health science. The starting point was a wide search of the literature. I pulled items from two main sources: 16 measures of mental fatigue and mental load used in the general adult population (identified through Diaz-Garcia et al.'s 2021 systematic review), and 19 measures used in sport-specific contexts (identified through my own systematic scoping review of mental fatigue and mental load measurement tools in sport. I am looking to publish this soon). On top of that I added items developed from my readings of six papers that describe how athletes experience mental fatigue and what drives it (Van Cutsem et al., 2017; Martin et al., 2018; Pattyn et al., 2018; Russell et al., 2019; Gantois et al., 2020; Habay et al., 2021). That gave me a pool of 462 items.

Those 462 items went through a deductive thematic analysis (Braun & Clarke, 2006) at the latent level to identify the underlying domains, which reduced the pool to 105 items. During a team review with my supervisors, it became clear there were two distinct constructs that needed separating: acute mental fatigue (the momentary state right now, before or after a session) and chronic mental fatigue (the longer pattern that builds over weeks and months). The five themes that came out of the analysis were inputs contributing to mental fatigue, motivation, perception of effort, decisional balance, and the influence of mental fatigue on behaviour.

Expert review with subject matter experts

The next step was getting six subject matter experts to review every item. The panel was deliberately mixed: researchers in mental fatigue, an exercise physiologist, a cognition specialist, someone with scale development expertise, a professional coach, and an athlete as end-users. Putting athletes on the panel was important, because items that make perfect sense to experts can land badly when you try to use them in a training context. Each item was rated on appropriateness, representativeness, and clarity using Hardesty and Bearden's (2004) sum-score decision rule, and items that didn't make the cut got removed. Some items were reworded based on expert feedback (for example, "tiredness" was changed to "fatigue" across several items to keep the construct clean). That process left 43 items for acute and 51 for chronic, which is what's currently being distributed.

What this round is doing

This round is about dimensionality and item reduction phase. The data from everyone who fills it in goes into an exploratory factor analysis, which takes that wide item pool and works out which items group together and load cleanly onto meaningful factors, then cuts the ones that don't. The finalised scale is a much shorter and captures the underlying structure without the redundancy. The goal is well under 20 items total across both acute and chronic. Although I am at the mercy of the analysis as to what the final number will be.

As such the current length isn't an accident. Starting wide and cutting based on real participant data is the only way to do this properly. But I'm fully aware that it makes the experience heavier than the final tool will be, and that's a trade-off I'm asking participants to accept to achieve high rigour.

I received feedback that some items felt unclear or hard to map onto their own experience. I want to be upfront that this is useful information. Items that don't sit naturally with athletes tend to be exactly the ones that don't load cleanly in factor analysis. So, they should be removed through this process naturally.

What comes after

Once the analysis is complete and the scale is reduced, there's one more round after this focused on validation, looking at concurrent validity (does the new scale correlate with established measures of mental fatigue) and test-retest reliability (does it produce stable results across time). I'll be writing this round up as a paper either way, and I'll come back here with a summary including which items survived and what the final scale looks like. Happy to answer questions in the comments on the methodology or mental fatigue research in general too.

For anyone who hasn't filled it in yet, the link is below. It takes 10-15 minutes to complete and will help us get 1 step closer to understanding how work impacts the sport we love.

https://derby.questionpro.eu/t/AB3vCJoZB3waVr

Cheers.

Cam

u/Same_Row_761 — 6 hours ago

HWPO firefighter

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if any fellow first responders could give me some advice.
I’m a firefighter, and I’ve been following HWPO (Strong and BB) for quite a while. However, I feel like I’m drifting away from the kind of functional training that’s most relevant to the demands of the job.
I’ve considered Flagship, but personally I find there are too many highly technical movements that I don’t enjoy as much.
What are you all doing for your training? Are there any programs you’d recommend that balance strength, conditioning, and job-specific fitness?
Thanks!

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u/Head_Chemistry_3135 — 6 hours ago

Hyrox

So I’m semi-training for a hyrox race in September and set out to get as far as I could in 1 hour. Managed 5/8 of the workouts (didnt manage sled pull, burpees, and walking lunges). Kept a rough pace of about 5:15/km on the run but lost some time setting up each station because I was at a public gym.

All in all it’s not bad, it’s my first time doing solo race style workouts. I usually do CrossFit at a box that follows official CrossFit programming.

My somewhat lukewarm take is that honestly the workout is kinda boring. It’s a pretty serious grind without much stimulation or excitement. I totally get that the 8 workouts are chosen because they’re very accessible and mostly don’t require much technique (unlike BMUs or any OLY lifts) but I found the workout really hard mostly because it was just a massive slog.

I can’t fault hyrox for drumming up support and getting a lot of people interested in CrossFit adjacent workouts but I really didn’t like it. Interested to hear if there’s any hot tips on how to make it a little more engaging from the community.

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u/Icy-Comfortable-714 — 9 hours ago

How do you keep track of your workouts on paper, or how do you stay organized?

I moved and now have a new CrossFit box. My new box uses “Resa WOD”. While you can log your workouts there, you can’t really analyze your progress with it.

At my old CrossFit box, we used “Beyond the Whiteboard” (btwb). That actually let you analyze the data—meaning the app showed me my personal bests (PRs). For many workouts at my new box, the weight is specified as a percentage of your personal best. Right now, though, I don’t know what my personal bests are.

I’ve started writing down my workouts and results in a notebook. Unfortunately, my data isn't organized very well, so I can't really draw any conclusions from it.

What does your system for analyzing the data look like? Could you please briefly explain how you go about it? I'd like to use a system like that too, but unfortunately I don't know how.

Thank you very much for the inspiration!

u/Noclue4765 — 13 hours ago

Suggestions on how to tackle team comp event?

I’ve a team competition coming up and we’re taking part as a team of 4! Wanted to source suggestions on how to tackle this event, open to hearing strategies on pairing and what not. Thank you!

Time cap: 16 mins
Buy in: 20 synchro burpee bar touch (all athletes)

Then, event is broken up into 2 parts that run concurrently.

Part 1: 170cal Ski for time

Part2: 3 rounds for time
30 partner wallballs (20lbs)
30 synchro single arm DB Hang Snatch (45lbs)
15 synchro burpee bar touch
15 synchro single arm DB thruster (45 lbs)
10 TTB (just one athlete)

What would be the most efficient way to tackle this? During training we tried one pair on the ski and one pair on Part 2, and swapping pairs once one round was done but it was extremely tiring for the non-skiing pair and we got time capped with one round to go.

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u/CrossfittJesus — 17 hours ago

Crossfit

Una domanda stupida (sicuramente lo è), ma come si fa a capire di essere pronte a passare dalla sala pesi al crossfit (a me piacerebbe imparare a fare gli snatch ad esempio). Devo basarmi sul peso che alzo? È chiaro che teoricamente potrebbe iniziare chiunque, ma penso ci siano dei parametri da tenere in considerazione. Allo stato attuale mi alleno da 7mesi in modo continuo, alzando carichi discreti (squat con bilanciere 30kg, hip thrust 50kg, e stacchi 30kg sempre con il bilanciere). Sono carichi che potrebbero bastare o devo aspettare di aumentarli? (Prima di iniziare con il crossfit o powerlifting in generale magari)

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u/brevibloc93 — 1 day ago
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Coach yelled in my face today.

I’m an older female, he’s a very young guy. I pushed back on his interpretation of a workout (we have issues with the app we use and unfortunately quite often things are open for interpretation). Anyway, I made a small movement modification during the WOD which caused him to storm up to me, get an inch from my ear and yell, “I’M THE COACH!”. I kept my cool in the moment, but I’d be lying if I said it didn’t rattle me a bit.

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u/catmath_2020 — 2 days ago
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The 1776 Challenge Part II Electric Boogaloo

Hey all, I’m back again this year with the 1776 Workout Challenge. Here’s my previous post https://www.reddit.com/r/Pararescue/s/8auA1AkFpg

I got a ton of feedback last year, both positive and negative, from the communities I posted this in, and I wanted to build on a lot of those ideas.

First, I wanted this challenge to do something beyond just giving me rhabdo (ha ha). Since the Challenge is inspired by various US SOF selection processes, this year I set up a GoFundMe to raise money directly for the Pararescue Foundation. One of my long-term goals has always been to turn this into something that gives back to active service members and veterans. Hopefully one day I can build it into its own charity if this continues to grow beyond a bunch of dudes doing insane workouts between chugging PBRs. For now, at least I can put breaking my body to good use instead of just doing it for the sport of it.

The second thing I wanted to address was the workout itself.

A lot of you lovingly nicknamed it “The Rhabdo Challenge,” so I came up with a second version that’s still difficult but a little more realistic and doesn’t just kick your ass for 10 hours straight.

The original workout is still there for anyone who wants to attempt it at their own risk, but here’s the new “1776” version:

1 - One Mile Swim

7- Four Mile Run + Three Mile Ruck with 45LBS

7 - Seven Rounds of Six Exercises

10 pull-ups
10 Four Count Iron Mikes (5 on each side)
20 push-ups
20 sit-ups
20 squats
5 Navy Seals

I can’t take all the credit for this variation. One of my buddies who’s currently serving suggested the format, and I thought it was a great way to make the challenge more accessible without making it easy.

If you like what I’m doing, there are a few ways you can support it.

First and foremost, you can donate to the GoFundMe. Every dollar goes directly to the Pararescue Foundation.

You can also follow the 1776 social media pages and share the challenge with your friends, family, or anyone you think would be interested.

I also have a website with some 1776 merch. I’ll be donating the majority of any money from merch sales to the Pararescue Foundation. I’m not doing this to make money. Everything is self-funded, and anything that’s left over just helps keep the website running and hopefully grows this into something much bigger down the road.

My goal is to eventually turn this into a yearly event where people can come out, compete, and raise money for a great cause.

As a side note, if you’d like to support me personally, I’m also a professional musician. I’ve spent most of my life playing and writing music. If you need some heavy metal to get you through one of these workouts, check out my bands, White Wizzard and Crypterion.

Every bit of support helps, whether it’s sharing the challenge, donating, or checking out the music. It all helps me dedicate more time to making the 1776 Challenge into something bigger.

One last thing: use some common sense. Know your limits, stay hydrated, and don’t be afraid to scale or stop if you need to. This challenge is meant to push you, not put you in the hospital. Participate at your own risk.

Thanks again, everyone

Happy Fourth of July!

https://gofund.me/62d2d7ef0 - GoFundMe for PJ Foundation

https://www.the1776challenge.com

https://www.instagram.com/the1776challenge?utm_source=qr

https://www.instagram.com/whitewizzardtheband/

https://www.instagram.com/crypterion_ny/

https://www.instagram.com/justingoldat

u/JustinG13 — 2 days ago

Ahmat sit-ups mess up my buttcrack

Something about my anatomy makes my buttcrack rub when I do abmat sit-ups. It gets real bad real quick. Am I the only one?

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u/nappytappy — 2 days ago

Should they fit like this?

Victory 2 hole grips - size small. The Velcro strap has a long piece that hangs out. It’s annoying.

u/Overall-Nobody8933 — 2 days ago

How Many Days a Week Do You Train?

Week 2 of my intro to CrossFit is wrapping up and I absolutely love it. I feel super accomplished after my workouts and like I actually worked out. The only thing I’m having trouble with is determining how many days a week we should train? I know it’s all person dependent, but what is the “best”weekly frequency? Also after each Metcon I do accessory work which consists of 2 exercises of 2 sets of an isolation movement like a core exercise and something related to the movement of the day. Let me know what yall think!

As of now, I’m doing:

Monday
Strength Portion:
Squat (5x5; with weekly progressions)

Metcon: Girls: Fran
- 21-15-9
- Thrusters
- Pull-ups

Tuesday
Strength Portion:
Strict Press (5x5; with weekly progressions)

Girls Metcon: Cindy
- 20 min AMRAP
- 5 pull-ups
- 10 push-ups
- 15 air squats

Wednesday
Strength Portion:
Power Clean + Front Squat (5 sets of 1 power clean + 3 front squats)

Girls Metcon: Grace
- 30 clean and jerks for time

Thursday - REST

Friday
Strength Portion:
Deadlift (5x3; weekly progressions)

Girls Metcon: Diane
- 21-15-9
- Deadlifts
- Handstand push-ups

Saturday:
Strength: Push Jerk (5x3; weekly progressions)

Girls Metcon: Helen
- 3 rounds for time
- 400m run
- 21 kettlebell swings
- 12 pull-ups

Sunday: REST

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u/BeefCakes_02 — 3 days ago

What your weekly training plan look like? Just curious to see how people train

Here’s mine currently

M: CrossFit Class + Hatch Squat/Strength
T: Run Intervals
W: CrossFit Class
T: rest day
F: Hatch Squat/Strength
S: Aerobic run (5-10km)
S: Free day (Work on weaknesses or do a hybrid/hyrox class)

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u/Stobbart2327 — 3 days ago

What are the best CrossFit shoes if you train 4-5 days a week?

I’ve been using regular running shoes for CrossFit, and I’m starting to think that might be part of the problem. They feel fine for short runs, but once there’s lifting, box jumps, burpees, rope climbs, or anything side-to-side, they start feeling way too soft and unstable.

I’m not competing or anything, just trying to train consistently without my feet feeling beat up. I’d like something stable enough for lifting, comfortable enough for metcons, and not completely awful if there’s a short run in the workout.

Every pair I look at has mixed reviews. Some people swear by them, some say they’re too narrow, too stiff, or fall apart after a few months.

If you were buying CrossFit shoes today with your own money, what would you get? I’d especially like to hear from people who’ve used the same pair for a while, not just first impressions.

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u/Educational-Cow-2544 — 3 days ago

Hang cleans and lower back tightness: form issue or just overtraining?

Hey community,

A bit of a specific question for anyone who has dealt with this: lately, whenever hang cleans come up in the WOD, my lower back gets incredibly tight and aggravated.

I’m trying to figure out if I’m just hitting a wall with overtraining, or if my form is breaking down when I catch the bar. I try to keep my core tight, but by round 3 or 4, it feels like my lower back is doing all the heavy lifting.

Has anyone else dealt with lower back fatigue specifically on hang cleans?

What cues or scaling options helped you protect your back while keeping the intensity up?

Appreciate any tips, form advice, or recovery stretches you guys swear by.

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u/Jordan_Brooks — 2 days ago

Rogue echo bike. Lower back tightness

It seems after a few sessions even with the seat adjusted to the correct height and distance .. my lower back gets super tight and sketchy feeling.. anyone else? Is there some weakness I need to address?

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u/jewmoney808 — 2 days ago

Shoes for rope climb

I have done some rope climbs in the INOV8

I usually wear minimalist shoes so that was great, but I found that they are a bit too thin 😬

What do you recommend as a CrossFit shoe that is good for rope climbs?
I prefer them with a wide toe box, not necessarily minimalist:)

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u/Salad-with-gainzzzz — 3 days ago

Handstand walk

What helped unlock your handstand walk ?

This is my next skill I want to learn

How long did it take to learn?

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u/Hot-Ad-7655 — 3 days ago

Linchpin programming questions

I posted in here about a couple of days ago about switching my focus up from being a run and lift only type of athlete over to something with a little more variety. A number of the recommendations were for Linchpin, which looks awesome but may need a bit of tweaking on my part.

A couple of questions for those that do it:

  1. I'm wanting to get stronger as well as just doing metcons. Are there strength days programmed in?

  2. I'm also wanting to keep my endurance up (I've got a sprint duathlon with my son at the end of September, but that's easy right now). What provisions are there for running/cycling? How are you all scheduling around that?

  3. Where is the community located? Facebook, Circle, Discord, or something else?

TIA!

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u/chinomage83 — 3 days ago

What's the best air bike if you actually plan to use it more than once a week?

I've been thinking about adding an air bike to my home gym because I want something for conditioning that doesn't beat up my knees. The problem is they're not exactly cheap, so I'd rather buy once than regret it later.

This would mostly be for interval training, warm-ups, and the occasional workout when I don't feel like leaving the house. I don't need a screen with a million features, but I do want something that feels solid, pedals smoothly, and can handle regular use without needing constant maintenance.

I've seen a few models recommended over and over, but it's hard to tell which ones are genuinely built to last and which are just popular because of marketing.

If you own an air bike, which one did you end up buying? Has it held up well, and if you had to start over today, would you buy the same one again?

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u/Repulsive_Corgi_6187 — 3 days ago