r/plural

I've never really heard any other systems talking about this, but to our knowledge we have only ever had one fictive ever, the source was deliberately focused on and studied prior to forming as a fictive, was only active for a few months, and never fronted. Its just not something that really occurs in our system. Are there a lot of systems out there that just don't typically form fictives, or really introjects in general? My gatekeeper is sort of an introject, based in someone fron early childhood that we arent sure was ever real and changed from the source over the decades, aging with us and independently becoming their own identity, but that's about it for introjects really.

Yeah that’s pretty much self explanatory? Just wanted to know if there was a separate term.

Gabby- Hi, I'm a newly formed fictive in the system from gachiakuta. Most of my fictives take on different names than their source and deviate heavily from the source character. Do y'all tend to stick with your source or are your fictives more divergent?

Hello!! I’m Gustis! We’ve been wanting to get diagnosed with OSDD (what we think we have) and we don’t really know how.

We are soon getting therapy for other things like our PTSD and addiction. Also we’ve brought it up to a therapist before. I want to get a diagnosis to help with therapy, and for people to finally believe me.

Healthcare professionals have had said i have psychosis, or that it’s my meds that causes this. But no matter what new meds I get put on, or what therapy I get. We are here.

If you could please share how y’all got diagnosed or not diagnosed, please let me know!

-Gustis 👀

I’m trying to intentionally create a headmate, and I’m pretty sure I wanna do willomancy, but I don’t exactly know the differences between the three. What are they? And, do you have any tips for successful creation?

Due to recent events (we checked our grades and they were... less than optimal), I was pushed out of front for the first time ever. And during that week, Opal, the headmate in charge of maintaining our grades (no hate to her btw, she's the only reason our life hasn't fallen apart entirely) took over front and she pushed us way too hard. We barely slept, we barely spoke to anyone, we skipped meals, all our energy was put towards getting our grades up. Eventually, she leaves front, and while our grades are back up, we've also lost 5 pounds and our energy is just GONE. And we remember NONE of what happened last week, aside from a few bits and pieces. That was SO scary.

- Helix

Also how can I prevent this from happening in the future? This will definetly not be the last time our grades drop like that, but I don't want to hurt us again.

- Opal

(Content: system collapse (hypothetical, just mentioned), just a word vomit of a vent really)

First few weeks of syscovery were great actually. Aside from a few panic moments I was eager to learn and to chat with my headmates, but as time has gone on I started to feel more and more anxious. About our growing headcount, about communication, about interacting with everyone, about being front-sticky, about them having something in real world that feels like their own, about whether I am still "me" at any given moment, about them disappearing, and me becoming terrified of switches. Every single person has been telling me that I worry too much about it all. And yet I could never stop.

Truth is - i feel stranded. I feel like there's this strange and fragile thing in my head that is going to crumble if I just breathe at it wrong or I'll cry too much and nobody to guide me through keeping it safe. I wish I could have someone to guide me and give me in-depth advice for what should I do but i simply have nobody. Only a singlet friend who's in an even shittier emotional situation or a random discord system members who I already feel like a baggage to.

I was supposed to look for therapy in October but now I think my options are limited. Money's part of the issue

And a week ago I think I started to feel worse, I don't remember what was up, but I started obsessing over even more stuff and at that point doubted reality of them actually talking with me. My in-sys girlfriend suggested that maybe I should just "take a break from all this system stuff" and focus on return to university as I've mentioned in another post of mine. And, it's been almost a week, and.. I don't know... It's been mostly me by myself with few exceptions and convos. I've talked to other headmates every now and then but it's like those memories don't carry this feeling of "that happened"...

I don't know how long I should have this break. Would 2 months be excessive?

I've been thinking about system collapses a lot lately and being terrified of one, and I'm wondering if maybe it would be a helpful thing for our ~40 headcount to compress into something more simple and defined, but I... I don't want to just discard anybody, even headmates that seem "redundant", you know..? Or maybe I shouldn't feel this way...

.......All my headmates have always been so kind and patient with me, but it feels like the system is basically centered around me and I always felt selfish that they always had to comfort me. They hardly ever had any problems of their own, so I never knew how to return it all

Maybe I just don't know how I'm supposed to interact with them... Am I supposed to make the effort to always meet up with each person regularly? To find things for them and always try to help if something upset them? I don't know why it seems like so much... Maybe social anxiety or other lack of knowledge on how to grow bonds with other human beings also covers people from the same brain..

I dont know how did someone like me become/remain the "main" one. And with being so terrified of switches for no reason now (monoconscious, memory sharing) I don't know if there's a way for me to stop being one. i think im the most redundant of us all....

i just...i just want things to be okay...to be no dangers that my brain seems to be going off at every single day..i don't even know what I'm talking about... I don't think my brain actively goes off like that, but those words just kind of came up...i dont know

i just want everything to be okay....

(also, thanks people who have replied on my previous post, you might recognize some things I've already mentioned then)

(Im sorry if it's pity-party, i guess i wanted to dump this somewhere, i might delete it later. but comments are welcome still

I just downloaded this app called Parallax on IOS. It’s really cool and is probably the best SP alternative I’ve been able to find. Personally, I actually really prefer it.

I just haven’t seen anyone talking about it, I’m curious if there’s a reason why?

Hi ! I'm looking for ideas for system rules as they are very much going to be needed for my system.

For context, we are an adaptive system with DID, definitely affected by trauma. I already have the "managing our shared life rules", but I need to find ideas for our internal/innerworld life with each other. This is one step to try and prevent internal harm, abuse, etc, because it's been a big issue for us, but I'm unsure how specific it should be beyond "don't hurt others"

hi! we are the winged sys, and have been collectively developing an app called TECSPA (the extremely customizable plural app). It is early development !! But we have lots of cute themes, journal, ampersand & pluralspace importer, front history, sharing your system with others(privacy options included), as well as pretty UI and the ability to import fonts and create custom fields. the link is https://tecspa.vercel.app/ ! and the desktop app(it has worse encryption and no accounts) is on our github https://github.com/wingedcoderr/tecspa !

there’s trans jokes in trans subs so what are some good plural jokes?

im not very funny so here’s my attempt:

”hmm. ask me again in five minutes I’ll change my mind”

edit: joke

edit2: pls pls pls comment what you think is a good plural joke in the comments pls pls pls

Hey, y'all. I'm not actually plural myself. I just happen to have a lot of plural friends because I once upon a time decided to write a fanfic in which I represented the main character of a movie as a system. I met a lot of those friends thanks to this fic. Got a lot of comments from my target audience that told me my writing is respectful and good. Some people actually introjected my OCs from the fic.

I'm also a frequenter of the fanfiction subreddit, and thought. "Well, this is something to brag about!" so I made a post saying more or less what I told here, in there.

It wasn't up for 5 minutes before a bunch of comments claimed DID wasn't like that (I didn't say my system characters were DID in specific) that my writing was bad (I didn't include a link to the fic so they were saying that without having read it) and that my friends were probably faking being systems cause DID is a very rare disorder (I didn't even mention the term DID in the post). And asking me if I was a 13 year old.

After so long in plural and endo accepting spaces and circles, like this subreddit, or the server I have with my friends and readers, it was a shock of reality, getting a glimpse of what the world at large thinks about systems. There's such a lack of understanding and information, and such a big fakeclaiming culture. I feel like I should have expected it, my understanding was colored by the fact I curated really accepting spaces. But this really drove in the point of why my friends don't tell anyone they're plural.

It discouraged me like hell. I keep wondering now, if we'll ever see a world where systems can exist without being jumped, discredited, insulted, humilliated, or worse. I thought maybe writing about it could help with that, but I don't think I'm even scratching the surface.

If you're plural in any way you're stronger and more based than a whole damn lot of people, that's for sure. Rock on.

We usually say we're a system of 4 because getting into the nitty-gritty of it isn't usually worth it. However, that number has been outdated for a while but the actual number is hard to calculate precisely due to having a few "Schrodinger's headmates". Usually we only count the host, Athena, Iris and Quinn. Here's where things get complicated:

- We discovered that Quinn was a subsystem due to her being two souls fused together. According to her exomemories, she is made up of a court jester and the fae Queen Titania.

- The Queen, as it turns out, is also a subsystem made up of Titania and Morrigana, who have a more classic DID presentation (the main system is non-disordered) and split off from each other due to childhood trauma in their exomemories completely unrelated to the rest of the system. This would mean that Quinn is a nesting doll of subsystems, lol.

- According to exomemories, the reason the Queen and Jester's souls got fused in the first place was due to a curse placed upon them by Oberon. Oberon seized the opportunity to stage a coup due to the Queen being mentally unstable and making poor decisions that led to the environmental collapse of her realm. Because she was too powerful to get rid of, he fused her soul with her jester's (also her lover), which gave her amnesia, and banished her. This didn't improve the situation, so all the fae died and only Oberon, who resorted to cannibalism, remained. Later, we managed to track him down and drag him over to our headspace to imprison him, but for his own safety he had to be put to be put in a coma of sorts in which he age regressed to his 6-8y/o self and relived his worst childhood trauma in the form of unending nightmares. We know this because the fucker stole front anytime we fell asleep and would speak irl to ask for reassurance. So he became a headmate against our will. He's a really bad person who's done some really icky stuff in his previous life so we really don't like counting him as a headmate.

- Oberon's child self is so different from his adult self that they might as well be different people. Would this make Oberon a subsystem?

- We also discovered a fragment, Agony, who steals front anytime the host is experiencing terrible despair and snuffs out Iris and Athena, who temporarily die (??????) and are unable to do their job to maintain system wellbeing. However, it's so underdeveloped as a full-fledged headmate and is so actively dangerous to the system that we're unsure if we should include it in the headcount. Our current theory is that Agony is a corrupted inner child that is only capable of experiencing despair for now.

- Iris once had a BPD split so bad that she literally fought her own body, alien hand syndrome style, as if two wills were competing for control. Wtf was that about? How does that affect the headcount?

So yeah, our headcount may range from approximately 4 and ¾ all the way up to.... 10?? Maybe more depending on how you count Quinn's layered subsystems. It's fuckin crazy, y'all, send help 💀💀

Obligatory disclaimer that we're in therapy and none of this impacts our day-to-day life and is not an active issue, it's just weird.