u/BrandonMarshall2021

Lol. Some of this goes too far. But I love his energy.

Hold a gun to his head and make him portray the Greek Gods as real in the movie and not all in their imagination.

Seriously. His Valkyrie and the draugr from The Northman were amazing, which leads me to believe he bring Scylla and the Cyclops and the rest of the monsters and creatures to life on screen.

The berserker dance was so primal and otherworldly. I would love to have seen him do something similar with Bronze Age warriors amd their rituals and battle crystal.

As far as I'm concerned, Eggers does the best period movies ever. When he dares to do embrace the supernatural.

My God his Athena would have been amazing based on his Valkyrie.

Just like you often see studios compete by making similar films, I wish Eggers would make a competing The Odyssey movie with a rival studio.

Please. Someone pass this on to Eggers.

Tell him his period stuff craps all over Nolan.

Hold a gun to his head and make him portray the Greek Gods as real in the movie and not all in their imagination.

Seriously. His Valkyrie and the draugr from The Northman were amazing, which leads me to believe he would bring Scylla and the Cyclops and the rest of the monsters and creatures to life on screen.

The berserker dance was so primal and otherworldly. I would love to have seen him do something similar with Bronze Age warriors and their rituals and battle cries.

As far as I'm concerned, Eggers does the best period movies ever. When he dares to do embrace the supernatural.

My God his Athena would have been amazing based on his Valkyrie.

Just like you often see studios compete by making similar films, I wish Eggers would make a competing The Odyssey movie with a rival studio.

Please. Someone pass this on to Eggers.

Tell him his period stuff craps all over Nolan's.

Genetically, historically, and anthropologically, Greeks are significantly more closely related to Germans than to Sub-Saharan Africans.

When looking at genetic data, the relationship between Greeks and Germans is exceptionally close, while the relationship between Greeks and Sub-Saharan Africans is more distant.

On any global genetic map, all European populations—including Greeks and Germans—cluster tightly together on a single, distinct branch of the human family tree (the Western Eurasian branch).

The genetic distance between a Greek person and a German person is very small. They sit on the exact same continental genetic gradient.

The genetic distance between any European population (including Greeks) and any Sub-Saharan African population is significantly larger, reflecting thousands of years of geographic separation and independent population histories.

Greeks and Germans are way more genetically similar than Sub-Saharan Africans.

Genetically, historically, and anthropologically, Greeks are significantly more closely related to Germans than to Sub-Saharan Africans.

When looking at genetic data, the relationship between Greeks and Germans is exceptionally close, while the relationship between Greeks and Sub-Saharan Africans is more distant.

On any global genetic map, all European populations—including Greeks and Germans—cluster tightly together on a single, distinct branch of the human family tree (the Western Eurasian branch).

The genetic distance between a Greek person and a German person is very small. They sit on the exact same continental genetic gradient.

The genetic distance between any European population (including Greeks) and any Sub-Saharan African population is significantly larger, reflecting thousands of years of geographic separation and independent population histories.

There was no need to race swap Helen because there was already a black character in The Odyssey.

"Homer explicitly includes a Black character in The Odyssey.

In Book 19, Odysseus is in disguise and testing his wife, Penelope, to see if she still loves him. He claims to have met "Odysseus" years ago and describes Odysseus’s favorite herald and trusted companion, a man named Eurybates.

Homer describes Eurybates's physical appearance with two specific traits in Book 19, lines 246–247:

He was round-shouldered, dark-skinned (melanchroos), and wooly-haired (oulokarenos)..."

The combination of melanchroos (literally "black-skinned" or "dark-skinned") and oulokarenos (literally "curly-headed" or "wooly-haired") is the exact phrasing ancient Greeks used to describe people of Sub-Saharan African descent."

Dear Hollywood. I'm not white. And I grew up enjoying white stories without needing my race represented in them. So why are you telling me I need representation in movies?

I am not white. But I grew up in a white country reading stories like The Lord of the Rings and The Odyssey.

I loved these stories and I was able to enjoy them without imagining my own race being represented in them.

So why is Hollywood telling me that I need my race represented in movies and tv and therefore need to stick a black Viking or Asian elf in stories which have long established characters that ain't black or Asian?

I've also noticed a trend where multiple races are portrayed in a historical or historical based fantasy film. And no one talks about their different countries of origin.

It's like Hollywood wants us to be racially diverse. But culturally homogeneous.

That's a travesty. And is cultural genocide. Oh we want Asians and Indians and black people. But we don't want them to mention Chinese New Year or Divali or Kwanzaa.

As a non white person I have a keen interest in Greco-Roman and Anglo-Celtic history and culture. Probably the same way some white folk are obsessed with the Orient or Africa.

I feel I almost have a responsibility to preserve "white" culture lest future generations think a whole lot of black and Asian Vikings were sailing around raiding with the Vikings. Or that Helen of Troy or Achilles was black.

So dear Hollywood. Give us people of colour some credit. We can enjoy a story about other races without needing to have our own race represented in the story.

Why?

Cuz we aren't racist! Lol.

Because not being able to enjoy a story because our race isn't represented in it is actually racist.

It's like a white person not being able to enjoy Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon because there aren't any white people in it.

So stop ruining historical or historical based fantasy with this terrible race swapping trend!

I don't understand why you wouldn't want to cast people that look like people in the source material.

E.g. why wouldn't you cast Oscar Isaac as Odysseus. His long beard in Dune would look ancient Greek with a few tweaks. He'd look great.

And as for Helen. How does casting her as black actually improve the film?

Her character has been thought of as white skinned and fair haired for thousands of years.

Be honest. Please. Please be honest. How does casting Helen as black improve the film?

And how does casting Zendaya to play a Greek God male any sense? Apart from Zendaya being half black, she looks way too young.

Please listen to an expert explain where Nolan went wrong.

If they really had to have a black actress play Helen of Troy in the Odyssey. I mean if they actually held a weapon to Chrsitopher Nolan's head. Then he should've picked Georgina Campbell.

Which black actresses are more beautiful than Lupita Nyongo?

Thandie Newton? Zoe Kravitz? Nia Towel?

So apparently Nolan has chosen not to have an orchestral score as they didn't have orchestras back then.

Oh my God!!!!

Why didn't you apply this approach to the armor or the casting?

The Dendra Panopoly wasn't just that cumbersome armor Nolan! There were plenty of other ones that still appeal to modern day aesthetics!

And you should've cast actors that look ancient Greek like Oscar Isaac instead of whiteass fratboy Viking looking Matt Damon!!!

And casting Lupita Nyongo is a double crime. One because there are ample references to Helen of Troy not being black. And two. She's not even that beautiful. And certainly not beautiful enough to launch a thousand ships. If you absolutely had to choose a black woman then maybe Georgina Campbell?

Dammnnnnn youuuuuu Nolannnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!

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Seems like a complicated issue. But in Australia a transgender woman won a discrimination case in court for being banned from a lesbian dating app.

What do you think?

Is it ok for lesbians to exclude transgender women from lesbian dating apps?

This interview seems to frame both sides as either completed right or completely wrong.

But here's the main takeaways I got from it.

- Pretty privilege does exist. And it is worthwhile improving your physical attractiveness.

- Being physically attractive will improve your dating life or relationship (as evidenced by marriages that break up when one or both partners stop looking after themselves).

- Smashing your own face with a hammer is just dangerous and wrong.

- Taking meth to lose weight is dangerous and wrong.

It's the dishonesty.

Just come out and say it's affirmative action, black actor's union/guild pressure on film studios, and or reparations that is behind the casting of Lupita and Zendaya in The Odyssey.

Just admit it.

Stop coming up with such disingenuous reasons.

Because if it was about diversity then East Asians would have prominent speaking roles too.

But they don't.

So just admit this is all just about black affirmative action/reparations.

Coming clean is better.

He seriously only discussed the material being based on blackened bronze daggers.

That explains the colour only Nolan! Not the freaking Batman/Marvel scifi armor shape, design, everything else!!!

At least just admit that you fcked it up with the costume design in this movie.

Most likely because you didn't want to make it race specific, ie. GREEK!!!

Respect the region, culture and source material!!!

Cast people that look like ancient Greeks!!!

The armor doesn't look anything like armor from Homer's time. You fired your historical consultant remember?

How about you tell people that in your interviews and be honest about it!!!

Dammmmmm youuuuu Nolannnnnnn!!!!!!

You had the budget to make this incredible! But instead you've made the cringiest modern, broad, woke interpretation ever!!!!

How about you sit down with Mel Gibson and let him teach you how to make a historical/historical fantasy movie.

Uncle Mel will show you how it's done.

He's said he didn't want the Northman to be like generic fantasy like Game of Thrones. But if he was ok making the witches and the devil real in The Witch. Why would making the zombie king and the Vallyrie real be an issue?

He did those scenes so well he should've just made a Beowulf movie.

Pretty good for AI.

Love her reaction to the public toilets.

Also what's with Romans washing clothes in urine? Didn't they mind the smell?

Where are all the East Asian actors in this production?

You're all so concerned with black and white that you forgot yellow exists too.

What is it with affirmative action being so racially biased towards black people when they're overrepresented for their population demographic in both the US and the UK.

Whereas the East Asian demographic are extremely under-represented in film and tv in the US and UK.

You need to spread the word that race isn't black and white! It's yellow too!

The economy is in the shittr, and the general population is baying for your blood, and also for assistance with the cost of living.

Somehow they have the idea that the gas industry has a lotta spare moolah to share around.

But your advisors remind you how much money the gas industry contributed to your election campaign.

And the gas industry is flat out threatening to give all their donations to the opposition if you tax them one cent more.

What do you do? What do you do?