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https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1NtHj6yEXv

Notes:

Archer: 40 subs.
The Assist Skill wasn’t used, so cost/subs can be reduced.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1XRaU6rE2C

Showcaser note:

For the hit-count shield from the dice mechanic, Himeko can just tap it once with her Ult, immediately exit, then cast the next Ult. This lets her trigger Eagle twice in a row.

At mid investment, if you have E2S1 SRobin, you can use this rotation. At low investment, Sparkle can handle the action advance instead, so you don’t need Eagle.

Himeko’s support Skill in phase 3 is extremely strong: it Breaks the enemy and advances the entire team.

Non-Elation teams can only charge this support Skill through AV, while Elation gets a stage buff that can charge it directly. It takes roughly 120 AV to fully charge.

So for a 0c, the goal is to enter phase 3 within 180 AV. Once Himeko’s support Skill comes online, the fight is over.

In this run, Himeko got hit by two massive action delays in a row at the end and barely got pushed out of 0c. Otherwise, phase 3 has overkill.

The supports’ SPD can be lowered. This was my first successful run, so there were a few mistakes.

The builds are only around mid-range substat quality. Sparkle uses Sacerdos for more damage so the team can reach phase 3 before 180 AV.

Setup:

E2S1 Himeko • Nova
42 subs — ATK + dual CRIT

E0S0 Sparkle
20 SPD subs
10 CRIT subs
Sacerdos + Vonwacq

E4S0 Welt
18 SPD subs
Eagle + Vonwacq

E0S0 DHPT
15 SPD subs
15 ATK subs
Sacerdos + Lushaka

https://youtu.be/I73_fAM137I

https://youtu.be/AiSd962v3Vo

She can 0av some old Plight bosses but not the newest one, too much HP and literally 1 shot your entire team. Hope they can buff e6 Nihillux, that e6 was so bad compared to e6 Cyrene. I would be so pissed of if they dont give her whole team action advance on e6

TC Note:

E6 Nihilux doesn’t qualify as an MDPS. Her multipliers are too low, she’s even worse as an MDPS than E6 Sparxie.

Her True DMG also shouldn’t be counted as a buff. It’s better understood as additional damage derived from the team’s original damage.

Right now, her thematic gimmick devalues her kit a lot. She doesn’t provide enough buffing power, and she doesn’t deal enough damage either.

Her highest-damage part is her Ult, but within 300 AV, she can only use it about 3 times.

For the opening setup, Pearl needs to Ult Nihilux. Otherwise, everyone else has already finished setting up while Nihilux still hasn’t gotten her Ult online.

As for Waven, whether you use him in an Elation team or run Nihilux as the sole Elation addition in a follow-up team, the result is still worse than the Waven / Ashveil / SRobin team.

So at the moment, Nihilux is mainly suitable as a replacement for the sustain slot there.

Future changes will most likely focus on:

• increasing Nihilux’s own damage or buffing power;
• speeding up her startup;
• improving the elation ally mechanic.

At most, I could see them making a major change to the gimmick. A major overhaul to Nihilux’s core kit is much less likely.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1rGao6VErc

TC Note:

The actual run hit 347M. There’s an extra turn worth about 4.8M in the middle that can be reset for, and another roughly 10M on top of that gets it to around 360M.

As expected of an Elation Aeon this improvement is very elating. Sparxie and Nihilux can pack up and get out together.

If Pearl was only locked to 3 Elation characters, SRobin wouldn't even need a fourth member.

Gotta love how all of the Elation supports’ amplification combined is still worse than Silver Wolf buffing herself.

The whole point of the original design was that Elation would have one extra multiplier category, yet the supports actual amplification is worse than random kids.

Ever since 4.2, Silver Wolf’s numbers have just kept getting smaller and smaller. It doesn’t feel satisfying at all.

Mirror link: https://streamable.com/1ym5tz

https://youtu.be/Z5M7b3p8hTU

Lowest cost run atm btw, SW also had 6 cost run. others elation DPS are 7 minimum.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ihaQ6REtj

• Showcaser note:

Sparxie / Silver Wolf: 38 subs
Pearl: 18 SPD subs (mine reaches 198 SPD on the live server)
Nihilux: 18 SPD subs

This King gives you an E0S0 Yaoguang that procs once per action, if you know what I mean. Giving you two Aha Instants is ridiculous, which is very favorable for Sparxie.

It’s a shame Nihilux herself doesn’t provide high-frequency Aha. If she did, I don’t even know how strong Sparxie could become.

For now, Nihilux doesn’t seem to have much ability to deal damage herself. Even the damage shown on her damage panel is still basically being “borrowed” from her teammates’ True DMG.

That opening HP drain seriously annoyed me. Why is the survivability pressure this high?

Did they see how weak Pearl’s buffing power is and decide to force sell sustains now? it’s honestly absurd.

Overall, the run is still very easy.

• QnA:

Comment:
Could you make a lower-investment version? Something like E2S1 Silver Wolf / E1S1 Yaoguang / E0S0 Nihilux / E0S0 Pearl, or E2S1 Silver Wolf / E0S1 Sparxie / E0S0 Nihilux / E0S0 Pearl.

I have E1S1 Yaoguang and E0S0 Sparxie, and I don’t know which one I should keep. [respect]

Reply:
If Sparxie isn’t E2, just kick her out. Without E2 Sparxie is bad.

Comment:
Would it be better to use Pearl’s second Ult to give Sparxie the extra turn?

Reply:
No. I tried it. It takes more AV. If Pearl gives the final extra turn to Silver Wolf instead, Silver Wolf can squeeze in one more Basic ATK.

Comment:
With the way things are right now, is there any rotation where Silver Wolf can actually make use of 999 MMR within one Ult window?

From a lot of the combat showcases I’ve seen, it looks like she can’t even get an EBA above 500 MMR.

Reply:
Impractical.

Nihilux’s Aha frequency is lacking. A big reason we can even get the numbers this high in this cycle is because we’re relying on Aha Instants provided by the boss.

Comment:
Sparxie still lost. I didn’t expect Yaoguang to actually monopolize Aha this hard.

Yaoguang is the real Aeon of Elation.

Sparxie would need to generate another 200 Punchline per action before she could beat Yaoguang.

Reply:
It’s not that extreme. Their results against Plight Yabuli are about the same.

• TC Note:

Based on 4.7 Test Server V1 data, this post calculates the total damage dealt along with the total-damage results for each setup.

① E2S1 or E6S1 Silver Wolf
35 subs, Magical Girl + Punklorde
200.6 SPD

② E2S1 Sparxie
35 subs, Magical Girl + Tengoku
134.6 SPD

③ E2S1 Aeon★Aha
35 subs, Diviner + Joy
187.8 SPD

④ E2S1 or E2S0 Pearl
21 SPD subs, Actor + Vonwacq
187.2 SPD

• 2. Enemy parameters

Lv. 95 single-target / AoE enemy targets.

No Imaginary, Fire, Ice, or Quantum Weakness.

20% All-Type RES.

No Weakness Breaks and no enemy-mechanic interactions throughout the calculation.

• 3. Calculation notes

① For V1 Nihilux, if you want the team to be fully set up right at the top of the rotation, Pearl’s first Ult needs to give Nihilux an extra turn, allowing Nihilux to apply her Skill to Silver Wolf.

However, doing this negatively affects the later damage sequence and lowers the team’s total damage within 300 AV.

Because of that, this rotation does not use that setup, but you should.

② This rotation has a fairly demanding SPD requirement for Pearl.

With Actor + Vonwacq, Pearl needs at least 21 SPD substats.

If you switch to Eagle, the SPD requirement can be lowered.

At the same time, Nihilux needs to finish her startup before Pearl, so Nihilux must be faster than Pearl.

③ The 19-cost Silver Wolf / Sparxie / Pearl / Nihilux team can actually drop Nihilux’s signature Light Cone and become an 18-cost setup.

Total damage would fall by roughly 12%, but calculating it properly would require rebuilding the entire rotation, so I didn’t redo the full calculation here.

④ In V1, aside from Silver Wolf’s first and final Ult, which only reach 360 MMR, all of her other Ults can reach 480 MMR.

Even so, there is still a very large amount of room before reaching the 999 cap.

For now, in V1, replacing Yaoguang with Nihilux increases total damage by roughly 60%.

Nihilux also gives the team better startup potential and more room for additional investment, so it’s worth watching how she changes throughout the rest of the beta.

(P.S. Calculations for Evanescia and Aventurine teams will also be added gradually as the beta progresses.)

• QnA:

Comment:
Could you also test/post more detailed Nihilux data? It’d be useful for people considering her Light Cone too.

Reply:
I haven’t tested it yet. I might post it later. But ultimately, it feels like having something along the lines of Action Advance on the Light Cone would make more sense.

Comment:
Are Sparxie’s sig and Silver Wolf’s sig really that strong? Are they even better than Nihilux’s sig?

Reply:
At the moment, the meaningful value from Nihilux’s sig is mainly the teamwide 16% DEF ignore. The other part of its amplification doesn’t make that big of a difference in the current setup.

With Silver Wolf and her sig properly set up, you can still reach around 6 Aha Instants within 300 AV even without Nihilux’s sig.

Comment:
Just to make sure I understand: if Pearl goes into the Sparxie team, does Action Advance become more valuable?

Reply:
That still needs more research for now, but it might not actually result in any meaningful improvement.

Comment:
Isn’t Pearl’s recommended investment a bit too low?

Reply:
There’s still room to optimize Pearl’s recommended setup, but even after optimization, it still wouldn’t reach the roughly 500M you see in some dummy-test videos.

After all, the conditions in those tests and the conditions used here aren’t the same.

Comment:
The biggest issue with this chart right now is that some teams’ total damage is too low and the data ends up distorted. Even if there are explanations regarding practical dummy-test conditions, people are still going to use these numbers for comparisons. The Aventurine data in particular should probably be corrected sooner rather than later.

Reply:
Who uses this chart, or what they use it for, isn’t particularly important to me.

There are two main reasons why I do these calculations. First, I personally find character mechanics and team damage interesting. Second, I want to produce something that shows relative team performance in a more intuitive way.

I’m not particularly interested in the character-PvP discussions that a lot of people care about.

Some teams’ recommended setups do still have room for optimization. That’s true and I’m specifically emphasizing that this isn’t limited to the Aventurine team.

But very few people can guarantee that whatever they tested has absolutely zero room left for optimization, especially during beta. That also applies to the vast majority of practical dummy-test data we currently have.

Comment:
But practical dummy testing is still practical dummy testing. There can be a large gap between spreadsheet conditions and how a team actually performs.

Reply:
That’s exactly the point. The conditions used by practical dummy tests and the conditions used in my calculations can differ substantially.

I don’t think either a new dummy-test result or a spreadsheet calculation can do more than reflect one aspect of a team’s capabilities. Neither one can truly represent the team’s complete real-combat experience.

That’s why I’m opposed to taking one calculation result and using it to drive character-PvP narratives in the community.

If one of my calculations for a top team still has room for optimization, what I’d rather see is someone pointing out how it can be optimized, instead of mechanically taking another dummy-test video and using it as a direct comparison.

For real combat, the important thing is identifying which optimization actually produces a meaningful result.

Comment:
For Nihilux, should you prioritize her functional requirements above everything else, or do CRIT stats still have meaningful priority like they do on Silver Wolf?

Reply:
First make sure Nihilux’s required functional stats aren’t being sacrificed.

If you still have room after that, you can appropriately invest into CRIT.

Comment:
So the priority is more or less similar to Yao Guang’s?

Reply:
More or less.

Comment:
How are you calculating Nihilux’s HP-reduction effect? From the current gameplay footage, it doesn’t really look like ordinary damage.

Reply:
For enemies with sufficiently large HP pools, you can essentially treat a 10% Max HP reduction as lowering the amount of damage you actually need to deal by 10%.

That translates into an effective damage increase of:

1 / 0.9 − 1 = 11.1%

At E6, if the effective Max HP reduction reaches 20%, that becomes:

1 / 0.8 − 1 = 25%

Comment:
I think that calculation might be wrong. If it were just a fixed 10% reduction, the boss’s behavior once its HP gets low doesn’t seem to line up with that. It looks more like it’s simply lowering the HP ceiling rather than giving a normal 25% damage amp.

Reply:
That shouldn’t necessarily be the case, because Nihilux’s Talent HP reduction can stack with her E6 effect.

Against an enemy with a sufficiently long HP bar, it can potentially reach around a 30% Max HP reduction unless the initial effect is only allowed to retain 20%.

In that case, the equivalent damage increase would be:

1 / 0.7 − 1 = 42.9%

Comment:
So is Nihilux supposed to contribute meaningful personal damage too? I didn’t look too closely at her kit.

Reply:
It’s better not to expect too much from that part.

In the setup being discussed here, Nihilux’s own damage share is only around 14%, so it does contribute something, but it’s not a particularly large portion of the team’s damage.

Comment:
Could you keep pushing the overflow higher something like 800?

Reply:
Getting to 800 would be fairly difficult, and fundamentally you’d start losing value from the overflow mechanic itself.

The effective-return range around 300–400 overflow is already very high. Going substantially beyond that may provide very little additional benefit.

Comment:
With E6S1 Nihilux + E2S1, roughly how large is the improvement?

Reply:
I haven’t calculated it yet, but the increase should still be pretty substantial.

Within 300 AV, you’re looking at roughly 2 additional Aha activations, which should probably translate into around 2–3 additional EBAs for Silver Wolf.

Comment:
Could the rotation instead be optimized so Pearl gets another action?

Reply:
That approach should be workable.

With optimization, you can indeed give Pearl one additional action, but the tradeoff is that you have to give up one additional Ultimate.

So the main value of doing it that way is more about easing the rotation/breakpoint pressure.

Comment:
Right now, E6 Nihilux should be worse than E6 Silver Wolf, right?

Reply:
At least in this team, E6 Nihilux indeed doesn’t provide as large an improvement as E6 Silver Wolf.

Comment:
What about Silver Wolf / Yao Guang / Pearl / Nihilux? Did you just ignore Yao Guang because she’s worse than Sparxie?

Reply:
I haven’t calculated the Silver Wolf / Yao Guang / Pearl / Nihilux team yet.

Personally, I think Yao Guang’s mechanics don’t mesh with it very well, and Nihilux’s amplification for Yao Guang is also too weak.

Comment:
With the same substat quality, is switching Pearl to Eagle actually an improvement?

Reply:
Switching to Eagle has limited value.

If you optimize the rotation, at most it can give Pearl one additional action, but it still can’t give her another Ultimate.

Its biggest benefit is reducing the substat pressure.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1EuaX6fEZW