u/Obvious-Produce-9566

Which team is coming out on top?
**Marvel Team**
• Jean Grey/Phoenix — X-Men film series
• Thor — MCU
• Captain Marvel — MCU
• Hulk — The Incredible Hulk TV series
• Ghost Rider — Ghost Rider films
• Legion — Legion
• Eternity — MCU
• Doctor Strange — MCU
• The Ancient One — MCU
• Sentry/The Void — MCU
• Galactus — MCU
• Scarlet Witch — MCU
• Odin — MCU
• Dormammu — MCU
• Loki — MCU
• Silver Surfer — Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
• Ego — MCU
• Hercules — MCU
• Ikaris — MCU
• Kang the Conqueror — MCU
**DC Team**
• Dream of the Endless — The Sandman
• Lucifer Morningstar — Lucifer
• Wonder Woman — DCEU
• Superman — DCEU
• Raven — Titans
• Doctor Fate — DCEU
• Shazam — DCEU
• Supergirl — Arrowverse
• Solomon Grundy — Stargirl
• Doctor Manhattan — Watchmen
• Trigon — Titans
• Darkseid — Zack Snyder’s Justice League
• John Constantine — Constantine/Arrowverse
• The Flash — Arrowverse
• Sabbac — DCEU
• Black Adam — DCEU
• General Zod — DCEU
• Doomsday — DCEU
• Green Lantern — Green Lantern
• Anti-Monitor — Arrowverse
Everyone is working together with their teammates and fighting at the strongest level they reached in their respective live-action movie or show.
Which team wins?

Across every live-action Marvel and DC movie and television series, which side has introduced the strongest characters, displayed the greatest feats and reached the highest overall level of scaling?
This is not limited to the characters in the pictures. They are just examples of some of the strongest characters I could think of.
For Marvel, the examples shown include:
• Sentry — Thunderbolts\\\\\\\*
• Jean Grey/Phoenix — X-Men films
• Legion — Legion
• Galactus — Fantastic Four films
• Arishem — Eternals
• Doctor Strange — MCU
• Hulk — Marvel films and shows
• Eternity — Thor: Love and Thunder
• Ghost Rider — Ghost Rider films and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
• Scarlet Witch — MCU
• Captain Marvel — MCU
• The Watchers — Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 and other live-action appearances
For DC, the examples shown include:
• Trigon — Titans
• Darkseid — Zack Snyder’s Justice League and other live-action appearances
• Shazam — DCEU
• Supergirl — Arrowverse, The Flash and other live-action versions
• Superman — all live-action films and shows
• Doctor Manhattan — Watchmen film and HBO series
• Raven — Titans
• Doctor Fate — Black Adam and other live-action appearances
• Wonder Woman — all live-action films and shows
• The Flash — Arrowverse and other live-action versions
• John Constantine — Constantine, NBC/Arrowverse
• Solomon Grundy — Stargirl and other live-action appearances
• Lucifer Morningstar — Lucifer

Every live-action version is eligible. So this includes different portrayals and variants of characters such as Superman, Spider-Man, Batman, the Flash, Jean Grey and Hulk.

No comic-book or animated feats. Base the comparison on live-action feats, statements and scaling only.
Which side has the strongest top tiers, and whose scaling ceiling ultimately goes higher?

These four suddenly appear in Metropolis with one objective: eliminate as much of the main DC universe as possible.
Rules:
They work together and remain in character
They know their targets and have basic information about their abilities
They receive one week of preparation
The DC universe receives no initial warning or preparation
DC’s heroes and villains can respond once they recognize the threat
Standard equipment and abilities unless otherwise specified
This is not one immediate battle against every DC character simultaneously
They begin with Earth’s active heroes and villains, while cosmic beings can become involved after learning about the threat
Can they eliminate the DC universe? If not, how far do they get, how long do they last, and who ultimately stops them?
Character information and scaling:
Rick Sanchez C-137:
Scaling video 1
Scaling video 2
Ben 10,000:
Scaling video 1
Scaling video 2
Bill Cipher:
Scaling video 1
Scaling video 2
Hero Hunter Garou:
Scaling video 1
Scaling video 2
(I feel like this team could go much further than people might initially give them credit for, especially if they actually coordinate. Good squad comms go a long way 😭😅 Rick can design counters for extremely powerful opponents, but his usual problem is not always having the necessary equipment available. Here, he has teammates who can manipulate reality and potentially create whatever materials or devices he tells them he needs. Please consider their teamwork, preparation, adaptation, and abilities instead of immediately naming one top-level cosmic or abstract entity who erases them.)

These four suddenly appear in New York with one objective: eliminate the Marvel Earth-616 universe, similar to *Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe*.
**Rules:**
They work together and remain in character
They know their targets and have basic information about their abilities
They receive one week of preparation
The Marvel universe receives no initial warning or preparation
Marvel’s heroes and villains can respond once they recognize the threat
Standard equipment and abilities unless otherwise specified
Can they eliminate Earth-616? If not, how far do they get, how long do they last, and who ultimately stops them?

**Character information and scaling:**
Rick Sanchez (C-137): \[https://youtu.be/X7\\\_KoYeNm1g?is=9jV4ZMRVeqnNuyxU, https://youtu.be/DEts4eoZQrs?is=Rm\\\_z34iah\\\_1evCjA\\\]
Ben 10,000: \[https://youtu.be/AjxID2UxhJg?is=bmeplBa6csVLT-jP, https://youtu.be/gvJZ2a-Pbjs?is=45ozWaXma04jFwxL\\\]
Bill Cipher: \[https://youtu.be/G-K4TJpJdZo?is=9H3DXuPTyfGa3Xos, https://youtu.be/22V3rKriX60?is=ax0PddaowBZuQgv9\\\]
Hero Hunter Garou: \[https://youtu.be/Pgt1Bf0R0Gs?is=o\\\_iVtUsS0MhcaqrZ, https://youtu.be/r6ExnWGsCmE?is=eviE41Xa19Z7tRYp\\\]

These four suddenly appear in New York with one objective: eliminate the Marvel Earth-616 universe, similar to Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe.
Rules:
They work together and remain in character
They know their targets and have basic information about their abilities
They receive one week of preparation
The Marvel universe receives no initial warning or preparation
Marvel’s heroes and villains can respond once they recognize the threat
Standard equipment and abilities unless otherwise specified
Can they eliminate Earth-616? If not, how far do they get, how long do they last, and who ultimately stops them?

Character information and scaling:
Rick Sanchez (C-137): [https://youtu.be/X7\_KoYeNm1g?is=9jV4ZMRVeqnNuyxU, https://youtu.be/DEts4eoZQrs?is=Rm\_z34iah\_1evCjA\]
Ben 10,000: [https://youtu.be/AjxID2UxhJg?is=bmeplBa6csVLT-jP, https://youtu.be/gvJZ2a-Pbjs?is=45ozWaXma04jFwxL\]
Bill Cipher: [https://youtu.be/G-K4TJpJdZo?is=9H3DXuPTyfGa3Xos, https://youtu.be/22V3rKriX60?is=ax0PddaowBZuQgv9\]
Hero Hunter Garou: [https://youtu.be/Pgt1Bf0R0Gs?is=o\_iVtUsS0MhcaqrZ, https://youtu.be/r6ExnWGsCmE?is=eviE41Xa19Z7tRYp\]

For me, I need them to have some. They need to look the part, sound like they could play the part, and also they need to be intimidating. They can’t be too pretty boy. Cause if you go off most comic adaptations and animated adaptations of magneto. He’s like very kind of good looking, but he also can be like intimidating and have some more like a mature factor to his face. So of my criteria either by Voice or look, they need to be intimidating enough and then they need to look the part as well. Jason Issac’s just looks a like a good Ian McClellan type again.

When I say chain scaling is allowed I mean if another Rick did something you can basically assume that he can do it himself because he’s literally the “rickest Rick”

Ichigo kurosaki - Bleach

Wonder Woman - DC

Chrollo Lucifer - HXH

Nightwing - DC

The sentry - Marvel

tserriednich - HXH

Absolute Catwoman - DC

Baki Hanma - Baki

Peter Parker - Marvel

Gojo Satoru - JJK

Magneto - Marvel

Ban the fox sin - SDS