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Don't translate this to me saying "PG = bad" or "Kids movies = bad". I just hate how mainstream western animated films are practically MANDATED to be PG. I want more experimentation. Y'all who use this argument against me are proving why animation still doesn't get taken seriously as cinema by many.

And yes, I know anime and adult animation is an ongoing thing, but it's not really the same. Anime typically doesn't do various stylizations, and American adult animation usually tries to either be Family Guy 2 or Anime 2.

It annoys me a lot how Kpop Demon Hunters and the upcoming Ray Gunn were aiming for PG-13 but then sanitized because of executive meddling.

PG-13 doesn't even have to be "adults only". They can still be family films. That's why Marvel and DC movies are successful.

I always liked DreamWorks in the 90s-00s because they felt like an edgier alternative to Pixar. Pixar had a different atmosphere back then too, and I wish they'd attempt this too. Brad Bird gets really mad when people call The Incredibles a "kids movie".

Hollywood, take the fucking risk!!!!!!!!

I always liked how Cartoon Network aired a shit ton of DC shows alongside their originals and what they acquired.

I remember there being tons of adult animated DC movies though too.

They were always marketed, but never aired on television. You could say it's because they wanted people to buy the DVDs, but CN was still always airing the straight to DVD Scooby Doo and Tom & Jerry movies. So what gives?

I remember being curious about them whenever I'd see a commercial but I was always too poor to buy them.

Sorry if this is a noob question or isn't the right place to post this. I mainly just want to spread this idea around and ask what y'all think of it.

Not really sure where else to post this.

Dan Harmon said it's hard to pack the show into a 22 minute format and that it ultimately leads to MULTIPLE lines being cut and changes to episodes. He however said making a movie will allow the script to breathe.

This also might be their only chance at ever making a movie. This may be the ONLY Rick and Morty movie ever (unless it somehow becomes a giant box office hit). I personally think they should just make it over 2 hours long.

Also, Harmon's comments kind of make me wonder why they never do more 2-4 part episodes.

I didn't really start noticing antis until about the late 2010s-2020. I used to think that COVID, other countries' laws, and the Bush administration's confusing laws that were later deemed unconstitutional played a part in this, which they do, but honestly I think it's mainly because the animation community got bigger.

You didn't see as many people ranting about cringe culture. I mean sure, you had the likes of Chris Chan, but nobody was making endless amounts of videos talking about "cringey" fetish art. The small amount of people in fandom had a general understanding of Rule 34. If it exists, there's porn of it. Plain and simple. Nothing you can do about it but actually use fucking filters and parental controls if it concerns you.

Elements antis and cringe culture always existed, but I feel like fandom discourse didn't used to be THIS bad.

Also once again, like I said in previous post, YouTube Kids should have never existed. Social media should have never decided children should be part of their main demographic. The internet is not a fucking playground.

Edit: Just remembered when Tumblr banned NSFW posts. That had to have played a role there too.

If hate speech laws were just extended to saying that you can't call for the genocide/threat of groups of people, and that you can't slander others, I'd understand their purpose, but that's not really where those laws usually end.

Australia, Canada, and the UK had hate speech laws. That means their government has more control over freedom of speech.

In Australia, a woman was literally arrested for writing a book that depicted ageplay. A lot of anime are banned or censored in countries like this too.

These kinds of laws have also led to things like websites and operating systems requiring that you give them your ID, which is now effecting the US.

Edit: Let me clarify. I am aware laws, like the example I gave in Australia, are separate from their hate speech laws. My point is, they have given the government power to control free speech.

Parents will often just hand their children iPads and let them go on social media or download any apps without thinking. At least when Live TV was the mainstream entertainment, there were PSAs, educational content, progressive messaging, etc. Most kids would only go on websites that were promoted on TV, on children's stations.

Sure it got worse later on with all the stupid reality TV shows and brain rot, but I think it's better than handing a 10 year old Twitter or Skibidi Toilet. More parents were also using parental controls back then. Now they're wanting the government to require people to give their ID to websites for age verification, which is fucked.

Specifically I see this in subs for animated sitcoms. Like Rick and Morty or Family Guy, or honestly even r/adultswim.

Any time I see people talk passionately and/or commentate, or lightly critique a show on any subreddits related to adult animated shows, the comments are filled with a bunch of assholes shitting on the OP. Or they say "I ain't reading all that".