Which of these TLBT villains do you want to see return in The Land Before Time and The Lion Guard’s Night at the Museum of Natural History? (And Art Museum)

You remember that post I made earlier about that crossover comic series between The Lion King and The Land Before Time that I wish was made a reality with that included that title but it could only use one returning TLBT villain appearing as the comrades to the new villains appearing and Scar’s army, Ushari and Zira herself, who ends up getting killed off at the end by turning to dust by sunrise as as those other new villains do while Scar’s army, Ushari and Zira are spared until the Season 3 premiere of The Lion Guard and The Lion King 2: Simba’s Pride events, which one Should be included, for those who don’t make the cut will return in a sequel comic story arc set in a new Natural history museum or art museum, (I already have a poll over which two museums you think the first comic story arc should be set in in that original post,) that may even focus on the real Star Wars of the humans of the Maya Civilization between the Mayan City-states of Calakmul, Palenque, Caracol, and Tikal plus the macaws, new world monkeys, sloths and jaguars that lived alongside them and the non-avian dinosaurs and pterosaurs of Cretaceous Mongolia and giant lemurs and elephant birds of Madagascar in the Late Plestiocene.

Anyway here are the choices: (With extra choices over which museums the first comic story arc should be set in, in double choices I will coin toss on the final choice whichever ones Don’t make it will be saved for the sequels.)

  1. Red Claw, Screech and Thud (Red Claw revealed to be the brother to the Tyrannosaurus from the first Land Before Time movie gets more depth revealed into his tragic villain character and motivation and how Chomper and Ruby met and why they choose to go to the Great Valley in the first place with their families being unable to help them while Thud gets a redemption arc further foreshadowed in “Escape from the Mysterious Beyond” that ends with him pulling off a heroic sacrifice to kill and defeat Red Claw and Screech by fighting them and keeping them outside when sunrise comes so they would all turn into dust together in Redemption Equals Death.)

  2. Ozzy and Strut (Strut goes on a redemption arc that ends with him betraying Ozzy and having him killed off alongside the new villains and afterwards gives himself his comeuppance for his own evil deeds by turning himself in to be sentenced to hard labor helping construct the Great Pyramid of Giza or grand temple at Tikal in Old Kingdom Egypt or Classic Period Maya disguised as a human, for four months promising to do better once his labor is over and gets a lifetime supply of plants no more eggs to eat in the meantime or Strut gets forgiven quickly and let off with no punishment whichever comes last.)

  3. Rinkus and Sierra (They are revealed to have much bigger and selfish villain goals and motives as not-so-well-intentioned extremists than Pterano who was revealed to have been a well-intentioned extermist in the seventh TLBT movie trying to save the dinosaurs and pterosaurs of the Mesozoic Era from the crimes and tyranny caused by the new villains for this “Night at the Museum of Natural History (And Art Museum)” comic and reunite its predators and prey, divided by a magic spell cast by them thus making his redemption arc more justified and he is now focused on more fully helping other people alongside Etta revealed to be his sister as well as Wild Arms revealed to be named Ethan and a Suskityrannus named Janet while Cera’s mother and siblings were among the dinosaurs that Pterano unwittingly dead to their deaths in the Deinonychus’ claws and teeth fueling Daddy Topps’ hatred for Pterano.)

  4. Ichy and Dil (Ichy and Dil manage to resolve their feud with each other and work side by side in this comic crossover series but end up die holding hands or rather wings when they become defeated by being left outside to turn to dust when sunrise comes.)

  5. American Museum of Natural History, Metropolitan Museum of Art and Museum of Modern Art/Field Museum, Alder Planetarium and Art Institute of Chicago

  6. Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History, National Gallery of Art, National Museum of the American Indian, and National Air and Space Museum/Carnegie Museum of Natural History, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia Museum of Fine Arts

View Poll

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 7 days ago

Whatever Happened to the Mouse? Moments in Battle of the Smithsonian:

We never find out how exactly Dexter smuggled the tablet of Akhmenrah into his crate to take to the Smithsonian Institution in Washington D.C. before sunrise without anyone noticing including Akhmenrah himself and whether he was aware of the fact that the tablet and Akhmenrah were supposed to stay at the American Museum of Natural History and were not among the exhibits being retired to the federal archives at the Smithsonian.

Larry’s tie disappears at one point after he and Amelia talk with the Einestin bobble heads and it doesn’t reappear till later.

Rebecca seems to be completely absent in the sequel despite the supporting role she played in the first movie.

We never find out what happened to Brendon and the other human night guards who work at the Smithsonian museums as well as the National Gallery of Art after its exhibits come to life the second time because they never appear during the main plot of the movie while Larry and Amelia are walking through the museums. The exhibits coming to life either scared them all away abandoning their guard duties or Brendon and the night guards were in service but working at the National Museum of Natural History, National Museum of American History and National Museum of the American Indian unvisited in the movie since it mainly focused only on the National Gallery of Art, National Air and Space Museum and Smithsonian Castle as well as the underground federal archives containing retired exhibits from those museums.

Some of the animals brought to life by the tablet liberated from their crates in the Federal Archives like the Smilodon fossil skeleton, Pteranodon, giraffe, hippopotamus, fairy penguins and red kangaroos don’t show up again for the remainder of the movie especially in the climax after Larry and Amelia escape Kahmunrah’s Egyptian soldiers and it’s unknown where those animals went during sunrise and if they returned to the archives or returned to their old exhibits at the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History alongside the giant pacific octopus.

We last see the Ancient Egyptian soldiers who served Kahmunrah chasing Larry and Amelia into the “V-J Day in Times Square” photo at the National Gallery of Art ending up in 1945 Times Square, New York City and Larry and Amelia trapping and stranding those Egyptian soldiers in 1945 New York City by turning the photo around to the wall closing the portal it depicts to that time period and location thanks to the tablet and we never see the Egyptian soldiers again for the rest of the movie, they never escape from the photo and back to the Smithsonian in the present day and it’s safe to assume that once the portal the photo depicted closed when sunrise came, the Egyptian soldiers got stranded in 1948 Earth forever and will now have to start new lives in that time period. They were also implied that have been the slaves to Kahmunrah since he never mourns them after their losses and they are now freed from his slavery while trapped in 1948 to live new lives.

The Egyptian soldiers and his losses of them however are briefly mentioned by Kahmunrah as he addresses Ivan the Terrible, Napoleon and Al Capone and their gangsters and soldiers and it was the main reason why he recruited these wax historical figures to serve as his new henchmen after the losses of his old ones.

We don’t see Darth Vader and Oscar the Grouch from the Smithsonian National Museum of American History after Kahmunrah dismisses them, somewhat justified over the fact that Lucasfilm and Sesame Workshop owned the rights to those two characters at the time and 1492 Pictures could only use them in the movie in Cameos.

We never find out what happened to Ivan the Terrible, Al Capone and Napoleon after Kahumnrah’s defeat and eternal banishment to Duat done by Larry since they are last seen brawling and fighting each other after Larry tricks them into doing so and then they and their defeated warriors and soldiers disappear and no longer become relevant to the story and their fates are left ambiguous, some assume they were captured by the heroic Smithsonian exhibits and either imprisoned back in their old displays when sunrise came or locked outside to turn to dust as punishment for their crimes or Ivan, AL and Napoleon ended up destroying each other in their brawl by slaying each other or melting each other into puddles of wax.

We also never find out what became of Kahmunrah after he was banished to Duat, the Egyptian underworld by Larry, some assume he conquered and ruled the underworld with the Horus warriors that still lived there giving him a kingdom to rule after all, or others believe that Osiris or the spirits of Akhmenrah and Kahmunrah’s parents who were still there until the third movie punished Kahmunrah for his crimes against Earth and for trying to spill Duat into Earth by sentencing him to hard labor a fate worse than death, for all eternity or destroying his spirit rendering him deader than dead. Either way, now forever trapped in Duat with no chance of escape, with no more armies or kingdoms to rule, the pharaoh’s days of tranny and villainy are over. This time for good. Because he died once but came back in wax sculpture form.

We never find out what happened to George Armstrong Custer, the Giant Pacific Octopus and Amelia Earheart when sunrise came and whether Custer or the octopus returned to the archives or decided to become inanimate again permanently on display at the National Museum of Natural History and National Museum of American History rather than locked away in storage or whether or not Amelia returned to the National Air and Space Museum on her Lockheed Vega 5B to become an intimate wax sculpture and exhibit again or spent the rest of the night flying on her Lockheed Vega 5B straight to Canada and disintegrated into dust when sunrise came due to being outdoors but if the latter were the case, how would Larry explain the Lockheed Vega 5B’s disappearance from the National Air and Space Museum?

Although a huge mess was created in the Smithsonian Castle as a result of the final battle in terms of the glass window getting shattered by Abraham Lincoln’s memorial statue and the Wright Flyer when Larry and Amelia flew it into the castle as well as the interior being trashed by the heroes and villains and two paintings (A ocean oil painting from the 18th Century and V-J Day at Times Square) being displaced at the National Gallery of Art and and the Wright Flyer itself winding up damaged at the Smithsonian Castle from the National Air and Space Museum, it never explains how the damage was cleaned up and fixed and why Larry was never sued for it.

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 8 days ago

Don’t you wish that this crossover comic series could become a reality?

You know, I used to think, yeah, if Boom Studios! and Dynamite Entertainment in 2017 could team up to produce a comic crossover between Grumpy Cat and Garfield, I suppose they can do the same thing with The Land Before Time franchise and The Lion King franchise? Titled, “The Land Before Time and The Lion King’s Night at the Museum of Natural History” (And Art Museum) also a reboot and reimagining of the Night at the Museum franchise. It will be set after “Journey of the Brave” and during the second season of The Lion Guard with flashbacks set before and in between it. With the first comic issue featuring Littlefoot and Kion, and Bunga and Spike, Fuli and Cera, Chomper and Dogo, Ono and Petire, Besthe and Ducky, Hamu and Ruby.

Here’s how it’s plot will go: It focuses on Littlefoot, Cera, Ducky, Petire, Skip, Spike, Chomper and Ruby while playing with Ali and Guido and their new friend Pachycephalosaurus or DomeHead hatchling Ernest in the Great Valley in the Mesozoic Era suddenly finding a shining yellow light close by a peculiar group of dinosaurs and pterosaurs and when they come too close to it, it caused them all to become teleported to the present day and emerge from a Paleoart mural or painting by Charles Knight in a natural history museum from the present day (The 1990s, 2000s or 2010s A.D.) either the American Museum of Natural History, (Hall of Saurischian Dinosaurs), Field Museum (Evolving Planet) or Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History (Pre-renovation, David Koch fossil hall Deep Time), while The Lion Guard while they were on patrol in the Pride Lands during the day with Hamu, Mtoto or Juhudui coming with them for a training session in case they also want to join The Lion Guard someday on patrol to defend the lands from Scar’s army, they find a shining yellow light next to a watering hole and they also follow it and when they come too close to it it teleported them all into a Kenyan or Ethiopian watering hole diorama with giraffes, rhinos or Arabian oryxes or gazelle in either the American Museum of Natural History (Hall of African Mammals), Field Museum (African mammal dioramas) or Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History (Mammal Hall) and after the Prehistoric Pals (Littlefoot and co.) and The Lion Guard cross paths, they discover that the exhibits at the American Museum of Natural History, Metropolitan Museum of Art, Museum of Modern Art or The Field Museum and Art Institute of Chicago or all the Smithsonian museums in Washington D.C. (Not just the National Museum of Natural History, but also the National Air and Space Museum, Smithsonian Castle, National Museum of the American Indian, National Gallery of Art and National Museum of American History.) come to life every night in terms of the fossils and skeletons whole or not becoming real living prehistoric animals and modern day animals especially the dinosaurs, pterosaurs and Ice Age mammals with their flesh, bones, scales, fur, skins, muscles, feathers and everything much like the prehistoric animals formerly fossils in “Museum Alive with David Attenborough”, and Tyrannosaueus in T. rex Skeleton Crew from “T. Rex: The Ultimate Predator” (The sea creatures in both life-sized models and wet-preserved specimens as well as fossils come to life as well in the form of them floating in the air like they are actually swimming expect if they are beyond the museum.) and the animal specimens/taxidermies and life sized models coming to life and becoming real living animals, the human realistic and faceless mannequins and mummies Ancient Egyptian or Peruvian or just skeletons becoming real living humans with their flesh, skin, muscles and everything and, the artifacts, statutes and sculptures coming to life and the paintings, pictures and murals and backgrounds in the dioramas coming alive as well and them actually become portals to the years or periods in human history or prehistoric times that they represent, and the toys in the gift shops come alive too. As well as the constellations inside the planetariums and model planets, stars, moons, meteors and comets themselves by gaining faces and personalities. This all happened thanks to magic from a golden Ancient Egyptian tablet (Designed more like the tablet of Akhmenrah in the deleted scenes in Night at the Museum.) forged by the Egyptian gods Anubis, Thoth, Osiris and Bastet from the New Kingdom of Egypt displayed in the Egyptian Art gallery of the Met Museum (Or Egyptian Art, or Ancient Egyptian exhibits of the Art Institute of Chicago, National Museum of Natural History or Field Museum.) belonging to a family of Ancient Egyptian human scribes, priests and viziers and their pet cats, ibises, gerbils and jackals from Hatshepsut and Thutmose III’s Regins now in mummy form in coffins all uncovered from the Valley of Queens and displayed in those Egyptian galleries as well as an Ancient Greek harp forged by the Ancient Greek god Apollo in the Ancient Greek and Roman Galleries (Met Museum, Art Institute of Chicago or National Gallery of Art), and lastly a Mayan figurine/sculpture sculpted after the Mayan god Chac, made out of magical clay forged by the Hero Twins, Hunahpu and Xbalanque, belonging to a family of human Mayan scribes and priests as well as their spirit animals in the form of ocelots, spider monkeys, boa constrictors, macaws and three-toed sloths all in feather headdresses from the reign of the Mayan King Pakal from the city-state of Palenque, underrated compared to Tikal and Chichen Itza, now in taxidermy and skeleton form from Pakal’s tomb in Palenque, on display at either The Hall of Mexico and Central America at the AMNH, (Also home to an Olmec Colossal Head and Mayan Stelae Monument of an unknown Mayan king from Copan Honduras, Jade and Obsidian.) or National Museum of the American Indian, Ancient Americas gallery at the Field Museum, Art Institute of Chicago or Arts of Africa, Oceania and the Americas at the Met, (Pre-Michael C. Rockfeller Wing), and lastly a family of Peruvian Llamas and lesser rheas plus Guinea pigs or maned wolves with those magic powers themselves in spirit animal form belonging to a family of Moche and Chimu priests and nobles all in mummy form in bundles on display in either the Hall of South American Peoples at the AMNH, the Arts of Africa, Oceania and the Americas at the Met Museum or Ancient Americas gallery in the Field Museum or Art Institute of Chicago, anyway, all these artifacts and the skeletons and mummies of their owners first arrived at the AMNH, Met Museum, Field Museum, Art Institute of Chicago or Smithsonian in 1952 A.D. and on the night they arrived, everything in the museums came to life, and it happened every night of every year since, but there are are four weaknesses to the overall process:

When morning comes, the exhibits will become inanimate and lifeless again, so they must return to their halls, displays or paintings or storage in their respective museums to prevent concern from the curators.
Any of the exhibits that are outdoors turning sunrise, will turn to dust, expect if they are exhibits meant to be displayed outdoors like the Brachiosaurus fossil skeleton outside the Field Museum or the Columbian mammoths in The La Brea Tar Pits and Museum so they must be indoors at all costs.
The portals that the paintings, dioramas and murals brought to life become to the time periods or locations in history that they represent will close when sunrise comes and the artworks become inanimate again, and whoever is in the artworks or the time periods they send them too during sunrise will get trapped in them until sunrise comes.
Anything that comes out of the paintings or murals or even enter the museums from them who use them as a portal to that location that is still inside the museum during sunrise will turn into inanimate mannequins if they are humans or inanimate fossil skeletons, or taxidermies, models if they are dinosaurs, pterosaurs or animals and could be at risk of being put in storage and locked up by the museum staff with no way or being freed unless freed by someone else.

The artifacts also give the humans, modern-day animals and prehistoric creatures and sentient inanimate objects the ability to communicate with each other despite their language and talk including Spike himself and the Sharpteeth, I mean meat-eating theropods other than Chomper.

Anyway, the overall plot of the comic crossovers is the Prehistoric Pals (Who learn about the future beyond the K-T event and the words and terms humans use in their dictionaries and that predators and prey can coexist in peace after all especially in the Mesozoic Era and life won’t always be that peaceful.) and The Lion Guard (Who learn that not all jackals especially Dogo can be bad and what it truly means to be a leader whether it means going against the Circle of Life or not.) finding that they had been summoned to the museums by the human security guards that guard the museums at night and exhibits native to the museum that come to live at night not just the Mayan family and spirit animals (The Peruvian and Egyptian family are not freed until the climax.) which included to their surprise Littlefoot’s seemingly deceased mother Sophie who came to life fully resurrected from the Apatosaurus fossil skeleton on display at the museum and Littlefoot’s deceased long-lost siblings, (A big damn reunion happens between Littlefoot and Sophie and Bron and Sophie, as well as Grandpa and Grandma Longneck also revealing that Bron and Shorty permantely moved to the Great Valley after the fourteenth movie asking someone else to lead their herd in the meantime, Sue the supersaurus same for Cera, Rachel and Topsy but Topsy at first keeps his marriage to Tria a secret.) and Cera’s seemingly deceased mother and siblings, Rachel and Vincent who came to life from the Ticeratops fossil skeletons on display at the museum and Spike’s Stegosaurus parents and siblings who came to life from the Stegosaurus fossil skeletons on display at the museums and lots of other new characters I don’t have time to list and mention, (But I do want to say that Etta and Pterano will be revealed to be siblings.) and reveal that they were called to adventure to become time-traveling paleontologists, archaeologists and naturalists like them to resolve a crisis involving four new villains who want to change history forever including 1) a scorned or embittered Dimetrodon named Ethan and his Edaposaurus wife Riley and their Dimetrodon and Edaposaurus kids (They all have redemption arcs at the end.) and their Erypos and Dunklesteous comrades Terry and Ronald and Plateosaurus, Isanosaurus, Coelophysis, Liliensternus, Postosuchus, Placerias and Eudimphorodon henchmen and henchwomen (They have kids who have redemptions too or not) who all came to life from the fossils and model of them from The Hall of Primitive Mammals and Hall of Vetebrate Origins who grew jealous of all the attention and fame and high status and Hollywood movie and nature documentary and the high pop culture status non-avian dinosaurs, (Especially the Theropods and coelurosaurs, sauropods, Titanosaurs and Ornithschians.) pterosaurs, ammonites, and marine reptiles as well as sharks and early mammals of the Jurassic and Cretaceous Periods as well as the Ice Age mammals of the Pleistocene epoch (Especially the Columbian mammoths and woolly mammoths, American mastodons, Smilodon, dire wolves, long-horned bison, Megaladapis, Gigantopothecus, giant ground sloths, short-faced kangaroos, glyptodonts, Irish elk and the Australopithecus, Homo Ergaster, Homo Erectus and Neanderthals and early Homo Sapiens or Cro-Magnons themselves.) got from human paleontologists of the present day compared to the underrated creatures of the Paleozoic Era like trilobites, Pelycosaurs, orthocones, giant Arthropods, armored fishes, sea scorpions and giant amphibians them included, as well as the prosauropods and early theropods and reptiles of the Triassic Period especially after a herd of dictator Daspletosaurus and Lambeosaurus plus Nyctosaurus, Styracosaurus, Euoplocephalus, Centrosaurus, Gorgosaurus, Struthomimius or Troodon, Pteranodon and Ciomolestes and Eomaia in the so-called Unite Herds slaughtered half of Ethan and Riley’s Dimetrodon and Edaposaurus after they were taken prisoner by them and keep hostage during a conquest through prehistory they tried to do that the time-traveling paleontologists and naturalists stopped, and in order to earn the fame and respect that he and his kind deserved Ethan briefly stole the magical artifacts that bring the museum exhibits to life and used its magic to create disharmony in the Mesozoic Era (Jurassic and Cretaceous) about a year before the first Land Before Time movie in terms of by making all the Sharpteeth or theropods in that location/time period act feral and savage and attack the still humble and talkative plant-eating dinosaurs and pterosaurs and small mammals, Hunting them excessively instead of just when they need to hunt them related to the Circle of Life rules for Pride Lands in the present day causing discrimination and division between the meat-eating theropods and plant-eating dinosaurs and pterosaurs of the Jurassic and Cretaceous Periods and even the plant-eaters themselves until Bron and Littlefoot manage to restore and reunite them, and Chomper and his parents (And These three friendly theropods, Urusla the Utharaptor, Spiny the Spinosaurus hatchling and Tirana the Tyrannosaurus hatchling later Chomper’s girlfriend and their parents who play a key role in the story: https://www.deviantart.com/mcsaurus/art/Four-Friendly-Sharptooths-119248496) manage to break free from the magic spell and the next phase in Ethan and Riley’s plan is change history and to find a way to conjure the right magic spell to create the genocide of all the non-avian dinosaurs (Theropods, Sauropods and Ornithschian and the pterosaurs of that time and the sharks and ammonites.) and pterosaurs and marine reptiles of the Jurassic and Cretaceous through the right magic spell through a bunch of United artifacts the life granting ones for the museum exhibits included even if it means sacrificing them but not before everyone is part in their respective time periods before the portals close and allow the synapsids like Pelycosaurs and the orthocones, Placerias, trilobites, amphibians, sea scorpions, armored fishes from the Paleozoic Era, Triassic dinosaurs and crocodile-line archosaurs like Postosuchus and Triassic dinosaurs and pterosaurs to reign supreme in the Jurassic and Cretaceous Periods and the rest of the Mesozoic Era before going extinct in the Cretaceous-Paleocene Extinction Event to allow modern mammals to take over even if it means creating a bad future where modern birds don’t exist but become famed, respected and noticed and studied by paleontologists in the modern day and finally featured in movies and pop culture, (Or by making themselves look like heroes in the public’s eyes by making those turned savage non-avian dinosaurs and pterosaurs launch an attack on the present day and exterminate them all to gain the respect and fame they deserve.) and also taking force towards them were in four examples: 1) Some humans and their spirit animals as Teotithuacan and Toltecs and Nazca, Paracas, Chancay and Wari Culture hidden tribes from the Pre-Columbian Era of the Americas from the post classic period of Mesoamerica and Andes Mountains of Peru in South America who grow sick of the Mayans especially in the city-states of Chichen Itza, Mayapan and Tikal as well as the Aztec Empire and Olmecs, Zapotecs and Chimu, Chavin and Moche and Inca Empire and their own spirit animals (For both groups, macaws, microbats, new world monkeys, llamas, Guinea pigs, lesser rheas, maned wolves, three-toed and two-tied sloths, red foxes, coytoes, giant anteaters, armadillos, anacondas, caimans, ocelots, giant otters and tocuans.) always treating them like dirt and as underrated cultures and civilizations compared to them and typically warring with them in order to crush them and expand their own culture so the Toltecs, Teotithuacan, Toltecs, Nazca and Paracas or Chancay and the Wari culture plan to change all that by changing history with aid from their fellow gods and goddesses from the Mesoamerican and Andean underworlds making it so that the Spanish and Europeans starting with Christopher Columbus in 1492 A.D. never completely colonized the Americas and thus, Sub-Sahara Africa and the Pacific Islands also conquering the Taino peoples, Aztec Empire and Inca Empire and remaining Mayan city-states and forcing them to follow Christianity and their culture and enslaving the Africans and so that the Aztecs, Mayans and Incas would continue flourishing up into the modern day and provide the Mayans with resources to prevent the decline of their city-states also Making the Europeans establish small colonies in the Americas that only involve them sharing their lands with the indigenous peoples living there (Also including the Yanomami of the Amazon rainforest and the Haudenosaunee, Wampanoag, Dakota Native Americans of the Great Plains of North America and ones from the Pacific Northwest.) and not wipe them out with smallpox and measles and force them into Christianity even if it means not letting the future countries and locations for the Americas exist like the U.S.A. and Guatemala and Mexico and Brazil so on and have the Toltecs, Chancay and you get the idea earn the respect of the Aztecs, Mayans and Incas and honor for their culture and society and being one of them. 3) The humans of the Sumerians, Babylonians, and Indus Valley Civilization in the Middle East and India during Ancient History who wish to conquer the Akkadians and Assyrians of Mesopotamia and Ancient Egyptians (In the New Kingdom, in Akhenaten and Nefertiti’s reigns with aid from the Nubians) as well as the Mauryan Empire air aid from their fellow Mesopotamian gods and goddesses and beat the Egyptian and Mauryan gods and goddess and replace the Mauryans and Egyptians as one of the most famous civilizations of ancient history respected by archaeologists and people and pop culture in the present day and even copy most of their cultural methods and stop Alexander the Great from conquering them allowing them to survive longer before the Roman Empire rose to power. 4) Scar’s army like Reirei, Ushari, Scar’s ghost, Giogoi, Kiburi and his crocodiles and the vultures as well as Zira and the Outsiders (Kiara and Kovu in a subplot briefly reunite and Kiara reveals a truth that would later be focused on that only Makini and Tiffu and Zuri know about and not Simba, Nala, Kion or anyone else that she never actually wanted to become the new in line queen of the Pride Lands when she grew up, she just wanted to do it to make her family proud she in reality wants to choose her own path.) and either Red Claw and Screech and Thud (Their villain origins are finally explored and their motive for going after Chomper for scarring Red Claw and them being members of the Unite Herds of evil dinosaurs and pterosaurs including Iron the Styracosaurus further explored in the sequels and how Chomper and his parents got off their island after the fifth Land Before Time movie and Met Ruby and her family and why Ruby and Chomper moved to the Great Valley with their families also making a return.) or Ozzy and Strut, (They worked with Ethan to help him achieve his evil plans in return for sparing their kind ornithominds as well as Pteranodon group pterosaurs, Hadrosaurs as the dinosaurs and pterosaurs they create the genocide of and have revenge on Littlefoot and his friends and have all the eggs they can eat.) or Rinkus and Sierra (Pterano fully reformed in the comic series and alongside Etta and Wild Arms whose real name is revealed to Bob now helps people instead of hurting them and was revealed to be a well-intentioned extermist trying to protect the dinosaurs and pterosaurs of the Mesozoic Era from Ethan and the Unite Herds but unwittingly caused the deaths of the dinosaurs and pterosaurs he tried to lead into the Great Valley Cera’s mother and siblings included.) or Itchy and Dil (Who have a similar revenge motive to Ozzy and Strut but are now actually working together to love and respect each other and die together as friends in the ending.) I will only choose one of these returning TLBT villains, whichever one doesn’t make the cut will be brought back in a sequel. Either way, all these villains at first work together to achieve their evil plans equally and seperately. (For Reirei and Janja and Scar’s army and Zira it’s to get their paws on the Benin Ivory Mask displayed at the Met Museum and defeat the sub-Saharan African mainly Kenyan and Congo human tribal dancers wearing cool fashion and costumes guarding it who came to life from mannequins of them on display on The Hall of African Peoples at the AMNH and solve a riddle for the Benin Ivory Mask/Queen Idia or a different important artifact or mask from Sub-Saharan Africa like in Kenya and mannequins of the indigenous peoples living there if set in a different art museum and natural history museum that would give them a wish to be granted in return which for them was to wish for Simba, Nala and their kids and important leaders of the Pride Lands to disappear and for Scar to be fully resurrected and restored allowing Scar, Zira, Janja, Ushari and Scar’s army and the Outsiders to take over and rule the Pride Lands and the rest of Tanzania in the present day no longer having to follow the circle of life and have revenge on their enemies and unite a army of indigenous humans and tribes of Tanzania to aid them in their conquest as spirit animals with no one to stop them. Scar when he last ruled the Pride Lands, solved a riddle and granted a wish from Queen Idia in Benin Ivory Mask form to wish for the indigenous humans of Tanzania that were living in the Pride Lands at the time of his rule and tourists from the rest of the world would disappear finding them a threat to his rule at first but now he wishes for them back as do Zira and Ushari as it was a mistake for Scar to wish for them to disappear since it easily lead to his defeat and death at Simba’s paws.)

However, a plot twist by the middle of the story or the climax or final battle reveals after Ethan and Riley get their kids (Who are adopted and raised by Spiny’s Spinosaurus parents and an Ouranosaurus family.) Paleozoic and Triassic kind (Pelycosaurs and Gorgnospid, pterosaurs, prosauropods, early theropods, Postosuchus and Placerias, cynodonts, early sharks, armored fishes, orthocones, trilobites and giant amphibians and insects.) turned against them by the protagonists with a “You Are Better Than You Think You Are” speech and Terry and Ronald get eaten by a Megalodon and Liopleurodon commanded by Mo and his family, and Ethan and Riley get their entire sails chopped off mortally wounded and they have villainous breakdowns and use the magical artifacts to transform themselves into one-winged angels, a Spinosaurus and Carchodontosaurus and grow back their sail in Ethan’s case and have them and their remaining army reign terror on the cities the museums are set in and to kill and defeat the heroes and achieve their evil plans nevertheless, Red Claw and Screech and Thud or even the other TLBT villain brought back in the comic arc if Red Claw doesn’t make the cut, and their so-called Unite Herds as well as Scar’s army their Kenyan human tribe army and the Outsiders, humans in the Sumerian and Babylonian army and Toltecs, Chancay, Wari and Teothihuacan culture plus their spirit animals and gods and goddesses especially Tlaoc the rival to the Aztec god Quetzalcoatl and the Hero Twins from the Popul Vuh themselves, (Not to be confused with Quetzalcoatlus) and Marduk, also the rival to Thoth, manage to double cross and kill and defeat Ethan and Riley’s entire army and Ethan and Riley themselves by throwing them into the sea to get eaten alive by the same Megalodon and Liopleurodon, revealing that it was their plans all along to double cross and kill Ethan and Riley stopping them from achieving their evil plans in other to gain attention for them and their underrated kin since they don’t want to live in an alternate reality where birds Don’t exist since some of their friends happen to be friends but rather use the magical artifacts to carry off their own evil plans especially for the Babylonians, Persian Empire and Sumerians conquering and destroying the culture of the Assyrians, Ancient Egyptians during Akhenaten’s reign and replace them as the dominant civilization in the Middle East and stop Alexander the Great and the Ancient Roman’s’ subsequent conquest of them, to persist longer, and Toltecs and Chancay, stop the European and Spanish colonization of the Americas so the Pre-Columbian American cultures could have peace and get the respect, honor and fame their own special cultures deserve in the process from the Incas, Mayans and Aztecs or else the Toltecs and Chancay/Wari will conquer the Aztec and Inca empires and Mayan city states especially Machu Picchu, Tenochilitan, Chichen Itza, Tikal and Mayapan and absorb their cultures into theirs just as the Greeks and Romans did with the Egyptians and earn that respect and honor they deserve the hard way. (And once the Toltecs and Teotithuacan conquered Chichen Itza, Palenque, Tikal, Copan and Tenochilitan, they would perform bloodletting rituals on the Mayans and Aztecs who don’t follow their rule or enslave them or use them as sacrifices for their gods and goddesses on temples and in cenotes.)!

The overall subplot or the first comic issue story arc in this series other than the protagonists trying to stop the evil plans of these villains to make the meat-eating theropods and predators of the Jurassic and Cretaceous Periods anthropomorphic and no longer mindlessly Savage so they and the sauropods, Ornithschians, pterosaurs and other plant-eating theropods can live together in harmony again following the Circle of Life (Littlefoot and his friends learn about it and Hakuana Mutata and Zuka Zama to accept the reality of the harsh world they live in and predators having to hunt and kill in order to survive from The Lion Guard.) so Chomper, Ruby and their families can permantely live with Littlefoot and co. in the Great Valley and to allow heroic humans back into the Pride Lands as either indigenous tribes to Kenya or tourists visiting from the rest of the world, is the redemption arc of both Dogo and Kjiana, (It also gives more depth into their characters revealing that they were more conflicted than evil as Reirei and Giogoi ended up caring more about eating excessively than their own kids and typically emotionally abused them in Order to get what they wanted, especially after a recent incident where Reirei and her pack failing to stop The Lion Guard that was stopped by Dogo and Kijana in a brief moment of sudden humility and not having the heart to kill three predator cubs, Kion, Bunga and Fuli their own kin causes Reirei and Giogoi to lose faith in those kids of theirs and make Issac and Rachel new jackal pups of theirs more loyal to them their new favorite kids.) learning to accept the circle of life like Makuu where a series of mishaps leads to Dogo and Kjiana as well as their aunt and uncle married Ava and Gordon also Reirei and Giogoi’s younger sister and uncle and their own jackal pups getting separated from Scar’s army and winding up in the custody of the Prehistoric Pals and The Lion Guard, who decide to use them to help them stop the main villains, but during their time together, Dogo and Kijana form fire-forged friendships with Hamu and Juhudi (Hamu’s father was revealed to be Thurston and Hamu inherited the absent-mindedness of Thurston and the pride and love of his mother Muhimu.) and the zebra foal and giraffe foal disliked Dogo and Kjiana at first for their past attempts at killing and hunting them in “Babysitter Bunga” but they warm up to them and become best friends with them over time especially after learning of the emotional abuse they received from their parents that made them evil/conflicted and gave Dogo and Kijana emotional support to have their heel realizations and resolve their problems and choose to become heroes accepting the Circle of Life as do Issac and Rachel and their own jackal pups, while Kion and Bunga in return learn to accept and embrace their own emotional insecurities like in Kion’s case fearing disappointing and getting scolded by his father Simba by not doing his job as the Lion Guard well and becoming a disappointment like he did after Scar manipulated him as a cub especially what happened in the Kuptana Celebration which is why he takes the Lion Guard job so seriously but should have realized and took action to Dogo and Kjiana’s emotional Abuse from their parents and Bunga revealing that he suppressed his discomfort with his zuka zama lifestyle to avoid recalling his dark and troubled past over him being rejected and abandoned by his honey Badger parents at a young age (parental abandonment) after he was born before Timon and Pumbaa took him in and raised him, and These lessons help Kion and Bunga forgive Dogo and Kijana and accept their redemptions and them choosing to embrace the Circle of Life and have faith and trust in them. Dogo, Kijana and their aunt, uncle and cousins in the climax bring their redemption arc full circle by aiding the heroes in defeating the main villains, TLBT villain, (Strut, Icthy or Thud will also get their own redemption arc ending in redemption equals death by keeping Red Claw, revealed to be the brother to the Tyrannosaurus from the first TLBT movie, Ozzy or Screech plus Dil outside when sunrise comes causing them all to disintegrate into dust.) Toltec and Teotithuacan human warlord or king villains or Babylonian warlord or king (Named in the actual comic) and their armies during the final battle and their villainous breakdowns by tricking them into continuing their fight with them outdoors when sunrise comes so they would all disintegrate into dust and nearly turn into dust themselves before Fuli, Kiara, Kovu, Tiffu and and Zuri narrowly save them by snatching them up and putting them inside the museum before reverting back to their lifeless taxidermy form. (Scar’s army, Ushari, Janja Reirei and Giogoi included and their evil African human tribe Allies also get banished to Antarctica and Hunnic Empire for the time being before making it back to Africa on their own as punishment for their own crimes.) This then earns Dogo, Kijana and Gordon, Ava and their kids (who disown Reirei, Giogoi and their other kids as their family members) positions as new residents of the Pride Lands and Dogo, Kijana, Hamu, Juhudi and Mtoto become new honorary members of The Lion Guard and stay behind in the Pride Lands to watch it over in their teen years while Kion, Bunga, and Fuli, Ono, Besthe and Makini leave for the Tree of Life in the third season of The Lion Guard.

It also focuses on Ruby and Urusla’s romance with each other and Chomper’s with Tirana’s and Littlefoot and Cera falling in love with Susie the young Diplodocus/Seismosaurus and Sparky the Ticeratops scarred by Iron two of a few heroic dinosaur kids from the heroic dinosaurs and pterosaurs of the Unite Herds https://www.deviantart.com/mcsaurus/art/Cera-meet-her-new-friends-155172371 (Littlefoot also gets a love triangle between him, Ali and Susie and Susie helps Littlefoot with his character arc while Cera sheds her stubborn egosticial behavior forever thanks to Sparky softening her up, Sparky was adopted and raised by Calar the Styracosaurus and has one of her biological kids Tootie as his younger brother.) that are good alongside Tootie, Kristy the young Edmontosaurus/Kristosaurus, Trip the Tapejara and Ed the Edmontonia, while David forms a romance with the Troodon hatchling Rebecca, while the Prehistoric Pals also met the mammal kids from the Reunite Herds of Ice Age mammals (Like Noel and Neal the woolly mammoth calf and American mastodon calf, Sasha the young giant ground sloth and Otis the glyptodon, Benson the Smilodon cub, Wendy the dire wolf pup from a woolly mammoth, mastodon, giant ground sloth, glyptodon and Smilodon and dire wolf herd, pride and pack and Alvin and Frankie the nine year old Neanderthal boy and eleven year Cro-Magnon/Homo Sapien from a United tribe of Cro-Magnons and Neanderthals.) as well as Simba’s long-lost son Kopa who alongside some families of familiar African mammals and birds red foxes, Alaska brown bears, gray wolves, American bison, pronghorn, bald eagles coytoes, rabbits, white-tailed deer, striped skunks and Amazon rainforest animals who act as the spirit animals to a a tribe of Pacific Northwest or Dakota Native Americans as humans, African pygmies and Yanomami tribes.

So which of these six settings in terms of museums should the first installment or six-part comic issue story arc be set in and whichever ones don’t make the cut can be saved for the sequels about the characters traveling to those museums and bringing their exhibits to life with the magical artifacts as well. Or it could just start at the Yale PeaBody Museum of Natural History and Yale University Art Museum (Or Carnegie Museum of Natural History in Pittsburg, Pennsylvania and Philadelphia Museum of Fine Arts if you think they are much better.) if you think and and work its way up until it gets to the British Museum, Natural History Museum, London or Lourve Museum and National Museum of Natural History in Paris, France in the last installment. (It also is a coming of age story focusing on the Prehistoric Pals and The Lion Guard reaching their adulthoods and Littlefoot is renamed Thunderfoot.)

They will also have prequels explaining how the modern-day human characters we see in the stories first were employed to become night security guards and paleontologists, archaeology and naturalists at the museums that have their exhibits come to life at night and become the time-traveling paleontologists, archaeologists and naturalists that they are and how the exhibits in terms of fossils, taxidermies, Egyptian, Mayan and Peruvian mummies and skeletons, wet-preserved sea creature specimens and artifacts and mummies that become real living animals prehistoric and modern plus humans and come to life were after fossilizing and being lost to the sands and soils of Earth were found in the present day by being uncovered by paleontologists, archaeologists and naturalists and animals turned into taxidermies during expeditions to where they were found and displayed at the museums and their stories before hand when they were alive before dying and so on including for Littlefoot, Cera and Spike’s long-lost dead mothers and family members now on display as fossils in those movies but become real living animals at night.

Number One: The American Museum of Natural History, Metropolitan Museum of Art and Museum of Modern Art.

Number Two: The Field Museum, Alder Planetarium, Art Institute of Chicago and Shedd Aquarium.

Number Three: The Smithsonian Institution (The National Museum of Natural History, National Gallery of Art, National Museum of the American Indian and National Air and Space Museum.)

Number Four: American Museum of Natural History, Met Museum, MoMA or even Field Museum, Art Institute of Chicago and Smithsonian in the 1980s and the series works it’s way up over the years to the 2010s or 2020s exploring the exhibits that came and go to those museums temporary and traveling included. (Including in eight examples, T. rex: The Ulimate Predator, Unseen Oceans, Pterosaurs: Flight in the Age of Dinosaurs, Life at the Limits, Impact: The End of the Age of Dinosaurs, Sharks, Making the Met 1870-2020 and Sahel: Art and Empires on the Shores of the Sahara plus Dark Universe or Worlds Beyond Earth.)

Number Five: The Carnegie Museum of Natural History and Philadelphia Museum of Art. (Or Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County, Getty Museum, Getty Villa, California Science Center, The La Brea Tar Pits and Museum and Los Angeles County Museum of Art.)

Number Six: Yale Peabody Museum of Natural History and Yale University Art Museum.

I did have plans to write a Night at the Museum of Natural History and Zootopia and Moana related crossover in September 2022 (Chronologically set after both Zootopia 2 and Moana 2.) but I abandoned the idea. Why? I will leave your questions for it in the comments below.

View Poll

u/Over_Pudding3896 — 8 days ago

Didn’t Think This Through! moments in The Tigger Movie:

When Tigger pulls off his bounce to get Rabbit’s rock remover to get the boulder off Eeyore’s house to work, it does work but it also causes everyone but him and Roo to land in a muddy lake.

Tigger tried to write a letter to his tigger family to get back in touch with them, but since he delivers it by wind and not by an actual postman, it goes lost and he never gets a response back for his letter even after months of waiting from autumn into winter to his sadness.

Pooh, Piglet and Eeyore encounter several setbacks while trying to find Tigger’s real family like being unable to communicate with striped frogs they think are them and get swarmed by some bees Pooh tried to steal honey from and all in all forget about their winter preparation duties.

In Order to cheer Tigger up, after he fails to contact his Tigger family and falls into depression for it, Roo rallies his friends minus Rabbit and Tigger himself as well as his mother Kanga to write Tigger a friendly letter pretending it was from his real tigger family to cheer him up and while it works, they didn’t expect the fact that Tigger who reads English words in between the lines to misinterpret the last few words, “We will always be with you, signed your family” as “We are all coming to see you, first thing tomorrow, signed your family” thus believing his real Tigger family was coming to visit him the following day and prepares for their visit as a result.

Roo’s plan to have him, Kanga and their friends minus Rabbit pose as Tigger’s real Tigger family at the family reunion party he planned for them, with Tigger costumes they made from scratch and wore ends up falling apart literally when Piglet almost gets exposed by Tigger after slipping out of his costume since he forgot to make it pants and tail unlike for everyone else’s tigger costumes and Eeyore’s donkey tail unbidden in his disguise almost exposed him as well until Tigger when seeing the tail thought he was already playing Put the Tail on the Donkey, but more so after Roo when doing his woopedy loopy looper bounce crashes into Tigger’s closet that rips his mask (Kanga put a lot of effort into making the zip-up suit part of the costume but not the mask.) and exposes him and everyone else.

Rabbit also ends saying a lot of words that cause more harm than good due to his realist and control freak attitudes as opposed to everyone else’ optimism in terms of how he by insulting Tigger starts off his motive in wanting to find his true Tigger family, shames and guilts everyone but Roo and Kanga and scolds them for neglecting their winter preparation duties to help Tigger to the point where they nearly do just that before Roo convinces them otherwise.

Also in the climax, as he and the others minus Christopher Robin, Kanga and Owl finally find Tigger, Rabbit tries to convince Tigger to come back by telling him to forget about the nonsense regarding his tigger family and come to terms with the fact that they are not real, but instead it upsets and angers Tigger to the point where he argues with Rabbit which kickstarts the avalanche that threatens the sentient stuffed toys.

Note: On the back of the VHS for The Tigger Movie, Roo was naked and shirtless under his zip-up Tigger costume, but he in reality was still wearing his shirt.

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 17 days ago

If GOAT ever gets a sequel will it beat Zootopia 3 into having fun and creative things that relate to the anthro animal setting the Zootopia movies until the third movie didn’t include yet?

While the Sing movies and GOAT did beat the Zootopia movies into including different creative and action-packed anthro animal setting related concepts in their movies like for example in the Sing movies, it making Buster Moon the main protagonist and owner of the Moon Theater all but revising the scrapped concept for the first Zootopia Movie with Nick Wilde as the main protagonist and owner of the Wild Times Amusement Park but in a lighter and softer way, and including reptile and bird plus primate characters and GOAT itself being set in several different cities inhabited by anthropomorphic animals instead of just one but in different biomes, and including a dynamic between Will Harris and Jett Filmore plus Team Thorns that was like an unexplored dynamic between Nick and Judy and Chief Bogo and Captain HogBottom and the rest of the ZPD and done in a non-mean spirited manner from the Zootopia movies (Or make Jett and Will a duo much like hero versions of PawBert and Kitty Kat from Zootopia 2 and The Bad Guys 2 whichever comes last.) I really hope GOAT 2 (Possibly set three years after GOAT in-universe.) will beat Zootopia 3 into including not one but three new scenarios in that movie that relate to the Anthropomorphic animal setting in terms of:

Number One: It Including a subplot from its likely main plot of exploring the animal equivalent of soccer or baseball, PawBall (Roarball was to basketball), over Will who gets more character development and Team Thorns Jett and Modo included aiding a group of new animal characters who work as secret agents, cops or detectives in stopping a team of criminals whose terriost actions who relate to both a conspiracy and animal discrimination connect to the pawball games Team Thorns is taking part in, putting their sports skills into way better use as crime-fighting skills in the process. (While the animal cops if they work as cops learn to put their skills into proper use as detectives or secret agents.)

Number Two: But in this scenario it includes a scene far better than the Little Rodentia chase scene in the first Zootopia movie in terms of showing Will, Hannah (She and Daryl play larger and more prominent roles in GOAT 2 in that they become new teammates in Team Thorns first playing roarball/basketball and now pawball/soccer or baseball.) and the new animal characters chasing a squirrel, Indian cobra or banded mongoose, macaw or blue-eyed black lemur terriost who connects to this criminal group through a animal shopping mall in Sunken City or the new animal city metropolis the sequel is set in that has two floors in terms of the first floor being designed for rodents and small animals like mice, shrews, insects, lemmings, prairie dogs, voles, salamanders, frogs, geckos and lizards as well as songbirds and the second floor is for larger and medium sized mammals, birds and reptiles related to the Miniso designed for both large and small mammals that cameoed at the end of Zootopia 2, and the getaway terrorist or criminal slips into the small animal first floor of The mall, and Will, Hannah and the new animal characters enter it too, and the chase leads through the shopping mall where Will, Hannah and the new animal characters medium sized mammals or birds appear like giants from the POV of the small rodents and other tiny animals visiting the mall and Will and Hannah plus the new animal characters try to arrest and apprehend the criminals without making a huge mess or damaging anything or hurting citizens, but it still came off as a pretty climatic and action-packed scene, with Hannah, Will and the new animal characters appearing like giants from the POV of the mice and rodents and other tiny animals inside the shopping mall, with Will rescuing a field mouse or meadow vole named Kevin who had a mouse or vole spouse and kids from getting crushed by a giant piano thrown by the criminal, and Hannah shielding a family of mouse lemurs from getting crushed by a collapsing balcony and so on. Will and Hannah also use the moves they learned during their roarball playing also helping improve on their pawball playing skills during the chase.

The chase soon leads on into the giant animal section of the shopping mall and Will and Hannah and the new animal characters soon manage to catch and arrest the criminals without making a huge mess, by trapping them inside a elephant sized pretzel in a elephant and rhino plus hippo sized pretzel shop at the mall, but also all wind up getting trapped inside ones themselves (Also mimicking the old concept with Judy getting stuck inside the Big Donut at Little Rodentia while chasing Nick in a older draft for Zootopia and concept Art of Nick and Judy and possibly Nibbles chasing a squirrel through Marsh Market for Zootopia 2.) and set off a chain reaction that caves in and destroys the first floor rodent and small animal sized shopping mall, but all its customers and employees are safely excavated in the Nick of time that causes future consequences for Will, Hannah and their new friends plus Team Thorns in their PawBall undercover for the secret agency or police later on but get their next clue in solving the big conspiracy.

Number Three: I also want Will Harris, Olivia, Jett Filmore and Hannah and Daryl unless Hannah and Daryl are already romantically involved with each other and only see Will as a brother, to get romantic leads in the sequel in terms of Will forming a unlikely romance with a bighorn sheep, (Who appears as a heroic parallel to Officer Chevre from Zootopia 2.), llama, moose or Arabian oryx, Frankie who appears as either a PawBall player or a secret agent/cop and Olivia forming a ambiguous romantic bond with a emu or lesser Rhea named Kevin, also a player in PawBall, and Hannah getting one with a black backed jackal named Gordon, a red kangaroo named Terry or a caracal named Max who serves as a pawball player or a cop, and Jett forming a gay or different sex bond with the snow leopard PawBall player Gerald or Olivia Spots, learning that it is never too late for romance in the process, and Daryl getting one with a howler monkey or Coquerel’s sifaka lemur named Chloe and you get the idea.

I also want all these characters listed above to have this dream or sequence when they get to relax and sleep on the beach wearing swim suits and swim wear or enter a sugar crush or a acid-induced dream while there after eating too many ice creams, cupcakes or cake sold at a nearby cafe where they imagine themselves as nude animals running running across this field being themselves and playing PawBall on it but then the dream becomes a nightmare for a reason that will be properly explained in more detail in the film similar to the deleted scene for Zootopia in the tame collars draft over Nick having a daydream over him and Finnick, Clawhauser and Honey Honey Badger being nude animals running across this field when his tame collar is removed.

Just as we got Sing 2 released before Zootopia 2, since Illumination are more of sequel people than Pixar and Disney, we might also get GOAT 2 released before Zootopia 3 since Sony Pictures Animation are also sequel people.

The main villain for GOAT 2 behind that crime conspiracy relating to discrimination and prejudices towards a certain animal species or group he or she is part of will also be a sequel contrasting antagonist to Mane Attraction the plot-irrelevant villain of the first movie and Florence herself in terms of being more relevant to the plot and like an anti-villain and well-intentioned extremist like most of the villains for Pixar.

I also hope both GOAT 2 and K-Pop Demon Hunters 2 will be even better sequels to the first GOAT and K-Pop Demon Hunters movies. Just as Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse and Beyond the Spider-Verse were to Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse.

View Poll

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 17 days ago

Were Roshan, Runar, Nadia and the humans in the first movie Neanderthals or early modern humans?

I can’t tell because both human species lived in villages, wore clothes, made cave art and hunted woolly mammoths and saber-toothed cats.

View Poll

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 22 days ago

Don’t you agree that the punishment that the circus animals gave the Zoosters for tricking them and lying to them was a tad too harsh?

For one thing, while it would make sense for Gia, Vialty and Stefano and the other circus animals to become hurt and betrayed and shun the Zoosters (Alex, Marty, Gloria and Melman) for not lying to them, (They had to do so to get on their train.) but for tricking them and using them to get back home to the Central Park Zoo forcing them to do a bunch of dangerous acts to do so especially bad in Vialty’s case due to his post-traumatic stress disorder, and planning to double cross them once they got there by disbanding the circus and having all the animals there become zoo animals at the Central Park Zoo despite how much they love their lives as circus animals, they took it too far not just because they treat the Zoosters like traitors for what they did without letting them speak up and explain that they grew attached to their lives as circus animals to the point where they don’t want to return to the zoo anymore, but on the ship ride to New York, they also leave the Zoosters on a lifeboat being tugged by the ship across the sea, that would have put them at a high risk of getting cast away across the ocean and die of starvation unless they wash upon a shore or get rescued, if a storm were to strike the boat during its voyage across the ocean (The fact that they are good swimmers and did swim across the Mediterranean Sea from the Sahara Desert to get to Monte Carlo doesn’t change this.) as if they actually wanted the Zoosters to die for tricking them and manipulating them, not to mention, the lemurs, penguins and chimps who went along with the Zoosters’ scheme and lying as well are forgiven and allowed to stay with the circus although King Julien, Maurice and Mort decide to return home to Madagascar at first not before saying goodbye to the Zoosters but then decide to stay with the circus too, but more so since the penguins and chimps entered the circus animals’ side of the agreement in regards to the Zoosters’ trick and obsession with wanting to get back to the zoo ungrateful over the freedom they were getting.

Luckily, the circus animals especially Gia and Stefano first and then Vialty quickly manage to realize the error of their ways, (After the Zoosters intially return to the zoo having nowhere else left to go after being disowned by the circus but then decide to go back and make amends with the circus animals and convince them to give them staying at their circus a second chance before Dubois and her men ambush and capture them.) and disowning the Zoosters for lying and tricking them was never worth it after all, and King Julien returning to inform them of Dubois’ capture of them gave them the push needed to go back and rescue the Zoosters from Dubois defeating her in the process and reconciling with them and allowing them to stay with their circus permantely afterwards and all is forgiven.

In The Penguins of Madagascar: The Movie Classified and the North Wind give the Penguins (Minus Private who was captured by Dave) the same type of punishment for stealing their jet and trying to use it to chase Dave to defeat him and save Private and the penguins although it was less harsh than what the circus animals gave the Zoosters, Classified does pin all the blame on the penguins for destroying the jet without ever once sharing the blame with himself since he was the one who stopped the jet mid flight with a grappling hook causing it to self destruct, and he and the North Wind despite saying they were the good guys were not really acting like ones by treating the penguins with respect, but they get better at the end.

View Poll

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 23 days ago

No Endor Holocaust moments in Zootopia movies:

Note: These are theories for the movies and taken from TV Tropes. (The term came from how the second death star’s debris never rained down on Endor after the battle station’s destruction in Star Wars: Return of the Jedi.)

Zootopia (2016): Although Nick and Judy did commit a bunch of not-so-legal mistakes while trying to solve the missing mammal cases and Dawn Bellwether’s conspiracy but more so in Judy’s case (Nick did also commit tax evasion though a crime of his that becomes forgotten in the sequel.) in terms of getting off on the wrong foot as friends making it hard for them to solve the case, trespassing on closed property, communicating with the mafia, Judy unwittingly causing predator discrimination in the city with her press conference by misinterpreting the preds savageness secretly caused by the night howlers as them reverting back to their primitive savage ways and abandoning her role as a hero out of guilt letting the city suffer more unintentionally ensuring a villain victory for Bellwether until making the discovery regarding the night howlers and Nick himself never being revealed or confirmed in-universe to have done anything valuable to protect those predators in the meantime, like a dirty hypocrite would, and Nick and Judy crashing a subway train and damaging a museum exhibit to expose Bellwether and get her arrested, the fox and bunny face no shunnings from the ZPD or the city or legal consequences for these mistakes or get arrested for them to the point where they are allowed to join the ZPD as cops and received respect from the police force and city for their actions.

The sequel however does finally deconstruct this by not only having Chief Bogo get mad at Nick and Judy again for disobeying his police code of conduct to arrest Antony Snootley causing a bunch of property damage in the process but also finally standing up to them about these dysfunctions of theirs described above that Captain HogBottom and the other ZPD cops also mistreat Nick and Judy for and were one of the reasons why they fell for the lies of the Lynxleys and did at first try to kill them on their orders (Up until HogBottom has her heel realization after being ordered to use lethal force on Judy by Milton that she and her colleagues were committing police brutality and never trying to interrogate their suspects for the crimes they thought they committed which isn’t Chief Bogo would have wanted.) and Bogo therefore tries to take action for it by sentencing Nick and Judy to two-year mandatory therapy with Dr. Fuzzby to fix their problems with the threat of splitting them up if they don’t pass or or firing them both from the ZPD if they do police work during their two-year therapy session, which he almost goes along with after catching Nick undercover to investigate Gary at the Zootennial Gala but changes his mind after Gary drops in and proves his existence.

Also the Zootopia+ episode, “The Real Rodents of Little Rodentia” reveal that Fru Fru and Mr. Big witnessed the effects of the night howlers on Fru Fru’s friends and cousin Tru Tru so they would have compared it to Emmitt Otterton’s savageness and ratted it out to the police for an investigation starting with Duke Weaselton making a villain defeat for Bellwether invetiable even if Nick and Judy didn’t intervene.

In Zootopia 2 (2025), a lot of trouble happened for the police and Nick, Gary and Judy themselves since Chief Bogo got accidentally fanged by Gary and our protagonists got framed by Milton and Cattrick Lynxley, in terms of Mayor Winddancer acting as the puppet mayor being manipulated by Milton to send the police after Nick, Judy and Gary when they are framed to kill them as police brutality and not only do Captain HogBottom and some of the cops like Officers Chevre and Bucheron and Higgins and Bloats agree to do just that at first up until Milton orders her to use lethal force on Judy at the Desert Dunes committing a lot of reckless and ruthless actions in the process that nearly got Nick and Judy killed and endangered innocent Citizens at Marsh Market and damaged property in the hippos’ cases and after Nick and Judy plus Gary get their names cleared and Winddancer stands up to the Lynxleys who all get arrested for their crimes, HogBottom, Winddancer, Higgins, Bloats, Chevre and Bucheron never face any sort of punishment or consequences for their mistakes in terms of being fired from their jobs as mayor and cops, arrested or downright demoted, they only get two-year mandatory therapy with Dr. Fuzzby alongside the Zebros but that’s it while Nick and Judy plus Gary and Nibbles gloss over and disregard the police brutality, murder attempts and mistakes of these characters plus their alliance with Milton nearly ensuring his villain victory mentioned above and quickly forgive them for them without so much as an apology or having these characters ranted, punished, tiraded and called out for their mistakes. (But considering the fact that a timespan of several days passed since the arrests of the Lynxleys, a lot of tension must have happened between Nick, Judy and those cops and the mayor for that reason, but it was skipped for the sake of the narrative.)

On top of that, Gary himself also caused reckless endangerment at the Zootennial Gala to get the weather wall journal to solve the Conspiracy and Fanged and almost killed Bogo, a police chief accidental or not, and Gazelle assaulted two cops, the Zebros to aid PawBert, Gary and Judy in their fugitive escape and Nick also accidentally freed all the criminals from prison in order to escape, with Nibbles and Nick, Gary and Gazelle never get arrested for this at the end and are just pardoned for helping solve the Lynxley Conspiracy, without getting the consequences of their actions although Gazelle more do had the right to beat up Gene Zebraxton for hitting one of her tigers at the gala which no cop should ever do, hurt an innocent citizen and Nick and Judy work hard to help re-capture those 200 criminals that escaped starting with Bellwether after Reptile Ravine is reopened, but still.

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 23 days ago

How was Marty able to escape from the zoo and later from his crate?

One thing that confused me about the first movie are two things:

  1. How was Marty able to escape from the zoo despite is locked gates and tall walls, we saw how the penguins got out by digging a tunnel, same for Alex, Melman and Gloria by climbing over the wall and smashing a hole through it, that Mason and Phil later got out of themselves but what about that zebra?

I theorize that Marty was aware unlike Alex, Melman and Gloria that the gates to the zoo are locked from the outside, not from inside, so he was easily able to open them from the inside to slip away without being seen by anyone.
Or maybe Marty stole the keys from the zookeeper office to open the gates with and then escape from there shutting the gates behind him, but Alex and Melman plus Gloria strangely never find them when they escape from the zoo.

  1. Second off, how was Marty able to escape from his crate while drifting across the ocean because when he arrives on Madagascar he is riding on some dolphins and not on his crate and how was he able to know where his friends washed up on the beaches of?

I theorize that Marty popped the lid off his crate while it was floating across the ocean and he then jumped out of it and tried to swim to shore but he found out that he was a really bad swimmer (His swimming skills wouldn’t improve until the third movie.) and nearly sank and drowned until a pod of dolphins rescued him and they were able to tell where Alex, Melman and Gloria washed up on the island of Madagascar and they would bring the zebra there with him riding on them.

But another thing that is confusing is why Marty never asked the dolphins to give him and his friends a lift to mainland Africa or better yet ask them to get a whale to give them that lift instead since they can’t carry Melman though Gloria can swim herself. It would have been a simpler solution in getting off the island.

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 23 days ago

I wish that this Land Before Time and The Lion King comic series from Boom! Studios and Dynamite Entertainment became a reality:

After the success of the “Grumpy Cat Garfield” in 2017 a collaboration between Boom Studios! and Dynamite Entertainment to make that comic series between the franchises starring those titular felines, I think Boom Studios and Dynamite Should replicate its success by making a comic crossover between Universal’s The Land Before Time and Disney’s The Lion King franchises, chronologically set during the second season of “The Lion Guard” and after “Journey of the Brave” (Pterano’s five year exile into the Mysterious Beyond finally expired at that pount in time.) but is more of a character-driven story than the plot-driven “Grumpy Cat Garfield”. Dynamite had already made a comic series in The Lion King franchise chronologically set during Simba and Nala’s childhood and Boom Studios! should make a comic series in The Land Before Time franchise and tie up its loose ends (Like how Chomper and Ruby met, how Chomper and his parents got off the island they lived in until the fifth movie and got back to the mainland and how Chomper and Ruby got to the Great Valley and what started Red Claw’s motive for going after Chomper.) We also haven’t got anything new in that franchise since 2016!

The series would focus on the Rainbow Faces (Gallimimus) from “The Land Before Time: The Stone of Cold Fire” who finally return to the Great Valley and reveal their true forms as shapeshifting aliens, of the Kakonian race from the planet Kakon in the Alpha Centauri system in the Milky Way Galaxy and their names Zoe and Joe, and are scientists, historians and time-travelers from the present day (The 1990s and 2000s, A.D. around when The Lion King movies take place.) who had been pretending to be Gallimimus and disguising their time-traveling spaceship as an asteroid, and they made Pterano their guest taking them as their guest and intern back to their home planet in their time period and helping him become a hero to make up for his past evil deeds and jump him forward in time three more years to end his exile sooner than expected. Pterano also has his reunion with Petire and his mother and siblings, Mets Chomper, Ruby and Littlefoot’s father Bron and adoptive brother Shorty and is given a harsh unwelcome by Mamma Swimmer still holding a grudge for kidnapping her daughter Ducky and Mr. ThreeHorn who boasts about how he moved on from his past mistakes and found love with Tria to Pterano’s annoyance.

Zoe and Joe then take Littlefoot, Cera, Ducky, Petire, Spike and Chomper, Ruby and their families and friends on a trip through history to show them the future and life has so much more to offer than what they have in the Great Valley but this ends up getting them stranded in the Pride Lands in the present day.

To be continued….

I also think that Balto and An American Tail should cross over with The Fox and the Hound, Bambi and The Rescuers or The Great Mouse Detective in comics as well as should My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic in its newest Boom Studios! comic series and either Zootopia, Robin Hood, Aladdin or Lilo and Stitch in the comic series resolving around those franchises from Dynamite but done by entirely new artists than the past few issues.

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 25 days ago
▲ 1 r/DisneyMovies+1 crossposts

Forgot About Their Powers moments in Disney Modern Movies:

Winnie the Pooh (2011): After the main characters Tigger and Owl included get stuck in the pit dug to trap the Backson in, all of them especially Rabbit himself seem to disregard the simpler solutions to take to get out of the pit like having Tigger bounce everyone out of the pit, one at a time, have Rabbit dig a smaller tunnel out of the pit and up to the surface wide enough for everyone to fit in and climb through and having Owl air lift everyone out of the pit with his ability to fly. (Owl does fly out of the pit at one point to lecture Piglet but Pooh and Rabbit praise Owl for his speech without bringing up his ability to fly.)

Wreck-It-Ralph (2012): In the climax as Ralph and Turbo in Cy-Bug form are fighting each other, the moment that Ralph slips free to erupt Diet Coke Mountain in a self sacrifice before Vanellope saves him, Turbo never once tried to stop and kill Ralph as he falls, because if he did he would have won and sucessfully took over a new racing game and had the other Cy-Bugs eat up all the arcade games and the characters in them Felix, Calhoun and Vanellope included so LitWak would replace them making the new racing game Turbo takes over the only original one left in the arcade. (I mean, unless Calhoun was unable to unplug Sugar Rush but have Vanellope go down with it to kill Turbo and the other Cy-Bugs, and activate the beacon in Hero’s Duty to destroy Turbo and the other Cy-Bugs.)

This does become avoided in the scene where Turbo accidentally reminds Vanellope of her glitching ability which she uses to teleport herself away to safety before Turbo could kill her.

Frozen (2013): As Elsa was being ambushed at her ice castle by Prince Hans and his and the Duke of Weaselton’s royal guards, after they defeat Marshmallow, she never once tries to use her ice magic to create a new MarshMallow or defend herself using a kind of magic that would not kill the guards.

Ralph Breaks the Internet (2018); Ralph and Vanellope’s scheme to steal Shank’s car to get to J.B. Spamley was pretty ridiculous, because never once does Vanellope consider using her glitch superpower to teleport herself inside Shank’s warehouse to steal her car, nor does Ralph try to knock out Shank’s gang to ensure their getaway, somewhat justified over Vanellope’s glitch teleportation superpower not working outside Sugar Rush and Ralph not having the heart to hurt Shank and her crew seeing what a nice Guy he is.

Zootopia 2 (2025): This happens three times mainly for plot connivence:

After Nick and Nibbles get arrested and locked up in prison, they both seem to disregard the fact that the prison cells they were both locked in have prison bars wide enough for them to slip through, but they never use this method to escape their cells and get out of prison, instead Nibbles unlocks the cell doors with a wooden key she made out of a broom stick.

As Officers Higgins, Bloats and Chèvre and Bucheron are brawling with Gary to arrest him and save Judy from dying from the snake venom they brought with them (If they had any anti-venom that is.) never once do they tru to use the methods they previously tried to use to arrest Nick and Judy at Marsh Market and HoneyMoon Lodge like biting down on Gary to apprehend him in a non-lethal way in the hippos’ case and punching him out cold or injuring him with their horns or tranquilizing him like in the goats’ cases, somewhat justified over their earlier heel realizations over Nick and Judy being innocent all along and set up by Milton or Gary after what happened with Captain HogBottom with the poison dart and them actually trying to kill them on Milton’s orders which isn’t what Chief Bogo would have wanted since it counts as police brutality scared them into choosing never to use those methods again, and arrest their criminals like a normal cop would, while Gary himself never tried to apprehend those cops so he could save Nick and get the anti-venom pen using the methods he previously tried to use on Milton and PawBert to so to them like strangling the cops and knocking them unconscious while doing so or fanging them all in non-lethal snake bites that would immobilize them for a few minutes so he could save Nick, defeat PawBert and get the anti-venom pen and then cure those cops with the anti-venom as well as PawBert himself when he gives him the same immobilization to stop him, not before tying him up, with the rope he presumably brought in his Fanny pack.

It is somewhat justified also in Gary’s case over him fearing losing his right fang if he did just that and not wanting to risk the lives of any more of the ZPD cops after he accidentally Fanged Chief Bogo and injected enough Snake venom into him to the point where he nearly kills him. (Despite giving him karma for mistreating Nick and Judy and not believing in Gary’s existence.)

Also, after Nick throws the Anti-venom pen to Gary for him to use to revive Judy with, Nick never once tries to run up the ice ledge as it starts to break off the weather wall and jump off it and onto solid ground, using the athletics he learned at the police academy, instead Nick stays on the ice ledge allowing himself to fall alongside PawBert before Gary and Judy arrive to narrowly save Nick on their own.

Nick’s athletics as demonstrated at Marsh Market all in all still seem to be inferior to Judy’s despite months of training at the police academy.

This does become avoided in the scenes where Nick and Nibbles escape from prison but the criminals that also escape get away with all the police cars parked outside leaving them with no way to track or get to Judy and Gary in time to help them, until Nibbles reminds Nick that A) He still has his cell phone which HogBottom never bothered to confiscate showing how incompetent as a cop she truly is. B) He is friends with Flash the fastest driver in the city. So Nick is able to call Flash and commission the sloth to give him and Nibbles a drive through Sahara Square ignoring the laws and he obliged, and in the process Nick calls Clawhauser and commissions him to track down Judy using Paul’s computer to track HogBottom’s phone since he smashed Judy’s phone after they got framed.

Also, not long after Judy gets cured by Gary with the anti-venom and she sees Nick’s peril, she remembers her ability to knock down giant mammals in a single kick she learned at the police academy which she uses to knock both Higgind and Bloats unconscious so they would stop fighting Gary (Also giving them karma for their police brutality) and Officer Rhinowitz and rushes to help Nick as Gary stays behind to lock the unconscious Higgins, Bloats and Rhinowitz and still conscious Chèvre and Bucheron inside the weather wall control room until the Lynxley Conspiracy is solved (The hippos, goats, HogBottom and Truffler are sentenced to mandatory therapy with Dr. Fuzzby for their police brurality.) and goes after Judy and helps her catch Nick narrowly in the literal Nick of time as he begins to fall.

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 28 days ago
▲ 4 r/wallE+1 crossposts

Wall-E and EVE have brothers and sisters but they tend to ignore them

Technically, there are other Wall-E robots that existed (There used to be hundreds of them) and EVE probes, (There were four or three more of them revealed to exist.) that are Wall-E and EVE’s brothers and sisters since all the Wall-E robots are male while the EVE probes are female, but the movie has them play relatively small roles and Wall-E and EVE tend to care not that much about them.

But I think the main reason in Wall-E’s case is because all his brothers are “dead” and broken beyond repair as they were either deactivated by the humans after Operation Cleanup failed or destroyed by the toxicity that made life die or go into hiding on Earth with that Wall-E being the sole survivor and while he did grieve them at first for the 700 years he was on Earth he did get over them after befriending Hal and likely the other cockroaches or unseen surviving animals still on Earth adapting to live among the garbage and surviving off the hidden remaining plants, and Wall-E despite all the spare parts for his robot unit he owned, was unable to repair and, reactivate and rebuild those robots for unknown reasons.

In EVE’s case, she and her sisters tended to work alone when they constantly visited Earth in its different regions to search for signs of plant life, and EVE rarely if ever talks with her sisters when they are doing work together and are either deactivated or functioning but doing other work while on the Axiom.

While the status of EVE’s sisters was them being left deactivated in the hanger for the Axiom while EVE herself remained active in Order to get the plant Wall-E found into the Holo-detector to get the Axiom to make a jump across the Galaxy to Earth in less than seconds.

However, I am pretty sure that the other EVE probes were reactivated after the ending for the movie when the humans returned to Earth, starting with the crew on the Axiom to help find other types of plants needed for farming and the hidden populations of animals that the humans could use for farming to rebuild civilization after the garbage was cleared the eco-friendly way (The Wall-As put them into giant blocks that were carried away from Earth and disposed into space.) and Wall-E got to know EVE’s sisters but could still never bring back his dead brothers.

What if Wall-E and EVE were not the only members of their kind to get together? Maybe there was another surviving Wall-E and a EVE probe from a different BNL strainer hidden somewhere else on Earth. So far we only explored South Carolina where Wall-E and Hal lived in their truck until EVE first arrived.

EVE also seems to reflect the fact that in the Toy Story movies also made by Pixar, that there are many Buzz Lightyear action figures being sold in toy stores by the events of the movies same for Evil Emperor Zurg action figures (The Pizza Planet aliens are sold exclusively at Pizza Planet in its claw machine.) since they are space toys and newer toys like how EVE is a new, fresh and clean robot still being made and produced while the Woody, Jessie, Stinky Pete and Bullseye dolls we know made after the characters with the same names from “Woody’s Roundup” are possibly the last of their kind, since they are Wild West toys not as common as they used to be and since the dolls, toys and merchandise from the “Woody’s Roundup” series from the 1950s discontinued at that point in time, no wonder AL wants to put them in a Toy Museum. Similar to how the old Wall-E robots were discontinued and the Wall-E we know is the last of his kind. (And it would have gone extinct if EVE didn’t fix and rebuild him.)

For the status of these toys and why they are still around in an era where they and the show the characters they were based off of were discontinued and cancelled are because:

Woody is probably a heirloom in the Davis family, he was bought and played with by Andy’s father or grandfather in the 1950s when Woody’s Roundup was popular and was soon passed down to Andy himself before his dad died. The reason why Woody doesn’t remember anything that happened before Andy’s time in First Grade and Woody’s Roundup itself is because toys lose their memories of their past owners if they exist for so long. (Like how the memories fade away when they outlive their usefulness in the Inside Out movies.)

Jessie was bought and owned by Emily in the 1950s when Woody’s Roundup was popular along some other merchandise, but Emily soon outgrew Jessie mainly after their interests shifted from Woody’s Roundup to girly fashion and Music that existed in the 1960s and 1970s and Emily donated Jessie and she found her way into the hands of AL before soon becoming the toy to Andy alongside Bullseye when encouraged by Woody and they were donated to Bonnie after Andy outgrew them and his other toys.

Bullseye’s origins are unknown, and he never talks about them, (But mainly due to his fear of being donated) but I think that he used to be owned alongside a Woody doll, Jessie doll and Stinky Pete doll by an unknown family in the 1950s but he accidentally got left behind at a play date or road trip and was found and put in a yard sale, being passed down to several owners before eventually being bought by AL. Bullseye never has Jessie or Lotso’s trauma and anguish over being donated or lost/forgotten since he is more of an optimist than a realist like them. (But while Jessie learns to get better, Lotso never does.)

Stinky Pete, he of course, was sold at a dime-store/general store in the 1950s when Woody’s Roundup was popular but after the show was cancelled and everyone’s interests switched to space themed shows and toys, Stinky Pete was never bought or owned by a human kid and left to rot on the shelf in the store for many decades, leaving him embittered and disillusioned towards human kids. This contributed until AL came along and bought him deciding to sell Stinky Pete to the Tokyo Toy Museum but needed the whole Woody’s Roundup collection and started his search for it.

But Stinky Pete did all but get what he wanted after all when Woody and Buzz after defeating him give him to a girl named Amy who will alongside her Barbie doll give him several fashion makeovers and playtime to allow him to live the happiness of having a human kid and likely regret the antagonism he committed towards Woody and Jessie,

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 29 days ago
▲ 13 r/LandBeforeTime+1 crossposts

The Gallimimus duo in the seventh movie were aliens

It’s pretty obvious that the Rainbow Face or Gallimimus duo in “The Land Before Time: The Stone of Cold Fire” were shapeshifting extraterrestrials and time-travelers (Maybe Skrulls or Chitauri from the Marvel Superhero Comic Universe that work as scientists.) from the distant future who visited Earth in the Mesozoic Era disguised as Gallimimus and speaking the language of the dinosaurs and pterosaurs they visit for an unknown purpose, likely to investigate the comet that had landed at ThreeHorn Peak nor far from the Great Valley. But they did also aid Littlefoot and his friends while trying to beat Pterano, Rinkus and Sierra to the comet, after following them from afar to ThreeHorn Peak on their time-traveling spaceship which can camouflage to their surroundings and offering them food and giving them a boost to ThreeHorn Peak. (I think this is all because they were aware of the comet’s true purpose and it was never a space rock containing magical properties but an ordinary comet from the Kupier Belt made of ice properties and stardust, and they wanted to get them to break the discovery to Pterano to avoid sending him on a wild goose chase that caused more harm than good to gain something he thinks will grant him god-like powers but will not in reality.)

Also in the movie’s ending, the Gallimimus after bidding Littlefoot farewell and singing a reprise of “Beyond the Mysterious Beyond” have themselves beamed up into their spaceship disguised as an Asteriod at the moment piloted by other aliens and they fly away from Earth

I also theorize that the Gallimimus (Actually the aliens) had allowed Pterano to come with them back to the future and visit their home planet and Earth in the future in the rest of history until his five-year exile into the Mysterious Beyond for his past evil actions expires since he has nothing better to do since he can’t visit his sister and nieces and nephews in the Great Valley until his exile is done and hopefully time jump him five years into the future to get his exile done sooner than expected once he is done exploring the future with his new alien friends.

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 1 month ago

Thirteen Hopes I have for the new Boom! Studios My Little Pony comic series:

  1. Have it overall be set between Generations Four and Five of My Little Pony explaining how the events of “A New Generation” would come to be and have it focus somewhat on Luster Dawn and reveal whether she is the daughter of Starlight and SunBurst or not.

  2. Have the series break old trends from the past comic issues in terms of aiming it towards an older and more mature audience in terms of talking about more darker and mature themes and topics like death, divorce, grief and so on but while still keeping the humor and light-heartedness and charm of the past Friendship is Magic series and comics, and give it Disney or Pixar level family friendliness. Also have it finally explain how the parents of Applejack, Big Mac and Apple Bloom, Pear Butter and Bright Mac died.

  3. Make Chancellor Neighsay’s character a lot more likable in terms of giving him a Freudian excuse over why he is so racist towards non-pony creatures and wants everyone to follow his rules while running the EEA and acts like a jerk towards them for not doing so; (He also manages to open up to the protagonists about it after “School Raze”) He once had a loving unicorn wife Rebecca and four unicorn kids like his unicorn foal son Alexander but they all ended up getting murdered by a group of non-pony creatures also children as spies from an unknown villain organization he allowed as students into an EEA school that he trusted and nearly caused chaos and destruction, and while Neighsay manages to stop it all, it left him embittered and illogically blind thanks to his grief and anger to the point of becoming the anti-hero he is in Season 8 before being set right by the Young Six in the Season 8 finale. It also gives Neighsay a proper redemption arc in terms of having him lose his job as Chsncellor at the EEA and given a brief dungeon sentence for his past mistakes in Season 8 that nearly brought the kingdoms to war with each other, and later befriending and forming an unlikely romance with Tempset Shadow, learning to move on from his old deceased wife in the process and the characters work together to try to stop a new villain likely Grogar and later they both pull off a heroic sacrifice and get themselves killed in order to kill and defeat that new villain. Maybe also give Diamond Tiara and Sliver Spoon more focus and prominence.

  4. Bring back Queen Chyrsalis, Lord Tirek and Cozy Glow having them all escape their stone prisons as depicted in the ending of the Season 10 comics and try to have revenge on the heroes or worse yet get captured and held captive by the real Grogar for trying to use his magic for themselves and have Cozy undergo a redemption arc with more overall depth over why she became the villain she is while having Chyrsalis and Tirek remain evil before being killed off at the end. Maybe also inteoduce Scorpan, Tierk’s brother.

  5. Have it introduce new types of villains whose goals don’t involve power-hungry or unfriendly motived unlike all the past MLP villains but instead include more realistic villains who are well-intentioned extremists, tragic villains or so on and actually have friends and families they actually love and care about. Maybe do the same with new types of heroes. And maybe ones that are also more laughably evil and eccentric.

  6. Have of finally explore Spike’s origins (For real unlike in “Father Knows Beast”) and his parents and maybe do the same for Gallus and Smolder as well. Maybe also have it focus on Scotaloo finally being able to learn to fly with her tiny wings just like Bulk Biceps and have it focus more on her overall relationship with her parents Snap Shutter and Mane Allgood and have them reveal a good reason why they had actually been neglecting her for their jobs, (Daddy had a good reason in abandoning you) and have them learn to become better parents to Scotaloo in general. Scotaloo, Rumble and Sliverstream also all become WonderBolts in general.

  7. Have it also focus on Princess Celestia learning and coming to terms with what a unintentional poor mentor and teacher she had been to Twilight to the point where she willingly tries to allow her to step down from the position as ruler of Equestria she was pressured into and give it to Princess Luna instead although Twilight was forced to continue accepting her new role after Celestia and Luna both die in heroic sacrifices.

  8. Have it focus more on Cheese Sandwich and Pinkie Pie’s romantic relationship with each other and how they married and had their child to raise, Lil Cheese, same for Maud Pie and Mudbriar’s, and Starlight and SunBurst and maybe Yona and Sandbar’s. Maybe also have Twilight and the Flash Sentry from her world revealed to be a descendant of Flash Magnus form a real romance with each other to the point where they later marry and have an Alicorn child to raise. As a plot line where MoonDancer helps Twilight hook up with Flash Sentry after he becomes a royal guard at the Canterlot castle so he wouldn’t be lonely whim serving as Equestria’s new ruler since she won’t live next door to her friends anymore.

  9. Give the TreeHouse of Harmony an actual purpose in terms of revealing that it was not just created as a clubhouse for the Young Six but also a mirror that is a portal to other dimensions and places across Equestria and beyond as a replacement for the Cutie Map which permantely shut down after the Tree of Harmony was destroyed to send the Young Six and other main characters on friendship missions across the multiverse.

  10. Give Capper and the Abyssinians plus the Diamond Dogs a larger and more prominent role in the series and bring back Swift Foot and the Thacian Ponies from the Feats of Friendship comic series as a continuation of it and Lightning Dust’s whereabouts after “The Washouts”

  11. Have Flash Sentry and Soarin who both become the potential boyfriends to Twilight and Rainbow Dash, as well as Cheese Sandwich form the male six which includes the male counterparts for the Mane Six. Maybe also finally bring Flurry Heart and Pound Cake and Pumpkin Cake back as foals/fillies.

  12. Have the main protagonists visit a parallel universe populated by anthropomorphic animals inspired by Zootopia, the Sing movies and GOAT (2026) that is more like real Earth and the human world either in the modern world or the 1990s and have the characters learn about growing up, embracing maturity and they are not always gonna live in a fantasy. Maybe have it be the world that The Great Wolf Pack series is set in.

  13. Similar to Grumpy Cat Garfield maybe make a crossover between this MLP comic series from Boom and the Zootopia Dynamite Comic series.

Do you agree with me?

View Poll

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 1 month ago
▲ 4 r/mylittleponytakes+1 crossposts

Thirteen Hopes I have for the new Boom! Studios My Little Pony comic series:

  1. Have it overall be set between Generations Four and Five of My Little Pony explaining how the events of “A New Generation” would come to be and have it focus somewhat on Luster Dawn and reveal whether she is the daughter of Starlight and SunBurst or not.

  2. Have the series break old trends from the past comic issues in terms of aiming it towards an older and more mature audience in terms of talking about more darker and mature themes and topics like death, divorce, grief and so on but while still keeping the humor and light-heartedness and charm of the past Friendship is Magic series and comics, and give it Disney or Pixar level family friendliness. Also have it finally explain how the parents of Applejack, Big Mac and Apple Bloom, Pear Butter and Bright Mac died.

  3. Make Chancellor Neighsay’s character a lot more likable in terms of giving him a Freudian excuse over why he is so racist towards non-pony creatures and wants everyone to follow his rules while running the EEA and acts like a jerk towards them for not doing so; (He also manages to open up to the protagonists about it after “School Raze”) He once had a loving unicorn wife Rebecca and four unicorn kids like his unicorn foal son Alexander but they all ended up getting murdered by a group of non-pony creatures also children as spies from an unknown villain organization he allowed as students into an EEA school that he trusted and nearly caused chaos and destruction, and while Neighsay manages to stop it all, it left him embittered and illogically blind thanks to his grief and anger to the point of becoming the anti-hero he is in Season 8 before being set right by the Young Six in the Season 8 finale. It also gives Neighsay a proper redemption arc in terms of having him lose his job as Chsncellor at the EEA and given a brief dungeon sentence for his past mistakes in Season 8 that nearly brought the kingdoms to war with each other, and later befriending and forming an unlikely romance with Tempset Shadow, learning to move on from his old deceased wife in the process and the characters work together to try to stop a new villain likely Grogar and later they both pull off a heroic sacrifice and get themselves killed in order to kill and defeat that new villain. Maybe also give Diamond Tiara and Sliver Spoon more focus and prominence.

  4. Bring back Queen Chyrsalis, Lord Tirek and Cozy Glow having them all escape their stone prisons as depicted in the ending of the Season 10 comics and try to have revenge on the heroes or worse yet get captured and held captive by the real Grogar for trying to use his magic for themselves and have Cozy undergo a redemption arc with more overall depth over why she became the villain she is while having Chyrsalis and Tirek remain evil before being killed off at the end. Maybe also inteoduce Scorpan, Tierk’s brother.

  5. Have it introduce new types of villains whose goals don’t involve power-hungry or unfriendly motived unlike all the past MLP villains but instead include more realistic villains who are well-intentioned extremists, tragic villains or so on and actually have friends and families they actually love and care about. Maybe do the same with new types of heroes. And maybe ones that are also more laughably evil and eccentric.

  6. Have of finally explore Spike’s origins (For real unlike in “Father Knows Beast”) and his parents and maybe do the same for Gallus and Smolder as well. Maybe also have it focus on Scotaloo finally being able to learn to fly with her tiny wings just like Bulk Biceps and have it focus more on her overall relationship with her parents Snap Shutter and Mane Allgood and have them reveal a good reason why they had actually been neglecting her for their jobs, (Daddy had a good reason in abandoning you) and have them learn to become better parents to Scotaloo in general. Scotaloo, Rumble and Sliverstream also all become WonderBolts in general.

  7. Have it also focus on Princess Celestia learning and coming to terms with what a unintentional poor mentor and teacher she had been to Twilight to the point where she willingly tries to allow her to step down from the position as ruler of Equestria she was pressured into and give it to Princess Luna instead although Twilight was forced to continue accepting her new role after Celestia and Luna both die in heroic sacrifices.

  8. Have it focus more on Cheese Sandwich and Pinkie Pie’s romantic relationship with each other and how they married and had their child to raise, Lil Cheese, same for Maud Pie and Mudbriar’s, and Starlight and SunBurst and maybe Yona and Sandbar’s. Maybe also have Twilight and the Flash Sentry from her world revealed to be a descendant of Flash Magnus form a real romance with each other to the point where they later marry and have an Alicorn child to raise. As a plot line where MoonDancer helps Twilight hook up with Flash Sentry after he becomes a royal guard at the Canterlot castle so he wouldn’t be lonely whim serving as Equestria’s new ruler since she won’t live next door to her friends anymore.

  9. Give the TreeHouse of Harmony an actual purpose in terms of revealing that it was not just created as a clubhouse for the Young Six but also a mirror that is a portal to other dimensions and places across Equestria and beyond as a replacement for the Cutie Map which permantely shut down after the Tree of Harmony was destroyed to send the Young Six and other main characters on friendship missions across the multiverse.

  10. Give Capper and the Abyssinians plus the Diamond Dogs a larger and more prominent role in the series and bring back Swift Foot and the Thacian Ponies from the Feats of Friendship comic series as a continuation of it and Lightning Dust’s whereabouts after “The Washouts”

  11. Have Flash Sentry and Soarin who both become the potential boyfriends to Twilight and Rainbow Dash, as well as Cheese Sandwich form the male six which includes the male counterparts for the Mane Six. Maybe also finally bring Flurry Heart and Pound Cake and Pumpkin Cake back as foals/fillies.

  12. Have the main protagonists visit a parallel universe populated by anthropomorphic animals inspired by Zootopia, the Sing movies and GOAT (2026) that is more like real Earth and the human world either in the modern world or the 1990s and have the characters learn about growing up, embracing maturity and they are not always gonna live in a fantasy. Maybe have it be the world that The Great Wolf Pack series is set in.

  13. Similar to Grumpy Cat Garfield maybe make a crossover between this MLP comic series from Boom and the Zootopia Dynamite Comic series.

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 1 month ago

Do you think Olivia will let Will keep one of her spare phones?

Since Olivia owns spare cell phones, will she let Will have one of them to make up for the phone Jett Filmore broke? All he had to do was long into it and upload the data onto it.

Yes or no

View Poll

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 1 month ago

Which one of these fanfics should I write giving PawBert a redemption arc and Gary a reconciliation with him?

https://www.reddit.com/r/disneyparks/comments/1w3sxfb/which\_of\_these\_fanfics\_based\_on\_a\_disney\_parks/

I need your opinion, which one of these fanfics should I write all regarding a redemption arc for PawBert Lynxley and him reconciling with Gary in terms of it either being based on Zootopia: Hot Pursuit or Zootopia: Better Zoogether! From DisneyWorld and DisneyLand, Shanghai And which setting should I use for them?

View Poll

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 1 month ago

Final opinion: Should I write a fanfiction based on Zootopia: Hot Pursuit? Or Zootopia: Better Zoogether?

Here are the two different fanfics that I wanted to write based on those two Zootopia rides (Set three years after Zootopia 3 with an orangutan named Claire and proboscis monkey Ava being elected to become the titular city’s new Mayor and vice mayor after Brian Winddancer was removed from office for You know what.) or attractions and which of the five settings I should use for them:

In the one based on Zootopia: Better Zoogether!, Dawn Bellwether and her fellow sheep, Duke Weaselton and the Lynxleys are liberated from prison with aid from Bellwether’s adoptive mother, Mayor Swinton the pig and tragic villain from Extropolis populated by pigs and sheep only, Lord Iconix and Sasha the striped hyena and secretary bird and their family plus syndicate of Asian mammals and birds (Their ancestors connect to why birds don’t live in Zootopia expect for hidden populations.) from the Kingdom of Tovjo in India, with India culture, religion and architecture Mauryan Empire and Gupta Empire inspirwd inspired by Wakanda where Gary and his family resided until Zootopia 2, and Tripp Zebrando the zebra and the Junior Ranger Scouts who bullied Nick in his childhood including Tony Chuck as well as the ClayZones lead by Brumby, a group of laughably evil/Bill Cipher vibed or choatically evil play-dough humanoid and creatures imaginary friends turned imaginary enemies inspired by the characters from Gumby like the titular character himself banished to the world of Zootopia from the world of IF (2024) by its imaginary friends for their evil deeds, and maybe also a family of evil jackals and the villains devise a scheme to achieve their evil plans (Explained in more detail in the stories themselves.) and have revenge on Nick, Gary, Nibbles and Judy and their friends for ruining them in the past, in terms of robbing the cosmic cube from a group of lemur and African wild dog heroes and then with Bellwether and PawBert pretending to be the hosts, Heidi Howler and Steven the wolves by delaying the arrivals of the real ones, the sheep of Swinton sabotage the events of Zoogether Day to lure Nick, Judy, Gary (His right fang grew back.) and Nibbles away from the Tree of Life to investigate them in a (Bat-Deer Gambit) Batman Gambit (Tricking Nick and Judy into thinking the sabotage of Zoogether Day was a scheme by Bellwether and the Lynxleys to frame Heidi, Steven and wolves in general on it and make them look evil in the public’s eyes and then in different disguises and identities as new animals make themselves look like heroes by stopping those wolves and outcasting them from the city to get their power, fame and fortune back that our fox and bunny and their friends must figure out and stop.) become allowing the villains to construct a device powered by the cosmic cube within the Tree of Life that causes right after the “We are Zoonited” finale, Nick, Gary, Nibbles, Judy and the other protagonists old and fanfic exclusive from the Zootopia franchise also their friends and the villains themselves to body swap with their animal superhero and animal supervillain (Random villains for the ClayShades Flash and Priscilla also gain the ability to move and talk normally and quickly and Clawhauser loses his obesity and becomes a Regular bodied athletic cheetah.) counterparts in a parallel universe also populated by anthropomorphic animals and animal-like aliens with similar cities and architecture and Weather walls to Zootopia as well as Sony’s GOAT (2026) but with the animals as both superheroes and supervillains and secret agents and so on (The villains as animal supervillains plan to achieve their evil plans in that new universe and eventually spread them across the multiverse with their new superpowers.) and Nick, Gary, Nibbles and Judy and their friends new and old especially the lemurs and African wild dogs now as animal superheroes need to complete the storyline in the new Universe they are in (Similar to that of Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle and The Next Level each character gets three lives, lose all three and they will die forever.) involving them having to save the world from all those villains ending with them earlier killing or arresting them in order to body swap back into their original powerless bodies in Zootopia in the Regular Animal World and it focuses mainly on that plot line but also on three subplots, one focusing on two reveals being made one regarding PawBert and Bellwether never acting being villains but they were both rather possessed by the ghost of Ebenezer Lynxkey determinded to protect the legacy and status of him and his descendants who escaped from the spirit realm in the wake of PawBert’s mother Lyra’s death since he was four years old and a lynx kitten while Bellwether was being brainwashed by Swinton since she was a sheep lamb and also four after Swinton first adopted and raised her alongside Doug Ramses and Swinton’s other sheep, (And the sheep were used as the pig mayor’s protégés.) and when Bellwether and PawBert break free from the possession and mind control temporarily, they work hard to try to free themselves from it for good and kill and defeat Ebenezer’s ghost who possessed Milton next and Swinton plus Cattrick Lynxley and reconcile with Nick, Nibbles, Judy and Gary before it’s too late forming a friendship and romance with each other in the process. (Kitty Lynxley and Doug Ramses also go on redemption arcs though the latter was brainwashed by Swinton like Bellwether.) Chief Bogo, his family like wife Major Fredkin, Captain HogBottom, Truffler, Captain Rhinowitz, Officers Chevre and Bucheron (They were all fired from the ZPD for their past police brutality and mistakes. Higgins and Bloats were fired too but the Zebros got to keep their jobs.) are also revealed to have been Brumby and the ClayShades all along having secretly killed and impostered the real Bogo, HogBottom, etc. using their shapeshifting and voice mimicking skills since they first entered Zootopia in the 1970s, and Nick reunites with his long-lost fox family and confronts more of his past connected to those lemurs and wild dogs like running the Wild Times Amusement Park in Gnu York, Zootopia alongside Finnick and Honey Honey Badger before he joined the ZPD while Nick officially opens up a romance with Judy and learns to overcome his past greatest failure while helping his bunny overcome her own post-traumatic stress disorder from her near-death experience in the second movie that took a toll on her hero complex and understand that heroism isn’t restricted to police work and the roles sometimes have to be broken for the greater good of things. Gary and his snake family especially Agnes being revealed to be former members of Tovjo with advanced technology since the Middle Ages or Ancient History and guides to Lord Iconix, Sasha and their ancestors before they eventually quit and moved into the town that would later become Zootopia in New Jersey, Zoonited States, 200 miles south from Zoo York City using their Tovjo technology to invent their own Weather walls to found the city of Zootopia but after Ebenezer pulled off his scheme that gave him credit as the city’s true founder, Agnes and her family returned to Tovjo but they got outcast from it as well as Iconix and Sasha’s ancestors who started gaining evil ambitions through their commitment to their rule to the culture and bigots from outsiders and the kingdom itself attempted to wage war in a assembled Asian and African bird army on Zootopia to kill Ebenezer and allow the Tovjo and their religion to take over causing the genocide of whoever doesn’t submit to their rule, but that failed and it caused Agnes and her family to leave the kingdom forever and causing Zootopia to distrust birds to the point of outcasting them expect for the penguin, puffin, etc. tundra variant and a few hidden populations from the city for good, and Nick, Nibbles Gary and Judy help a red tailed hawk and bald eagle duo Chloe and Nelson descendants of a bald eagle and red tailed hawk military lieutenant and general from the past in Agnes and Ebenezer’s day plus their bat and bird friends convince Zootopia to trust birds again through heroic actions to the point of allowing them into the city again. It uses the obvious villain, secret villain case for Lord Iconix, the adult Junior Ranger Scouts and jackals, Mayor Swinton, Sasha and Brumby and the ClayShades.

In the one based on “Zootopia: Hot Pursuit”, it used the exact same story but this time it is divided into many different chapters about the main character protagonists and antagonists body swapping with their animal superhero and animal supervillain counterparts and having a good vs evil battle in that Universe and returning to Zootopia in their universe (Unless the antagonist is killed off.) and the second Chapter is based on “Hot Pursuit” where the villains including the still brainwashed by Swinton Bellwether and possessed by Ebenezer’s ghost PawBert kidnap both Gazelle and Clawhauser before Gazelle and her tigers’ concert at the Zootennial Stadium on Zootopia Day, (An annual Zootopian holiday celebrating the anniversaries of Nick and Judy saving the city from Bellwether and later solving the Lynxley Conspiracy) and they lead Nick, Judy, Gary, Nibbles. their friends and colleagues on a chase through Zootopia and its various districts like TundraTown, Sahara Square, the Rainforest District and Gnu York, Savannah Central (Despite causing two of Swinton’s sheep to get arrested.) and into a portal generated by the cosmic cube that lay there and it caused the main characters to all wind up in that parallel universe that is centered in the stories body swapping with their animal superhero and animal supervillain counterparts that are there for a newest conflict to resolve or good vs. evil battle that ends with PawBert, Bellwether, Kitty (Real name Katherine Lynxley) and Doug’s redemptions/heel-face turns (But more so caused by being freed from the possession of Ebenezer’s ghost who possesses Cattrick or Milton instead and Swinton’s mind control/brainwashing in Bellwether, Doug and PawBert’s cases.) and Swinton and Milton both getting killed and defeated (Cattrick and Ebenezer’s disembodied spirit all live to fight another day until their own deaths and defeats in the final battle.) or live to fight another day while the heroes get their first fight with Brumby and ClayShades (Before the reveal over them being Chief Bogo, Captain HogBottom, etc. is made.) and Sasha, Lord Iconix and the Tovjo who all won’t be defeated or killed until the finale in a one-winged Angel/Super Mode battle and Mr. Big and Koslov both die in heroic sacrifices to stop Cattrick and Swinton to Fru Fru and Morris their adult daughter and son’ grief.

In this second version, Bogo, Rhinowitz, Higgins, Bloats, HogBottom, Chevre, Bucheron, Major Fredkin and Truffler still keep their jobs as cops even before the reveal over them expect for the hippos being Brumby and the ClayShades but they all had to wear shock collars (Tame Collars) whenever they did police work that would go off whevever they repeated their past mistakes or used their negative personality traits again to tame them into “good behavior” not before getting two years of parking duty demotion probation and mandatory therapy with Dr. Fuzzby alongside the Zebros. Higgins and Bloats both learn to change their ways take a level in kindness and reconcile with Nick, Judy, Gary and Nibbles like the Zebros did to them to the point where Nick and Judy trust them in not having their shock collars while doing heroics anymore, even after the hippos and zebras admit that Chief Bogo/Brumby’s bad mentorship of them caused their flaws, same for PawBert and Kitty Lynxley over Milton raising them wrong and the former being possessed by Ebenezer’s ghost. Those of them who are duos also lose their partners and made solo cops especially HogBottom, Truffler, Chevre, Bucheron and Higgins and Bloats themselves.

The parallel Universe could be:

  1. The Marvel Animal Superhero Universe, a parallel Universe version of the Marvel Universe where anthropomorphic animals and animal-like Extraterrestrials exist instead of humans and hominids and there are anthropomorphic animal versions of all the familiar Marvel superheroes, supervillains and vilignates but also new original anthropomorphic animal superheroes and supervillains and characters with similar or the same superpowers, suits, costumes and abilities to the familiar Marvel superheroes and supervillains but also with new original superpowers, costumes, suits and abilities with the characters all in all having their own original personalities.

In the version based on “Zootopia: Better Zoogether!” It will be set entirely in the Marvel Animal Superhero Universe until the finale after that fateful Zoogether Day happens, while the version based on “Zootopia: Hot Pursuit” will have each chapter start off with a first act/prologue set in Zootopia with the buddy cop/mystery or crime solving genre until the middle where a situation caused by the antagonist/villain of that chapter caused him or her and Nick, Judy and their friends (Hero/protagonists) to body swap with their animal superhero and animal supervillain counterparts in the Marvel Animal Superhero Universe and they spend the rest of the Chapter in that universe until the ending where Nick, Judy, and their friends (Heroes/protagonists) body swap back to Zootopia and the Regular Animal World while the villain/antagonist gets killed or arrested no matter what Universe they are in. The second chapter based on “Zootopia: Hot Pursuit” is a exception where the characters instead wind up in the Animal Star Wars Galaxy body swapping with their animal Jedi, Sith, smuggler, Mandalorian etc, counterparts and stay there until the ending in a space opera genre. They will also adapt all the Marvel superhero related rides in the Disney Parks like Avengers Campus.

If the DC Animal Superhero Universe instead chosen, the second chapter will be set in the Marvel Animal Superhero Universe instead of the Animal Star Wars Galaxy.

  1. DC Animal Superhero Universe, a parallel universe version of the DC Universe where anthropomorphic animals and animal-like extraterrestrials exist instead of humans and hominids and there are anthropomorphic animal versions of all the familiar DC superheroes, vilignates and supervillains and new original anthropomorphic animal superheroes, vigilantes and supervillains with similar superpowers, costumes and abilities to the familiar DC superheroes and supervillains but also have new original costumes, suits, superpowers and abilities. The characters all in all have their own original personalities.

For either versions using this universe as the setting based on “Zootopia: Hot Pursuit” or “Zootopia: Better Zoogether” it uses the same plot lines and scenarios for both the versions using the Marvel Animal Superhero Universe. But the second Chapter is set in the Marvel Animal Superhero Universe and not the Animal Star Wars Galaxy.

  1. Star Wars: Batuu Bandits: A parallel universe version of the Star Wars Galaxy where anthropomorphic animals and animal-like aliens live instead of humans and hominids and there are anthropomorphic animal Jedi, Sith, (The Sith Rule of Two doesn’t exist in this universe.), Mandalorians, stormtroopers, smugglers, bounty hunters, rebels and imperials exist. (The cell phones for the Zootopia main characters become lightsabers and blasters when they enter this universe and their vehicles like cars or helicopters become shuttles or starfighters.) It is set during the Magic Civil War between the Alicorn Empire and Sith with their capitals on Alicornii, a mid rim fantasy planet, Axas 13, orbiting the gas giant Axis and Coruscant and the Tovo Rebellion and Jedi Order with their secret bases and Jedi Temple like for the Rebel cell, “Batuu Bandits” being on Scarif, Batuu in the Black Spire Ruins and Hosnian Prime the last of whom is protected by powerful planetary shields. Two feuding winged unicorn Sith Lords named Darth Piberus/Rachel and Darth Magnus/Mason and their animal, non-human mythical creature imperial and Sith Knight comrades also join the villain mix by traveling to the world of Zootopia to help liberate Bellwether and the Lynxleys from prison and lure the heroes into the Animal Star Wars Galaxy and so on. It also adapts both Star Wars: “Rise of the Resistance” and “Millennium Falcon: Smuggler’s Run” from Star Wars Galaxy’s Edge, but renamed them both “Rise of the Tovo Rebellion” and “Aluminum Hawk: Smuggler’s Run”

For the version based on “Zootopia: Hot Pursuit” with the Marvel Animal Superhero Setting, the second chapter uses both the “Hot Pursuit” and “Star Wars: Batuu Bandits” storyline/setting while in the version based on “Hot Pursuit” with the Data Animal Superhero setting, not only the second Chapter uses the Star Wars: Batuu Bandits storyline/setting but two more chapters use it too.

  1. Night at the Museum of Natural History: It completely sheds the other concepts I suggested and had it set entirely in Zootopia and the Regular Animal World with the first four chapters being done in the usual buddy cop/mystery genre that the past Zootopia films were in but also the spy genre but the next four are in the fantasy genre in a reboot of the Night at the Museum franchise at the Zootopia Natural History Museum and Art Museum (Agnes’ Weather wall book, original pendant and artifacts are on display there in the Zootopian history exhibit.) and other familiar museums like the Field Museum and Art Institute of Chicago, (The protagonists can travel between the museums similar to the sanctums in the Doctor Strange movies.) where their exhibits come to life every night due to magic from the sacred time traveling watering hole in a diorama of the African Savanna with non-anthropomorphic mammals and birds as taxidermies native there guarded by tree frogs existing since the Jurassic Period, as well as magical Mayan, Aztec, Incan, Ancient Egyptian and Ancient Greek artifacts made by the gods and goddesses associated with those cultures (The gods and goddesses as animals in this universe too are extraterrestrials that visited Earth from their magical realms mistaken by people or animals as celestial beings.) and the exhibits that come to life not just include paintings, dioramas and murals that come to life and become portals to the worlds and time periods in history and prehistory they represent, but the artifacts, sculptures and statues in any form marble included and taxidermies, specimens and wax sculptures of non-anthropomorphic and Anthropomorphic animals sea creature included come to life, the Egyptian and Peruvian mummies become real living animals and the fossils, skeletons and life sized models of prehistoric animals like non-avian dinosaurs, pterosaurs, marine reptiles, Ice Age mammals, etc. become real living animals with their flesh, eyes, skin, scales, feathers, fur and everything. The story also combines concepts from both the Jurassic Park and Indiana Jones movies. Indiana Jones also guest stars as a wolf, Indiana Bones and Gary’s old mentor. Any exhibits that are outside the museums before sunrise also Turn to dust. The protagonists become security guards and night guards at those museums and the first non-nocturnal animal ones and time-traveling paleontologists, archaeologists and naturalists to resolve the center conflict used by Brumby and the ClayShades rallying an army of modern and Contempary Art painting and sculpture creatures and Iconix, Sasha and some Guptan, Mauryan and Chinese animals and Mongolian dinosaurs and pterosaurs plus Ice Age mammals. The story overall remains the same like in the other story concepts.

  2. Data Animal Superheroes: This parallel Universe is set in an entirely original superhero shared universe much like The Incredibles franchise but where anthropomorphic animals and animal-like extraterrestrials exist instead of humans and hominids and there are animal superheroes and supervillains all with their own new original superpowers, abilities, suits, costumes and so on. It also uses Mayan and Aztec or Inca gods and goddesses as superheroes and supervillains just as DC and Marvel do so with Asgardian gods and goddesses plus Greek Amazons.

The superhero and supervillain costumes and suits for the animal characters all in all will be designed to fit them and their different animal species whether it’s mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians and so on, same for stormtrooper and Mandalorian armor plus Jedi robes and smuggler clothes. They will also all be spin-off franchises.

Nick Wilde now appears as the main protagonist and gets more interactions with Gazelle, Gary De’ Snake and PawBert while Judy Hopps is demoted to a dueteragonist and gets more interactions with Clawhauser, Nibbles the Beaver and Bellwether. So what universe will it be and what ride Should it be based off of? Hot Pursuit or Better Zoogether?

View Poll

reddit.com
u/Over_Pudding3896 — 1 month ago